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thedrifter
09-08-03, 05:51 AM
Split decision on Marine objector <br />
Reservist innocent of desertion, will do time for absence <br />
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A Marine reservist who said he failed to report for duty with his unit in San Jose because he is a...

firstsgtmike
09-08-03, 07:35 AM
"His San Jose-based unit was mobilized Feb. 13 to load ships and cargo planes in San Diego bound for the Middle East."

Sound to me that he was in a Combat Support unit.

"swayed by his recruiter's pitch of new skills, camaraderie and a naive belief that it would be "like the Boy Scouts."



"They don't really advertise that they kill people,"

Obviously mentally retarded. He never read a book, watched tv, or went to the movies, and he had someone read the newspaper comics to him.

I wonder what subects he took in school, since neither history nor current events were ever discussed in his presence.

"he became a conscientious objector after months of being trained to kill."

I'd like to hear a breakdown from him, week by week, of his "killer" training. How many hours in bootcamp were devoted to "killer training"? How many hours in his combat support MOS school were devoted to "killer training"? One weekend a month, and two weeks in the summer are for MOS training, how much of that time was spent in "killer training"?

I don't believe that my Marine Corps has changed THAT much. I can probably count on one hand the hours of "killer training" I received in 20 years. Combat training always stressed how to avoid "being killed".

Now, if his complaint was that all of his training to kill was wasted because "His San Jose-based unit was mobilized Feb. 13 to load ships and cargo planes in San Diego bound for the Middle East", I may be able to understand his disappointment.

As for his claim to being gay, he'll have six months to think about it.

mardet65
09-08-03, 07:46 AM
This "kid" is a total idiot. He's done and said things that will plague him the rest of his life... Sometimes mistakes never go away. Good riddance, the Corps is better off without people like this.

USMC-FO
09-08-03, 09:30 AM
Good riddance.

An A-hole S**t Bird as I see this!

Let's see how he enjoys his BCD in the future I hope that as he ages he comes to undrstand his personal failure in a deep and personal way.

Wish the Corps still practiced a good "drumming out" !

JChristin
09-08-03, 11:42 AM
During the recent war, while sitting in a group meeting of other "professional" folks, a young man spoke about his "newly" found beliefs about being against war. He was being called up in the Army reserves. He went on to share that he didn't want to go off to Iraq and fight an unjust war. Then he shared that he was "gay" and wanted out of the military.

I couldn't believe anyone could be so naive about joining any branch of the military and not realize the potential of risking one's life, or going off to war. But what really ****ed me off was he tried to use "I'm gay" excuse. That got me going.

When I was called upon, I looked straight at that guy and said I had served in the finest military branch in all the world - my friends knew what was coming - I could see people at the table ready to take cover - I mentioned the United States Marine Corps, his face went white. I went on to say he didn't deserve to be in the military as his pansy *** would hamper efforts and not help anyone. Then I added that I knew of a lot of male Marines who where also gay. They never disclosed this to anyone, as they knew about the discrimination that still exisits. But they served honorably and just as effectively as any other Marine. They never used their God-given sexuality as an excuse to get out of anything. I ended with he should be ashamed of himself for using sexuality as a reason to get out of anything.

Well, I didn't see him for a few months. He's back at our professional group and he "eyes" me with caution. He should, I am just of the mind to bring a few "gay" Marines with me sometime. They'll give him a going over - and that's not in the rack neither!


semper fi,
jchristin

thedrifter
09-08-03, 02:30 PM
September 08, 2003 <br />
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Convicted conscientious objector to seek reduced sentence <br />
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By Doug Simpson <br />
Associated Press <br />
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NEW ORLEANS A Marine reservist convicted of leaving his unit for 47 days...

Devildogg4ever
09-08-03, 04:12 PM
Fate hasn't struck yet! Have not seen anyone beat that yet, either! One of the things already mentioned is how some mistakes never go away! I believe these mistakes are going to haunt him in the years to come! I'm sure for a few years he will brag and act like he beat the system, then when he's older and realizes what has really happened, he will be able to do nothing but live with it!!!

MillRatUSMC
09-10-03, 10:47 PM
I just had an idea!!!
Send all these conscientious objectors to Iraq or Afghanistan.
They love gays over there!
I'm sure they would supply some pleasure for the Iraqi and Afghans, who love "boys".
Then we will see if they are attacked, if they won't fight back because they are against killing.
I'm sure that won't stop those seeking to kill Americans from killing these fools.

Semper Fidelis
Ricardo

MillRatUSMC
09-10-03, 10:50 PM
"Boy Scouts" and reduction on sentence?
What a fool, we better off without this fool.

Semper Fidelis
Ricardo

PS Wonder how many more think that this what the military is all about?

Sparrowhawk
09-11-03, 12:44 AM
"They don't really advertise that they kill people," Funk had said when he presented his conscientious objector papers. "I didn't really realize the full implications of what I was doing and what it really meant to be in the service as a reservist."


And, and, they didn't tell me, I had to wear green all the time, or get my hair cut short, and say, "Sir," ....

Stupid, idiot, the Corps is better off with him off its roster.

How did he get through boot camp?