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SlingerDun
05-26-09, 06:11 PM
Uncle left these items when he cashed in last December and other than the photos three of which say Goering 22 V. and one that says Goering 22 V. and Albatross D-5, I have no good refferences as to what the pin, (maybe gold plated but not solid) patch and medallions represent. The bracelet appears to be copper and suggests the obvious, but maybe more...
Anybody?
--->Dave
yanacek
05-26-09, 06:43 PM
Goering 22V is mostly likely a reference to Goering's 22 confirmed aerial kills (Victories) while he was serving with Jagdgeschwader 1 during World War I. The "D5" refers to one of the types of...
yanacek
05-26-09, 06:47 PM
The photo above the one marked "Albatross D-5" may be a photo of Goering and Richthofen (the Red Baron)--they flew in the same Jasta. Unfortunately, the photo is too small for me to clearly make out the faces.
That is still the patch worn by the german polezei (german police) today. It is not a military insignia as far as I know.
yanacek
05-26-09, 08:28 PM
That is still the patch worn by the german polezei (german police) today. It is not a military insignia as far as I know.
That's what I was thinking too. Does not have the flavor of a patch from the NSDAP (Nazi) era. If it is from before WW-II, perhaps it is from the Weimar Republic era?
SlingerDun
05-26-09, 11:09 PM
may be a photo of Goering and Richthofen (the Red Baron)--they flew in the same Jasta. Unfortunately, the photo is too small for me to clearly make out the faces.That would be a nice little trade nugget!
This is the only photo with two individuals and comparing faces with The Red Baron and Goering, both men resemble the driver more than the passenger, a senior officer i suppose?
Hell, neither of them matches the driver as much as Bulkyker does heheha:beer:
Thanks
~Dave
Crap .... I'm Irish .. maybe a krout was hiding in the wood pile ... that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
yanacek
05-27-09, 03:07 AM
The driver is definitely Goering. As for the other man, it does look to be Richthofen.
http://www.acepilots.com/wwi/goering.jpg
GOERING
http://www.jastaboelcke.de/images/Aces/m_v_richthofen/mvr-portrait02.jpg
RICHTHOFEN
SlingerDun
06-03-09, 02:38 PM
Ok well this is the word i got from a German collector on those photos:
Dave,
Second generation photos are worth very little. After they have been made from an original you really don't know if they are second generation or 122nd generation. I used to buy photos from the Imperial War Museum in England that were made from the original plates and they were selling them in the 90's (and I am sure they still are selling them). They might be worth a few bucks but they are not something that I can use. The man in the car is absolutely not MvR. It could be Bodenschotz the adjutant of Jasta 11 or as a long shot it could be Manfred's brother Lothar. The photo is most likely during the time when Goering was the commander of JG 1 which would have been June/July through the end of the war. Regards, Rittmeister