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10-13-11, 09:10 AM #1
helping a friend, need good advice on how to join
ok, well.
my best friend of almost 10 years has always talked about joining the marine corps, he talked about it so much that i am enisting soon because he talked about it all the time. but heres his issue, 1st when he was 14/15 he got assualt with a deadly weapon for not giving the real person responsibles name, 2nd has a couple decent sized tattoos on his arms, 3rd has a ged.
its not fair that he cant join please the best advice to get him to join is needed. i know telling you he is a great guy and say he would make a great marine wont matter but its true and this guy needs to be a marine
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10-13-11, 09:22 AM #2
The Marines initially told home back in 2009 that they won't take him and they actually escorted him to the armys recruiting office next door. He is actually trying to join the army cause he feels the Marines won't take him. I am trying to stop him from joining the army if there is a chance he can still join the marines
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10-13-11, 10:17 AM #3One must qualify and meet certain requirements to be a Marine.
Originally Posted by Shipley
If one meets those criteria then maybe one would be accepted as a recruit candidate.
"Fair" has nothing to do with it here....life is not 'fair'.
Becoming a Marine is not an entitlement...it's an honor and a privilege....so not everyone can be Marine.
He should be glad the Army will take him as that may be his only option.
Probably not what you want to hear hence the very old cliche 'the truth hurts'.
That's my take on it.....carry on.
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10-13-11, 11:00 AM #4
i understand life isnt fair, thats not how i ment to type it so that might have sounded like desperation. but i am just trying to get a professionals take on this with the information provided. people have gotten in with worse and i am trying to figure out how to go about doing that if it can be done.
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10-13-11, 11:46 AM #5You can also do a search on the site as these topics have been covered many times before.
Don't take this the wrong way, and I do realize that you want to help your friend, but your friend should be the one asking the questions, not you. He's the one who got himself into trouble, has the tattoos, and with the GED. He's the one who needs to show a Marine Corps recruiter that he's worth the time and effort to see if they can get him the required waivers needed. And even if the recruiters do take the time and effort to do this for him, there's no guarantee that those waivers will be approved or not.
--1st when he was 14/15 he got assault with a deadly weapon for not giving the real person responsible name,
United States Navy and Marine Corps
Criminal History Disqualifications
Serious Offenses
Medical/Mental/Criminal/Tattoo Waivers/Lying to MEPS...READ THIS FIRST
--2nd has a couple decent sized tattoos on his arms,
Medical/Mental/Criminal/Tattoo Waivers/Lying to MEPS...READ THIS FIRST
--3rd has a ged.
US Military Enlistment Standards
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10-13-11, 11:57 AM #6Really... Originally Posted by Shipley
One last comment.....many here may wonder why this 'friend' of yours isn't here himself posing these questions.
Could it be he already knows he does not meet USMC standards based on past behavior.
To me....sounds like you want him to be a Marine more than he does.
Don't mean to sound smug but that's my take.
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10-13-11, 12:05 PM #7
yes, he should be asking them, and he has before. this is me taking this into my hands seeing if there is anything that can be done, there is nothing wrong with that. just saying, but just because he isnt here typing doesnt mean he hasnt tried.
but like i said i am just trying to find information on how to take the best route to help him increaseing his chances of being allowed to join, i know all the information you presented. which also tells me his chances are almost 0, but i also know people have gotten in with alot worse. and im trying to figure out how.
or maybe hear from people that have gotten in with ged and no college credits, that really the biggest hurdle in his situation
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10-13-11, 12:10 PM #8 Originally Posted by chulaivet1966
lol why must people post their rants.
no, i dont want him to be one more then he does, you arent in my situation seeing what i see everyday. there is nothing wrong with me looking for the information for him. he doesnt know im doing this. he tells me how bad he wants to be a Marine all the time when i mention i am joining.
i am asking for your advice, not your rants please, dont take the wrong way just dont want drama on this thread
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10-13-11, 12:19 PM #9
Did you read the links posted by Softballcatch?
You want advice of a professional? HE needs to see a recruiter.
If HE doesn't like the advice of one of those professionals...so sorry. Joining the Marine Corps is entering into a contract. There are initial conditions that have to be met before that contract can be entered into. If HE does not meet these, some can be waivered, some cannot.
No, there is nothing wrong with you inquiring, but it is kind of like this. Say YOUR FRIEND wants a job at Burger King. He really wants to flip those burgers badly, in fact, he wants to work there sooooo badly that he sends YOU to apply for HIM. Make sense?
If HE has ran into dead ends and roadblocks and is willing to leave it there, sobeit. I have seen this scenario far too often where a "friend," a parent, a girl friend or boy friend takes the bull by the horns instead of the person himself.
So if HE really, really, wants to join the Marine Corps like you say, then he needs to be pursuing it, not you. If a person wants something bad enough, THEY will not take the first no, or the second. THEY will pursue it.
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10-13-11, 01:08 PM #10
Why is it when someone comes here on Leatherneck looking for "professional advice" for a friend, they don't like the answers that are given.
You asked, we answered. NO one is ranting. And if any Marine here wants to rant, they can.
You and your friend want "professional advice', as MOS4429 already posted, HE needs to talk with a recruiter. They are the "professionals". It's their job.......and they are the ones with the most up-to-date and accurate info.
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10-13-11, 01:40 PM #11I didn't get it either and don't know how my responses were taken as 'rants' or 'drama'. Originally Posted by SoftballCatch23
If fact, I went out of my way to be polite.
If I wanted to 'rant' I would have been much more blunt.
They were legit questions/comments based on what was posted.
Correct...some just don't like the answers.
Carry on....
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10-13-11, 01:59 PM #12
I'm sorry for coming off that way, just frustrating when you aren't given the answer say "push this button and all dreams will come true" lol sorry again. Hopefully this can be figured out i would really like to see him there and me aswell.
Another question, i don't know if i read this correctly or not, but if you have 15 college credits do you need the ged to back it up still or are you ok with just the 15 credits ?
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10-13-11, 02:02 PM #13
Read the stickies, that's what they are there for.
Ged/diploma/college Credit Question...start Here
http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=96657
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10-13-11, 02:06 PM #14
And he saw a recruiter in 2009 and they walked him to the armys door steps, the recruiter I'm working with tends to be more easy going and willing to help, could it be he should talk to more then one recruiter ? The first recruiter I talked to walked me to the armys door steps aswell but I immediately went to a different recruiter and he pretty much got me where I'm at now...almost ready to enlist. Should he try the same ?
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10-13-11, 02:11 PM #15 Originally Posted by SoftballCatch23
lol thank you softball, sorry for the inconvenience
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