Recon/Marsoc

[SnowByThePound]

My original plan was to enlist as an 03 and eventually indoc for Recon. I know to take one step at a time but it is a goal.

With that being said, i have a previous posession charge for MJ when i was 16, which was 6 years ago so it is not a possibility for me at this time. Just hoping someone could elaborate somewhat on that issue.

I do understand that according to the job enlistment, it is stated that you cannot have a waiver above the recruiting level in order to recieve that indoc, but also that after becomming a Marine, some of those past issues are more or less negated.

Simply put, is there still a possibility, that i will be able to recieve an indoc to tryout in 2 years or after my first enlistment/Deployment if proven physically/mentally worthy?

Sorry if this question has been answered, could not find anything in comparison. If the answer is simply no than feel free to lay it out on a brick. Just trying to plan out my future goals and will serve with a solid mindset no matter what the outcome may be.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

I would say, if I read this correctly, yes. Indoc's are always going on.

[SnowByThePound]

I would say, if I read this correctly, yes. Indoc's are always going on.

My fault for the long questionaire. rephrase to simplify.

I required a waiver for posession of MJ at 16 yrs old(passed). Am 22 currently.
After a few years in the fleet/deployment under my belt ----- will i have the possibility for the indoc considering my past? What if i chose to enlist as a Combat Engineer rather than infantry due do the wait on open ITB slots?


Thanks for the previous and forcomming replie/s. Accepting your "yes" answer just wanted to clarify due to possibly lack of understanding.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Thanks for the clarification. At THIS point in time (because none of us can predict the future) I stand by my 'Yes' answer. Think you'll be OK. They USED to have open indoc calls about every six months or so.

[SnowByThePound]

Thanks for the clarification. At THIS point in time (because none of us can predict the future) I stand by my 'Yes' answer. Think you'll be OK. They USED to have open indoc calls about every six months or so.

I am the one who needs to be thanking you, for the knowledge.

To add to my question.. if the ultimate goal resides in going Recon, rather than forseering a career outside of the military, but within. Would you suggest waiting 6-10 months for an infantry slot to open, or accepting an enlistment as a Combat Engineer.

Will work hard either way, but my initial reason for joining the Marine Corps was to be.. "a badass grunt", Sort of speak.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

That one, I'm afraid, I can't answer with much clarity. Totally depends on your situation. Would it be easier to transition from 'Infantry' to 'Marsoc'? "Maybe".

I wish I could be more specific for you but I really can't. Perhaps someone else will come along and give a better answer than I can.

[SnowByThePound]

That one, I'm afraid, I can't answer with much clarity. Totally depends on your situation. Would it be easier to transition from 'Infantry' to 'Marsoc'? "Maybe".

I wish I could be more specific for you but I really can't. Perhaps someone else will come along and give a better answer than I can.

Understood. I do not think anyone can properly answer the question without taking a statistical tally of some sort. Just a bit worried that having such goal will be crushed due to my lack of patience rather than lack of integrity/motivation. As expressed in a few other posts regaurding semi different situations, will just have to think about if its worth willing such a career, or if i can accept the responsibility of being the best i can be in a supporting function for those who are succeeding in that dream most of us signing contracts dream off.

Truly though, thanks for taking the time on replying, and if anyone has information regaurding my situation, it is greatly accepted and appreciated.

[SNusbaumer]

I just finished writing an article on MSOSG, which will be recruiting almost a thousand Marines into MARSOC. But first you need to put your time into the Corps. And you have to do well. Still, this can be a good alternative for those in Combat Support who want a new challenge.

[SnowByThePound]

I just finished writing an article on MSOSG, which will be recruiting almost a thousand Marines into MARSOC. But first you need to put your time into the Corps. And you have to do well. Still, this can be a good alternative for those in Combat Support who want a new challenge.

Thank you, will have to look into that article some.

[SNusbaumer]

I believe the article will be in the August Leatherneck issue, which will come out at the end of July. These so-called "support" Marines are interesting, with a mission that is certainly challenging. So if a Marine is interested in unconventional warfare and MARSOC, there are two ways to go. One is to become a Critical Skill Operator, which everyone knows about, or to become a Capabilities Specialist, which most people think are simply support Marines. They are much more. And both are deployed in MSOTs (Teams), the small units that are the backbone of Marine Special Operations Forces.

[2nd0321]

From the information i have about MARSOC you dont have to be a 03xx. It is easier to be one then Recon. The requirements are less then you have for Recon. The indoc use to be open every third Thursday when i was going through the process.All you can do is put in a package for MARSOC and if you get acepted then you are in. I dont know much about MARSOC just Recon. If im wrong please feel free to correct me. Hope this helps. You must also be able to get a security clearence for it so if your MJ issue stops you from that you might not be able too.

[2nd0321]

MY info came from a recruiter. That might be the best way to find out or a career planner if you are already in. If not talk to one they can tell you more.

[SNusbaumer]

True, MARSOC is actually open to all MOSs. No, MARSOC is not easy, in fact they are trying to lower the wash-out rate. They started ASPOC to identify some of the problems in A&S that is leading to the high failure rate.

BTW, have started an article on 2nd Force Recon, but that probably won't be published until September, maybe October.

[SnowByThePound]

From the information i have about MARSOC you dont have to be a 03xx. It is easier to be one then Recon. The requirements are less then you have for Recon. The indoc use to be open every third Thursday when i was going through the process.All you can do is put in a package for MARSOC and if you get acepted then you are in. I dont know much about MARSOC just Recon. If im wrong please feel free to correct me. Hope this helps. You must also be able to get a security clearence for it so if your MJ issue stops you from that you might not be able too.

Aye. The reason i question the acceptance of Marines outside of the 03xx field is because from the visuals/knowledge I've learned so far, being an 03 is where you get the extensive daily physical strengths needed for such a career, to atleast make your try out easier.

Definately understand that having required an MJ Waiver pretty much puts the options out of my reach, but hoping that down the road, if Recon/MARSOC are still something that interest me after experiencing the Marine Corps., then that issue will be looked upon a little lighter due to it being so long ago, and showing/earning respect during my first enlistment.(Surely there is no way to vouch but it's what i am being told is a possibility)


Ty to all the Marines who replied to the thread, it's good to know there are some other options in regards to going that route and i'll have to look into them more.

Feel free to shed anything else you have to offer about steps needed to succeed, aside from being physically fit. I have asked questions in my RSS but the only Marine i know who had interests in that, washed out because of swim qualifications. So the absolute knowledge if it doesn't go too far.

[SnowByThePound]

BTW, have started an article on 2nd Force Recon, but that probably won't be published until September, maybe October.

If there is a way i could get a glimpse of your previous article which you stated would be released the August issue, i'd definitly enjoy the read. I only ask because at that time I will not be able to catch view of it for a while. Thanks.



My fault on double posting. Ran out of edit time.