On MccCristyal

[pauldoc]

I think you can't say anything about the big boss in the white house or u loose your job. They hated Gen. Patrius now ABC, CNN and others say he is the best man in the world,
any comments from the marines today

[Lynn2]

He was totally and completely unprofessional. As a serving senior US military officer he disgraced the uniform he wears. <br />
<br />
He acted more like a pleb at the USMA than a ranking general. <br />
<br />
And this...

[USNAviator]

Who next down the road Gen. James Mattoon Scott?

I think he resigned after that ECOMCON fiasco!! Nice reference BTW :thumbup:

[hussaf]

Next down the road....you mean for AF? Patreaus has taken over the job. As far as McChrytal....he obviously fired himself. No one becomes a general and doesn't know how to talk to media. Honestly its a bad sign when the AF commander is so disenchanted with things he burns himself on Rolling Stone.

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: The Taliban are very happy He got Chit canned, McCrystal knew exactaly what He was doing remember last year when He asked for more Boots on the Deck went too visit Obama and Obama waits 6 months to respond...The General got sick and tired of letting our Boys fight with one Arm tied behind them.Now Gates needs to Go and all the other Civilian bums running the show...Gen.Peter Pace @ Gen.McCrystal will make great drinking buddies.:beer: :iwo:

[Muztang11]

There has to be more to this story than we are hearing,No way would he have expressed himself that way if he knew it was on record,Unless he wanted to get fired(along with his entire staff that was...

[pauldoc]

Here is my feeling Gen. McChrystal should have been fired also a 4 star should know that anything u say will be on the news these days.
One thing it did was to wake up our man in the WH to the fact that his policy is not the way to fight a war. I don't think he knows what is going on over there I hear the moral of the troop are poor but they still want to fight and to win. When was the last time the com and chief said he wants to win. Change the rule of engagement and turn them loose.

My feeling is if your going to have a war then shot the bad guys and let our men go after them and do them in. We had almost the same in VN and that worked out so well.

[Lynn2]

There has to be more to this story than we are hearing,No way would he have expressed himself that way if he knew it was on record,Unless he wanted to get fired(along with his entire staff that was also in on the "interview")

You know this was my first thought. That is that he thought he was off the record. But Rolling Stone said it was very clear that he was on. No mistake with this.

Besides if he was going to quit in protest then he could have quit in protest.

If he was going to quit because the job got to much he could pull a Phil Jackson and say his health was not up to snuff.

This is not the way anyone wants to go out or to be remembered----not that way.

Maybe he just pulled what I call a Lynn2.

I have people in the family that do "stuff". Because of that "stuff" I try to watch at least at some level what I say on the internet.

But you get on a roll, you get involved in the discussions, you get to love the sound of your own posts, and before you know it you look back the next day and say self WTF was I thinking in going on like I did?

I think he had a mindfock. This was just to sloppy and inane to be otherwise IMO.

But----and I am no student of the General----I have been told that he has had a history of pushing the edge for a long long time. Maybe this side of him if true will come out as he is talked about more in the coming days.

Sad really to end a career like this.

[Lynn2]

"I think he resigned after that ECOMCON fiasco!!"

Do not believe everything you read in the papers.

I got a call today from my good friend Col Jiggs Casey and he tells me there is a lot more to this story than what was in the papers or given as a reason by the PR Flacks.

No man like that would quit over some ECOMCON

[USNAviator]

"I think he resigned after that ECOMCON fiasco!!"

Do not believe everything you read in the papers.

I got a call today from my good friend Col Jiggs Casey and he tells me there is a lot more to this story than what was in the papers or given as a reason by the PR Flacks.

No man like that would quit over some ECOMCON

I knew Jiggs when I was stationed at the Pentagon. One damn fine Marine!! Perhaps there is more to the ECOMCON story then the press gave us.

I guess it's too late to get a bet down on the Preakness. Maybe next year

[Danny C Smith]

I probably should not even post this.

We will never know the real story.
I learned that in the Corps.
The government is, and has been fvcked up for
longer than any of us have lived.
Learned that from my Grand Pop.
The media is totaly stupid.
Hell, thats just common sense.
You want to know what really happened?
Keep wanting folks.
Never going to happen.
Maybe the good General, and I mean this with the
greatest respect, will write a book about his version
of this freaking stupitidy.
Hell, I think he did it on purpose.
Only so much one man can take.
Even a General Officer.
In the mean time the fearless leader can "Bite Me".

[Old Marine]

How the hell does a 4-Star sit down with of all people Rolling Stone and agree to an interview. Then open his pie hole and diss the WH and anyone who works there. He does not have to like his Commander In Chief, but needs to shut his pie hole.

[USNAviator]

I probably should not even post this.

We will never know the real story.
I learned that in the Corps.
The government is, and has been fvcked up for
longer than any of us have lived.
Learned that from my Grand Pop.
The media is totaly stupid.
Hell, thats just common sense.
You want to know what really happened?
Keep wanting folks.
Never going to happen.
Maybe the good General, and I mean this with the
greatest respect, will write a book about his version
of this freaking stupitidy.
Hell, I think he did it on purpose.
Only so much one man can take.
Even a General Officer.
In the mean time the fearless leader can "Bite Me".


Smitty you can post anything you want, say anything you want. That's why we live here, that's why you wore the uniform :thumbup:

Dan

[Carpshooter]

How the hell does a 4-Star sit down with of all people Rolling Stone and agree to an interview. Then open his pie hole and diss the WH and anyone who works there. He does not have to like his Commander In Chief, but needs to shut his pie hole.

I was hoping he'd do this in Playboy magazine ,that way alot of the troops could read what he said , if they could find the time from all those nice photos that one finds there ! :D

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: When asked by the managing editor of Rollingstone Mag,If He wanted to go thru with publishing his statements He said Yes...So now let Obama know how it feels to have Blood on His hands because of His stupidity as the Commander In Chief.Chit Bush went thru Hell wonder how much sleep Obama is losing over the Deaths of our Sons and Daughters? Obama Talks the Talk now He has too Walk the Walk :confused: :iwo:

[awbrown1462]

like Patton he could not keep his mouth shut

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: Like Truman said"The Buck Stops Here",Oh by the way Patton was Killed,you surely must be thinking of Gen.Douglas MacArthur :confused: :iwo:

[Komenko]

Like Truman said"The Buck Stops Here",Oh by the way Patton was Killed,you surely must be thinking of Gen.Douglas MacArthur

Damn hunting trips :(

Gen. Patton died of a pulmonary embolism due to the car accident.

[hussaf]

To clarify, I guess it should be noted that most of those statements were made by his staff and not himself....but I digress.

[USNAviator]

General McChrystal has served our country for 34 years. I don't know if he'll see 35. I can't comment on the Rolling Stone article nor am I in a position to comment on his hubris. I guess once you...

[hussaf]

1310, that sounds about right for field grade officers. I am sure that type of behavior isn't uncommon.

[USNAviator]

1310, that sounds about right for field grade officers. I am sure that type of behavior isn't uncommon.

Maybe you're referring to Flag Rank officers? I was a Field Grade and I would not have allowed that to happen, just saying. But then I reported to Flag Rank! :thumbup:;):thumbup:

Dan

[AkOrN]

Do you think Gen. Patrius will do a better job?

[micarr57]

couldn't agree more with your post. he fired the aide who set up the interview yea it was his fault ;)

[hussaf]

Oops, yep Dan. But apparently you were a pilot, and they seem to have common sense and are quite practical. Some of the best officers that were leaders, that I've had, have been former pilots (Cobra and the old jump jet).

I often work for the CE and some of the stuff I've seen...

[hussaf]

...Jump jet = the Harrier, the name just hit me.

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: I know what he died of...My Father served in his unit S/F :beer: :iwo:

[EGA1957]

Do you think Gen. Patrius will do a better job?
How does one quantify "better?"

If the current strategy of allowing Afghan farmers to continue to harvest their opium crops (and even under the watchful eye of Amercan troops) so that the world's trade in heroin can remain unabated and therefore continue to be probably the major funding source for the Taiban and Al Queda, then I have to think he'll be maintaining and following a flawed policy.

WWII probably is easiest for most of us to recall reading about how our parents and grandparents followed a strategy of "destroy the means of production and the machinery of war will grind to a rapid halt" and applied that strategy to, among other military industries, ballbearing factories and the Ploesti oil fields.

My concern is, if the insurgents are being funded by some nation(s), what efforts are being made to shut off those funds and would the money trail be that difficult to track?

If there is no clear understanding of where ANY funding might be coming from, I can't help but think that Afghan's opium output might be suspect (simply estimating current production to world-wide PHARMACEUTICAL consumption would seem to help determine how much production is going into illegal trade).

Is it possible that the Afghan poppy fields are as vital to the terrorist community as a "war industry" as oil and ballbearing production was to the Axis in WWII. If so why would that production be exempt from consideration as a military target?

(But, answering my own question) I just am baffled why that vital "asset" is kept on the table on the order Monte Casino was in WWII. (I also find it ironic that it was the USAID efforts that installed the irrigation ditches to water the poppy plants.)

Obviously, I'm not a "strategist," but I do have an enormous curiosity as to why, if I may be wrong in my beliefs, then what in my thought process is currently leading me in the wrong direction. I ask this as I have raised the same concerns elsewhere and not only did I get NO response, I didn't even get any feedback even suggesting I was out to lunch on that notion.

[hussaf]

Hmm...I think there are ways to mitigate Talib influence in AF, but I don't think anyone in the administration is willing to listen to new and complicated ideas and just want to throw bodies on the problem until they hit the pullout date.

Issues:
Opium dependency. The Taliban used to be our biggest ally in fighting opium in AF, but now that we've been eating their lunch for a few years they rely on it for funding....as does the government, and other governments that support the AF government. Typical drug ring, no one wants to knock over that ant hill. Hell pomegranates will make Afghanis more money than opium (AF opium farmers get crap for their crop)...we just have to give them better tech to plant, harvest, and most importantly transport and store the crop.

Pakistan: They are a problem that needs to be dealt with but no one is willing to do it, and probably don't know how.

[EGA1957]

Hmm...I think there are ways to mitigate Talib influence in AF, but I don't think anyone in the administration is willing to listen to new and complicated ideas and just want to throw bodies on the problem until they hit the pullout date.
... .
Somewhere I've read that top-level political/military discussion in the previous Administration was held and then categorically rejected. So the idea of totally eliminating opium production is not a "new" idea.

But it'd be interesting to know why it was dismissed AND then not brought up (if such is the case) for Obama's consideration. Your position (that I've underlined) puts a "dark" light on both previous and current policy coming from the highest levels.

[USNAviator]

Oops, yep Dan. But apparently you were a pilot, and they seem to have common sense and are quite practical. Some of the best officers that were leaders, that I've had, have been former pilots (Cobra and the old jump jet).

I often work for the CE and some of the stuff I've seen...


No problem!! Just yanking your chain!! BTW thanks for the "Dan"!!

Oh I'm sure some of the stuff you've seen!!!!

Dan

[hussaf]

@MOS1310, hope I didn't offend with the "Dan." You "sign" your posts with it, so I took that as your preferred title. SF.

@EGA, I didn't mean in insinuate no one in the WH has considered taking out the opium trade or are dependent upon it. Hopefully my statement about the US allying with the Taliban to eradicate opium from AF post-1979 was an indicator of that. What I meant was that, because of all the dependencies on this opium source in AF, it makes the prospect of eliminating it a very complex issue involving many countries and organizations that influence each other (and eventually us).

[USNAviator]

"@MOS1310, hope I didn't offend with the "Dan." You "sign" your posts with it, so I took that as your preferred title. SF."


No offense taken, please call me Dan :thumbup:

[EGA1957]

... .

@EGA, I didn't mean in insinuate no one in the WH has considered taking out the opium trade or are dependent upon it. Hopefully my statement about the US allying with the Taliban to eradicate opium from AF post-1979 was an indicator of that. What I meant was that, because of all the dependencies on this opium source in AF, it makes the prospect of eliminating it a very complex issue involving many countries and organizations that influence each other (and eventually us).
That makes me still wonder why, if the AF heroin industry is so intertwined INTERNATIONALLY, that the US military strategy would still allow the very likely source of funding that leads DIRECTLY to US and ISAF troops injuries and deaths to be a primary reason NOT to disengage and then to continue to pursue a policy which is so embraced by POTUS and those who advise him.

Maybe someone out there can help a poor lowly enlisted grunt like me understand those "complexities" involved in the Bigger Picture.

[hussaf]

Ahmed Rashid, Robert Baer, and Steve Coll's works could shed some light...or at least give you some information you can sanitize with your own personal experiences and decide for yourself.

[Lynn2]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/24/mcchrystal-banned-fox-new_n_623884.html

Now I certainly do not see Obama as the lib so many of you do but then I never saw the General this way either:

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General Stanley McChrystal banned Fox News from his headquarters, according to The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder (http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/10/06/the-night-beat-obama-borrows-the-military-back/58635).
Ambinder wrote Wednesday (via Michael Calderone (http://twitter.com/mlcalderone/status/16924665246)) that McChrystal is a liberal, and added in the detail about Fox News to flesh out the point:
Even more about McChrystal: now it can be told. The story about him voting for Obama is not contrived. He is a political liberal. He is a social liberal. He banned Fox News from the television sets in his headquarters. Yes, really. This puts to rest another false rumor: that McChrystal deliberately precipitated his firing because he wants to run for President.

(sorry for the screwed up format)

[vipere6]

I agree with you Jack lets see Obama Walk ther Walk. I see alot of what happen during the Vietnam war happening now. Our men and women being used as a chess game.

[pauldoc]

I think that he will if the libs let him do his job just a year ago they thought he should be tried for treason according to MOVE On dot Org

[m14ed]

I agree with you Jack lets see Obama Walk ther Walk. I see alot of what happen during the Vietnam war happening now. Our men and women being used as a chess game.

CIC , Is telling me the warm flow i feel
running down my back is warm summer rain.
I feel he has no honor,much less an understanding of the word integrity.

BOHICA !!!

[Marine84]

I haven't read the article yet but, my 2 cents....................the General (with all due respect) was a complete dumba$$ for doing it. They can go back and forth between him and RS about whether the journalist printed something that was said off record until the cows come home .....................bottom line, it shouldn't have been a topic for discussion PERIOD. I'm sure the General is sharp enough to know when a journalist is trying to steer him in the direction of a certain conversation, he should have been sharper and steered the journalist somewhere else.

I bet he's thinking now "hmmmmm, maybe I should not have done that". Yeah, he can retire but, he's always going to be known as the General that opened his mouth. If he had any concern for the welfare of his troops, HE would have used them stars to make $h!t happen and to hell with what Washington had to say about it. Better to go out THAT way, IMO.

[Old Marine]

Could it be that the General failed his driving test because he couldn't steer?

[EGA1957]

WHAT IF: <br />
1)in your first point, one would have to assume he was not very intelligent thruout most of his career, I would think, if, without him having gone PTSD, and he just blew it doesn't sound...

[Komenko]

:evilgrin: I know what he died of...My Father served in his unit S/F :beer: :iwo:

I didn't. Had to look it up and see how it happened. I pass his Museum every time I drive to my mother's house in Arizona. Stopped by once and read the history of the surrounding area of the museum was used for training during WWII for combat in North Africa.

[FistFu68]

:iwo:Speaking of Generals why would any Man knowing that His actions or lack there of Put His Career on the Line as in the case of U.S.MARINE..General Peter Pace the 1st.Marine ever too head the Joint Chiefs of Staff...was it because He Put His beloved Marine Corps and His Men and Women above Himself...He also knew He'd be Chit canned,I cannot Judge any of these Men thats up to GOD,as surely as My lowlife azz will be Judged...I live in a Glass house I try not to cast Stones...But as sure as these two Men will be Judged and go down in History so shall the Sec.of Defense and all the People in the White House theres alot more to this story that we will ever know...But in the END everyone of Us will have to come clean...GodBless America Lord knows We need it!!!S/F :iwo:

[Lynn2]

Interesting. From a few articles I have seen there seems to be much joy with the troops as far as this change of Generals.

I fear its a moot point though.

Mc, GenP, me. I doubt it makes a fig of a difference as far as the long term outcome.

[Carpshooter]

The military is ran too socialist ,we need to keep those in charge accountable to what they claim they can do ,as a glass house is a home for foolish souls and this guy had enough time to accomplish...

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: You should have worked for United States Steel for 25 years after being blown in half...We had alot of Generals as Supervisors Who also were great at being My friend :D that's when they weren't pulling "Duty on the Perimeter" in tha Union Lounge...that's a real Pension plan...If I want a Friend I just look in tha Mirror,Oh by tha' way my Son Jesse is in Afghanistan on His 3rd Tour now that's My best FRIEND!!! S/F That :iwo:

[vmfn513]

I have been waiting for comments on the Truman-Mac set to.
1949 I was in Quantico andwa were unable to get fuel for our vehicles because of budget cuts as Truman took on implementing his plans the Marine Corps. But the Guardian Angel of the Corps was on duty and The Korean War erupted & Truman received the request from 'Big Mac' SEND THE MARINES. Well!
The rest is history......don't cross your Boss.
MacArthur came home to a Heros Welcome and a Truman firing (Thank You).

Such is life!!!!!!!!!!

[USMCmailman]

Pretty simple really. The good General got SICK of working for a LOSER and a Government that does not back their Military! Sometimes, 'Enough is Enough"! Sorry about all you Gung Ho types, but this Commander-in Thief, is NOT anyone I would follow. I believe in questioning Authority when it can get you killed! I did it in Nam, got busted back to Private. I also made E4 again before I got out. All in less than two years. The General sounds like someone I would listen to!

[FistFu68]

:usmc: Right Frigging on Cpl.Mailman :thumbup: :iwo:

[gkmoz]

Pretty simple really. The good General got SICK of working for a LOSER and a Government that does not back their Military! Sometimes, 'Enough is Enough"! Sorry about all you Gung Ho types, but this Commander-in Thief, is NOT anyone I would follow. I believe in questioning Authority when it can get you killed! I did it in Nam, got busted back to Private. I also made E4 again before I got out. All in less than two years. The General sounds like someone I would listen to!
AGREE !! He is no commander in chief. Its bad enough to have to listen to these "talking heads" tell us how brilliant this move was to praise this "community Organizer" This guy is a total mistake from the word Go ! JMO

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: F-EN-A great Post Chit always runs down Hill from"THE WHITE HOUSE" :thumbup: :iwo:

[EGA1957]

Now with Gen’l Petraeus in place and announcing, in a meeting with Allied forces in Brussels today, that "the change of command would NOT signal a change in strategy," it'll be interesting to see how long his "tenure" will be.

His statement that "Any commander (wonder if this term, "commander," is so all-encompassing so as to include the CIC?) has a moral imperative (my emphasis) to bring ALL (mind you, his emphasis here) force that is available to bear, when our troopers ...are in a tough position."

Keep in mind what happened when Gen’l McCrystal asked for an increase in the number of troops and then waited the 3 months for the CIC to "decide" what to do. Was Obomba's "moral imperative" to bring all force (deemed necessary) up and running then?

It may be sooner than we expect, that this 4-star may be on the verge of being called in for a "visit" with his "boss." (I'm still waiting to see who the replacement for Gen’l Petraeus will be as that will give us a clue as to whom Obomba will be placing in the batter's circle if, indeed, Gen’l Petraeus strikes out.)

[MOUNTAINWILLIAM]

This does not justify the Generals action, looks like he picked the wrong time to have a brain fart: MW



If you don't read any of this, at least scroll to the bottom and read what is says....

General McChrystal Biography:

Commander, International Security Assistance Force/Commander, United States Forces Afghanistan

United States Army
(SOURCE OF COMMISSIONED SERVICE: USMA EDUCATIONAL DEGREES)

United States Military Academy - BS - No Major
United States Naval War College - MA - National Security and Strategic Studies Salve Regina University - MS - International Relations

MILITARY SCHOOLS ATTENDED:
Infantry Officer Basic and Advanced Courses
United States Naval Command and Staff College
Senior Service College Fellowship Harvard University

FOREIGN LANGUAGES:
Spanish

PROMOTIONS DATE OF APPOINTMENT:
2LT 2 Jun 76
1LT 2 Jun 78
CPT 1 Aug 80
MAJ 1 Jul 87
LTC 1 Sep 92
COL 1 Sep 96
BG 1 Jan 01
MG 1 May 04
LTG 16 Feb 06
GEN 11 Jun 09

FROM/ TO ASSIGNMENT:
Nov 76 Feb 78 Weapons Platoon Leader, C Company, 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82d Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Feb 78 Jul 78 Rifle Platoon Leader, C Company, 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82d Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Jul 78 Nov 78 Executive Officer, C Company, 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82d Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Nov 78 Apr 79 Student, Special Forces Officer Course, Special Forces School , Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Apr 79 Jun 80 Commander, Detachment A, A Company, 1st Battalion, 7th Special Forces Group (Airborne), Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Jun 80 Feb 81 Student, Infantry Officer Advanced Course, United States Army Infantry School, Fort Benning, Georgia
Feb 81 Mar 82 S2/S3 (Intelligence/Operations), United Nations Command Support Group Joint Security Area, Korea
Mar 82 Nov 82 Training Officer, Directorate of Plans and Training, A Company, Headquarters Command, Fort Stewart, Georgia
Nov 82 Sep 84 Commander, A Company, 3d Battalion, 19th Infantry, 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized), Fort Stewart, Georgia
Sep 84 Sep 85 S3 (Operations), 3d Battalion, 19th Infantry, 24th Infantry Division (Mechanized), Fort Stewart, Georgia
Sep 85 Jan 86 Liaison Officer, 3d Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Georgia
Jan 86 May 87 Commander, A Company, 3d Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Georgia
May 87 Apr 88 Liaison Officer, 3d Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Georgia
Apr 88 Jun 89 S3 (Operations), 3d Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Georgia
Jun 89 Jun 90 Student, Command and Staff Course, United States Naval War College, Newport, Rhode Island
Jun 90 Apr 93 Army Special Operations Action Officer, J3, Joint Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, North Carolina and OPERATIONS DESERT SHIELD/STORM, Saudi Arabia
Apr 93 Nov 94 Commander, 2d Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 82d Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Nov 94 Jun 96 Commander, 2d Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Lewis, Washington
Jun 96 Jun 97 Senior Service College Fellowship, John F. Kennedy School of Government, Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Jun 97 Aug 99 Commander, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Georgia
Aug 99 Jun 00 Military Fellow, Council on Foreign Relations, New York, New York
Jun 00 Jun 01 Assistant Division Commander (Operations), 82d Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, North Carolina to include duty as Commander, Combined Joint Task Force Kuwait, Camp Doha, Kuwait
Jun 01 Jul 02 Chief of Staff, XVIII Airborne Corps and Fort Bragg, Fort Bragg, North Carolina to include duty as Chief of Staff, Combined Joint Task Force180, OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM, Afghanistan
Jul 02 Sep 03 Vice Director for Operations, J3, The Joint Staff, Washington, DC
Sep 03 Feb 06 Commanding General, Joint Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Feb 06 Jun 08 Commander, Joint Special Operations Command/Commander, Joint Special Operations Command Forward, United States Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, North Carolina
Aug 08 Jun 09 Director, The Joint Staff, Washington, DC
Jun 09 Present Commander, International Security Assistance Force/Commander, United States Forces Afghanistan, OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM, Afghanistan

SUMMARY OF JOINT ASSIGNMENTS:
S2/S3 (Intelligence/Operations), United Nations Command Support Group Joint Security Area, Korea (Feb 81-Mar 82, Captain)
Army Special Operations Action Officer, J3, Joint Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, North Carolina and OPERATIONS DESERT SHIELD/STORM, Saudi Arabia Jun 90-Apr 93 Major/Lieutenant Colonel)
Chief of Staff, XVIII Airborne Corps and Fort Bragg, Fort Bragg, North Carolina to include duty as Chief of Staff, Combined Joint Task Force180, OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM, Afghanistan (Jun 01-Jul 02, Brigadier General)
Vice Director for Operations, J3, The Joint Staff, Washington, DC (Jul 02-Sep 03, Brigadier General)
Commanding General, Joint Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, North Carolina (Sep 03-Feb 06, Brigadier General/Major General)
Commander, Joint Special Operations Command/Commander, Joint Special Operations Command Forward, United States Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, North Carolina (Feb 06-Jun 08, Major General/Lieutenant General) Director, The Joint Staff, Washington, DC (Aug 08-Jun 09, Lieutenant General)
Commander, International Security Assistance Force/Commander, United States Forces Afghanistan, OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM, Afghanistan (Jun 09-Present, General)

SUMMARY OF OPERATIONS ASSIGNMENTS DATE GRADE
Army Special Operations Action Officer, J3, Joint Special Operations Command, OPERATIONS DESERT SHIELD/STORM, Saudi Arabia (Jun 90-Mar 91, Major)
Commander, Combined Joint Task Force Kuwait, Camp Doha, Kuwait (Apr 01-Jun 01, Brigadier General)
Chief of Staff, Combined Joint Task Force180, OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM, Afghanistan (May 02-Jul 02, Brigadier General)
Commander, International Security Assistance Force/Commander, United States Forces Afghanistan, OPERATION ENDURING FREEDOM, Afghanistan (Jun 09- Present, General)

US DECORATIONS AND BADGES:
Defense Distinguished Service Medal
Defense Superior Service Medal (with Oak Leaf Cluster)
Legion of Merit (with 2 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Bronze Star Medal
Defense Meritorious Service Medal
Meritorious Service Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters)
Army Commendation Medal
Army Achievement Medal
Expert Infantryman Badge
Master Parachutist Badge
Ranger Tab
Special Forces Tab
Joint Chiefs of Staff Identification Badge
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OBAMA Biography:

Birthplace: Location remains questionable. Proof of United States Citizenship hasn't been provided.
Education: Columbia University, Harvard Law School. Records never produced, attendance remains questionable.
Military Career: None
Business Career: None
Political Career: Community organizer, Chicago, 1983-86; civil rights attorney, Chicago, 1991-96; University of Chicago, assistant lecturer, early 1990s-2004; State Senator, 1996-2005; U.S. Senator, 2005-2008; President 2008-.
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It looks like the wrong guy resigned...

-------------- GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS-----------





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[OLE SARG]

LOL --------- Great post and very true MountainWilliam!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[MOUNTAINWILLIAM]

First; Mac seemed to have a case of Foot in Mouth Disease when all of this happened. MW



Never Wait In Another Long Line Again!!
Best quote of 2010....

(Though I don't think it came from the General: MW)




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The General is a quick thinker..

President Obama was having that one, lone brief conversation this year with General McChrystal about Afghanistan.

Things were obviously not going the way the General had hoped.

Obama could sense this, and told him, "I bet when I die, you'll pee on my grave."

To which General McChrystal answers, "No sir, I've always said that when I get out of the Army, I'll never again wait in another long line."



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