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03-30-11, 06:40 PM #46
Jason, time to lock this one up Brother.
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03-30-11, 06:44 PM #47
I didn't t realize there was another thread going in Ask a Marine
Josh I'll give you credit you may be a disrespectful wise$ass but you sound sincere But as I pointed out to you earlier, the decision has been made. The Corps is downsizing by about 50K.They can be very selective in whom they allow to enlist. But as this post says and I wanted to give the postie credit
Corps policy states that any tattoos, branding or body markings within two inches of the natural bend of the wrist are prohibited. Until that policy changes (and I don't see it changing) you are ineligible for service in the Marine Corps. That is the cold, hard truth."
I sincerely hope you try another branch. You can do intel work in the Navy. I can send you some info re. Navy MOS if you want via a PM or you can visit a Navy recruiter.
03-30-11, 06:56 PM #48
Could be..he was trying to include Marines who were typically considered
outcasts. These types, will sometimes, fight to the death for their unit or
the mission. Not that the perfectly squared away Marine wouldn't fight to
the death but..his life may mean more to him and his family than the brig rat who has nothing to lose.
Thanks for the thoughts Gunny. This young man is not a Marine and could
use an attitude adjustment.
Hope he gets it.
03-30-11, 06:57 PM #49
03-30-11, 07:01 PM #50
The army will take a smartazz like that anytime, get fitted for your Christmas tree, Semper Fidelis.
03-30-11, 07:05 PM #51
i don't see how i was being a smart ass, i was asking for information and was responding to posts accordingly. I apologize if i came across as disrespectful. I will admit my manners aren't exactly "high society"
03-30-11, 07:11 PM #52
Thank you, and again I have never been one for manners, one of the many things i hope too learn while in service.
"Marines aren't born, they are made" I don't remember where i heard that, but it stuck with me
If marines won't take me, the navy will, they don't have a policy on tattoos (as far as i know).
I would also like too formally apologize if i've offended anybody with my rudeness or "wise@ss" responses. I will be the first too admit that i DO need an attitude adjustment, the i thought the Corps would provide me with that service.
That being said I'm still going too notify my Congressman of this situation I am in, and still plan on going Marines, no matter what i have too do. Navy is my plan B, but i'm going too make damn sure that plan A is completely out of the question before i even consider changing plans
Again, I'm sorry if I've offended anyone or disrespected anyone.
03-30-11, 07:17 PM #53
"If marines won't take me, the navy will, they don't have a policy on tattoos (as far as i know)."
Sorry Josh but yes they do
WASHINGTON (NNS) -- Chief of Naval Personnel Vice Adm. John C. Harvey Jr. released a message March 21 clarifying the Navy’s regulations regarding tattoos, body art and/or mutilations and dental ornamentation.
The message underscores Navy policy that already prohibits any body art deemed prejudicial to good order, discipline and morale or of a nature to bring discredit upon the naval service.
“This is directly tied to the public appearance of our personnel," said Rear Adm. Gerry Talbot, director, Military Personnel Plans and Policy Division, Chief of Naval Personnel. "How we look in uniform, how we represent our Navy and our nation should be something we consider on a daily basis, on duty or off.”
Navy policy stipulates that any tattoo/body art/brand that is obscene, sexually explicit or advocates discrimination of any sort is prohibited. Administrative separation could result for personnel disregarding this guidance.
Four criteria have been issued to commanders to assist them in determining whether a tattoo, body art or brand should be permitted: content, location, size and whether the item is required for cosmetic purposes.
“It is important to clarify our policy to ensure everyone understands the criteria,” said Talbot.
Location is as important as the content of the tattoo. Tattoos/body art/brands cannot be visible through the white uniform and cannot be on the head, face, neck or scalp regions. Items on the lower arm can be no larger than the wearer’s hand, fingers closed.
The message also points out Navy policy restricting intentional mutilation of any sort. This is defined as radical alteration of the body, head, face or skin for the purpose of an abnormal appearance.
Dental ornamentation - the use of gold, platinum or other veneers or caps for decorative purposes is also prohibited.
Waivers for pre-existing conditions will be considered on a case-by-case basis by local commanders. They have discretion to determine whether removal is required, but items may be waived if they are not prejudicial to good order, discipline and morale.
03-30-11, 07:23 PM #54
I was not aware of this, thank you for the information.
At least this will help my argument that it is barely visible “This is directly tied to the public appearance of our personnel,"
"How we look in uniform, how we represent our Navy and our nation should be something we consider on a daily basis, on duty or off.”
what is keeping me from entry isn't visible too the naked eye unless closely examined, although it is larger than my fist, and it is past my natural fold on the top side. Well, it's still a long shot but whatever information i can use, is appreciated greatly.
03-30-11, 07:24 PM #55
Well I'm 23 minutes past Dog Watch. Time a cold one.
Fair Winds Marines
03-30-11, 07:24 PM #56
03-30-11, 07:48 PM #57
03-30-11, 07:51 PM #58
I'll take a #5 on the lunch menu please.
03-30-11, 07:52 PM #59
I apologize, i did not communicate that clearly.
I meant if they Navy had any issue with it. Sorry, I'm doing multiple things at once. I'm currently reading and re-reading the Marine's policy on this website http://usmilitary.about.com/od/marines/a/tattoo.htm
03-30-11, 07:54 PM #60
"Half-sleeve or quarter sleeve tattoos that are visible to the eye when wearing standard PT Gear (T-shirt and shorts). A half-sleeve or quarter-sleeve tattoo is defined as a very large tattoo or collection of smaller tattoos that covers, or almost covers the entire portion of an army or leg above or below the elbow or knee."
this one has caught my eye a number of times because of the statement "that are visible to the eye"
is this taken directly from the Marine's rule books or is this paraphrased in any way. A suggestion too a site with the most reliable information would be greatly appreciated.
"Marines who currently have a sleeve tattoo(s) prior to 1 April 2007, will be grandfathered. The Marine's command will insert a photograph(s) of the respective (tattoo(s) along with a measurement(s) of the size in inches and of the location(s) on the body and the date the tattoo(s) was documented, on the Page 11 of the Marine's SRB. The Marine will sign the Page 11 entry verifying the information is correct."
this one as well. does it mean already enlisted marines? or those looking too enlist. I got mine on my 16th birthday (February 19th 2007)
although i did not keep any documentation, but i have witnesses
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