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Marine84
08-08-09, 11:25 AM
Flipping through the channels I hear a snippet about a new MCO saying no facebook/twitter/and other such sites. Any of you AD Marines know anything? Is it so?
TheJoker
08-08-09, 11:29 AM
They stopped everyone from using those sites on base years ago.
Are you talking about not allowing them overseas? While it sucks for the marine, we had incidents where the younger marines would leak out information they weren't supposed to on those kinds of sites and we had to ban them ourselves.
Email is better than snail mail however.
Marine84
08-08-09, 11:35 AM
Seems so....................
http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/stories/2009/08/03/daily64.html
Marine84
08-08-09, 11:41 AM
Interesting.
So you guys can do it, just not on base?
Marine84
08-08-09, 11:48 AM
What's the punishment for it if you get popped?
FistFu68
08-08-09, 11:57 AM
:p Satisfaction Guaranteed If "I" were 2 PoP You Beautiful :p :banana:
Marine84
08-08-09, 12:10 PM
Oh Jack :angel:
Isrowei
08-08-09, 12:16 PM
Kim, the MCO only addresses use on Official Marine Corps Networks (in this case NMCI). The policy has always not allowed the use of social networking sites on the NMCI network.
The MCO actually clarifies how a unit can gain an exception to the policy for official purposes (i.e. a unit Facebook page). Regular Joe Private has never been allowed to sit at his desk and surf MySpace and Facebook while he's supposed to be working, but now appropriate individuals within a command can be given special permission to develop and maintain Unit pages. There's a big difference.
The real stupidity of it is that the News media has jumped on it as a "the Marine Corps banned all Social Networking use" story which it is clearly not. Instead, they missed the whole "the Marine Corps is now allowing and encouraging units to develop official pages via established social networking sites."
Gotta hand it to them to pull a bad story out of a good one.
Lisa 23
08-08-09, 12:39 PM
I put this over in Chesty's Hooch a couple of days ago....
Pentagon reviews social networking on computers
http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87441
Marine84
08-08-09, 12:41 PM
OK, thanks Captain. Makes sense. I mean, even our system at work blocks certain sites. No biggie.
Marine84
08-08-09, 12:48 PM
Sorry, didn't catch that one LASWM.
I don't quite understand how the Marine Corps is just NOW getting publicity for this. They may have just recently made it official, but for the last couple years (at least) those sites have been banned.
GREY MATTER
08-08-09, 02:23 PM
What's the punishment for it if you get popped?
hopefully loss of a stripe.
after being out and coming back in i see too many Marines not caring about rules. i still get disgusted when i see people walking across the grass
LMAO...there's a MCO for grass walkers?
Ed Palmer
08-08-09, 02:41 PM
Semper Fi: Why the Marine Social Media Ban May Not Go Far Enough
Pajamas Media ^ | August 8 | Bob Owens
Posted on Saturday, August 08, 2009 1:59:17 PM by AJKauf
An immediate ban on commercial social media sites such as Facebook, Twitter, and MySpace went into effect for all Marine Corps personnel using the unclassified Marine Corps Enterprise Network (MCEN) NIPRNET this past Monday. This ban does not affect the personal use of social media by Marines on their own private computers or wired devices.
But perhaps it should.
The ban went into effect — according to the memo — because the “very nature of social networking sites creates a larger attack and exploitation window, exposes unnecessary information to adversaries and provides an easy conduit for information leakage.” The stated concern is that Marines accessing these open social networks from Marine Corps computers could expose the MCEN to security breaches and attacks that could threaten to disrupt or intercept Marine communications. Further, that information data-mined from social networks could also be used to compromise both operational security and personal security is also a possibility.
While this may be an accurate claim, MCEN security already effectively blocks social network access according to officials. The reason for the ban is to put a waiver system in place to grant access to Marines who may need specific access to social media sites to perform their duties. Examples of those exceptions would include the Marines that operate the USMC Twitter site, the Marine Corps Facebook site, and the Marine Corps MySpace site.
But if a ban on social media on official Marine computer systems is essential for hardening network security and limiting potential intrusion and infiltration, wouldn’t a complete ban including personal computers and wireless devices also make a great deal of sense?...
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/semper-fi-why-the-marine-social-media-ban-may-not-go-far-enough/
GREY MATTER
08-08-09, 03:01 PM
LMAO...there's a MCO for grass walkers?
its called respect for other peoples property.
the other thing that gets me going is seeing how people dress when going to the exchange/7day ect..ect...what happened to proper civilian attire?
i just want yo go up behind them and pull their fricken pants up and straighten their hats out.
its called respect for other peoples property.
Lol. Okay, who are the people that the property belongs to? Is it the Commandant? The American tax payers? The Marines? The lawn crews? Who is being disrespected?
It's grass!
The real reason is because if a bunch of Marine start walking in it, in the same place, they will eventually walk a dead path right through it, making it look like sh*t in the process. It has nothing to do with disrespecting anyone.
a m/gy/sgt that was talking to us here in the chat room sent me a e-mail said he could not get on the chat room from no on because of it he is a recuter in n,c that some of us know the capt does
GREY MATTER
08-08-09, 06:00 PM
Lol. Okay, who are the people that the property belongs to? Is it the Commandant? The American tax payers? The Marines? The lawn crews? Who is being disrespected?
It's grass!
The real reason is because if a bunch of Marine start walking in it, in the same place, they will eventually walk a dead path right through it, making it look like sh*t in the process. It has nothing to do with disrespecting anyone.
i bet you also think its okay to chew gum in uniform and walk and talk on a cell phone in uniform too dont you
let mess guess, you are still on your first enlistment, and are one of the people i am referring to
i bet you also think its okay to chew gum in uniform and walk and talk on a cell phone in uniform too dont you
let mess guess, you are still on your first enlistment, and are one of the people i am referring to
Nah, I don't like nasty. But not liking nasty ain't the same as saying that "nasty means disrespect".
I'm on my first enlistment, and I drive to where I need to go.
What does my first enlistment have to do with the absolute absurdity of your "Grass walking is disrespectful" post though? Walking in the grass is nasty because it kills the grass, not because it's disrespectful.
But wait, do I have to be a 11 year Sgt to recognize something like that?
LMAO...there's a MCO for grass walkers?
Only in the Marine Corps does walking on grass, kill it. How about install a sprinkler system or use fertilizer? Oh and 6 hours of a hose pouring water on dirt does not equal grass is going to grow.
Nah man, it can happen. I've seen it plenty times back home. Neighborhoods with people living on the corners...kids would cut through their grass as shortcuts...eventually after enough people constantly walking the same path through the gras, it DOES actually kill it.
But, is that disrespectful to a certain person? Certainly not...And it damn sure ain't something somebody should use a stripe over. Seriously, who in the hell would write papers on a Marine for walking in grass? That's a weak Marine at his core if you ask me.
I can understand a whole battalion walking through the same spot every day. But one Marine cutting through to get from his car to his room twice a day isn't going to do anything. The Corps cares about grass too damn much.
ssgtblue
08-08-09, 11:00 PM
Yeah, you cant go to alot of places on the NMCI network......
GREY MATTER
08-09-09, 12:57 AM
Nah, I don't like nasty. But not liking nasty ain't the same as saying that "nasty means disrespect".
I'm on my first enlistment, and I drive to where I need to go.
What does my first enlistment have to do with the absolute absurdity of your "Grass walking is disrespectful" post though? Walking in the grass is nasty because it kills the grass, not because it's disrespectful.
But wait, do I have to be a 11 year Sgt to recognize something like that?
it just goes to show it isnt the same marine corps, and fwiw, im on my 3rd enlistment yes, but i have also been out for a total of about 4 years since my first enlistment
So, you were in the Corps. Got out and...what, couldn't hack it? Or are you that Sergeant who calls Marines faggots and freak and humiliates them because it gets your dick hard and your civilian job fired you for having that "I'm a god" mentality?
Get back out, please. The Corps is fine the way it is.
Marine84
08-09-09, 05:12 AM
Matt - STFU! I can't wait til you get out and see how well you adjust to civilian life again. You make fun of but, it will happen to you too.
It's not that nobody can't "hack" anything.
it just goes to show it isnt the same marine corps, and fwiw, im on my 3rd enlistment yes, but i have also been out for a total of about 4 years since my first enlistment
No, it is the same Marine Corps. It's the Marines that have changed. Zombied thinkers aren't valued as much as yesteryear (I guess in your case "yesteryear" would mean 4 years ago, huh salt dog?). There's nothing wrong with being an independent thinker. If I feel like something is stupid, I'll make it known. Calling a grass walker disrespectful is stupid. Does that mean I'm going to go trample on the SMMC's lawn? Nope, I still follow all the traditions put in place before me, I'm just not so brainwashed or p*ssiefied that I'm afraid to speak on them.
There's way more important things going wrong in the Marine Corps for someone to be so "disgusted" by a Marine walking in grass that they think he/she should get busted down for it. But like I said, it takes a certain kind of Marine to even contemplate writing another Marine up for such a thing. And hopefully those type of Marines won't make the Marine Corps their career.
HurricaneRJ
08-09-09, 08:18 AM
Back on the topic.
Only the Marines who have government computers can't access those sites.
I'm in my room right now and since I pay the Iraqis for my internet I can do whatever I want. Also the SPAWAR-MWR still have access to it. Usually after 1800 here, the internet opened up to facebook, myspace, gmail etc but no longer now.
(someone please make a new thread about walking in the grass, be entertaining!)
The SDP is walking on the grass! Time to get my charge sheet!
Donut Brigade
08-09-09, 02:11 PM
LOL :D
1 Marine walking in grass is NJP able...80 Marines MARCHING in grass is MUTINY!!!!
it just goes to show it isnt the same marine corps, and fwiw, im on my 3rd enlistment yes, but i have also been out for a total of about 4 years since my first enlistment
I don't understand the problem... I never saw a sign that said don't walk on the grass before... that's a navy thing.
Marines just put the posts and rope up where they don't want a lot of Marines walking....
Donut Brigade
08-09-09, 02:59 PM
I wear a nicotine patch on my back. It's not CIF issue and quite stands out under NVGs. Do you think I could get away with it?
seriously DB... WTF are you talking about? haha
Donut Brigade
08-09-09, 03:20 PM
seriously DB... WTF are you talking about? haha
Once I wore a nicotine patch on my forearm during desert cammie inspection, and the Sgt that was inspecting me gave a five minute speech (no BS) how it is not safe to wear it because its shiny and visible in NVGs. That's the same bloke that made his Marines stand in attention when talking to him.
you should have patches in unseen areas... like your ass cheek... not a fore arm... and you should use common sense to not wear it during inspection.
as for the POA... that's how Marines used to get "spoken" to... it's just nice that it's parade rest.... which is basically the same thing, just not standing at POA... they both suck.
You know, the more I think about it, the more I realize why stupid rules are in place.
Like the no tattoos above the neck. Look. I know there's a Marine who's retarded and motivated enough to get USMC on his forehead, or Devil on one cheeck and Dog on the other. It all makes sense now. We're doing it to protect the dumb Marines. And the dumb Marines are the ones who enforce these rules because they can spot a dumb Marine better than the rest of us can. I know I never see Marines walking and talking, chewing gum, or putting their hands in their pockets. But somehow, that salt warrior does. It must take one to know one.
haha... though I know you are noticing it when it's not being done all stealthy and sh!t... you make a great point... it DOES take one to know one, or on the flip side, you've seen it all in a long career of kids... that constantly rotate back out into the world with new kids who think the senior enlisted haven't see it before and think they're slick.
GREY MATTER
08-10-09, 02:58 PM
So, you were in the Corps. Got out and...what, couldn't hack it? Or are you that Sergeant who calls Marines faggots and freak and humiliates them because it gets your dick hard and your civilian job fired you for having that "I'm a god" mentality?
Get back out, please. The Corps is fine the way it is.
i got out because i was in a motorcycle accident and broke everybone from the knee down, i never wanted out, they forced me out....and if you must know i took damn good care of my troops...and as far as my civilian job, i still have it as im only a reservist now, and i make damn good money
GREY MATTER
08-10-09, 03:00 PM
1 Marine walking in grass is NJP able...80 Marines MARCHING in grass is MUTINY!!!!
when did i ever say it was NJPable?
here's a hint boot....order the reading and comprehension mci
GREY MATTER
08-10-09, 03:02 PM
I don't understand the problem... I never saw a sign that said don't walk on the grass before... that's a navy thing.
Marines just put the posts and rope up where they don't want a lot of Marines walking....
do you not remember the days of getting your ass chewed for walking on the grass on any base? or have you not been in very long either?
i dare any of you to goto mcrd san diego and walk on the grass, i bet you have about 30 drill instructors attack you
...yea, that happened to me once...then I graduated from the MCRD.
I haven't been "attacked" by anyone since. And if anyone tried...well, I don't want to upset you more than you already are.
You know, it just hit me...the reason you see so much nastiness at your unit...and it has nothing to do with you being holierthanthou because you have more TIS than everyone in the Marine Corps.
Oh, funny story. I was at Edson Range practicing for a bit the week before the Marine Corps Shooting Competition. Drill Instructors ALLLLL OVER the place! We walked through so much grass for a solid week, damn Sgt, you would have been so disappointed. Would you believe not one of those Drill Instrutors "attacked" us? Hell, they even walked through some of it too.
But don't be too worried about it, they haven't been in as long as you either, so they aren't REAL Marines.
GREY MATTER
08-10-09, 03:27 PM
you need to check yourself.
you need to learn your place. you keep insinuating things about me and you know nothing.
i wish you were in my shop, cause a guarantee your life would be a living hell, especially they way you like to talk to senior nco's...my gunny would have a field day with you.
and fwiw, if i didnt have broken time id most likely be a gunny myself, but thats nobodies fault but my own. so keep trash talking, you are just making yourself out to be the the fake Marine.
i dont care how long someone has been in, i do care about Marines not doing the right thing.
You're right. My life would be hell. Luckily I'd never be in your shop. I like being Active Duty.
I would never talk to anyone ranked above me the way I'm TYPING to you. The difference is, this is the internet, and there's no reason for me to bite my tongue when stupidity is so bold right in front of me. If you were being stupid and I worked for you, I'd just suck it up till you worked for me.
How is it you say you don't care how long someone has been in, when every time someone posts something you disagree with your main rebuttal is "you must be new"?
Supersquishy
08-10-09, 03:35 PM
I think the rule was to keep Marines from ruining their spishined boots back in the day? I still look around to see if anyone is going to chew my ass whe I walk across any grass. To this day I still can't remember when they instilled in our memory banks to keep off the grass. Even in Yuma we got yelled at.
you need to check yourself.
you need to learn your place. you keep insinuating things about me and you know nothing.
i wish you were in my shop, cause a guarantee your life would be a living hell, especially they way you like to talk to senior nco's...my gunny would have a field day with you.
and fwiw, if i didnt have broken time id most likely be a gunny myself, but thats nobodies fault but my own. so keep trash talking, you are just making yourself out to be the the fake Marine.
i dont care how long someone has been in, i do care about Marines not doing the right thing.
do you not remember the days of getting your ass chewed for walking on the grass on any base? or have you not been in very long either?
i dare any of you to goto mcrd san diego and walk on the grass, i bet you have about 30 drill instructors attack you
you contradict yourself Sgt... and since this is in the open squad bay I'll leave you to respond to yourself.
Last time I looked I'm senior to you Sgt.
Isrowei
08-10-09, 04:28 PM
I think the universal rule of the Marine Corps is that everyone is "boot" to someone. And frankly, when you get to the point of whipping out "boot" as an insult, the argument is probably past any constructive point.
How about we talk about which beer is... "best"? Seems a bit more in keeping with out real "old Corps" roots. :beer: