The DUKE
07-24-10, 11:10 PM
I once got slapped around pretty good on one of these post for voicing my opinion to the fact that just because the media and a bunch of high ranking people spout off about some of the things certain people are concerned with that they were "CONSPIRACY KOOKS".
I fired back in true Marine corp fashion that just becasue it sounds bizzarre dosent necessarily make it so. I also added a tidbit of wisdom that at the time didnt go over to well with my brothers in arms.
I asked a simple quesiton of them for which I got a lot of crap back in the form of insults and some semi degrading comments about my intelligence and just where exactly was I born (im not sure if the last one was a reference to my nationality or planet).
But I would ask again "If it's TRUE, is it STILL a conspiracy?"
I submit the following examples of "FACT" to show those who held me in such contempt for even thinking our government could try to pull something as evil as 9-11 off on the unsupecting citizens of this nation.
Im not saying they did Im simply showing you proof of the type of things that go on everyday without our ever knowing of it happening and then its history, with or wihtout our approval.:flag:
In 1995 Gen. Hussein Kamel (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1845) told U.N. inspectors and the CIA that Iraq had destroyed its entire stockpile of chemical and biological weapons and banned missiles (weapons, incidentally, sold to Hussein by the U.S. and European countries (http://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo0919.html)). Even one of then Secretary of State Colin Powell’s analysts, Greg Thielmann (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/14/60II/main577975.shtml), said key evidence cited by the administration was misrepresented to the public.
Everyone knew Saddam did not have WMDs and that includes the corporate media. Tony Blair said Iraq did not have WMDs. Majority Whip at the time, Richard J. Durbin (http://web.archive.org/web/20070429045319/http://washtimes.com/national/20070427-124842-1706r.htm), an Illinois Democrat, who was on the Senate intelligence committee, knew Saddam did not have weapons of mass destruction.
Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neil (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-01-11-oneill-iraq_x.htm), who was a member of the National Security Council, said he saw absolutely nothing he would have characterized as evidence of weapons of mass destruction. He also said the neocons planned to invade Iraq well before the attack of September 11, 2001.
In 2008, former White House press secretary Scott McClellan (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004442374_scott28.html) published a memoir. In his book McClellan said that the Iraq invasion and occupation was sold to the American people with a “political propaganda campaign” led by Bush and aimed at “manipulating sources of public opinion” and “downplaying the major reason for going to war.”
“All wars are based on propaganda. John Kennedy launched the beginning of our war in Vietnam by talking about the domino theory and embracing the Green Berets. Lyndon Johnson kept it up and so did Richard Nixon. World War II–a lot of that was driven by propaganda, and suppressing things that people should have known at the time. So people should not be surprised by that,” he told Brain Williams. “In this business we often bump up against what I call the opaque world. The White House has an unbelievable ability to control the flow of information at any time but especially at a time when they are planning to go to war.”
Ill let you all decide if theyre capable of doing things that we should be ashamed of or not, :iwo:so how many Marines died over there to date?:thumbdown
I fired back in true Marine corp fashion that just becasue it sounds bizzarre dosent necessarily make it so. I also added a tidbit of wisdom that at the time didnt go over to well with my brothers in arms.
I asked a simple quesiton of them for which I got a lot of crap back in the form of insults and some semi degrading comments about my intelligence and just where exactly was I born (im not sure if the last one was a reference to my nationality or planet).
But I would ask again "If it's TRUE, is it STILL a conspiracy?"
I submit the following examples of "FACT" to show those who held me in such contempt for even thinking our government could try to pull something as evil as 9-11 off on the unsupecting citizens of this nation.
Im not saying they did Im simply showing you proof of the type of things that go on everyday without our ever knowing of it happening and then its history, with or wihtout our approval.:flag:
In 1995 Gen. Hussein Kamel (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1845) told U.N. inspectors and the CIA that Iraq had destroyed its entire stockpile of chemical and biological weapons and banned missiles (weapons, incidentally, sold to Hussein by the U.S. and European countries (http://www.counterpunch.org/nimmo0919.html)). Even one of then Secretary of State Colin Powell’s analysts, Greg Thielmann (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/14/60II/main577975.shtml), said key evidence cited by the administration was misrepresented to the public.
Everyone knew Saddam did not have WMDs and that includes the corporate media. Tony Blair said Iraq did not have WMDs. Majority Whip at the time, Richard J. Durbin (http://web.archive.org/web/20070429045319/http://washtimes.com/national/20070427-124842-1706r.htm), an Illinois Democrat, who was on the Senate intelligence committee, knew Saddam did not have weapons of mass destruction.
Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neil (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2004-01-11-oneill-iraq_x.htm), who was a member of the National Security Council, said he saw absolutely nothing he would have characterized as evidence of weapons of mass destruction. He also said the neocons planned to invade Iraq well before the attack of September 11, 2001.
In 2008, former White House press secretary Scott McClellan (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2004442374_scott28.html) published a memoir. In his book McClellan said that the Iraq invasion and occupation was sold to the American people with a “political propaganda campaign” led by Bush and aimed at “manipulating sources of public opinion” and “downplaying the major reason for going to war.”
“All wars are based on propaganda. John Kennedy launched the beginning of our war in Vietnam by talking about the domino theory and embracing the Green Berets. Lyndon Johnson kept it up and so did Richard Nixon. World War II–a lot of that was driven by propaganda, and suppressing things that people should have known at the time. So people should not be surprised by that,” he told Brain Williams. “In this business we often bump up against what I call the opaque world. The White House has an unbelievable ability to control the flow of information at any time but especially at a time when they are planning to go to war.”
Ill let you all decide if theyre capable of doing things that we should be ashamed of or not, :iwo:so how many Marines died over there to date?:thumbdown