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TheWHOMotley
08-27-09, 05:39 PM
Hello all. First time poster and been viewing for a little while. I'm 24 years old and a dedicated weightlifter , former football player yada yada yada...none of that really matters right now , but I've always had this urge to be a United States Marine. Yes, I know 24 years old is a little old just to say " Hey I want to be a Marine." See my father was in the army and has a big input in my life. I still listen to his words as if they were made of gold. I always get pumped up on the thoughts of pursuing my dream of becoming a Marine and all that the it takes to make that happen. ( Parris Island, the training, ), but my parents always tell me that the Marine Corps won't help me any other then brainwashing me and letting me go out there jobless into the civie world after I'm all used up. I work in a plant here locally and really like helping out around with bills and such. I don't want to let them down, but I feel as if I can't be happy until I make the blind leap into the Marine Corps. I want to go the infantry route and hopefully become as highly trained as possible in that area of the USMC. My eyesight isn't that very good. I wear contacts and was wondering if that would hinder me in my goal of making my way up the enlisted ranks of the USMC by way of the Infantry..

Petz
08-27-09, 06:07 PM
all I can say is you need to learn how to utilize separate paragraphs.... I hate this post so much I'm not going to read it.

TheWHOMotley
08-27-09, 06:18 PM
Just because you have earned the title of United States Marine doesn't give you the right to crap on those who have questions who have not reached that title yet. Man, I thought this was a message board... not an english class... I came to this board looking for clear cut answers by Marines and not end of the month meeting fiending Marine recruiters.

CplKJSpevak
08-27-09, 06:35 PM
Your being disrespectful to a Staff Non-commissioned Officer!
Because you probably don't know anything about our beloved Corps, AND this is the first time you posted on here. Here is some advise, Be respectful to ALL Marines. If you want a crack at the title you better get a little more thick skinned.
Now, I wouldn't jump into anything "Blind"....... Learn about the Marine Corps, go speak to a USMC Recruiter. You are screened medically during the enlistment process, so any questions about your eyesight will be taken care of then. It doesn't sound like it would be a problem though. If you were looking to be a pilot it might be a different story.

TheWHOMotley
08-27-09, 06:52 PM
Thank you, Sir. I was also wondering if eyesight can be fixed by the United States Marine Corps by Prk or Lasik after enough time to prove my worth to the U.S.M.C. to ensure that my eyesight is well enough to hopefully become a full-forced hard-charging Marine. To me, the Marine Corps are a separate Branch of well- oiled fighting machines compared to the Army, Navy, and Air-Force. I know the Navy has their beloved SEAL teams, but to enlist in the Navy and to give your God given all to become one and not succeed just to become a regular Sailor doesn't sit well. To me Marines are a step above all else, including the SEALs. A Marine is a title you can never take away, as is the title of SEAL, but to complete boot at Parris Island would be a great accomplishment.

TheWHOMotley
08-27-09, 07:02 PM
I will take these questions up with a recruiter. I was just asking to check answers from current or former Infantry Marines.

Petz
08-27-09, 07:33 PM
you should start your personal research with the rules of this site...

grissom
08-27-09, 08:13 PM
I Read The Post With No Paragraphs,he Asked A Couple Of Questions Thats All. I Dont Think It Was A Big Deal How He Asked.

ecfree
08-27-09, 08:23 PM
The WHO Motley,,,,Read the rules,,,,you need a PROFILE now....:evilgrin:

TheWHOMotley
08-27-09, 08:35 PM
Profile done.

TheWHOMotley
08-27-09, 08:53 PM
Rushed too quickly on posting . Sorry for not reading the " Must Read" post for all Marine hopefuls on guidelines and such...

Petz
08-27-09, 10:00 PM
I'm still waiting... but it's ok, I'll be sure to send some letters to you in boot camp.

0331 2 0369
08-28-09, 07:09 AM
Unless you are as blind as a bat don't worry about your vision. You will be issued BC's in bootcamp. No contacts while in bootcamp. After you have completed all of your schools and finally reach your first unit, you can always either set up an eye appointment on your own or go through your BAS and let them set it up for you. You can have lasik done but if I remember right, their is a pretty lengthy wait list. Hopefully they have been able to fix part of the delay by now.

TheWHOMotley
08-28-09, 06:39 PM
Thank you. Communicating over the internet is a tricky thing. I did not mean to offend anyone in the United States Marine Corps. This is just the internet. People take things waay out of hand on here and try to become online Rambo's. I was only here to get answers from current of former Marines in the Infantry field of the USMC. No disrespect. Your rank online is one thing. How in the hell do I ( being a civie) know that you are of imporpantance. The internet is not boot camp. The internet is not the USMC. It is so uptight on here, but that it is the way of the USMC.

Sgt Leprechaun
08-28-09, 06:43 PM
Next time you disrespect a SNCO you'll find out just how the Marine Corps really works. Suggest you adjust yourself and move on from there.

We DO, in fact, value grammar and writing skills. Speaks to discipline. Don't like it? Tough. Deal with it. You are a GUEST amongst us, and haven't EARNED our title. Until you do, remember that. Act like a Guest.

Nuff said. Only warning.

And, our 'ranks' as shown here aren't for number of postings, they are the actual ranks we EARNED in the Marine Corps, as verified through our site. Take note of THAT as well. At this point, a Marine Private E-1 'outranks' you, because he/she has earned our title. Something we do not take lightly.

Moving on to your question...

Literally, wearing glasses isn't a show stopper for ANY MOS except if you want to fly. You have to be almost blind. Now, that will limit you if, say, you wanted to go the 'scout sniper' route, but that would be about it. I served as an Infantry Marine and earned my Airborne status while wearing contacts and never had an issue. That being said, though, I NEVER deployed to the desert with them (except for 29 Palms).

The Corps will 'fix' your eyesight if they feel it's in their best interest to do so. That will be dependant on multiple variables at the time, including availability of both you and the Doctor.

Petz
08-28-09, 08:02 PM
so... I'm still waiting for something that doesn't start off as an apology but end up blaming me for your reasons for being disrespectful... which it then is obviously NOT an apology.

TheWHOMotley
08-28-09, 09:02 PM
No disrespect to anyone. I am only a visitor here on your turf. I APOLOGIZE (SSgt Petzold )to those who I offended. I'm not trying to be a smartass. I know I will have to answer to those who are younger and have more rank than me if I pass the test at Parris Island. That will not be an easy thing for me ( with ranks and such.) You know I see where you guys get offended. I try to talk to people about joining the Marines and they always end up calling it the "ARMY". I'm not even a Marine , but alot of people just don't give a damn enough to even take the time to say the correct branch. No disrespect to anyone. I have to the up most respect for everyone here who is a Marine and Poolee which now is more than I can say.

Petz
08-28-09, 09:08 PM
re-write your initial Post and lets see if we can help...

TheWHOMotley
08-28-09, 10:12 PM
Would having bad eyesight cause me to have trouble in having a rising career in the Marine Corps with an Infantry MOS?

TJKUSMC
08-28-09, 10:15 PM
I wouldn't think so. I know for a fact there is one guy in my squad who is color blind and several guys in my infantry platoon who have to wear glasses in order to even shoot a target. Then again I don't know the specific Marine Corps order on it...

TheWHOMotley
08-28-09, 10:28 PM
You know, recruiters have a way of trying to work around the questions just to get the ink on the paper. I even had a recruiter tell me back in high school that Pro football scouts come around to Marine Corps bases scouting for Pro talent. Thanks for your help.
I know that the desert is where most Marines end up, but is there training for Marines in the areas of under water tactics and say ... parachuting... man that sounds like a rush. That's the main reason for my interest in the USMC. The overall badassness and the idea of it being an adventure.

samthomas
08-28-09, 10:33 PM
Recon/force recon have the ability to get jump and scuba qualifications. The numbers for these groups are very small. If you want one of these guaranteed, it would be easier to go for the Army.

Petz
08-28-09, 10:35 PM
well that recruiter wasn't lying to you about scouts... so long as you're good enough for them to hear about.

as for underwater tactics.... we don't fight underwater unless it's in a sub.

parachuting is for specific MOSs... we tend not to do it too often 'cause it makes you an easy target.

if you're joining the Corps for a rush then you should reconsider.

I recommend you talk to a recruiter and get all the information you need from them and see what jobs are available for you.

they don't lie to get the ink on paper, they simply answer your questions... you just need to know which questions to ask.

Case in point, you can't explain what it's like working for a company to a new-hire in the short time you have them in orientation, if they ask certain questions you can answer them, but everyone will find out for themselves how the job suits them and their performance will dictate how they are treated, so in truth... everyones time in the Corps is different.

How can I divine how or what you will do in the Corps?

TheWHOMotley
08-28-09, 10:41 PM
No disrespect to the other services, but the Army just doesn't have the appeal that USMC does to me. Some of you Marines sound like the USMC isn't the best fit for me??

samthomas
08-28-09, 10:46 PM
Why does the Marine Corps appeal to you? It isn't about baubles and trash on your chest, or doing secret squirrel stuff.

You commented about something that is highly unlikely to happen if you were allowed to become a Marine. I offered a way to accomplish your goal.

I like to be like the Jewish Rabbi who turns the convert away three times. If you persevere, you might become a Marine. No one is going to hold your hand, and walk you through.

TheWHOMotley
08-28-09, 11:02 PM
Tradition, tradition, tradition. From an outsider the Marine Corps wreaks of hardcoreness and every military guy has a " I coulda been a Marine, but....my mom said the air force would pay for school.. you can see the world in the navy.. the national guard gives you money and its easier than the Marine Corps. and so on."
I am not the smartest guy in class and I probably won't score an amazing ASVAB score either, but to become a Marine is something I want to do for MYSELF. No one else. Do I want pats on the back?? No, I'm 24 years old. I want to become part of the fraternity. Is this not a fraternity?? I want that bond , man.

Petz
08-28-09, 11:44 PM
then start by talking to a recruiter, and using our ranks when available...

Zulu 36
08-29-09, 09:26 AM
Tradition, tradition, tradition. From an outsider the Marine Corps wreaks of hardcoreness and every military guy has a " I coulda been a Marine, but....my mom said the air force would pay for school.. you can see the world in the navy.. the national guard gives you money and its easier than the Marine Corps. and so on."
I am not the smartest guy in class and I probably won't score an amazing ASVAB score either, but to become a Marine is something I want to do for MYSELF. No one else. Do I want pats on the back?? No, I'm 24 years old. I want to become part of the fraternity. Is this not a fraternity?? I want that bond , man.


The word you are trying to use here is spelled "reeks" and it is a poor choice as it means a "disagreeable fume or odor." I don't think the Marine Corps smells that way (although some Marines end up smelling that way after a few weeks in the field).

Wreaks means to inflict punishment or vengeance upon someone.

Stop with the rock and heavy metal and instead start reading non-fiction books about the English language, history, economics, etc. You don't have to be the dumbest guy guy in class either. The Marine Corps has a required reading list for all hands. You could start there.

giveen
08-31-09, 01:00 PM
I have very poor vision and got a waiver to enlist. Around my third year in, I put in a request to have LASIK done on my eyes, my CO signed me off as 3rd qual, which is basically second to the bottom on the list of priority. Year five rolls around, and I am getting out, still no surgery for me.

Infantry, I was told, are a higher priority than the comm field.

What I always found amusing was that my CO signed me off as near bottom of the list, and yet always on my pro/con sheet he always put the remarks that I need to improve my rifle score. Kinda hard to improve your score, when you can barely see the target at 500 yards.

CalahanD
08-31-09, 01:18 PM
Two things, got a buddy in the infantry who joined at 29...you arent too old. Second I got a buddy in the infantry, he is in my platoon and he has bad eyesight, take that back, I know alot of people in the infantry that wears glasses. That want hender you back at all. I do have to give one word of advice though, make sure you know what you are getting into. I am infantry and I love it. I am an 0331 and I am in love with my job, I love Machine Guns. On the other hand we had people that HATE the infantry beause it wasnt what they were expecting. Just make sure you know what you want to do and stay motivated.

giveen
08-31-09, 01:43 PM
I enjoyed my time in comm, but there were times I wish I was infantry. Major respect to all 03xx's

Waveslide
08-31-09, 01:49 PM
PRK and Lasik are waiverable. Wait list once your in is indeed very long and pilots, Seals, etc have priority. Oh and the Navy will fix that, not the Corps. Wearing contacts in the field is a huge risk for corneal ulcers!!! Don't do it, trust me(I'm now an eye tech)! One of my Marines nearly lost all of his eyesight from contacts in the field, and now he runs with the 1st Civ Div b/c of it, career cut short.
Its funny how you got ripped apart for grammar and the SGT is admitting to wearing contacts in the field against orders. Lead by example right? Navy doesn't only have Seals, they have someting even better- Corpsman!

Zulu 36
08-31-09, 02:27 PM
PRK and Lasik are waiverable. Wait list once your in is indeed very long and pilots, Seals, etc have priority. Oh and the Navy will fix that, not the Corps. Wearing contacts in the field is a huge risk for corneal ulcers!!! Don't do it, trust me(I'm now an eye tech)! One of my Marines nearly lost all of his eyesight from contacts in the field, and now he runs with the 1st Civ Div b/c of it, career cut short.
Its funny how you got ripped apart for grammar and the SGT is admitting to wearing contacts in the field against orders. Lead by example right? Navy doesn't only have Seals, they have someting even better- Corpsman!


I like to pick on people for poor grammar and spelling, especially when it is so egregious. Which sergeant are you talking about wearing contacts into the field? Damned sure wasn't me since I didn't need glasses (then).

0331 2 0369
08-31-09, 02:32 PM
Which sergeant are you talking about wearing contacts into the field?


He was busting Sgt Lep's balls on that one.

Waveslide
08-31-09, 04:14 PM
He was busting Sgt Lep's balls on that one.
Yep he's right. Just bustn balls, nothing personall.

Supersquishy
08-31-09, 04:19 PM
Wearing contacts in the field is a huge risk for corneal ulcers!!! Don't do it,
What are those?

What causes them?

GyC
08-31-09, 04:20 PM
I recently posted in a thread regarding Lasik or corrective surgeries prior to enlisting, they shouldn't be done unless absolutely necessary for your health and well-being... You could be disqualified for a lengthy period following any type of eye surgery, Lasik in particular is a year... There is no eyesight requirement for initial placement into the Infantry Field... Good Luck with speaking with a Recruiter... S/F

Waveslide
08-31-09, 04:46 PM
GyC you are somewhat correct. PRK and Lasik are "elective" surgery and there is never a "medical necessity"to have either one. Both forms are waiverable and unless you want to be a pilot or spec ops, there would be no contridiction to having it done prior to elisting. Check your job and its requirements first. I ran a large Lasik center and 2 close friends run the program at Camp Pendleton.
Bacterial (http://www.emedicinehealth.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=15038) infections cause corneal ulcers and are common in people who wear contact lenses (http://www.emedicinehealth.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=58810). To answer you squishy. Can lead to Corneal Transplant. Not good!

GyC
08-31-09, 05:25 PM
GyC you are somewhat correct. PRK and Lasik are "elective" surgery and there is never a "medical necessity"to have either one. Both forms are waiverable and unless you want to be a pilot or spec ops, there would be no contridiction to having it done prior to elisting. Check your job and its requirements first. I ran a large Lasik center and 2 close friends run the program at Camp Pendleton.
Bacterial (http://www.emedicinehealth.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=15038) infections cause corneal ulcers and are common in people who wear contact lenses (http://www.emedicinehealth.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=58810). To answer you squishy. Can lead to Corneal Transplant. Not good!

Doc, I'm speaking in terms of MEPS qualifications, not after the young lad is in... Hence, if it is not life threatening, and he wishes to enlist within a year, he shouldn't undergo that which might slow him down... Once he's in, Lasik is on the house anyway, so it's always an option during his time in the Corps... It is waiverable after the fact, but there is a waiting period subsequent to the surgery, for enlistment purposes... 6 mos to a year, depending on the doc at MEPS... S/F

Waveslide
08-31-09, 05:55 PM
Reference A is the Manual of the Medical Department (NAVMED P117).
Reference B is the Refractive Surgery Policy in the Navy and Marine Corps For New Accessions.
Reference C is the Photorefractive Keratectomy Policy for Diving Programs including Special Operations.
Reference D is the 1997 Navy Aeromedical Reference and Waiver Guide
Reference E is the DOD Physical Standards for Appointment, Enlistment and Induction.
POC is Capt. Charles. O. Barker, MC, MED-23B, Bureau of Medicine and Surgery, Washington, D.C.; (202) 762-3451; DSN 762
Background. Corneal refractive surgery is a surgical treatment for abnormal visual acuity. There are presently four surgical procedures: Radial Keratotomy (RK), Photorefractive Keratectomy (PRK), Laser in Situ Keratomileusis (LASIK), and Intra-Corneal Ring Implants (ICR). Civilian eye specialists are performing all procedures, but LASIK is currently the most common.
RK has been assessed by Navy ophthalmologists, who determined that RK does not produce stable visual correction in operational environments.
PRK involves no]n surgical incisions, but rather a series of fine laser ablations to re-sculpt the corneal. PRK has been extensively studied by the Navy and is currently the procedure of choice. Optimal results with PRK occur in a person who is at least 21 years old, has a stable refraction, mild to moderate nearsightedness or farsightedness and mild to moderate astigmatism.
The purpose of this message is to promulgate current corneal refractive surgery physical standards and waiver policies for active duty and reserve communities to include all new general accessions, undersea/diving/special warfare, for surface warfare, and for aviation warfare communities.
General Accessions. As indicated in Reference E, all forms of corneal refractive surgery are disqualifying for general Naval and Marine Corps duty. References (A) and (B) establish physical standards and waiver process guidelines for individuals applying for appointment, enlistment, and induction into the U.S. Navy and U.S. Marine Corps for active duty and reserves.
Corneal refractive surgery waiver requests are considered on a case by case basis. Waivers for RK will not be considered. Waivers for PRK and LASIK will be considered. Waiver requests for applicants to Special Duty communities (Undersea/Diving/Special Warfare, Surface Warfare, and Aviation Warfare) must be evaluated and recommended for approval by those communities.
Undersea/Diving/Special Warfare. Reference (C) is superseded by this message.
(1) Submarine duty: the following interim change to Chapter 15, article 15-69, paragraph (2)(B), of Reference (A) is effective immediately: (2)(B)(3) All forms of corneal surgery are disqualifying except for PRK and LASIK.
Candidates for entry into submarine duty must have a three-month waiting period following their most recent PRK or LASIK surgery prior to their qualifying examination for submarine duty. Return to full duty recommendations for personnel already qualified in submarines or assigned permanent duty to submarines will be considered when recommended by an ophthalmologist or optometrist and an undersea medical officer. Personnel must receive authorization from their commanding office prior to PRK or LASIK surgery. This provision does not pertain to new accessions to active or reserve duty who must comply with Reference B.
(2) Diving Special Warfare: The following interim change to Chapter 15, Article 15-66, paragraph (2)(C)(6) of Reference (A) is effective immediately:
(2)(C)(6) Excimer laser Photorefractive Keratectomy (PRK) is not disqualifying for Diving/Special Warfare duty. All other forms of corneal refractive surgery, including Radial Keratotomy(RK) and Laser in Situ Keratomileusis (LASIK), are disqualifying and waiver recommendations will normally not be considered.
Candidates for entry into Diving Duty, including Special Operations and Special Warfare, must have a three-month waiting period following their most recent corneal surgery prior to their qualifying examination. An ophthalmologist or optometrist and an undersea medical officer will determine when designated diving and special warfare personnel may return to full duty following corneal surgery. Personnel electing PRK must receive authorization from their commanding officer prior to the surgery. This provision does not pertain to new accessions to active duty, who must comply with reference (B).
(3) Surface warfare: All forms of corneal surgery are disqualifying except PRK and LASIK. Personnel must receive authorization from their commanding officer prior to corneal surgery.
Following corneal surgery, return to full duty recommendations will be considered for personnel being examined for surface warfare qualification, qualified surface warfare or assigned permanent duty when cleared by an ophthalmologist or optometrist and the ship's medical officer.
Sufficient post operative convalescent tie must have elapsed as evidenced by stable refractive error demonstrated by two separate examinations performed at least one month apart for this consideration to be made.
This provision does not pertain to new accessions to active duty who must comply with reference (B).
(4) Aviation Warfare. All forms of corneal surgery are disqualifying. PRK is the only procedure that will be considered for waiver. (A) air warfare new accession applicants having had PRK (civilians, NROTC, Naval Academy and enlisted accessions) may be waivered for aviation duty if they meet all the following criteria:
a. Accepted into a Navy-approved PRK study protocol for long-term follow-up
b. Pre-PRK refractive error was less than or equal to plus or minus 5.50 (total) diopters in any meridian with less than or equal to plus or minus 3.00 diopters of cylinder and anisometropia less than or equal to 3.50 diopters.
c. Civilian applicants must provide detailed pre-operative, operative, and post-operative PRK follow-up records prior to acceptance into a Navy approved PRK study.
d. At least three months have elapsed since surgery or re-treatment and evidence of stable refractive error is demonstrated by two separate examinations performed at least one month apart.
e. Meet all other applicant entrance criteria as delineated in references (A) and (D) and as specified by approved aviation PRK-study protocols.
Designated Naval aviation personnel (flying class one, flying class two, and class three designated enlisted aircrew and flight deck personnel), upon approval by their commanding officers, may seek acceptance into a Navy PRK aviation study protocol involving actual PRK surgery. A waiver to return to flight duties will be recommended if they meet all study requirements and all other physical standards as delineated in references (A) and (D).
Personnel electing the surgery must receive authorization from their commanding officer prior to the procedure.
For more information concerning corneal refractive surgery and PRK in the Navy/Marine Corps, go to http://navymedicine_dev/refractive_questions.htm (http://navymedicine_dev/refractive_questions.htm)
This might be a little dated. I am almost sure with the introduction of Intralase Laser(Laser that cuts the Lasik flap vs a metal blade microkeratome) that Lasik is approved for Seals and pilots, but has to be done by a Navy Doc vs civi MD.

Waveslide
08-31-09, 06:00 PM
Optometry Department
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What is the current policy on corneal refractive surgery for active duty Navy and USMC personnel in specific communities?

Service members who are contemplating application to various warfare communities (aviation, diving, etc.) should verify policies governing those communities before having surgery. Special Duty Requirements (https://cpen.med.navy.mil/data/dp/optometry/data/Special%20Duty%20Requirements.xls) contains tables that summarize PRK and LASIK policy for retention of service members in the various warfare communities within the Navy and Marine Corps.
USMC, Undersea (Submarine), Surface Warfare, SPECWARFARE and Diving: Both PRK and LASIK are authorized refractive surgery procedures. Neither PRK nor LASIK is disqualifying for retention, and no waiver process is required. New accessions must receive a waiver to enter active duty. All other forms of refractive surgery (i.e. RK, intracorneal rings, etc.) are disqualifying for retention.
Aviation: All forms of refractive surgery are disqualifying for accession and retention of personnel in Naval and Marine Corps aviation. For Class I and Class II aviation duty, only PRK and LASEK are authorized AND a waiver process is required. No other forms of refractive surgery will be considered for a waiver. Class III aviation personnel may have either PRK, LASEK or LASIK. A waiver is required to resume flight status. The aviation communities strongly support Navy PRK studies and have established the following criteria for waiver consideration:

1. Applicants (civilians, NROTC, and Naval Academy, and enlisted accessions) to air warfare who have had PRK may be waivered for aviation duty if they meet all of the following criteria:

Pre-surgery refractive error range is -8.00 to +6.00 total diopters sphere.
Civilian applicants must provide detailed pre-operative, operative, and post-operative follow-up records prior to acceptance into the Navy.
A minimum of three or six months (determined by preoperative refraction) have elapsed since surgery or re-treatment and evidence of stable refractive error is demonstrated by two separate examinations performed at least one month apart.
They meet all other applicant entrance criteria for aviation warfare, as outlined in the Manual of the Medical Department and the Navy Aeromediacl Reference and Waiver Guide.2. For active duty personnel already designated in Navy and Marine Corps Aviation (flying Class I, flying Class II and Class III-designated enlisted aircrew and flight deck personnel), waiver consideration for PRK must meet all of the following criteria. Waiver for Class III aviation personnel after LASIK must meet the same criteria. Refractive surgery performed in the civilian sector is not authorized (no waiver will be approved) for Class I and II aviation personnel.
The service member's request to have laser refractive surgery is approved by the Commanding Officer.
The service member meets the eligibility criteria required to qualify, and has completed and faxed the Aviation CRS Request form (consult) (https://cpen.med.navy.mil/data/dp/optometry/data/GeneralConsult.pdf) to San Diego and received endorsement.
A waiver to return to flight duties will be recommended if the servicemember meets post-op standards. Waiver may be requested as soon as 4 weeks after surgery if treated at a Navy refractive surgery center. If surgery is performed in a non-Navy DoD (Air Force or Army) refractive surgery center the waiver process cannot be initiated before 3 months. Post-op clearance (http://interdev:2005//nhcp.cfm?xid=wap&f=optometry&p=xC52A5162)
This is from Camp P and more acurate.

GyC
08-31-09, 08:01 PM
I'll try and post up a excerpt from the MEPS Medical handbook, but I have no doubt that an applciant is DQ'ed for a minimum 6 mos from the date of surgery... S/F

Petz
08-31-09, 08:04 PM
seeing as MEPs isn't AD OR Navy & Marine Corps specific... I'd say they operate by rules that cover the min reqs of all branches....