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Shippingsoon
01-30-09, 02:57 PM
Hi All,

Thanks to the advice I received on this site, I’ve decided that it's well worth waiting until June for the 02xx MOS category. I've been prepping for boot for a few weeks now, and since I know the amount of time before I ship, I'm ramping up my PT. Please let me know what you think of this schedule:

Monday, Thursday, Saturday
Pullups - 3 sets (set 1 - 15, set 2 - 15, set 3 - as close to 15 as I can)
Situps - 4 sets (3 sets of 60, final set of 40)
Pushups - 3 sets (3 sets of 50)
Side bends with weights - 3 sets (15-20 dips per set with 80lb dumbell for dip)
2 mile "march" with 80 pound pack
3 mile unweighted run

Wednesday & Friday
3 mile "march" with 80 pound pack
5 mile unweighted run on Wednesday, 8 miles on Friday.

Sunday
Rest!

I welcome any comments or recommendations for alterations to this schedule, as I'm looking to do whatever I can to be as prepared as a civilian can be for boot camp.
Thanks!

Joe

Edit:
I do my marches in temperate-weather infantry boots and my runs in running shoes. Should I be doing this differently?

NoRemorse
01-30-09, 03:00 PM
Have you DEP'd in yet? I see your status as Marine Friend.

Alterations? Find a playground: TRUST ME. Monkey bars, swings, all that good stuff.

Get at least seven hours sleep. Early to bed and early to rise. Eat wholesome too. Reduces the "forming day runs" which go well into training days.

Shippingsoon
01-30-09, 03:10 PM
Not officially. Forgive me if I say something ignorant here:

I've taken the ASVAB, followed by the MEPS "exams" and will be taking the DLAB on Monday. My recruiter has a "spot" for me for a June boot camp ship date based on my desire to go Intel. He suspects one might open up sooner, but he can't promise anything.

NoRemorse
01-30-09, 03:17 PM
Well that was carefully worded. The DLAB, as you should already know, can't be studied for. A good character; honest family and friends; and a good work history help immensely for the security clearance.

Remember to go over that contract with a fine toothed comb if you're really set on that particular field. If it ain't in your contract then you're going where the needs of the Marine Corps dictate. Be ready to live at a moment's notice if a spot opens up early. Square away your trash now.

Find a playground like I said. We used to go out and practice moving our bodies through space around a series of obstacles. This was called "play" or "recess". Doesn't happen that often nowadays.

Shippingsoon
01-30-09, 03:24 PM
Thanks!

I'm probably going to stop by my Recruiter's Office this afternoon to see if I can get that MOS squared away into my contract. I think that I may have an open contract at the moment. I have a clean past, excellent references and a good work history. Neither he nor I anticipate problems with my ability to get a clearance. He's been extremely supportive and helpful. I tested very well on the ASVAB (97) and have always been able to grasp lingusitics fairly easily in the past, so I hope I do equally well on the DLAB.

Did I mention that I'm excited?

SlingerDun
01-30-09, 03:59 PM
Hi AllYes hello
2 mile "march" with 80 pound pack....3 mile "march" with 80 pound packWhats the deal with 80 lbs is it 1/2 your body weight or some other magic number? I wouldn't force a dishonest mule to pack 1/2 it's body weight, for very long.

When the time comes to hump extreme loads you just get after it, but don't volunteer to hunch your back for no good reason other than weighted cardio. Lighten up the load and find an incline for similar results and avoid torturing your spine. Sabes?

--->Dave

Shippingsoon
01-30-09, 04:04 PM
Thanks for the reply!

My intention with the weighted march excercise was to prepare me for the sort of rigors one would experience during something like the crucible. 80 pounds just happened to be the amount of weight I could easily fit into the backpack I'm using.

NoRemorse
01-30-09, 04:15 PM
Thanks for the reply!

My intention with the weighted march excercise was to prepare me for the sort of rigors one would experience during something like the crucible. 80 pounds just happened to be the amount of weight I could easily fit into the backpack I'm using.

Your pack during the Crucible is 30-40 pounds. Add rifle, helmet, web belt, canteens and your results will vary.

fierronights
01-30-09, 04:57 PM
That sounds like a great work out plan, any ideas on what would be a good meal plan? i lost 8 pounds a week ago eating just a granola bar and oval teen for the day with lots of water, i practically starved myself but i needed to drop the weight fast to qualify so i could swear in. My ship date is just around the corner and i need to loose more weight, im eating again but i feel completely drained of energy when i try to run. Im going to try my hardest but i would like a good diet plan.

Im leaving on Feb 23rd ( Monday ), im currently 191lbs and need to be 179lbs on the Friday before i leave or my ship date will change.

Achped
01-30-09, 10:29 PM
I wish I had the motivation to hump for PRACTICE. Wow.

SlingerDun
01-30-09, 10:54 PM
i lost 8 pounds a week ago eating just a granola bar and oval teen for the day with lots of water, i practically starved myselfYes you did or your body thinks you did, and i assure you since you did stay hydrated that 8lbs you cut was at least 4 lbs of muscle mass, gone, poof.

SlingerDun
01-30-09, 10:56 PM
any ideas on what would be a good meal planEat hearty early in the day, starve late, remain active.

commdog7
01-30-09, 11:29 PM
It is good to work-out prior to boot camp, build as much strength as you can before shipping. You just have to be aware of what kind of stress you are putting on your body. Do not overdo youself! If an exercise hurts or doesn't feel right, don't do it! If you end up hurting yourself, you might not ship.

stags11
01-31-09, 12:18 AM
I agree with commdog...many runners stick to not running more than 25 miles per week..you increase your chances of hurting yourself immensely by doing anything over that and it would not be worth it to get a stress fracture in your ankle prior to shipping. I would add in some sprints or some fast-paced, timed, circuit running..this will increase your foot speed and lactic acid threshold which are extremely important to keeping a good pace while running distance. Check out some running workouts online, you'll find something that fits and is probably a lot more fun than a weighted march.

fierronights
01-31-09, 01:22 PM
i cannot gain much muscle, its not easy trying to supply what my body needs while at the same time dropping as much weight as i need to in my alloted time frame. im not saying its not possible but well see what happens, all i can do is try.

xpaz
02-02-09, 05:27 AM
Monday, Thursday, Saturday
Pullups - 3 sets (set 1 - 15, set 2 - 15, set 3 - as close to 15 as I can)
Situps - 4 sets (3 sets of 60, final set of 40)
Pushups - 3 sets (3 sets of 50)
Side bends with weights - 3 sets (15-20 dips per set with 80lb dumbell for dip)
2 mile "march" with 80 pound pack
3 mile unweighted run

Wednesday & Friday
3 mile "march" with 80 pound pack
5 mile unweighted run on Wednesday, 8 miles on Friday.

Sunday
Rest!

I welcome any comments or recommendations for alterations to this schedule, as I'm looking to do whatever I can to be as prepared as a civilian can be for boot camp.
Thanks!

Joe

Edit:
I do my marches in temperate-weather infantry boots and my runs in running shoes. Should I be doing this differently?

Doesn't look too bad. I would drop off some of the weight on those marches of yours. It's a good idea to get your lower extremities conditioned, though. We had quite a few folks dropping back for shin splints, pulled muscles, hurt feet, etc. It sounds weird, but spend as much time barefoot as you can.

I'd also drop all of the specific Pull-up/Sit-up/Push-up stuff, and replace them with some kind of metabolic workout. It sounds like you're in decent shape already, so unless your PFT score is really in need of improvement, you can probably do without all of those specific exercises. I've never been a fan of specialization as far as fitness goes, so, again, unless you really need to target that PFT score, work on your general fitness instead.

I wish I'd prepared more for the rucks before I shipped -- they were the one thing that I really had a tough time on, and I had a 284 PFT.

Work on sprinting shorter distances (400m/800m), with the occasional 3 or 5 mile benchmark once a week or so, to see how you're doing, in place of those 3/5/8 mile runs you have scheduled.

You might also want to add a second day of rest to the mix as well.

And, like I normally do: Check out CrossFit.com for a terrific program on general fitness.

If you were paying me to train you (which you aren't, unfortunately!), I would put you on:

M/T/W: CrossFit WOD (workout of the day)
Th: Rest
F: 3 mile (5K) benchmark/CrossFit/Your choice of what needs to be worked on most
Sat: 3-5 mile "ruck" at a quick pace
Sun: Rest

Recipe for success right there! Of course, if you want to be stubborn, your program isn't horrible either :)

Shippingsoon
02-04-09, 10:06 AM
Doesn't look too bad. I would drop off some of the weight on those marches of yours. It's a good idea to get your lower extremities conditioned, though. We had quite a few folks dropping back for shin splints, pulled muscles, hurt feet, etc. It sounds weird, but spend as much time barefoot as you can.

I'd also drop all of the specific Pull-up/Sit-up/Push-up stuff, and replace them with some kind of metabolic workout. It sounds like you're in decent shape already, so unless your PFT score is really in need of improvement, you can probably do without all of those specific exercises. I've never been a fan of specialization as far as fitness goes, so, again, unless you really need to target that PFT score, work on your general fitness instead.

I wish I'd prepared more for the rucks before I shipped -- they were the one thing that I really had a tough time on, and I had a 284 PFT.

Work on sprinting shorter distances (400m/800m), with the occasional 3 or 5 mile benchmark once a week or so, to see how you're doing, in place of those 3/5/8 mile runs you have scheduled.

You might also want to add a second day of rest to the mix as well.

And, like I normally do: Check out CrossFit.com for a terrific program on general fitness.

If you were paying me to train you (which you aren't, unfortunately!), I would put you on:

M/T/W: CrossFit WOD (workout of the day)
Th: Rest
F: 3 mile (5K) benchmark/CrossFit/Your choice of what needs to be worked on most
Sat: 3-5 mile "ruck" at a quick pace
Sun: Rest

Recipe for success right there! Of course, if you want to be stubborn, your program isn't horrible either :)

Thank you. I think I'd like to tweak my program to include an extra day of rest. Any suggestions for diet?

xpaz
02-05-09, 12:47 AM
Any suggestions for diet?

World class fitness goes hand-in-hand with a world class diet. The best diet you can eat consists of:

Meat and vegetables, nuts and seeds, some fruit, little starch, no sugar.

This means no breads, pastas, candies, soft drinks, all of that tasty stuff that you have been poisoned with since the day you were birthed. Nuts and seeds are nice and fatty and filled with energy -- almonds, walnuts, etc. I used to take small "shots" of Olive Oil throughout the day (about 2 tsp) for my fat intake, but whatever floats your boat. HEALTHY fats, not the disgusting white crap you find on the sides of grain-fed steaks.

Meats should be as natural as possible. Get to know a butcher. Eat grassfed, organic beef if you can afford it; it's way way way way way better for you. Grassfed organic milk, cheese, whatever, as well.

For a really ideal diet, research the Zone diet (I know it sounds like a stupid fad, but many world class athletes, Marines, SF folk, etc. follow it religiously).

Or if you want to simplify things (and settle with not having an amazing diet), just:

- Limit carbs big time. Carbs should come from low glycemic fruits and veggies whenever possible.
- Increase healthy fat intake
- Eat healthy protein

There's really not much to it, other than common sense. Once you get past the advertising that all of the food companies shove down your throat, you'll wonder "Why the hell did I ever eat that crap, again?"

Hope that helps...

CBRN5711Tech
02-05-09, 01:11 AM
Seriously if you aren't a fat ass then stuff your face. Do a lot of pull ups and run a good three to four miles a few times a week. PT is most definitely not the hardest part of boot camp. I thought the starvation was worse than the PT. If you are a fat ass, I wouldn't recommend leaving for boot camp fat. Most people who start the Marine Corps overweight, end up having weight issues throughout their time in.