confused on MOS and other stuff

[cg03]

I signed for the MOS Air Delivery Specialist in Logistics. I was told that I could change it if I wanted to, so I've still been thinking about other jobs. My cousin who was a Marine was telling me that it was important to get an MOS that you can use the experience for another job when you get out of the Corps. For example, he said he went into the Infantry, but when he got out, the only job he could get based off of that experience was a cop. He told me that Intel is a good job because they get to do a bunch of cool stuff and they support the infantry in a cool way. And you can get a lot of jobs when you get out. He also said that most people in logistics basically just count boxes at the back of planes all day. The only thing about Intel is that it doesn't seem like a physically active job. I want a job that I would enjoy(isn't boring) is physically active, and get a good job with If I decided to
get out. so, I have no idea really on what job I want. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have asked my recruiter about different jobs, but he gives me kind of vague descriptions on the MOS's. I also considered Combat Engineering, but my MM score isn't high enough on the ASVAB and I was told I couldn't retake it.

[wrbones]

I deleted the last half of yer post as it was gonna cause trouble. You do that **** again, I'm gonna be all over ya. That's a ****ing promise, kid.


Now. Read the POOL-ee Hall and Marine Mentor forums like I told ya to. The answers yer lookin' for are in there.

[cg03]

sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. It was just an honest question. everything that I wrote down was some advice I was given on which routes to take in the Marine Corps and why. I just wanted a second opinion. and plus, I have looked on the forums, and have not seen much on this kind of question. But, I'll look again. thanks for the correction, I probably should've worded it a different way.

[wrbones]

Tact is a big word. You need to learn that one, big whip! :D The way that was worded was asking for a firefight. Flamewars and firefights are a zero tolerance deal here!

If ya had read the POOL-ee Hall and Marine Mentor forums, you would've seen that those questions were just asked and addressed ( again ) a few days ago. You ain't gonna **** nobody here! We're all over it. Honesty is the best policy. We're gonna think yer tryin' to screw with us if ya ain't up front and straight up and down with us. We don't play nice or fair when someone's screwin' with us.

We're here to help, but don't try ****in' with us in any way, shape or form. We've seen it all. ...and you ain't **** yet, 'cause you ain't got that Eagle, Globe and Anchor. We're here to help ya get it, but don't **** with us one little bit or yer down the road. We don't have time for it. Someone else will get the benefit of our knowledge and experience.

We DO want to see ya succeed, but ya gotta work with us, not against us.

[thedrifter]

It seems from your post that you are more interested in your life after the Corps.........With thoughts like that, you might not just make it as a Marine.........It takes Heart and Soul to become a Marine........Many have tried but few have made it as Marines........Get your priorities straight first.........No matter what MOS you are given it is for the Good of the Corps.........We are a team, we work as a team, eat, sleep and sh!t as a team.........To become a good Marine it takes TEAM WORK........Always remember there is no I in The Marine Corps......

The Drifter
:marine:

[Barrio_rat]

As far as a good MOS goes - I've heard no complaints from anyone who went into In Flight Missile Repair Technician. As a far as I know, job satisfactory was A-1!

[cg03]

First off, I am not trying to **** with anyone. Like I said, I was just asking an honest question. Secondly, I do want to become a Marine, that is my #1 priority. But, my questions on becoming a Marine have been answered a long time ago, and now I have questions about MOS and other stuff concerning life in the Corps (thus the reason why I don't ask questions on becoming a Marine that often). Since talking to other Marines, I have also thought about life after the Corps(IF I choose to get out after my first term) and it is important to pick an MOS that will give you good job experiences. That's all I meant. Recently, I've been thinking about long-term stuff, like where will I be in 10-20 years from now, so questions on choosing an MOS are very important right now. I know the Corps has needs, and I will serve the Corps the best I can, but I also need to think about what might happen afterwards. I don't want to make a wrong choice. hopefully, this comes across the way I intend it to.

[Barrio_rat]

Originally posted by cg03
it is important to pick an MOS that will give you good job experiences. That's all I meant. Recently, I've been thinking about long-term stuff, like where will I be in 10-20 years from now, so questions on choosing an MOS are very important right now. I know the Corps has needs, and I will serve the Corps the best I can, but I also need to think about what might happen afterwards. I don't want to make a wrong choice. hopefully, this comes across the way I intend it to.

Right - but wrong. You don't need to pick an MOS (job) that will further any civilian career - being a Marine furthers the civilian career. How did being a Marine help Walt Disney? was his MOS cartoonist? I doubt it. Or Johnathan Winters - MOS comedian? Again, while he did do some performances while it the service, it was not his MOS. You need to find an MOS that you think you might enjoy. Most don't directly carry over to the civilian world. Some do but often with modifications. The Military has less restrictions on it than the civilian world and, in some cases, more. Depends on what you are talking about and in what field. You need to find something that interests you. Once you've found that, the rest is cake - just do your best and cary on. When you get out, you'll find that most of the things you fall back on, you learned in Boot Camp and through leadership courses - not to mention the things that don't get put down on paper, such as leading men (and women), integrity, loyalty etc etc etc...

I understand where you are coming from, but even the most basic MOS's give you something to take with you to the civilian world.

[cg03]

Originally posted by Barrio_rat


Right - but wrong. You don't need to pick an MOS (job) that will further any civilian career - being a Marine furthers the civilian career. How did being a Marine help Walt Disney? was his MOS cartoonist? I doubt it. Or Johnathan Winters - MOS comedian? Again, while he did do some performances while it the service, it was not his MOS. You need to find an MOS that you think you might enjoy. Most don't directly carry over to the civilian world. Some do but often with modifications. The Military has less restrictions on it than the civilian world and, in some cases, more. Depends on what you are talking about and in what field. You need to find something that interests you. Once you've found that, the rest is cake - just do your best and cary on. When you get out, you'll find that most of the things you fall back on, you learned in Boot Camp and through leadership courses - not to mention the things that don't get put down on paper, such as leading men (and women), integrity, loyalty etc etc etc...

I understand where you are coming from, but even the most basic MOS's give you something to take with you to the civilian world.

Thanks for the advice. That does help out a lot. I recently talked to my cousin (who was a Marine), and he was concerned about my MOS that I currently signed for. He was tellling me about that whatever I pick, it should be useful in a civilian career if you choose to get out early. So, I was taking what he said into consideration. But, I'll also take what you say (or any other Marine) and use it too. Thanks.

[Kalbo]

Roger,

You took the words out of my mouth. I'm really sad about all this preparing for a job when you get of the Corps. For me it was an honor to serve with the Marines I served with. Hands down they are the finest people I have ever known, and feel priviliged to have had that experience. But I guess there of those who will never understand what the meaning of self sacrifice is.

Yeah, I had a tough time finding a job when I got out, but what the Marines did for my character will last me for the rest of my life.

Semper Fi
Bill "Kalbo" Long

[Sixguns]

Marines are successful regardless of MOS and training. The breed is unlike any other. Be a Marine and be good at it! The rest will take care of itself. If you were looking for a job, you obviously entered the wrong office. You must have been looking for an employment office! Our leadership traits and core values make us special and qualified for a lot of opportunities after our service. Think and choose wisely!

SIXGUNS

[jenrmurray]

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/marineenjobs/blmarineenjobs.htm. This site lists descriptions of all Military Occupational Specialties. It even tells you where the MOS school is located and, similar DOT career codes are listed for those concerned about the 'after-life.'

Like the others are saying: don't forget that you will be a Marine before anything else. A large part of why I chose the Marine Corps over the other branches was due to the lack of 'job chasers.' I just want to be a Marine, the job is secondary. Keep an open mind about your MOS, you never know what you may come to love.

And read more of this site!

[top1371]

Life after the Corps!?

My guess is that over half the Marines on this board are no longer active duty. Some are old enough to be my father :D I would believe that they/we are doing pretty good.

I did 21 years in the Corps, Combat Engineer as a primary MOS.

I am now a computer technician.

Top

[Echo_Four_Bravo]

I have just finished a college degree, am working on a second under grad degree, and will be going to law school in slightly over a year. None of this would be happening had I not enlisted in the Marine Corps, but nothing I did while on active duty really relates to what I am doing now, or will be doing in te future. it is what happens inside you that will allow you to be a success in the future, not what skills you learn. Leave the Army guys to be the ones looking for a specific skill to use later in life. What you will get in the Marine Corps, and nowhere else does not come from an MOS school. It will be burned into your heart at MCRD and will stay with you every day of your life.

[wrbones]

This oughta be good! Cook's in the House!

[Sparrowhawk]

Originally posted by cg03
my cousin who was a Marine was telling me that it was important to get an MOS that you can use the experience for another job when you get out of the Corps. For example, he said he went into the Infantry, but when he got out, the only job he could get based off of that experience was a cop. My MM score isn't high enough on the ASVAB and I was told I couldn't retake it.

So, what's wrong with being a cop? In being a Law Enforcement Officer?

That your ASVAB wasn't high enough, tells me the Corps might not even allow you to be a ammo humper.

Kid, you're going into the Corps for all the wrong reasons. Seems like you're more interested in getting out, before you get in.



:thumbdown

Good thing Bones was so gentle with you.

[wrbones]

Next...one of the five or six best POOL-ees we've ever had here.....


JC's turn is coming as well...



Aren't ya glad I deleted that other half of your post?

Ya see, cg, nobody's useless in the Corps. I'm using you as an example.

Just so ya know. Yer 'cuz' is probably screwin' with ya about half the time...either that, or yer not listenin'...which means that he would say to hell with it, and start screwin' with ya some...just not enough that the rest of the family would catch on.

[22DevilPup87]

I hope that you look at being a Marine as more than just having a job. MOS is Military Occupational Specialty. While I know I'm just a civvie, I like to believe that once a Marine I'll be living for My God, My Country, My Corps. That's not what a "job" is. I'm a young'un lifeguarding to cover a portion of my expenses and save up some money. That's a job, not being a United States Marine. I've never asked a Marine, "What is/was your job?" I've always worded it with MOS.

To me it looks as if you downgraded the importance of all logistic MOSs. Since when is any MOS less important than another in the Corps?

You signed a contract, making a commitment to the Marine Corps to serve to the best of your ability as an Air Delivery Specialist. If your intent isn't to do so you shouldn't have put your John Hancock on the dotted line.

Going into the Corps is about the needs of the Corps, at least that's what I understand. Your needs will be met but your wants will only be honored if they fall into the need of the Corps, again, from what I understand. Being a Marine will prepare you for the civilian workforce, I'd think, if you'd so choose to enter it. Your MOS may or may not do the same, but that's not the issue. A book can teach you how to perform a skill but only real life experience will teach you how to be a leader and ensure the task at hand is completed.

From the looks of it, you did little, if any, research on your own, and it shows. If you were to tell me otherwise I'd have reason to believe you were lying. The site at about.com that lists all the MOSs has been posted in the POOL-ee Hall several times. You don't even have to leave leatherneck.com to get the link! Hit the POOL-ee Hall, Marine Mentor Forum, the rest of the internet and the library. (Ya can't truthfully say that you've done all that to the fullest extent. There're a massive amount of threads on these forums and an outlandish amount of information at your local public library and spread all over the internet.) If you want to talk to real live Marines about their experiences talk to your recruiters and get in touch with your local VFW Association and WMA chapter.

Sparrowhawk is right ... you're lucky we've been gentle.

I don't like ignorance. I've seen some POOL-ees with a complete lack of respect, but many times that's because they never saw the example set. Respect can be learned. I've also seen some POOL-ees that didn't seem to know up from down, but that can be cured with a willingness to work. Ignorance, however, is purely within you.

Closing statements:
Being a police officer is very rewarding for many and a respectable and honorable career. The coolest teacher I've ever met is a state trooper. I also had the honor to run once with a former Marine that is presently a state trooper. Don't make the profession of law enforcement sound like it's not worthy.

Enlisting in the Marine Corps is about being a Marine, not a civilian. Focus on your life as a Marine if that's what you want. Otherwise, stay a civvie.

[JChristin]

cg03

I understand your reasoning, HOWEVER, becoming a member of the greatest military branch since the conception of Rome and earning the title: United States Marine will further any career aspirations you may have for life after the Marine Corps.

You asked Marines for input, then continued to act rather - disrespectful. WE are different from any other branch of any military any where in the world. You are addressing United States Marines - learn respect. Respect for the title and for what it stands for, and the people who create the blood that flows through our veins - for in the final analysis, we are one. We are the force that other military branches shiver when we approach.

About the future: When I submit my resume and upon an interview I am always asked, "You were a Marine?" They find it difficult to comprehend that a woman who doesn't resemble King Kong would or could be a United States Marine. They never ask what I did in the Marine Corps (4211). They are always so impressed by the mere mention of the United States Marine Corps. That is what will open more doors, impress more potential employers, as it will show that you have the leadership skills and self-displine to handle any situation at anytime under any condition and meet any cause.

Oh ya, did cousin mention the wonderful VA benefits for education during and after your term of service - provided you earn a Honorable Discharge? The advantages of the Federal VA Home Loan with Zero Down, or the wonderful VA Medical Care that follows?

Don't tangle with Sgt. Bones. He's doesn't handle fools too well. Show respect and he's you're greatest buddy. He earned his title.

But the greatest benefit is this, the title: United States Marine.
It says it all.

semper fi,
jchristin

[Semper_Marine]

When I enlisted a year ago, I thought little about life after the Corps. I'm in Artillery with L Btry 3/12 in 29 palms now and enjoy every minute of my job. I believe that one needs to first realize that this is a 4 year minimum deal. Let me ask, if your job is fun, is it work, or are you getting paid to have fun?? Personally, I think I get paid for having fun more than actually "working" for my pay. What I mean is, I enjoy shooting the biggest guns in the Corps and blowing stuff up. If you pick a job you like/enjoy, the 4 years goes by faster and before you know it, you're thinking about reenlistment. With the GI Bill I hope to go to tech school for Fire Protection Technology, that's fairly high paying in the civ world. THE POINT is: pick a job you'll enjoy, the GI Bill will help you get an education for a civ job later.
Semper Fi pup,
Semper_Marine

[wrbones]

Welcome Aboard, Semper_Marine! The more I think of your post, the funnier it gets!..." I enjoy shooting the biggest guns in the Corps and blowing stuff up."

I keep telling people that grunts get paid to go hiking and camping and they get to blow stuff up!

Now that they've heard from you, maybe they'll believe me!

Don't forget the free helicopter rides and plane trips and cruises!

[22DevilPup87]

But -I- want to go hiking and camping and blow stuff up!

On behalf of the POOL-ees:
Welcome, and thanks for spending some time around the POOL-ee forum. We love hearing from Marines, and it's oh-so motivatin' to hear from a "new" Marine ... and you can relay current information to us about the present-day Corps which is always great.

[CrazyBrave83]

I'm basically going to repeat what everyone else has already gone over. In the Marine Corps, there is no 'worthless' job. Every job exists for a reason. Look at it like this. The Marine Corps is first and foremost an Infantry Driven branch of the military. The other jobs support the boys on the ground. Without even ONE...ONE of the jobs, the Marine Corps would not be the Corps it is today. Don't fret with all the 'after' stuff. If we could always plan for what we'd do 'after' things life would be stale and boring. Just go with what you feel will make your time in the Corps more enjoyable, but go because you want to be a Marine, not because you want to be something upon your discharge. The title speaks in spades, Cg...and so does the way you carry yourself. If they see you were an undeniable team player with good skills, I'm sure regardless of your MOS someone will hire you. So Don't worry. just go in and do the Corps proud!

By the way...it behooves you to listen to all the Marines in these forums. They're some of the smartest and most gung-ho people I've ever met. Watch your step, and listen listen listen. because if you listen...you will learn.

Best of luck.

[Sgt Sostand]

Remember 0300 can do anything i mean anything

[CPLRapoza]

cg

Guess what, where not done yet!!! My primary MOS is 0311. Just like Sgt. Bones said, we get paid to hike along the far streches of Gods wonderful planet, camp in some of the most exoctic places on Earth, shoot the best weapons known to man, kill when called upon to do so, blow **** up when funding is there and get drunk when were done. Never worry about the Civ. Div. till your time comes to join there ranks. While your a Marine the only thing on your mind is to think of ways to improve yourself as a Marine. Also you don't need a physically demanding job to make way in the Corp. At this present time I'm an MSG and this is probally the least most physically demanding job in the Corps, you can stay physically in demand on your spare time, whenever you get it. Whether you like what your doing or not is irrelivant, you signed on for how everlong your enlistment is, and you better make the best of it. Cause if that's one thing I hate is a "False Marine" (someone who has no motivation towards the Corps and bad mouths it everyday of the week cause they didn't get what they wanted.) Known as the 10%. They are Marines by title, not by nature. You seem to be on the road to becoming this individual, and if you are get out know because we don't want you here!!! But I will not judge you yet, cause I don't know you. Just do your job to the best of your ability and when the TIME COMES for you to get out, decide what you want to do then, but in the mean time, Learn as much as you can and try to be the best at everything you do.

[richgitz]

It sounds like this young man wants his cake and eat it too.
I sure hope he can keep his thoughts and mouth shut in Boot
Camp. Boy! The DI'S are going to have a ball with you. I can
assure you you'll be Sh****g Marine Corps Green when they
get done with you.:mad:

[gigagrunt]

Well, in efforts not to judge this new kid right off and condemn him ..... I am going to just dismiss his theories on the Corps and just offer this little piece of advice regarding the PT portion of his MOS question ...... PT is exactly what you make of it because no matter how much somebody else pushes you, you will never be as good as you can be if you don't want it.... the ones who are in good shape is not just b/c of their MOS -- anybody can PT 2 or 3 times a day ..... not just the grunts, it's about a commitment to yourself and to being the best Marine you can possibly be(which includes being in shape)..........Also - just being a Marine will give you unparalleled experience in the intangible things in this life such as commitment, self discipline and leadership. You get paid to be a part of the biggest and most respected Family of world renown fighting machines ever known. It's definitely not for everybody but if you wanna be a part of this team it does not matter what your position is ......... Just being a Marine is an honor in itself ------ Take a little time and think about your priorities!

[Sixguns]

I love it when the moderator can sit back and watch the action!!!

SIXGUNS

[firstsgtmike]

cg03,

I have read all of the posts here responding to your question. Although many of them were coming in from different angles, I believe the target was completely covered.

I found nothing that I would disagree with.

I wrote the following in response to another poolee's question.

At first glance, it may appear that it has nothing to do with your question. But I think it fits in with many other posts that offered you advice here.

Put them all together, understand what has been said, and you will be miles ahead of those of us who became Marines without the benefits this forum has offered to all of you.

quote
"The Marine Corps is NOT a union shop. My father worked for a union shop. If he needed to move some wood debris, he had to wait for a carpenter to show up. If it was discarded wire, he had to wait for an electrician. There were days he got absolutely nothing done, waiting for the various union tradesman to come back and clean up after themselves.

The Marine Corps is NOT a union shop. I have never seen an instance where someone would come up to a peer group member and say, "let me help you with that" and be turned away.

What do you want to know? What do you want to learn? If someone knows how and is doing it, you can help (and learn).

I was Radio Chief, 1st Bn, 8th Marines providing radio communications to the four infantry companies. I heard a strange voice on one of my radios sent out with one of the companies. I questioned my operator. One of the infantrymen offered to carry the radio.

A short while later, I noticed a strange face in classes I was giving to my platoon, and working to clean gear returning from the field. Same infantryman. I talked to his CO and he was transferred to my radio platoon. Some time later, I was approached by the message center chief. Same kid, helping (and learning) in message center. O.K. transfer to message center. They sent him off to school. Long story short, last I heard from him, he was working for IBM in computers. (That was 1965. He MAY own the company by now.)

Thank God for a non-union shop. I'll admit I took advantage of the opportunities for 20 years. Shortly after I retired, I saw a long list of jobs and job descriptions. From that list, there were 203 jobs that I had a familarity with, and MANY that I could have applied for, if I had the right credentials. (If I had wanted one, I would have asked if they wanted someone with the job experience or the paper experience.)

I don't think that's too bad for a punk kid thrown out of four high schools because of my superior intelligence. At least I think that's what they meant when they told me to hit the road because I was too much of a wiseass."
---------------
cg,

You've had it all spelled out for you. Now just learn how to read.

If I had what is available to you guys here, I might have retired as Emperor of the World. But I was satisfied to exceed my high school teacher's expectations.

As far as the posts go; Read and Heed! None of us have an axe to grind, none of us have an ulterior motive. We are merely faceless names on a website.

We give, we offer, we share, because we care. Because we are Marines, we don't have any other choice.

I've never heard a winner make excuses. I've never heard a Marine apologize for caring.

Your cousin says he "was" a Marine. I guess that puts a true value on his opinions and comments. Those who visit here "are" Marines, or soon to be, or wannabees.

"Was" Marines don't last long here.

Read the posts. All of them. And if you can't figure it out by then, you've got a bigger problem than any Drill Instructor is equipped to handle.

[gemntx]

I love SNCO's and NCO's

cg03 take a step back and gather your thoughts. As many of the fine Marines have posted here, you only have to worry about one MOS...MARINE! Earn that one and everything else will take care of itself. If you have what it takes to become a Marine, you have what it takes to succeed in whatever profession you may chose. Quit worrying about a four numeral designation and prepare yourself mentally and physically to earn the title.

[CPLRapoza]

Gentlemen, I think we scared him away:banana:

[leroy8541]

cool!!!

[cg03]

I was away for awhile and have not been online in a couple of days. First off, when I decided I wanted to become a Marine, I had NO IDEA what MOS I wanted. So, I don't like it when people start saying " your joining for the wrong reason". Well, if I wanted to join for just a job, I would've joined the Army. Secondly, all I did was state what one Marine said to me, and wanted a second opinion. Well, I did get it. I do appreciate the information I have gotten. And I will never post this type question again, especially if it is a long question, because too many people misunderstand. It's harder to really understand initially what someone is trying to say on a forum than if you're talking in person. By the way, I have been doing some research (and I'm not lying), and I haven't found much, but I looked again and found other stuff. And I was not being rude. I even said sorry if I offended anyone. I was just stating what I thought was true. And, I never said that being a cop was unhonorable. It is honorable. My cousin was just telling me I guess, that he didn't have many jobs to choose from when he got out. The whole point of this question was "what might happen IF i decide to get out after 4 years?" which I'm not planning to do, but sometimes it's good to know these things. That was the whole point, not to be disrespectful, not to **** with anyone, not because all I want is some job. I can't stand it when people misunderstand what I say, but then again, I probably worded the question wrong to begin with. but anyways, thanks for the input.

[22DevilPup87]

cg03,
People say what they want to be heard.

Things do get misunderstood around here, and really anywhere, internet or "real life", but re-read your post and maybe you'll understand where we're coming from.

You can make it. Lots of people have made the transformation before you.

... just try to listen a little more and defend a little less. Most of us have been in your shoes before. No wannabe I've met has come to Leatherneck knowing the ropes. They have to be learned.

[Echo_Four_Bravo]

OK, first I will tackle your concern. Your cousin is having a hard time finding a job, as are many people. This has very little to do with his MOS while in the Marine Corps, and a great deal to do with the current economy in the US. Jobs aren't being created, the people with jobs are holding on to them, meaning that it is difficult to find a new job for everyone. Marines of all MOS's are getting out and looking for jobs. They are competing against people with advanced degrees and many years of experience. It doesn't matter what MOS the Marine held, they are less qualified than other people out there. But, the very title of Marine can help. There is a certain amount of awe and respect attached to that word, and it can mean the difference. You just have to give it time.
Now, on to something a little more pressing. I do not appreciate your attitude of superiority on this site. For the most part, the men and women on this forum have forgotten much more about the Marine Corps than you are capable of knowing. The wealth of knowledge here is unbelievable. Rather than making comments about how you can't stand to be misunderstood, how about taking the time to type out exactly what you want to say. Leave no question as to your meaning, and make yourpoint clearly. Your post leads me to believe that you think you are smarter than the average person on this board. I will assure you that you are incorrect in your thinking. There are those with many, many years in the Marine Corps, others with college degrees, and even some with both. There are Marines here from every walk of life, from corporate America to seasoned combat vets. You have a long way to go if you want to even be thought of with these men and women!

[btrogu]

Lets earn the title first and see what happens after. The way it sounds you have 4 1/2 to 5 years before or if you choose to leave the Corps. A lot will happen from now. Try to learn as much as you can from everyone on this site, they will lead you in the right direction. When you earn the title, you will be part of a team. So drop the IIIIII' S
SEMPER FI and good luck.

[Sixguns]

Becoming a Marine is a series of steps. One begins with becoming aware that there is a thing called the Marine Corps. Then research is conducted, either by using sites like this, recruiting pamphlets and brochures or by actually talking to a recruiter. Then comes compare (for those that think the other services offer more money and programs than the USMC) and later choose and enlist.

I'm sure when you met with your recruiter the conversation and interview centered around recruit training, the benefits of being a Marine and becoming successful for life. I'm sure college money, jobs and travel may have been a smaller part of the meeting. Remember this.... An MOS does not have to be for ever. You can change during your career. The title MARINE IS forever. I think this is why most people are making sure you understand that regardless of your MOS, being a Marine will separate you from the average Joe. Employers hire Marines because of their work ethic, reputation and drive and determination. Things not found in a lot of folks outside our institution. I can train anyone to do a job, I can't train everyone to have things like honor, courage and commitment. Think about it and reflect on all that has been said.

SIXGUNS

[leroy8541]

Just ask your recruiter for the list that tells how may Marines are in the fortune 500. You will be suprised!! Walt Disney, The Owner/founder of Papa Johns, you can be assuured that they weren't cartoonist or pizza makers during their hitch with Mother Green and her fighting machine! You have to learn how to conduct yourself a human f***ing being first, a little self respect ,tact and motivating drive that the Marine Corps will instill into a weak young mind and body will go a long way in the civilian world. They will see it and respect it in the way that we walk, talk, and go about our daily life. No matter what your job was in the Corps, You ask a person from the Army "What did you do?" The answer will be his job motor-t, infantry, airborne, etc, You ask a Marine what he did the answer is always the same "I am a Marine!! NUFF SAID!!

[Namvet67]

Got to looking around some of the older posts and found this thread. Thought some of the wannabes and gonnabes might enjoy reading some of this. We are still saying the same thing in 2005. Good post by the Major and all the others. gbudd

[Welbaum]

...I guess cg03 never came back to tell us if he made it...

EDIT:fixed my grammatical errors