Reserve to CID question

[EastofWest18]

Is there anyone on this forum who is familiar with CID's application process? I have seen a number of non-.mil websites that state to apply for CID one must be active duty as opposed to reserve. I have not seen anything on any .mil website that states it is necessary for someone to be active duty to apply, only to hold the position.

I am a long-term thought type of person, and I am interested in this MOS as a future career move. I currently have an enlisted reserve contract, and was curious if after 1) rank of Cpl. is achieved and 2) the 1.5 year reserve service time period before one can apply to go active were done someone could apply to go active duty and immediately become an apprentice for CID.

An additional two things. First, I understand that my first priority is to prepare for Boot Camp this October. I am not worrying about this future possibility over my immediate future, I am just curious to see if it will ever be a possibility. Second, I understand the other requirements such as the age, GT score, and clearance issues. I am asking a very narrow question regarding if it is a requirement to already by active duty before applying or if a reservist can apply and if accepted go active as an apprentice.

Bellow is a copy of the USMCHQ Security Divisions requirements for applying for CID (I believe that this happens to be CID's HQ website).
http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/PP&O/PS/psl/mosReqs.asp

Bellow is a copy of an example of a website that says one must be active duty to apply. I may not be reading the above requirements correctly, but I do not see a requirement to be active when making the initial application as is stated in this .com website.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2419872/how_to_join_the_marine_corps_criminal.html?cat=31

Thank you in advance for your responses Marines. If you would rather have this conversation via PM, feel free. I hope you all have a great day. I understand if nobody has the answer to this question, as it is rather technical.

[Zulu 36]

You have to be on active duty. It used to be you had to have been an MP first.

Concentrate on boot camp. Pre-planning is nice, but stay focused on the immediate future. Any hope for CID is waaaaay down the road.

Also, Marine CID isn't quite like you think it is. Neither is NCIS if assigned there. TV NCIS is almost all make believe.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

1: The Marine writing that is an Active Duty CID...so he is 'in the know'. You have to be active duty to lateral move to CID, as well as at LEAST a Cpl. (And Sergeants are more preferred). I realize the website may not state that, but they are looking for EXPERIENCED Marines and not rookies.

2: I will also say from personal experience that unless you come from an MP background, unless CID is HURTING badly, your chances of getting selected are extremely slim. As in, almost nil.

3: As Zulu said.....it ain't what you think it is. Trust us.

[Covey_Rider]

Wow, look at that. A properly posted question and two immediate responses from experienced Marines to fully answer the question. Amazing.

[EastofWest18]

Thank you for your answers.

[rockyro]

EastofWest18,

Well aside from what Zulu 36 (who seems to have some strange personal issues in regards to ncis judging from his posts) and Sgt Leprechaun said, I can give you an opinion as someone that wasn’t last serving in Marine Corps more than a decade ago.


The possibility of you doing reserve time and then activating after a couple years to immediately go CID is very low. Although theoretically possible, keep in mind you will be going up against active duty Marines with a wide range of qualifications and experience in the active Marine Corps, vice your limited reserve service.

I’d need some background on you and your future goals to give you a better determination, but, as with all jobs in the Marine Corps that have a vetting process, you need to strongly articulate why they should take you over the other applicants. The job will require you to conduct non-felony (and felony cases not assumed by ncis) investigations of individuals associated with the Marine Corps, which can heavily affect careers and whether or not someone gets locked up. You need to think about what unique experiences/abilities you can bring to the table that will make them choose you over all the others to shoulder that responsibility. Keep in mind, high performance/pft scores/motivation/desire to serve is a given, and something you can expect all the other applicants you will be going against to have as well.
gl

[Sgt Leprechaun]

How about filling out a profile?

Grain of salt indeed, since nobody here knows YOU from 'adam'.

[rockyro]

How about filling out a profile?

Grain of salt indeed, since nobody here knows YOU from 'adam'.


Right, because putting my personal information on the internet is a good idea (are you aware your last name is in your profile picture?). Besides, there doesn’t seem to be any vetting process to speak of, so it doesn’t matter anyway.

I’m just someone that claims he knows what he’s talking about, just like you are; only difference between us is you filled out a profile and were hopefully honest about it. I would question YOUR ability to answer his question though, since your history makes me question your knowledge on the topic.

What does a grunt/intelligence specialist/radio operator know about CID? What, did you get fap’d out at the gate for a couple months and make friends with the military police?

Also, why did you say Zulu 36 is “active CID,” and “in the know?” Looking at his PROFILE I don’t see anything that indicates that.
gl

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Times up.

Extracted.

Thread locked due to jackassery.