Unit Award Information

[SSgt Ramsey]

This is a good website to research/verify Unit Awards you are or may be entitled to:

https://www.manpower.usmc.mil/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/M_RA_HOME/MM/MA/MM_MMMA_REFERENCES/NAVMC%202922%20DTD%2015OCT08.PDF

CAR/HSM Database:
https://www.manpower.usmc.mil/pls/apex/f?p=102:1:1092094926260690

I recently found out that I rate not only 1, but 2 HSM's....which was news to me...so, verify verify verify your Unit Awards Marine's.

[groundhog 2]

Sgt Ramsey, I know what you mean about the sheep, I' from Fargo, Ha I was in Marine Wing Service Group-17 '63-'64 Iwakuni, JP. It was re-designated Marine Wing Support Group, in 1966 and sent to Danang and awarded the PUC at that time. Am I qualified to wear that ribbon or did I have to belong at the time of award. Sounds stupid but I don't know when the determination started or even if it matters.Thanks

[echo3oscar1833]

Sgt Ramsey, I know what you mean about the sheep, I' from Fargo, Ha I was in Marine Wing Service Group-17 '63-'64 Iwakuni, JP. It was re-designated Marine Wing Support Group, in 1966 and sent to Danang and awarded the PUC at that time. Am I qualified to wear that ribbon or did I have to belong at the time of award. Sounds stupid but I don't know when the determination started or even if it matters.Thanks

More or less I was always under the assumption that any person rated the unit award that was present, or attached to the unit at said dates for the unit award. Unless it was specifically stated in a MarAdmin that only certian Units and Personnel rated said Unit Award. For example my Battalion was award the Presidential Unit Citation for its actions in Iraq, while attached to I MEF. However it was strictly stated that rear parties/personnel that didn't deploy could not wear the award. However I know of several guys that never deployed that were awarded the PUC, and wore it on there uniform. I was out after it was awarded never pushed the issue with it, to try and get it since i didn't deploy, never felt I rated it.:marine:

[SSgt Ramsey]

It's frustrating researching operations etc. that you were in, or going through line-by-line in the Unit Awards roster to find awards you rate but were never awarded. <br />
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I'm still finding stuff out...

[DocGreek]

SAM....do you have a copy of your 201 file?? How about After Action Reports?? OR....maybe a Company diary? I got mine...ALL copies, BUT.....some dates were missing in my 201, and AAR'S! 40 years time passed, and some things just "went missing"....wherever that is! Good luck!.....DOC

[390 Mach I]

This is a good website to research/verify Unit Awards you are or may be entitled to:

https://www.manpower.usmc.mil/pls/portal/docs/PAGE/M_RA_HOME/MM/MA/MM_MMMA_REFERENCES/NAVMC%202922%20DTD%2015OCT08.PDF

CAR/HSM Database:
https://www.manpower.usmc.mil/pls/apex/f?p=102:1:1092094926260690

I recently found out that I rate not only 1, but 2 HSM's....which was news to me...so, verify verify verify your Unit Awards Marine's.


Hey there SSgt, I can't get those links to work...
Is there an update URL?

[390 Mach I]

It is a security certificate issue...
anyways.. I found this:

http://www.marines.mil/news/publications/Documents/NAVMC%202922%204%20APR%2008.pdf

[390 Mach I]

and this:

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134833m.pdf

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: Yo S/SGT.when you get your awards straightened out with the higher up's see if they can issue You an enlisted Marines NCO Sword that Mameluke Thrust Officer Sword just ain't getting it.You'r outta Uniform Marine :beer: :iwo:

[SSgt Ramsey]

Sorry Brother Fist...it was the best I could do on short notice with a signature...now that my awards aren't complete, I'm gonna wait for a while until they are....

I have 3 to track down: a star on my HSM, the Navy Battle "E" ribbon, and lastly my CAR from 97' and Silver Wake....

The CAR/HSM database maintained by HQMC is showing me as rating 2, 1 of which I was not aware of, and only 1 mentioned on my DD-214 and MOL....weird....but that shouldn't be a biggie.

The Navy E shouldn't be too bad...I printed off the USS Nassau's unit-award history, I have a pic of me and name from the LF6F 96-97 cruisebook, I'm in the process of getting my pay records during this time to show I was part of ships platoon. It should just be administrative and sign off on it.

The CAR is in the works with my old OIC to submit through the electronic awards system to HQMC. Once he submits it, HQMC verifies that I was a member of Silver Wake, and that I got the AFEM (which I did), and it will be issued retroactively to me.

Hopefully 1 DD-215 can ammend my DD-2314 to keep it simple....I had so little time to punch out after my Med Board came back as TDRL w/60% disability...I couldn't sell any more leave back and I had like 80 days on the books....so I went on Term Lv in May with a retirement date of 1 July 07.

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: Like tha way you handled it S/Sgt!!! Chit you get any more decorations we gonna have 2 hold up up w/a cherry picker(lol)S/F :beer: :iwo:

[SSgt Ramsey]

LOL...

Well, thank you my Brother...truly appreciated, yet not warranted on my part....I have relatively little compared to many, my contributions were few.

I stand in awe, pride, respect, and humility at our young Marine's in harms way now. They are our legacy.

I had but a small part to play....and even smaller combat expedition history than most of these guys now...they have multiple tours to Iraq and Afghanistan with little rest for the weary between deployments.

These people are my hero's....

[390 Mach I]

Oh pulleasse!
When has a 'Staff' NCO EVER apologized to an non-NCO?
SSgt, just tell him that the 'sig' you are using is all that is available on Militarysignatures.com and be done with it.
Don't suck his ass cuz your 'sig' has the wrong sword!
WTF???

btw: I hope my links are more helpfull than yours

[SSgt Ramsey]

Cpl....and I'm trying to not lose my mind here....

Fist wasn't disrespectful, technically I am in the wrong, regardless of what choices I did or didn't have....I didn't apologize to Fist....explained perhaps....that's about the extent of it....I have to admit, I wish they did have more Marine choices there.

I see no reason to blatantly disrespect another Marine because of their rank or status. I don't get off on slamming somebody unless they truly deserve it, regardless of rank.

[DocGreek]

GENTLEMEN....you've got me giggling so hard, I spilled my coffee down my Santa Clause BELLY!!! WOW!! That SH!T was HOOOOTTTTT!!!!! TRUST ME!!...FIST is one of the GOOD GUY'S!!!.....I bet he's laughing...TOO!! Just pass the pipe around...again!....DOC

[390 Mach I]

Cpl....and I'm trying to not lose my mind here....

Fist wasn't disrespectful, technically I am in the wrong, regardless of what choices I did or didn't have....I didn't apologize to Fist....explained perhaps....that's about the extent of it....I have to admit, I wish they did have more Marine choices there.

I see no reason to blatantly disrespect another Marine because of their rank or status. I don't get off on slamming somebody unless they truly deserve it, regardless of rank.

Yeah, my bad SSgt... I went a wee bit overboard...

I had some vodka venom in me earlier.

Looking back at my post I was out of line.

My apologies.

[Alisium]

Great info SSgt.

Just found a star for my MUC.

[SSgt Ramsey]

Great info SSgt.

Just found a star for my MUC.

No problem at all my little Brother.....

Most of the time, unit and campaign awards are authorized much later than the actual operation concludes.....Silver Wake ended in 97', the first message I can find authorizing the CAR was in 00'.

It gets worse if you were a part of a MEU with different units committed to the entity involved. After you get home, people scatter to the 4-winds....some EAS, some PCS, and reachback is not always possible nor realistic, which is what happened in my circumstance with the 26th MEU.

I was technically with MWSS-274, put on the Detachment at the last minute, then AdCon to HMM-365 for the MEU.....once on board ship for the blue/green water ex, SOC ex, and actual deployment Ships Company working for Combat Cargo.

You'd think that I woulda kept up with the message traffic, but that wasn't possible....I kept on deploying, then became a Career Planner, and just didnt' have time. With increased knowledge came increased responsibility consuming more and more of my time. I'm an overachiever by nature.

[FistFu68]

:D ROFLMFAO,Heres 2Ya @ the All Americans in harms way S/Sgt.as 4 you Mach whatever I'll be seeing Your Boot Butt,back behind tha Barn now!!!:scared: :beer:

[390 Mach I]

ROFLMFAO,Heres 2Ya @ the All Americans in harms way S/Sgt.as 4 you Mach whatever I'll be seeing Your Boot Butt,back behind tha Barn now!!!

As long as we can go have a :beer: afterwards. ;) :p

To quote one of my favorite characters of all time:

"I'm your Huckleberry."

Anyways, I hope the links I provided help some of you guys out.
I noticed that one of them is the same as what SSgt posted but for some reason his links give me security warnings.
/shrug


P.S. I had to remove the smileys in the quote as the image limit wouldn't let me keep them.

[Caesar Augustus]

Anyone have a list of all awards given to 2/2 when we were apart of task force 2/2 from 05-06. As well as who I would need to contact about getting my CAR added as I rate it as I was in several situations which would warrant it.

S/F

[giveen]

The way I interpet this maradmin, I should be getting a NUC, since I was part of MAG-13 HQ at that time. Correct me someone, if I am wrong
http://www.marines.mil/news/messages/Pages/MARADMIN0250-09.aspx

[MGySgtSki]

No problem at all my little Brother.....

Most of the time, unit and campaign awards are authorized much later than the actual operation concludes.....Silver Wake ended in 97', the first message I can find authorizing the CAR was in 00'.

It gets worse if you were a part of a MEU with different units committed to the entity involved. After you get home, people scatter to the 4-winds....some EAS, some PCS, and reachback is not always possible nor realistic, which is what happened in my circumstance with the 26th MEU.

I was technically with MWSS-274, put on the Detachment at the last minute, then AdCon to HMM-365 for the MEU.....once on board ship for the blue/green water ex, SOC ex, and actual deployment Ships Company working for Combat Cargo.

You'd think that I woulda kept up with the message traffic, but that wasn't possible....I kept on deploying, then became a Career Planner, and just didnt' have time. With increased knowledge came increased responsibility consuming more and more of my time. I'm an overachiever by nature.

I'm a bit confused here. Are you saying you rate a CAR for time you were assigned to Combat Cargo?

[MGySgtSki]

Anyone have a list of all awards given to 2/2 when we were apart of task force 2/2 from 05-06. As well as who I would need to contact about getting my CAR added as I rate it as I was in several situations which would warrant it.

S/F

The CAR is written up somewhat like other personal awards. Your PltCmdr/OIC/etc from the time should be able to write up your "verification" statement and request for the CAR if you are able to contact them.

[Caesar Augustus]

I've been trying to find out if the rumor we heard about getting a PUC were true. I was with 2/2 back in 05-06 but everything I find on our deployment or the next one never mentions awards.

The website listed up top of this thread always gives me a 404 error.