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    Anyone ever try to get a job with a govt. agency?

    I posted this on another board, but figured I would post it on this one as well.


    When I got out I went through the process of working for the TSA, but ultimately decided that wasn't what I wanted to do with my life. I pretty much had the job, but I wasn't feeling it. Has anyone ever tried to apply to anything like the US Marshals, FBI, CIA, NSA, whatever? If so, talk about it here.


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    What is there to say?


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    I worked for Army Corps of Engineers for awhile but that's a little different.

    For government jobs, you'll get points added to any test you may take. I know there is a law or whatever -- something -- that states if you apply for a position for which you are qualified, you will get preferential treatment. I'll try to find it for you. It could just be for my state too, but I'll see what I can come up with.

    Have you gone to the government job bank yet?


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    Quote Originally Posted by tdrt View Post
    I worked for Army Corps of Engineers for awhile but that's a little different.

    For government jobs, you'll get points added to any test you may take. I know there is a law or whatever -- something -- that states if you apply for a position for which you are qualified, you will get preferential treatment. I'll try to find it for you. It could just be for my state too, but I'll see what I can come up with.

    Have you gone to the government job bank yet?
    Hey lady.....!!!


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    I don't even know what that is. I'm really just looking for a direction to look towards.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tdrt View Post
    I worked for Army Corps of Engineers for awhile but that's a little different.

    For government jobs, you'll get points added to any test you may take. I know there is a law or whatever -- something -- that states if you apply for a position for which you are qualified, you will get preferential treatment. I'll try to find it for you. It could just be for my state too, but I'll see what I can come up with.

    Have you gone to the government job bank yet?
    Your talking about Veteran Preference Points. I got to use the 10 point Preference to land my Civil Service job on Camp Pendleton. As of right now for Pendleton there is a government hiring freeze along with the pay freeze. It sucks because we have all these new buildings coming online and we rate a worker for a certain amount of square footage with all the buildings on base. so as of now we are under TO. As for the Vet Points read below to see if you qualify!

    Veteran's Employment Preference Points Overview

    By law, veterans who are disabled or who served on active duty in the Armed Forces during certain specified time periods or in military campaigns are entitled to preference over non veterans both in hiring from competitive lists of eligibles and in retention during reductions in force.
    The goal of the Veteran's Preference is not to the place a veteran in every vacant Federal job. However, preference does provide a uniform method by which special consideration is given to qualified veterans seeking Federal employment.
    Preference applies in hiring from civil service examinations, for most excepted service jobs, and when agencies make temporary appointments or use direct hire and delegated examining authorities from the U. S. Office of Personnel Management.

    General Requirements for Preference

    To be entitled to preference, a veteran must meet the eligibility requirements in section 2108 of title 5, United States Code. This means that:
    • An honorable or general discharge is necessary.
    • Military retirees at the rank of major, lieutenant commander, or higher are not eligible for preference unless they are disabled veterans.
    • Guard and Reserve active duty for training purposes does not qualify for preference.
    • When applying for Federal jobs, eligible veterans should claim preference on their application or resume. Applicants claiming 10-point preference must complete form SF-15, Application for 10-Point Veteran Preference.
    Types of Preference

    5-Point Preference

    Five points are added to the passing examination score or rating of a veteran who served:
    • During a war; or
    • During the period April 28, 1952 through July 1, 1955; or
    • For more than 180 consecutive days, other than for training, any part of which occurred after January 31, 1955, and before October 15, 1976; or
    • During the Gulf War from August 2, 1990, through January 2, 1992; or
    • For more than 180 consecutive days, other than for training, any part of which occurred during the period beginning September 11, 2001, and ending on the date prescribed by Presidential proclamation or by law as the last day of Operation Iraqi Freedom; or
    • In a campaign or expedition for which a campaign medal has been authorized. Any Armed Forces Expeditionary medal or campaign badge, including El Salvador, Lebanon, Grenada, Panama, Southwest Asia, Somalia, and Haiti, qualifies for preference.
    A campaign medal holder or Gulf War veteran who originally enlisted after September 7, 1980, (or began active duty on or after October 14, 1982, and has not previously completed 24 months of continuous active duty) must have served continuously for 24 months or the full period called or ordered to active duty. The 24-month service requirement does not apply to 10-point preference eligibles separated for disability incurred or aggravated in the line of duty, or to veterans separated for hardship or other reasons under 10 U.S.C. 1171 or 1173.


    10-Point Preference


    Ten points are added to the passing examination score of:
    • A veteran who served any time and who (1) has a present service- connected disability or (2) is receiving compensation, disability retirement benefits, or pension from the military or the Department of Veterans Affairs. Individuals who received a Purple Heart qualify as disabled veterans.
    • An unmarried spouse of certain deceased veterans, a spouse of a veteran unable to work because of a service-connected disability, and
    • A mother of a veteran who died in service or who is permanently and totally disabled.
    How it Works

    If you meet the criteria for preference and achieve a score of 70 or higher either by a written examination or an evaluation of your experience and education, you will have 5 or 10 points added to your numerical ratings depending on the nature of their preference. For scientific and professional positions in grade GS-9 or higher, names of all eligibles are listed in order of ratings, augmented by veteran preference, if any. For all other positions, the names of 10-point preference eligibles who have a compensable, service-connected disability of 10 percent or more are placed ahead of the names of all other eligibles on a given register. The names of other 10-point preference eligibles, 5-point preference eligibles, and non-veterans are listed in order of their numerical ratings.
    Entitlement to veterans' preference does not guarantee a job. There are many ways an agency can fill a vacancy other than by appointment from a list of eligibles.

    Filing Applications After Examinations Have Closed

    A 10-point preference eligible may file an application at any time for any positions for which a non-temporary appointment has been made from a competitive list of eligibles within the past 3 years.
    In addition, a person who is unable to file for an open competitive examination because of military service may file after the closing date. In either of the above situations, the veteran should contact the agency that announced the position for further information.
    In addition certain examinations are open only to preference eligibles as long as such applicants are available. These are custodian, guard, elevator operator and messenger.

    Veterans Recruitment Appointment (VRA)

    Under the VRA, a you can be appointed to a white -collar position through GS 11 without having to compete with other applicants.
    The VRA is open to you if you are a disabled veteran who served on active duty during a war or major campaign and you have left the service under honorable conditions within three years.

    http://www.*************/benefits/ve...ference-points


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    Yes. Go to www.usajobs.com. It lets you search darned near ANYthing you might want. Be forewarned, lots of reserve jobs pop up. But you can narrow it down by base, state, location, or job title.

    And I have a fedjob (LEO) and do (*some*) work in the hiring process. Drop me a PM.


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    Try this link Chad, it may help.
    http://www.opm.gov/


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    Thanks to everyone for being so helpful. I am just trying to find a direction for myself when I feel like I am ignorant to what jobs are actually out there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Leddy View Post
    Thanks to everyone for being so helpful. I am just trying to find a direction for myself when I feel like I am ignorant to what jobs are actually out there.
    Chad be advised that you'll be checked out pretty thoroughly, depending whom you work for and what you'll be doing

    Also, The Fed requires a specific type of resume so that their electronic scanners can more easily pick out key words and phrases. Do a search for Fed. resumes and how to create one

    Good luck to you


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    Quote Originally Posted by USNAviator View Post
    Chad be advised that you'll be checked out pretty thoroughly, depending whom you work for and what you'll be doing

    Also, The Fed requires a specific type of resume so that their electronic scanners can more easily pick out key words and phrases. Do a search for Fed. resumes and how to create one

    Good luck to you
    Try this link..
    http://images.*************/ContentF...esHandbook.pdf


    For whatever reason the link isnt coming out...

    Last edited by ChuckH; 02-10-11 at 12:47 PM. Reason: Link isnt working

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    Quote Originally Posted by USNAviator View Post
    Chad be advised that you'll be checked out pretty thoroughly, depending whom you work for and what you'll be doing

    Also, The Fed requires a specific type of resume so that their electronic scanners can more easily pick out key words and phrases. Do a search for Fed. resumes and how to create one

    Good luck to you
    Thanks for the info! What kind of stuff would they be checking? I've never done drugs, I've never been convicted of any crime, the closest thing to law trouble I've ever had was a fix-it ticket that was easily dropped.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Leddy View Post
    Thanks for the info! What kind of stuff would they be checking? I've never done drugs, I've never been convicted of any crime, the closest thing to law trouble I've ever had was a fix-it ticket that was easily dropped.
    Basically just a routine back ground check to start with. If you're clean you've got nothing to worry about. If not them you should reveal it. Also, I suspect they'll do a credit check. Having good credit shows that you are fiscally responsible, shows you can betrusted. Poor credit might mean a job candidate might be tempted to "put their fingers into the till" especially if they are around money

    The higher up you go the deeper the vetting process becomes. It's where they start interviewing neighbors, teachers, employers etc. Oh expect them to scour the social networks, such as Face Book. They may even ask for all your passwords

    Hope this helps


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    I worked as a contractor for the Agency for International Developement for a while and had to go through the whole .... I think 11 page background check survey and then a personal interview. They do take a close look at you and your family and your friends.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckH View Post
    Try this link..
    http://images.military dot com/Conte...esHandbook.pdf


    For whatever reason the link isnt coming out...
    Put military dot com in where the ***** are


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