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pyropinoy
09-25-10, 01:02 AM
Hey y'all just have question that maybe sum1 on this site could answer for me..
I have been told that if the DADT policy is repealed..that all service members that had enlisted under the DADT policy, have the option to early out with all their benefits. Due to the fact the contracts that they had signed are voided because they enlisted under the DADT policy contract...is this true? And if it is will the military make it difficult to do or will it be as simple as just EASing?

sparkie
09-25-10, 07:20 AM
I SERIOUSLY doubt that. They will just remove the command,,"To the rear,,March".

Quinbo
09-25-10, 07:32 AM
Really sounds like the speculations of a sea lawyer to me.

sparkie
09-25-10, 07:35 AM
Scuttlebutt. [did I spell that right?]

Theoldgunny
09-25-10, 07:54 AM
the old contact would not be broken so you would not be albe to get out the only difference would be that the gay would be able to tell you and make a pass if he wanted to and you could tell him what you wanted but no you cant hit him no difference than if you were out on liberty and a gay hit on you

usmc3521
09-25-10, 03:53 PM
pvt pillow biter reporting as ordered!!!!!

The DUKE
09-25-10, 06:24 PM
Its not going to make any diff, current contracts aside, but I did hear that they Federal government under oslamba hussein bayrock wanted the D.O.J. to look into dissolving the rules that restrict the people being allowed in under emitigating circumstances, which ultimately means they want to now make it okie dokie for rapist, child molesters and pedophiles to get into the Corps, and they are thinking if that works out okay they want to wave the prior crimes against society and allow early released felons in the corp as well, I mean we gotta get them jobs somewhere right???:bunny: Gotta be PC now right, no holding them back just cause!

USNAviator
09-25-10, 07:05 PM
I don't want to get into a political or moral session here. I never paid much attention to DADT. but here in a nutshell is what it encompasses

Don't ask, don't tell (DADT) is the common term for the policy restricting the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States) military from efforts to discover or reveal closeted (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closeted) gay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay), lesbian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian), and bisexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexual) service members or applicants, while barring those who are openly gay, lesbian, or bisexual from military service. The restrictions are mandated by federal law Pub.L. 103-160 (http://assembler.law.cornell.edu/usc-cgi/get_external.cgi?type=pubL&target=103-160) (10 U.S.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_10_of_the_United_States_Code) 654 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/654.html)). Unless one of the exceptions from 10 U.S.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_10_of_the_United_States_Code) 654(b) (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/10/654.html#b) applies, the policy prohibits anyone who "demonstrate(s) a propensity or intent to engage in homosexual acts" from serving in the armed forces of the United States (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_of_the_United_States), because "it would create an unacceptable risk to the high standards of morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion that are the essence of military capability." The act prohibits any homosexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality) or bisexual (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality) person from disclosing his or her sexual orientation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation) or from speaking about any homosexual relationships, including marriages or other familial attributes, while serving in the United States armed forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_armed_forces). As it exists, DADT specifies that the "don't ask" part of the policy indicates that superiors should not initiate investigation of a service member's orientation in the absence of disallowed behaviors, though credible and articulable evidence of homosexual behavior may cause an investigation. Violations of this aspect through persecutions and harassment of suspected servicemen and women resulted in the policy's current formulation as don't ask, don't tell, don't harass, don't pursue.

Marine84
09-25-10, 08:33 PM
I can remember when they asked if you were homosexual.

usmc3521
09-25-10, 08:59 PM
they need to leave it in place. I could seriously care less who would rather muff dive or pack fudge as long as its kept quiet. Simply put your sexual life needs to stay private regardless of your preference and by being able to flaunt that you are a faggot does nothing but cause trouble in the ranks.

Just like the dumb ***** from the us military academy or whatever who felt compelled to share with everyone she was a carpet muncher because she just couldnt keep it in anymore. Serves her right to get booted, nobody cares what you do in your bedroom but when you feel the need to tell everyone you are queer you are just starting **** so bye bye. Keep dont ask dont tell. I dont want to know if the guy next to me would rather suck d*ck, I just want to know if he will give his life for me in combat

Garyius
09-26-10, 10:02 AM
It means that gays will start openly serving.

I suspect it will lead to gays becoming favored for assignments and promotions within a few years.

lanced333
02-11-11, 03:47 PM
Its friggin disgusting , thats what it is ! Put it any way you want it, it will never do society or any branches of the Armed Forces any good ! In the end (no pun) it truly is another of the liberals methods to" try " and destroy one of the last greatest institutions of these United States of America !, the "United States Marine Corps". It wont ever totally happen, but what it will do is bring" AIDS" patients bills to the Marine corps table. obamas "folks" are already at the court house suing for marriage "rights" for homos. Wow California shut them down, other states were ready to shut-it down as well. Guess what if homo marriage passes in the Army...FEDERAL LAW IN EVERY STATE TO ALLOW homos TO MARRY ! What do you think about them idears ?

sparkie
02-12-11, 08:28 PM
Thread dregging,,,,,,,

Tennessee Top
02-12-11, 11:16 PM
Here's what I been wondering:

Is there still a mark on fitness reports for "military bearing"? Say you're writing a fitness report for a male Marine and he's "out" so you know he is gay. He sashays around in uniform, talks like a girl, and is generally highly effeminate. Wouldn't you have to mark him "unsat" for military bearing which would destroy any chance of promotion? Or, are they going to make some kind of rule prohibiting that so gays won't have to act like a man since they don't want to be one in the first place? What a can of worms! Glad I don't have to deal with it. Good luck to those who do.

Mongoose
02-13-11, 06:57 AM
Let me throw this out there. I wouldnt be surprised that in the future. We have a DADT for straight people wanting in the military.

Devil1087
02-13-11, 04:20 PM
lulz, maybe Shaffer's head will explode.

Ed Palmer
02-14-11, 03:01 PM
Don't Ask, Don't Tell Update 01: A group of House Democrats want troops previously dismissed under the ―don‘t ask, don‘t tell‖ law to be able to apply for honorable discharge status, opening the door...

leprechaun9544
02-15-11, 12:32 AM
Oh great...it just gets better and better ! Give me a break :mad:

crazymjb
02-15-11, 11:30 AM
So you have no issue with Marines who served honorably not being honorably discharged or being denied benefits because they were on the dude train back at home? Really? A Marine who likes dudes is...

ZSKI
02-15-11, 02:54 PM
I recently got briefed about the new policy. Apparently we Marines are leading the way and getting it done before every other service. Which i think shows are professionalism. Though we as a service apposed it, we are the first to follow the new order.

The guidance is the policy has been changed to more like Don't ask tell if you want to. Those Marines who decide to come out so to speak are to be treated with the same respect and rights as any other Marine. They will not be discriminated against. But at the same time any spouse they have will not be recognized as a dependent, since it is still against federal law. They will be expected to follow the same standards that every Marine does. So no cross dressing. Now as for article 125 it is now being enforced when the act is forced. But then again before this change if you ever had sex outside of missionary, received or given oral sex, you violated the article. Sodomy did not just refer to anal intercourse.

Now this is the extent of guidance given. More can be expect by july.

ZSKI
02-15-11, 03:03 PM
And that post probably shows why i failed the grammar MCI twice in the 8000 series

lanced333
02-15-11, 08:00 PM
One of the most ridiculous aspects of the many, if not infinite, problems that arise, is that we havent housed the male Marine with the female Marines because why?, next how then can you house one lesbian or one homo with another? , you cant unless you allow hetero's to be be housed together , right ? Where are the intelligent ones making these decisions ? back room trade-offs or what. My great new Sen. bent right over with this one, the guy had me fooled to the T, now scott brown can call himself another m******* along with kerry ! This Sen. was ask by me , a Marine father of an 0331, to line up my sons Plt and tell them why this DADT repeal is healthy for our Marines as he is quoted saying, I have not heard anything from his office in DC or Boston yet. No , I know he would never have the scrotum to do what is right for our Marines unless it promotes his political appearance, take my word he is a liar just like the rest ! I am rambling on here but it still is ashame that we cant have men, Man Enough To Be Men once again in the Senate our the House.!

lanced333
02-15-11, 08:06 PM
Crazymjb what are you saying ?

Sgt Leprechaun
02-15-11, 08:32 PM
Closed. This is a knife fight we don't need. To answer the original poster, won't happen.

And since I'm a mod, I get the last word...

Poofs don't belong in the military, openly, period.