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Thread: Should I lie at MEPS?
05-14-11, 04:10 PM #1
Should I lie at MEPS?
Hello, all. First, thank you for serving this great country, especially in the Marine Corps. Anyway, I am about to enroll in the DEP, but I am at a crossroad. A couple years ago, I was put on anti-depressants for a three year stretch. I was prescribed several different medications with several visits in that time span. I never took the meds though. My parents were going through a divorce, and my parents MADE me go to the doctors. They were really messed up at the time, and everything was crazy. Regardless, my medical records look terrible. I want to get a waiver, so I don't feel like I am sneaking in to the military. However, I went to the doctor to look at the f**king book that is my medical record now, and it would be a sure DQ I think. I tried getting the stuff removed now that I am eighteen and I never felt I needed it anyway. He said he couldn't do that, but I was able to file a note of disagreement. Should I just lie at MEPS about all of this bs? Also, I have a missing molar tooth from a wisdom tooth surgery, but my recruiter says it is no big deal, and that once they see it on the xray they won't care. Is that true? I hope I don't come off as high maintenance or like a possible detriment to the Corps. The last thing I want to do is lie. However, in my eyes, that does not break the core value of honor as it is trivial. These "conditions" don't affect me whatsoever and do not matter. I will pass BCT and become a Marine no matter what. Thanks in advance, everyone.
05-14-11, 04:18 PM #2
fill out your profile son you are violating rules already
05-14-11, 04:22 PM #3
If you enlist, you will be the subject of a NACLC background investigation at a minimum, which is a secret level investigation. They will gain access to your medical records because you will be required to sign a medical release form upon initiation of the background investigation.
05-14-11, 04:22 PM #4
First, PM Sgt Leprechaun and ask him to move this to the Ask A Marine forum. Don't double post.
Second, no profile, no answers......site rules, which can be found in the poolee and Ask A Marine forums.
Third...try doing a search on the site as this topic has been covered before.
Fourth...you lie now, you'll continue to lie.
Fifth....if you do happen to get a waiver for being on anti-depressants, you ever hear of fraudulent enlistment?
05-14-11, 04:31 PM #5
05-14-11, 04:33 PM #6
Yes, I know about fraudelent enlistment and that is one of the reason's I don't want to lie. I know I won't continue to lie because this is something that was not my fault. If I do not lie, I don't get a chance. I'm not some shady guy trying to cut corners or something. I have wanted to be a Marine my whole life, and I won't let some prescription happy doctor and my parents crap ruin it. The only way I will be caught is if it comes up, which it never will because it is not an issue. They don't check records for every recruit; it would cost too much. My only concern is the missing tooth leading to them actually pulling my records. Sorry if I posted in the wrong spot by the way. I'm new to this forum. Thanks for answering.
05-14-11, 04:50 PM #7
Look at it this way: Down the road while job hunting, you can say, "I tried to enlist in the Marines, but I was medically disqualified." Or, do you want to say, "I lied about my medical background to get in the Marines, but they caught me, and threw me out on a fraudulent enlistment."
Which statement is more likely to loose you another job opportunity and which is going to at least keep you in the running? The truth.
Believe me when I say that if the Corps can find out, so can a civilian employer if they want to badly enough.
05-14-11, 04:57 PM #8
05-14-11, 06:45 PM #9
Should I lie at MEPS is like asking if I should Sh*t in the rain room, dont make no fu**in sense. Tell the fu**in truth and whatever happens happens. Explain the situation to the doc at MEPS and go from there. Our core values are Honor, Courage, Commitment. You cant have one without the others and there is no honor in lying. I apologize for the foul language but lying is the one thing I probably hate the most.
05-14-11, 07:30 PM #10
Barron, while I understand your plight to want to be a Marine at all cost, please don't take the advice of a person whose sole mission on LN.com is to be the board contrarian. He does not have your best interest at heart.
Though most who enlist fraudulently do not get caught, many do. Do you want to take that chance?
Check out these two links:
This one will explain what actually can happen to you if you are caught after fraudulently enlisting -
This one has examples of people who got caught and what happened to them -
Again, don't just take the word of somebody who has nothing to lose if you get caught. Do a little research on the web. There are many examples out there if you google "consequences for fraudulent enlistment".
05-14-11, 08:36 PM #11
I have never lied while in the Corps or even before , and that's my story and I'm STICKING TO IT !
I'm one of the few , according to the previous post !
I know of guys who thought they were Marines , but they fib !
05-14-11, 08:37 PM #12
I am very glad about two things, Aloha: #1 - I will never have you working for me, and #2 - I will never work for you. Your integrity has been lost someplace, if it ever existed.
05-14-11, 08:37 PM #13
As I said, if you took the time to read properly without going off halfcocked, most do not get caught.
Let me underline that for you most...hell I'll even capitalize it for you since your attention to detail is lacking. MOST. I'll even take it one step farther so that you'll be sure to see it this time, MOST do not get caught.
But what you failed to share with him, in that first post, is the fact that some have and do. You were more concerned with flipping off the board to make a point that you purposely left out a detail that is factual.
Just because you can lie without blinking an eye and didn't get caught does not mean he will share your same fate. I'm sure you're intelligent enough to figure that out. Or maybe not...
Last edited by Sgt Leprechaun; 05-15-11 at 06:13 PM.
05-14-11, 08:57 PM #14
He'll come out a civilian while his peers that did lie go on to succesful careers in the United States Marine corps.
05-14-11, 09:11 PM #15
Can't believe even the title of the thread. How sad, how truly sad. And yes it's in all branches.
Can you imagine Chesty, Bull Halsey Dick Winters, my Dad, your Dad even thinking about such a question?
To the OP, are you in the habit of being a liar in your everyday life? If the answer is even a sometimes go find yourself another line of work. Why? Because a liar can't be trusted. Once you lose trust, damn hard to get it back
Start examining who you are, what your core values are before it's too late for you
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