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ggyoung
06-17-10, 06:13 PM
Ronny Lee Gardner is to go in front of the FIRRING SQUAD tomorrow at the Utah State Prison at Point Of The Mountain Prison. So Fare he has milked over 20 million dollars out of the State of Utah. This is BS for the good people of Utah:thumbup::thumbdown:thumbup:

WXSgt
06-17-10, 06:21 PM
Did you see how they do it? they blind fold him and tie him to a chair with a target pinned to his chest. no kidding lol. or at least thats how CNN explained it

sparkie
06-17-10, 09:04 PM
What is it? 6 with rifles, 5 with blanks?

Hope they aim,,,,,, 1 thru the heart would be nice.

USNAviator
06-17-10, 09:11 PM
Ronny Lee Gardner is to go in front of the FIRRING SQUAD tomorrow at the Utah State Prison at Point Of The Mountain Prison. So Fare he has milked over 20 million dollars out of the State of Utah. This is BS for the good people of Utah:thumbup::thumbdown:thumbup:

Was firing squad his choice?

sparkie
06-17-10, 09:12 PM
Was firing squad his choice?
Yes,,,,,,,,,,

USNAviator
06-17-10, 09:14 PM
Yes,,,,,,,,,,

Thanks, I remember Gary Gilmore had a choice as well but I don't remember what he chose

sparkie
06-17-10, 09:19 PM
Thanks, I remember Gary Gilmore had a choice as well but I don't remember what he chose
i heard his was approaching the Supreme Court,,,,,,Too late?? I doneknow......

Phantom Blooper
06-17-10, 09:38 PM
Ronnie Lee Gardner: Is Utah firing squad a more humane execution?
Daniel B. Wood – 2 hrs 17 mins ago


Ronnie Lee Gardner is scheduled to be executed at 12:05 a.m. Friday in the Utah State Prison, spotlighting a long list of sensitive issues about the death penalty, ranging from cost to crime deterrence to the relative humaneness of specific methods, such as firing squad.

Mr. Gardner, convicted of two murders – one during a courthouse escape attempt in 1985 – had been selected to die by lethal injection. But in an April court hearing he said, “I would like the firing squad, please.”

There is some evidence that firing squad is less "barbaric" than lethal injection, says John Holdridge, director of the Capital Punishment Project of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which campaigns against the death penalty.

A Utah inmate who in 1938 agreed to be shot to death while hooked up to an electrocardiogram showed complete heart death within one minute of the firing squad's shots. By contrast, research shows that a lethal injection – if done properly – takes about nine minutes to kill an inmate.

Support for death penalty droppingPolls show public support of the death penalty has been dropping steadily since the 1990s, partly because of the number of convictions shown to be wrong by The Innocence Project, a national litigation and public policy organization dedicated to exonerating wrongfully convicted people through DNA testing.

Mr. Holdridge says the number of proven, wrongful executions has now reached 138. And Cleveland-based criminal defense attorney Elizabeth Kelley says that 250 exonerations of death-row defendants in recent years, coupled with medical procedural TV shows such as CBS’s “CSI: Crime Scene Investigation,” have made the public more sophisticated about the fallibility of scientific evidence.

Holdridge says the Gardner execution by firing squad will be more dramatic and argues that it will raise more public opposition to the death penalty itself than would a lethal injection, which makes the death appear more humane and clinical.

“The Gardner execution really brings to the spotlight what we are doing – exterminating a human life in a deliberate, premeditated fashion,” Holdridge says. He notes that one of the five rifles is loaded with a blank round so that each shooter is uncertain about whether or not he fired a fatal shot.

But is it also a deterrent? Dr. Allison Cotton, associate professor of criminology at the Metropolitan State College of Denver, says shooting a convict sends a mixed message.

“Shooting a person because he shot a person to death – to deter others from shooting people – is faulty reasoning,” says Cotton.

Leaving aside the personal motivations for choosing to be shot, which some have suggested might be for political reasons, Cotton says the pain factor is unknowable. Lethal injection takes time, and is achieved in three stages, Cotton points out. The first injection makes the person unconscious. A second injection paralyzes muscles so they can’t move. And a third stops the heart.

“There is no way of knowing how much pain this causes because the person is unconscious,” she says.

Death-penalty costsAs to cost, Cotton says the average execution – whatever method – costs $2.3 million dollars, compared to $500,000 to $700,000 for life in prison without parole.

In 2006, the United States Supreme Court ruled that death-row inmates in the United States could challenge the constitutionality of states' lethal injection procedures through a federal civil rights lawsuit.

Since then, numerous death-row inmates have brought such challenges in the lower courts, claiming that lethal injection as currently practiced violates the ban on "cruel and unusual punishment" found in the Eighth Amendment to the US Constitution.

Lower courts evaluating these challenges have reached opposing conclusions.

For example, courts have found that lethal injection as practiced in California, Florida, and Tennessee is unconstitutional while other courts have found that lethal injection as practiced in Missouri, Arizona, and Oklahoma is constitutionally acceptable.

ggyoung
06-18-10, 10:55 AM
Thanks Blooper. What happens is next. The Sheriff of the county in which the murder happened asks for volunteers from the department. There is no shortage of volunteers. There names remain a secret. They are transported in a blackout van. The rifles that are used are new Winchester model 94s in 30-30 cal. There are 5 men used to do the good deed. 4 of the rifles are loaded with one round, the 5th rifle is-loaded with a wax bullet so it has the same recoil as the other 4. The 5 men are behind a wall with little slits to fire through. Then BANG and it is over. A job well done.

TJR1070
06-18-10, 11:22 AM
I was hoping they asked for volunteer's from the general public, I would even bring my own rifle and ammo.

ggyoung
06-18-10, 12:30 PM
I was hoping they asked for volunteer's from the general public, I would even bring my own rifle and ammo.

I was in line first.

Zulu 36
06-18-10, 01:42 PM
One less murdering scumbag blaming his rotten childhood as justification for his crime.

3043pog
06-18-10, 05:21 PM
I don't think we're gonna have alot of tears shed on this site!