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Are you FOR or AGAINST the AZ. law of Immagration....
indygti
05-21-10, 03:21 PM
For. There's no reason not to be for it.
I believe every state should have this law.....Should be a Fed. law.....:evilgrin:
Time to vote............:thumbup:
SEMPER FI ALL:iwo:....................Ed
linda1945
05-21-10, 06:35 PM
ditto on that Ed!
Semper Fi
Lin
TinDragon
05-21-10, 06:40 PM
At least they're doing something, regardless of whether it's the best approach or not. I'm for it.
GySgtRet
05-21-10, 06:43 PM
have the rights to govern themselves as they see fit.
Semper Fi
Gunny out
:usmc:
USNAviator
05-21-10, 06:45 PM
Are you FOR or AGAINST the AZ. law of Immagration....
FOR!!!
I own vacation home in AZ. Unless you live there you have no idea just how bad it is. While I do not begrudge Mexicans working in our country, I just want them to do it legally
Big Jim
05-21-10, 07:21 PM
I believe every state should have this law.....Should be a Fed. law.....:evilgrin:
Time to vote............:thumbup:
SEMPER FI ALL:iwo:....................Ed
DAMN RIGHT, ED...!!!!! The Mayor of Columbus, Ohio sent out the message yesterday that he opposes the Arizona law on illegal immigrant law reform and is NOT approving any trips to the state under Mayoral business. So many people disagree with it here...including me...I thought we were gonna have an ol' fashioned lynchin'...!!! That was so frikkin stupid of our worthless azz mayor. LOL.....!!!!!!!!
Danny C Smith
05-21-10, 07:47 PM
For it all the way.
My wife is hispanic, born here.
Her whole family was.
They have been in Texas since it was Mexico.
It has gotten so bad here in Southern Ok. that
we keep every weapon locked and loaded at all times.
Not sure what our Gov. is going to do about it though.
We'll see.
Smitty:usmc:
brian0351
05-22-10, 12:46 AM
I love how in our country...a state has to pass a law to enforce what is already law!
I've been to many countries in the world and most of them state that they can, and will ask for identification and proof that you entered the country legally. I don't see what the big deal is here!
Danny C Smith
05-22-10, 07:55 AM
I love how in our country...a state has to pass a law to enforce what is already law!
I've been to many countries in the world and most of them state that they can, and will ask for identification and proof that you entered the country legally. I don't see what the big deal is here!
Ditto:thumbup:
Smitty:usmc:
hbharrison
05-22-10, 09:01 AM
I love how in our country...a state has to pass a law to enforce what is already law!
I've been to many countries in the world and most of them state that they can, and will ask for identification and proof that you entered the country legally. I don't see what the big deal is here!
Ditto:thumbup: But we can all thank the ACLU and the Dems for this mess Arizona is just saying "no more cr*p":D
Wyoming
05-22-10, 09:13 AM
AGAINST
Beltayn (http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?u=71747), egbutler1 (http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?u=50670), yellowwing (http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/member.php?u=3114)
I think all the bleeding hearts should take a family into their homes and let them roam freely.
hbharrison
05-22-10, 09:23 AM
BigAl you may have sommething there we should wright letters to congress and see if they are willing to allow al of them to live with they for one week see if they like it, good idea:D
Oh, Nuts I forgot they more than likly have several of them working for them as domestic help cleaning up the mess they make around the house.
Osotogary
05-22-10, 09:46 AM
When a liqour store clerk askes the customer to see his or her I.D. to validate his or her drinking age is that unconstitutional? I don't remember seeing boycotts organized about that process...and from what I understand EVERYBODY will get asked to show some valid I.D. if the clerk even gets a hint of the customer being underage. What I am trying to say is that it seems that everyone, be they citizen, resident or visitor, has had to show his or her I.D. at some time in their life while living in these United States for any type of reason. What is the big deal? Do we not have to show our passports or visa when we visit other Countries? It does seem like a pain in the azz but the process has been deemed essential for security reasons by the host country. It is advisable, as a visitor to the host country, to go along with the dictates of the host country. It should be a no brainer.
On the other hand...it would be nice to have some good old common sense uniformity to Immigration Guidelines and Laws and that should also include a one datapool source available to all agencies for purposes of identification.
STUDENT VISA HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO - Well, Mr. SoandSo, our records show that you were granted a student visa, for the period of six months. How come you are still in this country?
CITIZEN DRIVER'S LICENSE SCENARIO - Well, Mr. WTF, I pulled you over because your right rear turn signal is not working. Did you know that your automobile license was suppose to be renewed last month? Why are you driving this vehicle?
Either way, proper and current identification, is always good to have on one's person...just in case.
hbharrison
05-22-10, 10:11 AM
For years local state, county and city police have been asking the Feds to make more open the complwtw database to use for identification but the powers to be have not done so and as of 9/11 it has not got any better they still will not let all into the loop. And I do agree with you common sense is not part of the picture.
ELLIOTT813
05-23-10, 08:19 PM
When I was in charge of security at a casino in New Orleans ID's were required to enter. Before Katrina, most of the fake IDs were from college kids. After Katrina, with the large influx of...
sparkie
05-23-10, 08:32 PM
Does it not mimic federal law??
USMCM38A1
05-23-10, 08:38 PM
We shouldn't have to cater to illegals after all they are illegal this was addressed in another thread how many of our distant realtives that came to this country the right way and passed their test would be whole heartedly ready to show off that they were an American citizen and proud of it.
ELLIOTT813
05-23-10, 08:43 PM
The problem is that we, the local and State police followed the law, however the feds did not. Thus it swelled jail populations and with no end or relief in sight, all local and state enforcement stopped.
I can see that this will be the fed response in Arizona, refuse to handle and backlog jails to overcrowding, thus halting enforcement.
Still Arizona has stood up and shouted to the feds, DO YOUR JOB
ARTYPIG
05-24-10, 01:59 AM
Well if you looked at Mexicos immigration law, it is more harsh than ours. It makes me wonder why they are b i t c h i n g about ours!
Big Jim
05-24-10, 05:35 AM
Mexico's government should be the one doing something about this...illegal immigration into the US, I mean. The US government should hold Mexico's government responsible. The only thing our border patrol should be doing is stopping them from crossing. These are Mexicans who don't want to be in their OWN country anymore....!!
hbharrison
05-24-10, 06:46 AM
Mexico's government should be the one doing something about this...illegal immigration into the US, I mean. The US government should hold Mexico's government responsible. The only thing our border patrol should be doing is stopping them from crossing. These are Mexicans who don't want to be in their OWN country anymore....!!
Mexico is not going to stop them from comeing in there is no money in it for them they have a government that does not care about them becuase the more that come in the more money is back by them. Our Pres is not going to do anything about it he let the Mexican Pres come to our country and trash it and he just stands by and says nothing. We the People need to show them once and all it over VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE:!:
SEMPER FI
I'm all for it. It seems the majority of this forum is also for it. I don't see why anyone would NOT approve of it....?
hbharrison
05-24-10, 09:13 AM
I'm all for it. It seems the majority of this forum is also for it. I don't see why anyone would NOT approve of it....?
Becuase some still do not believe in the right of every state to govern themselfs and they believe that only the fed has the power over that people to rule everything. You know Big governement little you :!:
Becuase some still do not believe in the right of every state to govern themselfs and they believe that only the fed has the power over that people to rule everything. You know Big governement little you :!:
I understand that, but reading comments on major news outlets in regards to the Arizona immigration law, it would seem like the VAST majority of people support it. Maybe one in every 5-7 posts are against it. Where are the people who openly oppose this law? I know they are out their, I just can't seem to actually find any..... They only seem to appear in rallies with large numbers, where I guess they feel safety in numbers..? Maybe I'm wrong as I am not a very political person at all and do not understand that side (the politicalness) of it, but that's just what I have noticed.
Sgt Leprechaun
05-25-10, 02:25 AM
As goes Leatherneck, so goes America. And Arizona. The vast majority of people are FOR it.
egbutler1
05-25-10, 03:42 AM
it. Where are the people who openly oppose this law? I know they are out their, I just can't seem to actually find any.....
Right here brother I oppose this **** 100%. 4th Amendment man the 4th. But let me explain cause ill get flack i know. This is how I view it. I don't like the fact that illegals are here and i don't want amnesty or anything like that go threw the proper channels to get into this country. But i view it like this even though it probably would never happen its the principle. If I went to AZ I can be stopped for no reason what so ever with no probable cause. Which I think is bull. I don't think we should be profiling people.
On another note a great man once said this:
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty not safety." BENJAMIN FRANKLIN oh so true in our times now.
Sgt Leprechaun
05-25-10, 03:57 AM
EG, I'm afraid you've misread this, or been misinformed. All the PC rules still apply. As do those regarding reasonable suspicion. Copper just can't yank you off the street and yell "PAAAPPAAAHS"! at you for walkin around wearing a Sombrero with a tan.
hbharrison
05-25-10, 05:06 AM
EG, I'm afraid you've misread this, or been misinformed. All the PC rules still apply. As do those regarding reasonable suspicion. Copper just can't yank you off the street and yell "PAAAPPAAAHS"! at you for walkin around wearing a Sombrero with a tan.
I have some friends that work as deputies with onre of the Sheriff's departments in Arizona and he says that the deputies have all said yes about time and yes PC is still the norm you can not just jerk someone off the street and do your thing on them but if they give you PC and it's good PC ask the question if they are not here illegaly they have nothing to fear and they have aready found several that are not Mexican but from other countries I say that if the Feds won't do it it is up to every state to do so
Exactly. The few people I have come across that oppose the law don't seem to understand what it says. They all scream "racial profiling" thinking that anyone who looks hispanic will be talked to. WRONG.
kenrobg30
05-25-10, 12:23 PM
I don't know if it's the law for sure, but lately, when I go in a store to buy my wife a pack of cigarettes, the clerks have been IDing me. I find it flattering, and I enjoy it. I'm 80 years old, but they tell me they are checking my age. I fully approve of Arizonas' law, and Have hoped, for thirty years or more, to see see alaw passed, curtailing all immigration Into this country. It's my belief, that we are being overrun, and invaded, and our socalled Government is letting it happen. I don't have any answers to the problem. I just feel sorry for our Kids. :iwo: S/F!!! Ken
this basically already is federal law this law just allows police to take part in it and makes it illegal to "profile" and also makes it force police to enforce as you can basically sue the police if u think they arent enforcing this law
DocGreek
05-25-10, 01:22 PM
:D....WEATHERMAN????....I thought that group of terrorists DISBANDED....EH??.....:D
What I don't understand is, this is out to target ILLEGAL people. So, if your here with all your documents to prove you have a right to be here, what's the problem? You have to of caused some other infraction first, so your already going to be pulled over. What's 15-30 more seconds to show some papers? Who the **** cares?
federal already requires them to carry papers this requires locals to verify them. my wifes a LEGAL immigrant she already carries her papers at all times with her. if ur legal it doesnt matter
kenrobg30
05-26-10, 11:49 AM
:D....WEATHERMAN????....I thought that group of terrorists DISBANDED....EH??.....:D
Yeah Doc, just like the Mafia, and the KKK. ;) S/F!! Ken