Am I ready for OCS? [Archive] - Marine Corps

levey24

11-19-09, 12:06 AM

I am a college graduate and have long thought of the possibility of a career in the military, only for the USMC though. The public persona of the brotherhood associated with it drew me in as soon as I met with a recruiter during a college fair.

I work out costantly always with the USMC 1st class PFT requirements looming in the back of my mind. I wan't to go to OCS so badly but can't imagine not graduating, the mere thought of failing is the sole reason I'm yet to ship out.

I can max at 100 situps and run a 19:37. I'm 6'5'' 220 (fit and in shape) but the pullups do me in as I can only get a max of 7, on a good day. I do pushups and run with a 40lbs vest but I know I'll be competing against people that have better bodies for strength oriented training (short/stalky).

I graduated with honors from a D1 university and simply want to know if leadership is a major part of the curriculam at OCS as everyone says. Thanks for anyone who responds, your insight is extremely appreciated.

WANNABE Levey

Zulu 36

11-19-09, 07:10 AM

Wyoming

11-19-09, 08:05 AM

You are kinda heavy and tall for a Lady, and I don't think you have to do pullups in 4th Bn.

Keep checking Missy, and you will find that of which you seek.

Lisa 23

11-19-09, 08:20 AM

You are kinda heavy and tall for a Lady, and I don't think you have to do pullups in 4th Bn.

Keep checking Missy, and you will find that of which you seek.

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levey24

11-19-09, 10:06 AM

I'm a male, and my profile has been filled out *as far as I know*

Lupo22

11-19-09, 10:29 AM

You're afraid of failing OCS? If you got through college, I'd imagine you should be able to make it! Don't let fear stop you...you're already starting on the wrong foot to be a Marine! I was terrified leaving for boot camp, but I still got on that plane!

Just go for it man! 7 pull ups isnt that great but its not horrible either. Try to get to like 12 or so by the time you leave! More would be better, of course...

polizei

11-19-09, 12:36 PM

Laf, college is much harder than anything I've had to do in the Corps. Don't worry, I'm sure they tell you everything to do, just follow along...fast.

bgsuwoody

11-21-09, 11:43 AM

levey24

11-21-09, 11:59 AM

If you question yourself now, what do you think you are going to do when the **** hits the fan and you have to make life or death assessments and make decisions. This isn't what you see on TV and the consequences are real. Understand that before making a life decision that you "may not be ready for"

what do i think? i think i'll have proper training and in no way am I in question of my leadership/decision making skills, but more in the physical preperation necessary to be successful at OCS. That is obviously what my post is implying.

Wyoming

11-21-09, 12:48 PM

what do i think? i think i'll have proper training and in no way am I in question of my leadership/decision making skills, but more in the physical preperation necessary to be successful at OCS.That is obviously what my post is implying.

Really. Well Woody must be a dumbass, and I stand with him.

I graduated with honors from a D1 university and simply want to know if leadership is a major part of the curriculam at OCS as everyone says. Thanks for anyone who responds, your insight is extremely appreciated.

Whatever your post implies, it was confusing as hell. I saw nowhere where you asked about anything but leadership.

Truthfully, 7 pullups sucks, and you ain't gonna cut it with that sad display of physical ability.

levey24

11-21-09, 12:53 PM

Really. Well Woody must be a dumbass, and I stand with him.

Whatever your post implies, it was confusing as hell. I saw nowhere where you asked about anything but leadership.

Truthfully, 7 pullups sucks, and you ain't gonna cut it with that sad display of physical ability.

why you guys getting so upset lol ?

Wyoming

11-21-09, 01:03 PM

why you guys getting so upset lol ?

1. Why is it, when the questions are asked, then the answers given, and they don't suit you, do folks become upset, looking for something else.

2. You expected Woody to look up your dress and rad your mind?? **** with 1 Marine, and you **** with them all.

Lisa 23

11-21-09, 01:09 PM

why you guys getting so upset lol ?

That's Marines to you....and I'd watch your tone there when speaking to Marines! :mad:

**** with 1 Marine, and you **** with them all.
You got that right Big Al......:evilgrin:

polizei

11-21-09, 01:09 PM

Rgr that. Listen up to what these fine Marines are telling you. We KNOW what it takes, you don't. It's fine if you ask questions, but don't get mad when the answers aren't what you expected to hear. And just for record, you might not want to back talk any Marines, it's a bad habit to get into, and do it at OCS and you'll find out quick it's something you shouldn't do.

Seems like your run and sit ups are good...but 7 pullups is pathetic, especially for an officer. Work on those and go to OCS, keep an open mind, shout as loud as you can, and move with intensity. Everything else will fall into place...but you better stop doubting yourself now. I never thought I could anything before I joined the Corps, you'll learn you can do a LOT more than you could ever imagine.

Zulu 36

11-21-09, 01:12 PM

Woody is an Afghan vet and many of us are Vietnam vets. We know the absolute necessity for decisive, competent, and CONFIDENT officer leadership.

We VN vets are not in danger of being led in combat by you, but Woody potentially is: he has a vested interest in getting the best.

Remember we are the Marine Corps: Where the weak are killed and eaten.

levey24

11-21-09, 01:15 PM

1. Why is it, when the questions are asked, then the answers given, and they don't suit you, do folks become upset, looking for something else.

2. You expected Woody to look up your dress and rad your mind?? **** with 1 Marine, and you **** with them all.

no offence but its not that the answer didn't suit me, its just it was irrelevant to what i was asking. then everyone gets all mad b/c they 'cant understand' what i was asking' and think they have to get cyber thug on me

to clarify im simply trying to understand the ratio of physical demand to leadership testing during the OCS program

an example of an answer might be 2:1 physical to leadership, or even a percentage would be more than sufficient

thank yoU!:cool:

polizei

11-21-09, 01:18 PM

Well, go and you'll find out. STOP harassing the other Marines, or you're going to let out a whole **** ton of a mess that you won't be able to clean up.

levey24

11-21-09, 01:26 PM

Well, go and you'll find out. STOP harassing the other Marines, or you're going to let out a whole **** ton of a mess that you won't be able to clean up.

ok asking information of marines, on a dedicated forum for wannabes is harassing? i thought that was one of the purposes of this website is so people like me can pick REAL marines brains and get real answers instead of what we see on TV and stuff.

Lisa 23

11-21-09, 01:27 PM

I don't see any Marines being "cyber thugs" towards you. If you can't handle a bit of sarcasm on the internet, you're going to have a rough time of it if you decide to go to OCS.
Learn when to keep your mouth shut towards Marines and just move on. Like Big Al said...when you mess with one Marine, you mess with us all.

Lisa 23

11-21-09, 01:34 PM

ok asking information of marines, on a dedicated forum for wannabes is harassing? i thought that was one of the purposes of this website is so people like me can pick REAL marines brains and get real answers instead of what we see on TV and stuff.
Obviously, you haven't read the rules..........

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Isrowei

11-21-09, 02:10 PM

ok asking information of marines, on a dedicated forum for wannabes is harassing? i thought that was one of the purposes of this website is so people like me can pick REAL marines brains and get real answers instead of what we see on TV and stuff.

I understand you came here for a conversation, but you also stepped into an environment where (much like Boot Camp or OCS), questions are asked for a direct answer... not a back and forth conversation. When you receive an answer to your question, accept it and consider it hard before you ask for more clarification. The answer you are looking for may well be contained in what you were given... it's just not the obvious surface answer.

Much like a college textbook which does not give you outright answers to your eventual test questions, you must read, consider, and comprehend to be adequately prepared to pass your eventual exam. OCS is a pop quiz. Real life scenarios with life and death consequences will be your exam.

Consider this carefully. Your fear is of failing OCS for physical reasons... why? Because you would look bad? To yourself? Your friends?

Physical training in a military indoctrination program is not primarily to test your actual manual strength. Rather, to test your mental courage and ability to persevere through your physical pain. It shows very tangibly your level of intangible "never say die" attitude.

That being said, you will be graded against the other candidates and if you don't measure up... you will be dismissed as being less than ideal. This includes physical conditioning as well as aptitude for teamwork, ability to lead, willingness to follow, propensity to encourage others, level of intestional fortitude, etc.

You're a big guy. I suggest you spend some serious time on a pull-up program. Under 10 will likely not even get you an invite to OCS, much less help you pass. Your physical conditioning WILL go down while you're there because you will be tired, worn out, cranky, and stressed and your body will suffer.

So in short, are you ready for OCS? No.

Could you be? Sure. Given time and preparation, anyone could be.

Are you ready for the leadership portion? No one here can tell you. You will prove that when you arrive.

Now, unless you have something fundamentally different to ask, I suggest you take some time to go work on yourself.

levey24

11-21-09, 02:23 PM

I understand you came here for a conversation, but you also stepped into an environment where (much like Boot Camp or OCS), questions are asked for a direct answer... not a back and forth conversation. When you receive an answer to your question, accept it and consider it hard before you ask for more clarification. The answer you are looking for may well be contained in what you were given... it's just not the obvious surface answer.

Much like a college textbook which does not give you outright answers to your eventual test questions, you must read, consider, and comprehend to be adequately prepared to pass your eventual exam. OCS is a pop quiz. Real life scenarios with life and death consequences will be your exam.

Consider this carefully. Your fear is of failing OCS for physical reasons... why? Because you would look bad? To yourself? Your friends?

Physical training in a military indoctrination program is not primarily to test your actual manual strength. Rather, to test your mental courage and ability to persevere through your physical pain. It shows very tangibly your level of intangible "never say die" attitude.

That being said, you will be graded against the other candidates and if you don't measure up... you will be dismissed as being less than ideal. This includes physical conditioning as well as aptitude for teamwork, ability to lead, willingness to follow, propensity to encourage others, level of intestional fortitude, etc.

You're a big guy. I suggest you spend some serious time on a pull-up program. Under 10 will likely not even get you an invite to OCS, much less help you pass. Your physical conditioning WILL go down while you're there because you will be tired, worn out, cranky, and stressed and your body will suffer.

So in short, are you ready for OCS? No.

Could you be? Sure. Given time and preparation, anyone could be.

Are you ready for the leadership portion? No one here can tell you. You will prove that when you arrive.

Now, unless you have something fundamentally different to ask, I suggest you take some time to go work on yourself.

thank you for your answer !!!! that's what i was looking for ! much appreciated

Wyoming

11-21-09, 02:33 PM

thank you for your answer !!!! that's what i was looking for ! much appreciated

Classic. The good Cap'n said the exact same things we did.

This is a dead thread, as all questions asked, have been answered.

As for me, I'm outta here! The rest of you enjoy.

GasChamber Guru

11-21-09, 04:37 PM

im simply trying to understand the ratio of physical demand to leadership testing during the OCS program

an example of an answer might be 2:1 physical to leadership, or even a percentage would be more than sufficient

thank yoU!:cool:

Hell, I say just go for it. That already sounds like something an Officer would say...lol

Lupo22

11-22-09, 12:20 AM

This kids got an attitude already......he'll be a great officer :devious:

And I definetly think you should capitalize Marines when you type that out there college grad

Good luck. I think you need to do what you feel is best for you. Officers don't have an easy job!

ltherneckdotcom

11-28-09, 02:34 AM

That's Marines to you....and I'd watch your tone there when speaking to Marines! :mad:

Wannabes & Poolees-when using the word MARINE CORPS, it will be capitalized at all times. Show RESPECT to Marines by calling us Marines, NOT 'guys and gals'. Also, show RESPECT to the Marines who answer your questions by saying "Thanks Marines", NOT 'Thanks guys'.

-You're a douche. You make yourself sound stupid.

Sgt Leprechaun

11-28-09, 03:26 AM

Let's see here....no profile, fail to follow site rules, and a completely unconstructive post on a question that's already been answered.......

Bye....