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04-15-11, 10:44 PM #31
I guess I'm showing my age (and I always thought I was a "young one" here), but the way I was brought up in the Corps, it was "Pogue" not "POG"[quote]
Yea, I was taught the same thing, its just I changed it when I got sick of everyone trying to convince me its just "POG"....no one ever said grunts were smart lol
By the way, I didn't mean for this to be a flame war...it was just a question to get some input from the other side...
04-16-11, 01:25 AM #32
04-16-11, 06:24 AM #33
What was wrong from the old way of telling us apart. We all weighed 130-160, we had this distinctive red dust staining our skin and our cloths and we had this "look" in our eyes. Of course to us it was all normal. Most would tell you that we could be spotted a mile away from other Marines.
04-16-11, 06:43 AM #34
I didnt mean that as a personal attack with the earlier post of mine.
Trust me please when i tell you that some of us here were "Combat" veterans,
before combat veterans were cool.
"Vietnam" is my example
Most of us from my era returned home to a country that you could only read about in a history book if you could find one that told the truth. (riots , civil disturbances, and worse)Draft protesters & anti war rallys. We were outcasts of the american society. Called baby killers and scorned by the general american population , berated by the newspapers, radio, and television news.
There wasn't an EXCEPTION just for having been a POG or a GRUNT. No dispensations i guess you can say.
Marines are special to any of us who have served as one. I am proud to have
served as one, and to have served with others of the same title. You carry PRIDE
on the inside and not worry about what the outside world thinks.
P.S. lots of pog's other than grunt are with you everyday in the corps,, you may just have failed to notice them, Comm, Corpsmen,Engineers. FAC, Anglico, "just to name a few"
Good Night Chesty Puller where ever you are.
Semper Fidelis Marine, good health, god bless you and all my younger brothers who follow with the title of United States Marine
04-16-11, 08:08 AM #35
I know that we here have no control over many things !
Has anyone here ever thought that just maybe the Corps is too budget minded on things !
When I was in Nam , I had a bad habit of obtaining stuff with the five finger discount from my Army comrades who had about everything !
I had to do what a Marine , who lacked the latest stuff available had to do in the Marine tradition under the laws of supply ( the Army had it ) and demand ( we Marines needed it ) , under war time conditions using the improvise , adapt and overcome method .
04-16-11, 08:33 AM #36
The Marines have always had the short end of the stick, when it comes to having the latest or the newest or even enough ammo for what weapon was most used. One of the reasons we pride ourselves on overcoming adversity and thinking outside the box. It is the intangibles that set us apart from others, the fierce pride in doing more with less and never quitting, no matter the odds against success. And as far as this talk about some kind of separate mark of distinction to identify Marine infantry, whoever or whenever this topic was brought up, I vote against it. All Marines know that you either fight the enemy directly or indirectly and the infantry has a special place among Marines for their place in this equation. There is no reason to change the tradition of letting our victories and our accomplishment of our missions against all enemies around the world, from doing all the talking necessary for what and who we are. Our mare presence or anticipated arrival is sometimes all that is needed to influence the situation and I feel there is no valid reason to determine a need to identify us differently from other Marine functions, by any kind of uniform change. The pride and honor that this Marine grunt has is more than enough for me and I require no other identifying device.
Semper Fi, Scott
04-16-11, 09:20 AM #37
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04-16-11, 12:12 PM #41
the people that were in the sh*t, you didnt think of mos, maybe iam wrong , we need to have grunt day,
04-16-11, 12:39 PM #42
I was a comm pogue,and did a little ducking,but nothing like the Grunts. That said,
I didn't get to shoot back but I sure did my share of backup,always waiting.......my chance of being in the "****",never happened. My Hat is off to all Grunts and all who did
their best to support them.
04-16-11, 10:07 PM #43
This whole feel good "We are all Marines" stuff is PC bull****.
04-16-11, 10:36 PM #44
04-17-11, 07:34 AM #45
if a grunts are so special ---------why dont they put in a package and go to courthouse bay or stone bay and get some---------------
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