Bob, in my haste to "unload", I didn't mean to question the dedication of either the draftees or volunteers. (I was a volunteer that was going to get drafted! So rather than be a doggy if I got drafted, I chose to be a Marine and volunteered) What I really should have emphasized, was the deplorable waste of lives that were scarred by being discharged from the service without an honorable discharge. I'm sure that you took the same Oath of Allegiance in the 70s that I took in the 60s and that many took in the 40s. And if those words were as valid then as they are now, then I think it is a sad state of affairs that some of the people I knew back in the 50s were destroyed because they simply couldn't "fit in". And I guess that what I mean is that if they couldn't "fit in" back then, then why do the ones nowadays that can't "fit in" get off Scot-free (more or less). And mind you, I don't know anyone personally that is in this category. I just hear about it on the radio (and not that often - it's not like this happens every day!) and I could be all wet. I haven't applied for a job lately, but I know for a fact that back in the 60s when you went to apply for a job you were asked those kind of questions - "What is your draft status", "Were you honorably discharged from the service?" and etc. If you couldn't answer that you were honorably discharged, then "We have no work for you!" Now that I do know happened.