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LIVESTRONGdave
11-02-09, 08:09 AM
Has anyone ever sprained their ankle, broke your finger, or foot? What happends if something similar to that happens and you really can't go on, do they just drop you?
I dislocated my pinkie my sophmore year playing basketball. I would imagine you use your hands alotttttttt. I hope my pinkie doesn't pop. I wouldn't want to leave over that :/
IF you have experiences anything like this, or witnessed. Share some stories.
Thanks Marines. :flag:
echo3oscar1833
11-02-09, 08:24 AM
Has anyone ever sprained their ankle, broke your finger, or foot? What happends if something similar to that happens and you really can't go on, do they just drop you?
I dislocated my pinkie my sophmore year playing basketball. I would imagine you use your hands alotttttttt. I hope my pinkie doesn't pop. I wouldn't want to leave over that :/
IF you have experiences anything like this, or witnessed. Share some stories.
Thanks Marines. :flag:
I don't know really what to tell you, if its an injury that won't hinder your ability to complete training. Then I would tell you to suck it up, and keep moving. If you are injured to the point of where it will affect your training, or possibly cause more serious problems later on down the road. I would say report it to your Drill Instructors, if you get it checked out they will decide if you need to go to MRP or get the boot off the depot. The options are limited, but that's how it goes, either you make it or you don't. SF :marine:
LIVESTRONGdave
11-02-09, 08:29 AM
Okay, thank you.
Its alittle off topic but I was talking with my Recruiting Officer and my mom asked "Does anyone die?" lol. He said suicides. Kind of scary but the only one he saw and was around was someone took their life at the rifle range. :thumbdown
NoRemorse
11-02-09, 08:39 AM
You can google that because there's usually media coverage of recruit deaths and they tend to be publicized. I don't know why you would "lol" at that unless it was an uncomfortable laugh.
As for your original question, depends on the severity of the break/sprain/strain as well as how much the recruit wants to be a Marine.
You keep that in mind before you arrive at MCRD
LIVESTRONGdave
11-02-09, 10:04 AM
You can google that because there's usually media coverage of recruit deaths and they tend to be publicized. I don't know why you would "lol" at that unless it was an uncomfortable laugh.
As for your original question, depends on the severity of the break/sprain/strain as well as how much the recruit wants to be a Marine.
You keep that in mind before you arrive at MCRD
it was like a chuckle. People dying at boot camp? I don't know... I didn't think people would die at bootcamp. It was a nervous laugh, but I guess your right. And plus my mom asked it like? They don't right. It was embarrassing to ask that, It could of been a dumb question.. I don't know man:/ its sad..
Lisa 23
11-02-09, 10:17 AM
it was like a chuckle. People dying at boot camp? I don't know... I didn't think people would die at bootcamp. It was a nervous laugh, but I guess your right. And plus my mom asked it like? They don't right. It was embarrassing to ask that, It could of been a dumb question.. I don't know man:/ its sad..
Recruits dying at boot camp is no laughing matter. It can happend and it did happen. A young man in my nephew's platoon back in Aug of this year died during his final PFT. He died during the run. He had pneumonia and the Dr's thought it was out of his system, and I'm sure the Recruit said he was fine.
So....yes, it can happen.
polizei
11-02-09, 10:19 AM
Well, you haven't gone through it...yes people die. Not too long ago, just a few months a recruit at PI died running the final PFT. Don't laugh at people that die trying to earn the title, or ones that do hold the title.
As far as your question, if the injury is bad enough, you'll get dropped, and sit in med hold until it gets better...or, you suck it up and deal with it, but that's at your own risk...we had a guy in my platoon break is ankle on the crucible, but he STILL humped the 9 miles back to get his EGA. We couldn't get his boot off his ankle was swollen so bad...he got to graduate, but didn't get to partake in the graduation ceremony, and he had to stay on PI for another few months until it healed.
LIVESTRONGdave
11-02-09, 10:26 AM
why would i laugh at people dying in general? Not just people trying to hold our freedom... I didn't LAUGH when I heard someone took their on life on the rifle range.. I laughed when my mom asked thinking no one has died at bootcamp.
And your right I haven't been to Parris, haven't signed yet (DEC 1ST), haven't experienced the life as a marine.
In no way have I laughed at someone dying....:thumbdown
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 10:52 AM
Has anyone ever sprained their ankle, broke your finger, or foot? What happends if something similar to that happens and you really can't go on, do they just drop you?:flag:
I fractured my leg the final week of boot camp. It started breaking during the first month and finally broke in the end. I was dropped to medical platoon to heal. I was there nearly three months. I was asked if I wanted to go home instead of healing. The choice was mine.
I can say that about 3/4 of the injuries in boot camp are fake, or exaggerated. Most of the injured recruits in the rehab platoon only wanted to go home. It is a sad and depressing place. Many shoulder injuries, and leg/feet injuries.
I was told that the reason they dropped me was because if I was allowed to graduate, then eventually my injury would catch up to me. It was better I heal in boot camp then to be dropped during SOI. They said being dropped while at SOI would of given me a very bad impression about the USMC. So this is why they held me back.
You can only suck it up so much. If you have noticeable injuries they will drop you. It is for your own good, and the good of the USMC. There is no point in letting you graduate with an injury that will inhibit you in the near future.
dislocation of a pinky? you should definitely be fine. if you re-injure it during training...if serious enough they will drop you back, depending how long it takes to fully heal and you can go back to train. you won't get dropped ALL the way back, but to another platoon that is picking up where you left off.
Lisa 23
11-02-09, 11:14 AM
why would i laugh at people dying in general? Not just people trying to hold our freedom... I didn't LAUGH when I heard someone took their on life on the rifle range.. I laughed when my mom asked thinking no one has died at bootcamp.
And your right I haven't been to Parris, haven't signed yet (DEC 1ST), haven't experienced the life as a marine.
In no way have I laughed at someone dying....:thumbdown
That's Parris Island to you. Paris is in France...
And when using the word Marine, it will be capitaized at all times.
you need to experience life as a recruit before you can experience life as a Marine.
I fractured my leg the final week of boot camp. It started breaking during the first month and finally broke in the end. I was dropped to medical platoon to heal. I was there nearly three months. I was asked if I wanted to go home instead of healing. The choice was mine.
I can say that about 3/4 of the injuries in boot camp are fake, or exaggerated. Most of the injured recruits in the rehab platoon only wanted to go home. It is a sad and depressing place. Many shoulder injuries, and leg/feet injuries.
I was told that the reason they dropped me was because if I was allowed to graduate, then eventually my injury would catch up to me. It was better I heal in boot camp then to be dropped during SOI. They said being dropped while at SOI would of given me a very bad impression about the USMC. So this is why they held me back.
You can only suck it up so much. If you have noticeable injuries they will drop you. It is for your own good, and the good of the USMC. There is no point in letting you graduate with an injury that will inhibit you in the near future.
FightOn I just have to ask? You went to SOI??
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 02:05 PM
FightOn I just have to ask? You went to SOI??
Did I stutter or did your ears flap? My words here>>"It was better I heal in boot camp then to be dropped during SOI. They said being dropped while at SOI would of given me a very bad impression about the USMC"<< If you can't tell I went to SOI, then oh well.
You can keep playing your lame games of scrutinizing every post I make and as always you will fail. You already tried to tell me the nickname of 1/3 was NOT the 'LAVADOGS', and you claim to have served with them. Pretty pathetic. Like I told you already, until you grow a pair and man up, you are irrelevant. Is it to hard for you to admit you were wrong?
If you need for me to explain to you that ALL Marines attend SOI, then I guess you truly are one silly fool.
So keep acting like a 12 year old and leaving your cute messages on my page, and keep on challenging every word I say. Go on with your bad self....
Zulu 36
11-02-09, 02:16 PM
why would i laugh at people dying in general? Not just people trying to hold our freedom... I didn't LAUGH when I heard someone took their on life on the rifle range.. I laughed when my mom asked thinking no one has died at bootcamp.
And your right I haven't been to Parris, haven't signed yet (DEC 1ST), haven't experienced the life as a marine.
In no way have I laughed at someone dying....:thumbdown
So you just laughed at your Mom instead, and that's OK too?
Mothers are supposed to ask questions like that. Mainly because we are too stupid to ask them ourselves at 17 or 18-years old.
Be very grateful that your Mom is involved in the recruiting process, it will save you grief later.
Did I stutter or did your ears flap? My words here>>"It was better I heal in boot camp then to be dropped during SOI. They said being dropped while at SOI would of given me a very bad impression about the USMC"<< If you can't tell I went to SOI, then oh well.
You can keep playing your lame games of scrutinizing every post I make and as always you will fail. You already tried to tell me the nickname of 1/3 was NOT the 'LAVADOGS', and you claim to have served with them. Pretty pathetic. Like I told you already, until you grow a pair and man up, you are irrelevant. Is it to hard for you to admit you were wrong?
If you need for me to explain to you that ALL Marines attend SOI, then I guess you truly are one silly fool.
So keep acting like a 12 year old and leaving your cute messages on my page, and keep on challenging every word I say. Go on with your bad self....
All of this in the Poolee forum, very professional Marine. Good job. :thumbdown Way to show the brotherhood of the Marine Corps to future members of our beloved Corps... Truly impressive...
Just to clarify for our young readers. All Marines do NOT attend SOI. That is an exclusive club that only infantry Marines belong to. You know .... School of Infantry. My apologies for polluting this thread!
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 03:03 PM
From the official USMC website.
"At the School of Infantry, Marines who receive the infantry military specialty are trained at Infantry Training Battalion (ITB), and all non-infantry Marine's are trained in basic infantry/Marine common skills at Marine Combat Training Battalion (MCT). SOI marks a transition in the professional training of entry-level students from basically trained Marines to Marine warriors."
http://www.usmc.mil/units/hqmc/tecom/soiwest/Pages/Welcome.aspx
From Wikipedia.
The School of Infantry (SOI) is the second stage of initial military training for enlisted United States Marines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps) after Recruit Training (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps_Recruit_Training). Since the initial training pipeline is divided between coasts, Marines from areas east of the Mississippi River (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_River) usually graduate from MCRD Parris Island (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Recruit_Depot_Parris_Island) and move onto SOI at SOI East (located at Camp Geiger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Geiger), a satellite facility of Camp Lejeune (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Base_Camp_Lejeune) in North Carolina (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina)), while those from the western half of the nation attend MCRD San Diego (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Recruit_Depot_San_Diego) and move onto SOI West at the Camp San Onofre area of Camp Pendleton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Base_Camp_Pendleton) in California (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California). Female Marines are an exception, all of whom go through MCRD Parris Island and SOI East.
The School of Infantry's training mission ensures "Every Marine is, first and foremost, a Rifleman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifleman)". At SOI, Marines with the Military Occupational Specialty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Marine_Corps_MOS) of infantry (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infantry) (0300 occupational field) are trained at the Infantry Training Battalion (ITB), while all non-infantry Marines are trained in basic infantry/combat skills at the Marine Combat Training Battalion (MCT Bn). SOI marks a transition in the professional training of entry-level students from basically trained Marines to combat ready Marines.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps_School_of_Infantry
SlingerDun
11-02-09, 03:25 PM
From Wikipedia.
The School of Infantry (SOI) is the second stage of initial military training for enlisted United States Marines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps) after Recruit Training (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Marine_Corps_Recruit_Training)Yet another wikiblunder http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif
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RYDERKUR
11-02-09, 03:32 PM
I think it's a fairly accurate way of saying it's like an infantry unit, echelon-wise, where the "School of Infantry" is the "regiment" and then there is the Marine Combat Training Battalion and Infantry Training Battalion as well as Advanced Infantry Training Battalion, and possibly Weapons and Field Training Battalion, I forget if they have one at SOI.
I spent 6 weeks in MRP due to a stress fracture on my 3rd Metatarsol. Common injury it seems. I had ignored it for 2 weeks before it got so bad that it was hard to walk on my foot. Doctor said had I kept going, I would have broke it completely and it may have even punctured through my foot.
Anyways, MRP is a very depressing place, but only you can keep yourself motivated to stay there and tough it out. Ignore all those other recruits who are only there to try to get sent home. It's hard but you'll manage if you want the title Marine bad enough.
Good luck to you!
Fighton whereas you are relying on wiki I am relying on personal experience. Even a brand new first day on the yellow footprints boot knows that Marines attend either SOI or MCT. Granted SOI and MCT fall under the umbrella of ITB, but to come out and say all Marines attend SOI is completely false. What is your personal experience? Google is your friend. You can only fake the funk for so long before you are exposed.
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 04:26 PM
Fighton whereas you are relying on wiki I am relying on personal experience. Even a brand new first day on the yellow footprints boot knows that Marines attend either SOI or MCT. Granted SOI and MCT fall under the umbrella of ITB, but to come out and say all Marines attend SOI is completely false. What is your personal experience? Google is your friend. You can only fake the funk for so long before you are exposed.
Perhaps Google should be your friend. Whats wrong, are you upset that you are once again wrong. I do not rely on Wiki, that was a second source.
Did you even read the first link? Are you saying the USMC website is wrong? Funny how you refuse to accept FACTS provided to you.
Your words here>>>"Granted SOI and MCT fall under the umbrella of ITB"<<< You are very wrong. SOI is a location on the west and east coast. SOI is made up of ITB and MCT and other schools. If you don't agree with this, then that is on you and does not mean I did not go through SOI.
Perhaps this link will convince you.
"Located aboard Camp Geiger, North Carolina, Marine Combat Training Battalion (MCT), Infantry Training Battalion (ITB), Advanced Infantry Training Battalion (AITB), and Headquarters and Support Battalion (H&S) fall under the Commanding Officer of the School of Infantry –East (SOI-East). These subordinate commands train and support Marines at the entry-level, and the advanced level in warrior skills. SOI-East's training mission ensures "Every Marine is, first and foremost, a rifleman!"
http://www.marines.mil/units/hqmc/tecom/soieast/Pages/welcome.aspx
Yes, you truly are doing a great job at exposing me. Did it ever occur to you that things may of changed since you went through SOI? I hate to tell you, but today SOI is not only where the 03xx MOS gets trained, but it is also where non-infantry Marines get trained. Knowledge is power.
What is your personal experience?
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 04:42 PM
What is your personal experience?
We already went through this. Read my profile.
If I was a radio operator then obviously I went through MCT located at the SOI/WEST.
ALL MARINES go through SOI.
Do all Marines also go through communicators school in uhh where was that again? All Marines that attend any sort of school at Ft. Lee must also be cooks. All Marines that attend any sort of school at Ft. Benning must be rangers. You want to step into the deep end of the pool without first learning to swim then lets dance.
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 04:51 PM
If you can't accept the fact that the USMC changed the name or role of SOI, then that is all on you.
Like I said, when you went through this school years ago it was all 03xx's. Things have changed since then. SOI is now a location with several schools under it such as ITB, or MCT.
Let me make it even more clear for you. If you enlisted today and were an 03xx then you would attend ITB which is located at the SOI.
They changed the name, get over it. All Marines attend SOI after boot camp.
And why wont you accept those links from the USMC site? Do you somehow feel I am making those up also? Enough is enough. If you are wrong, then oh well. Learn and move on. Stop trying to twist facts.
Enough is enough is enough. Where did you attend comm school after completing SOI?
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 05:12 PM
Enough is enough is enough. Where did you attend comm school after completing SOI?
If you thought I was a fraud, then why would you ask me these silly questions such as where I went to school? Anyone can get this info if they wanted it.
Where do you think I attended comm school? 29 Palms of course, Bravo Company. Does that satisfy you? And after that I went to Hawaii and was stationed with 1/3 until I got out. Ask me specifics if you want proof because general questions don't prove anything.
Some how I got the impression that you were at one time stationed at Fuji? What camp were you on in 29 palms?
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 05:21 PM
Some how I got the impression that you were at one time stationed at Fuji? What camp were you on in 29 palms?
I never said I was at any camp while at 29 Palms. I was there for school.
And I never said I was stationed at Camp Fuji. We went there as a company and a half from Okinawa while deployed there. The rest went to Thailand.
I never knew there were permanent Marines on Camp Fuji.
From your profile
Camp Pendleton, CA - MCT
29 Palms, CA - School
MCB/MCAS Hawaii - Duty
--Camp Hansen
--Camp Fuji
---MCAS Yuma, AZ - TAD
---NAF EL Centro, CA -TAD Year Exited Marine Corps
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 05:30 PM
From your profile
Camp Pendleton, CA - MCT
29 Palms, CA - School
MCB/MCAS Hawaii - Duty
--Camp Hansen
--Camp Fuji
---MCAS Yuma, AZ - TAD
---NAF EL Centro, CA -TAD Year Exited Marine Corps
Did you notice the "Duty" after MCB/MCAS Hawaii? I was stationed there and while there we went to --Camps Fuji. and Hansen. You know as well as I do that 3rd MAR REG gets stationed at Camp Hansen while there. And from there they often go elsewhere like on ship, to mainland Japan, Thailand, Australia, etc etc.
TazMatt
11-02-09, 05:30 PM
All this is like ****ing in the wind.
It is impossible for me to concieve that a Marine who went through comm school at 29 palms just says he was at 29 palms and can't list a camp. Yes I am peeing in the wind.
Regale us with a brief description of camp fuji Fighton?
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-02-09, 05:45 PM
It is impossible for me to concieve that a Marine who went through comm school at 29 palms just says he was at 29 palms and can't list a camp. Yes I am peeing in the wind.
Regale us with a brief description of camp fuji Fighton?
I would send you a PM but you never answered my last one. And I agree that all this is very silly. But if you keep asking me, then I will keep answering you.
Why would I say I was at camp (x) at 29 Palms if I wasn't on any camp? Do you want me to lie and say I was at some camp? I was there as a student in the barracks of company B, FROC 2531...
A brief description of the Camp Fuji. Oh boy you are trying to catch me slipping. You go on with your bad self.
I can tell you from the barracks located to the north of the camp, I had to walk south past the flight line and that is where I would go drink and play slots whenever I could.
Not much to describe there. The mountain sits to the north along with the training areas. You open a gate, and then go train wherever your range is located. Many quansen huts which is where out comm shop was located with stoves in the center of them. Officers and staff nco's if I remember correctly had nice barracks located to the south east of the camp.
The base does not lay flat, it is on an incline. Kind of like 29 Palms.
Anything else you want to know? Oh and by the way, you didnt ask me to mention any camp at 29, you asked what camp I was at. Once again, anyone can find out the name of Camp Wilson. That doesnt prove anything.
ghost3000
11-02-09, 06:13 PM
This is hilarious. Bulkyker is so wrong about being in comm school in 29 Palms and can't name a camp. I was in comm school in 29 Palms and can't name a camp. Maybe because we aren't part of a camp. I was with MCCES. Marine Corps Communication-Electronics School. https://www.29palms.usmc.mil/tenants/mcces/mcceshome.asp.
Same goes for USCFIGHTONUSC. Sorry no camp.
This is hilarious. Bulkyker is so wrong about being in comm school in 29 Palms and can't name a camp. I was in comm school in 29 Palms and can't name a camp. Maybe because we aren't part of a camp. I was with MCCES. Marine Corps Communication-Electronics School. https://www.29palms.usmc.mil/tenants/mcces/mcceshome.asp.
Same goes for USCFIGHTONUSC. Sorry no camp.
Are you suggesting that comm school is conducted out in the middle of the desert and you all live in tents? Twenty nine palms is the largest military base in the US and stretches from yuma AZ to Las Vegas NV to Las Angeles California. Surely somewhere out there is a camp where comm operators are trained. ;) Be careful with your reply.
usmcmsf
11-02-09, 08:11 PM
Back to the original thread...
everyone, most everyone, will have to fight trough something while at boot, weather it be sickness or injury. You will be knicked up alot, but must keep moving on. For me, whenever we did pushups, my right shoulder felt like it was about to pop and my forearm felt some kind of weird, but you keep pushing forward.
Now back to Bulkyker's investigation....and I hate USC
echo3oscar1833
11-02-09, 11:10 PM
Are you suggesting that comm school is conducted out in the middle of the desert and you all live in tents? Twenty nine palms is the largest military base in the US and stretches from yuma AZ to Las Vegas NV to Las Angeles California. Surely somewhere out there is a camp where comm operators are trained. ;) Be careful with your reply.
Actually MCCES is located in Mainside section of Twentynine Palms MAGCC. My dad was a Platoon Sgt, and Instructor there, plus I've been to the school myself on a tour. There is no specific "Camp" section for it, now there are Camps out in the the desert portion of the base such as Camp Wilson which was our main Camp when I was there for double CAX. Also not to say anyone is wrong here, I'm staying out of that. I,m just clearing up the "What Camp" issue. :marine: :D
Mainside is a camp and that is what I was looking for. How hard is that?
SlingerDun
11-03-09, 12:01 AM
So is SOI a misnomer? Apparently it's not literaly a school but a place where Marines attend school, and that place on the west coast is Camp San Onofre home of ITB and MCT and...?
I don't believe every Marine "attends" SOI directly after boot camp as i've heard a few reserve Marines say they put off attending MCT for many months. I'm looking at Google Earth and i see a logo painted in the middle of the grinder. Is it still a pair of worn out boots?
-->Dave
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-03-09, 12:13 AM
Are you suggesting that comm school is conducted out in the middle of the desert and you all live in tents? Twenty nine palms is the largest military base in the US and stretches from yuma AZ to Las Vegas NV to Las Angeles California. Surely somewhere out there is a camp where comm operators are trained. ;) Be careful with your reply.
Yea, I too would be very careful in what I reply.
Give me a break please. 29 Palms is NOT the largest military base in the USA. I believe that honor goes to Fort Hood, TX.
29 Palms is the largest USMC base size wise. And just to let you know, 29 Palms does not go from Yuma, AZ to Las Vegas, NV. to Los Angeles, CA. I live in LA and never in my life time has 29 Palms come out to the LA area.
You may hope it does and you may wish it does, but reality states differently.
Can you please explain to all of us how 29 Palms comes all the way out to the LA area? That is just fascinating news to me.!!!!!!! I could of swore that I had to drive at leat two hours to get to 29 Palms from my home in LA. I guess you know better with all your experience.
Good lord give me a freakin break.
yeah, 90 day reservists don't goto MCT/ITB until their next 90 days the following year
I thought google was your friend? Do you need someone to hold your hand while you go to the little boys room? I did the search for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marine_Corps_Air_Ground_Combat_Center_Twentynine_P alms
Yea, I too would be very careful in what I reply.
Give me a break please. 29 Palms is NOT the largest military base in the USA. I believe that honor goes to Fort Hood, TX.
29 Palms is the largest USMC base size wise. And just to let you know, 29 Palms does not go from Yuma, AZ to Las Vegas, NV. to Los Angeles, CA. I live in LA and never in my life time has 29 Palms come out to the LA area.
You may hope it does and you may wish it does, but reality states differently.
Can you please explain to all of us how 29 Palms comes all the way out to the LA area? That is just fascinating news to me.!!!!!!! I could of swore that I had to drive at leat two hours to get to 29 Palms from my home in LA. I guess you know better with all your experience.
Good lord give me a freakin break.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, have you ever heard of a live fire range?
have you ever wondered why CAX is out there? CAX involves every type of live fire. helo, fixed wing, arty, mortars, AT4s, bullets... EVERYTHING. Just because he says it goes out there doesn't mean down-town LA. LA is a county bro.
and so you don't have to read through it all
The base is currently home to the largest military training area in the nation (and the largest US base in the world), and consequently, the largest training program. The program known as Mojave Viper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mojave_Viper) has become the model of pre-Operation Iraqi Freedom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Iraqi_Freedom) deployment training. The majority of units in the Marine Corps will undergo a month at Mojave Viper before deploying to Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War) or a mixed training venue using the Mountain Warfare Training Center (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Warfare_Training_Center) for Afghanistan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_%282001%E2%80%93present%29). Live fire exercises, artillery, tank, and close air support (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_air_support) training are used for training, in addition to the sprawling "Combat Town," a 2-acre (8,100 m2) fabricated Middle Eastern village, complete with a mosque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosque), native role-players, an "IED (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Improvised_explosive_device) Alley," and other immersive touches.
USCFIGHTONUSC
11-03-09, 12:47 AM
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, have you ever heard of a live fire range?
have you ever wondered why CAX is out there? CAX involves every type of live fire. helo, fixed wing, arty, mortars, AT4s, bullets... EVERYTHING. Just because he says it goes out there doesn't mean down-town LA. LA is a county bro.
Oh I am thrilled that you decided to get involved "bro". San Bernardino County is a county which encompasses 29 Palms. For you or anyone else to suggest that 29 Palms is located in LA county is just asinine and very stupid on your part.
Lets go through this once again. 29 Palms is located in San Bernardino County, CA and NOT in LA county or Nevada.
How friggin stupid can people get???
A very good demonstration on your part. Next we'll be argueing if the sky is blue.
Put google to work young man. Ft Sill is larger than Ft Hood. You are grasping at straws now.
FIGHTON, have you checked out the last line in your sig lately? :confused:
Oh I am thrilled that you decided to get involved "bro". San Bernardino County is a county which encompasses 29 Palms. For you or anyone else to suggest that 29 Palms is located in LA county is just asinine and very stupid on your part.
Lets go through this once again. 29 Palms is located in San Bernardino County, CA and NOT in LA county or Nevada.
How friggin stupid can people get???
Hey there Cpl, let's not go bashing each other here. I'm pointing something very simple out to you. Would you say that San Bernardino County borders LA County??? here's a link to help you out. http://www.cagenweb.com/lassen/map_files/image012.gif I don't recall saying it was in, I recall saying it was by... but that doesn't matter.
now beside that, I don't have the range control maps but I know they go WAY out there. the official word is that it's half way between LA and Las Vegas, but kid... I should smack the sh!t out of you for talking at me like that.
So is SOI a misnomer? Apparently it's not literaly a school but a place where Marines attend school, and that place on the west coast is Camp San Onofre home of ITB and MCT and...?
I don't believe every Marine "attends" SOI directly after boot camp as i've heard a few reserve Marines say they put off attending MCT for many months. I'm looking at Google Earth and i see a logo painted in the middle of the grinder. Is it still a pair of worn out boots?
-->Dave
I believe SOI is the command. All Marines are SUPPOSED to attend it, but some manage to skate past. I know a female Marine that didn't go because she got pregnant while on RA after boot camp. To this day she's never gone to SOI>MCT.
But SOI isn't for just 03xx Marines. That's just a rumor that starts with poolees and gets carried on into the FMF.
LIVESTRONGdave
11-03-09, 08:24 AM
So you just laughed at your Mom instead, and that's OK too?
Mothers are supposed to ask questions like that. Mainly because we are too stupid to ask them ourselves at 17 or 18-years old.
Be very grateful that your Mom is involved in the recruiting process, it will save you grief later.
Im always doing something wrong... just drop it
LIVESTRONGdave
11-03-09, 08:25 AM
I spent 6 weeks in MRP due to a stress fracture on my 3rd Metatarsol. Common injury it seems. I had ignored it for 2 weeks before it got so bad that it was hard to walk on my foot. Doctor said had I kept going, I would have broke it completely and it may have even punctured through my foot.
Anyways, MRP is a very depressing place, but only you can keep yourself motivated to stay there and tough it out. Ignore all those other recruits who are only there to try to get sent home. It's hard but you'll manage if you want the title Marine bad enough.
Good luck to you!
I love how you stay on topic, thank you! I get yelled at for my stories and people flame forums with non sense. Again thanks Marine :flag:
NoRemorse
11-03-09, 08:27 AM
Im always doing something wrong... just drop it
What do you think you'll be when you arrive at MCRD?
You'll be a recruit; recruits are always wrong, they smell funny, they look dirty, they can't shave right, their uniform is always jacked up, they're never loud enough, they move too slow, and they don't talk back when castigated by a Drill Instructor.
Then one day like magic they realize they've been slowly transforming all along into one of the few creatures on Earth that draws duty both in Heaven and Hell.
Get used to pushing... as in now...
LIVESTRONGdave
11-03-09, 08:29 AM
What do you think you'll be when you arrive at MCRD?
You'll be a recruit; recruits are always wrong, they smell funny, they look dirty, they can't shave right, their uniform is always jacked up, they're never loud enough, they move too slow, and they don't talk back when castigated by a Drill Instructor.
Then one day like magic they realize they've been slowly transforming all along into one of the few creatures on Earth that draws duty both in Heaven and Hell.
Get used to pushing... as in now...
Im not a recruit. I'm a 17 year old in 2nd hour trying to investigate what it takes to be a Marine and some questions I have. Im not wrong at all actually. When I leave for boot.... oh excuse me Marines, bootcamp, THEN I will be wrong alllllll the way through until they hand me EGA. oh wait!!! *IF I CAN DO IT* ...
NoRemorse
11-03-09, 08:31 AM
Fair enough, lost one.
Enjoy...
LIVESTRONGdave
11-03-09, 08:33 AM
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