View Full Version : Crypto Linguist... Where is MOS school and how long?
Tolerance
01-16-09, 03:50 PM
Well I guess I'm gonna be stuck with this (unfortunately) if I want to ship out ASAP like I want to.
have to DEP in on Feb 2nd (my recruiter said the goal is 6 DEPers a month, he's already at 8, and I NEED to wait till Feb :mad:)
He says it's a pretty slim chance ill get an Intel job, even though I have a 92 ASVAB and all other requirements, and offered Crypto Linguist (which another recruit in the office took... I'm betting they're in need of these.)
Just wondering how long the MOS school is for this and where it's located if I end up stuck with it.
Well it's in Monterey, CA and it depends on which language cause it ranges from 40 - 80 weeks. Your recruiter isn't messing with you either we get full on the amount of poolees who can ship each month to where we can't ship anymore poolees.
Tolerance
01-16-09, 06:52 PM
Well it's in Monterey, CA and it depends on which language cause it ranges from 40 - 80 weeks. Your recruiter isn't messing with you either we get full on the amount of poolees who can ship each month to where we can't ship anymore poolees.
JESUS, long MOS school.
And I know about the DEP amount each month, I knew he wasn't messing with me on that :p
I'm just REALLY hoping I can get my damn 0231 that I've been striving for.
I'm optimistic about it, so hopefully it works out in the end!
MGySgtSki
01-16-09, 11:16 PM
JESUS, long MOS school.
And I know about the DEP amount each month, I knew he wasn't messing with me on that :p
I'm just REALLY hoping I can get my damn 0231 that I've been striving for.
I'm optimistic about it, so hopefully it works out in the end!
What are you looking to get out of it? I'm telling you right now, I'm a crypto linguist and have been for over 20 years and, as one, you're going to have many more opportunities to get out and do things with and in support of the maneuver elements and you're going to have some very sought after jobs skills if/when you decide to get out.
However, if your attitude is that it's something you're going to get stuck with, then stick your ass somewhere else because I don't want you.
I 110% agree with the MSgt's ending statement. First and foremost if you join our gun club you need to want to do it because you want to be a Marine. If you join based off of your job selection only, and not that you want to be successful late in life you are barking up the wrong tree.
saltyone
01-17-09, 12:03 AM
One of my good friends is currently an active duty Crypto Linguist. I met him on float back when we were both Cpls. He's been in about 13 years and doing great. It seems like the SOB gets promoted every two years. He has had opportunities to do some really impressive things.
Put it this way. We were promoted to Cpl at about the same time...I was an 03. He picked up Sgt a year before me. Before I even sniffed the promotion zone, he was a SSgt. He spent maybe two years as a SSgt and now is a Gunny. I talked to him the other day and it looks like he may be promoted soon to MSgt. Remember, he's only been in about 13 yrs. 13 freaking years and he's looking at MSgt!! WTF?
Look...my friend is about the smartest person I know. His IQ is probably off the charts. He makes a ton of extra money due to all the languages that he speaks and if he decided to leave the Corps tomorrow he could walk into nice six figure job without even trying.
On top of all that...he gets the greatest freaking duty stations. We were both at Lejeune when we met. He was attached to our TRAP team. He reenlisted and was sent out west to be an instructor. Stayed in sunny California for a couple of years then was sent to a freaking Air Force base to work for a school there. He spent several years there before recently going back to Lejeune. The guy left as a new Sgt and came back a senior Gunny. Again I say...WTF?
If I was still in he'd outrank me...Hell, I'm sure I'd still be a SSgt, maybe sniffing Gunny.
My point? He's had a very nice career so far. He has benefited from being in a highly sought after MOS that not everybody can do. He has lived debt free due to all the freaking reenlistment bonus money he's made. He gotten to deploy some while still having a pretty stable home life. He probably makes as much as a freaking Major with all the extra money he makes from his language skills. And, on top of all of that, when his career is over, he is practically guaranteed a very lucrative job in the civilian world with his highly sought after skills and security clearance.
Trust me my friend...it could be a lot worse.
Covey_Rider
01-17-09, 01:11 AM
What do you think the 0231 job is??? For some reason a lot of poolees go in thinking that if they're an intel specialist, that they'll get to go out and collect intelligence etc and be some freakin high speed spook. Not true. Every single person that I've known that's an 0231, thought that what they would do would be really cool. Every one of them ended up disappointed. Some are still happy with their jobs, and some are not.
It's your career, if you make it in. Find out all the information you can and then make a decision. Crypo-linguist is a good MOS. Fast promotion and a lot of opportunities if you can pass through the school and get the clearence for it.
PaidinBlood
01-17-09, 05:34 AM
I was sniffin around. What MOS are we talking about here?
Tolerance
01-17-09, 12:40 PM
What are you looking to get out of it? I'm telling you right now, I'm a crypto linguist and have been for over 20 years and, as one, you're going to have many more opportunities to get out and do things with and in support of the maneuver elements and you're going to have some very sought after jobs skills if/when you decide to get out.
However, if your attitude is that it's something you're going to get stuck with, then stick your ass somewhere else because I don't want you.
sorry if I came off like an asshat, MSgt. I wasn't trying to have a bad attitude about it at all. My recruiter first tells me I can get 0231, then the Gunny of the station said its availability is dwindled, but they have Crypto Linguist spots open (and again, there were many others that were pushed with this too bc the recruiters were making it sound like a job made for a king). MY EXPERIENCE with recruiters aren't the greatest, thats why I CAME HERE to get opinions from Marines who ARENT recruiters.
YOU have this job, MSgt. So I will DEFINITELY listen to your opinion and probably would want info from you if available.
What exactly would a newbie Marine be doing in this field (E2-E4)? What does a typical work day look like? etc.
On another note, I guess I wanted 0231 also because I REALLY wanted to do Counter Intel/HUMINT. BUT, you have to be atleast an E4 for that. I figured ok 0231 is in the same field, so I could just LAT move pretty easily, right? Would a Crypto Linguist be able to LAT move over to the 02 field?
1stRad2671
01-17-09, 09:04 PM
JESUS, long MOS school.
And that's just the first school.
Do a search for 2600, 26xx and 2671, and read through those threads. Pretty much everything has been explained.
MGySgtSki
01-20-09, 08:26 AM
sorry if I came off like an asshat, MSgt. I wasn't trying to have a bad attitude about it at all. My recruiter first tells me I can get 0231, then the Gunny of the station said its availability is dwindled, but they have Crypto Linguist spots open (and again, there were many others that were pushed with this too bc the recruiters were making it sound like a job made for a king). MY EXPERIENCE with recruiters aren't the greatest, thats why I CAME HERE to get opinions from Marines who ARENT recruiters.
YOU have this job, MSgt. So I will DEFINITELY listen to your opinion and probably would want info from you if available.
What exactly would a newbie Marine be doing in this field (E2-E4)? What does a typical work day look like? etc.
On another note, I guess I wanted 0231 also because I REALLY wanted to do Counter Intel/HUMINT. BUT, you have to be atleast an E4 for that. I figured ok 0231 is in the same field, so I could just LAT move pretty easily, right? Would a Crypto Linguist be able to LAT move over to the 02 field?
There's no such thing as a typical day...it just depends on where you get stationed. Just do as 1stRad2671 said in the post above. There's plenty of info already on this board about it.
Oh, and if you wanted to lat move to CI/HUMINT, you'd probably be better off going 03xx than anything. You don't need an intel background (that's what your schooling is for). Lots of CI/HUMINT guys are former 03xx's.
JWDevilDog
02-25-09, 04:44 AM
However, if your attitude is that it's something you're going to get stuck with, then stick your ass somewhere else because I don't want you.
While I may not be an Intel Marine, I agree with the MSgt. I know you already clarified yourself, but just watch how you word things on the forum.
A person either wants to put in the hard work to learn a foreign language fluently or they do not. That's exactly what your recruiter is pushing you towards - Cryptolinguistics is foreign language fluency. This is not something that you try and see if you like it. You must already know if that is what you want to do, because the school is so long and challenging. Anywhere from a year to a year and a half of your initial enlistment will be taken up by schooling. You have to ask yourself if that's truly what you want.
Now, that is what I want. I am definitely willing to put in the hardwork to learn a foreign language. I strive to do a lat-move over to 0211 and get assigned to the DLI so that I can learn something such as Arabic, Pushtu, or even Korean. In time, in good time.
Tolerance
03-01-09, 11:45 AM
While I may not be an Intel Marine, I agree with the MSgt. I know you already clarified yourself, but just watch how you word things on the forum.
A person either wants to put in the hard work to learn a foreign language fluently or they do not. That's exactly what your recruiter is pushing you towards - Cryptolinguistics is foreign language fluency. This is not something that you try and see if you like it. You must already know if that is what you want to do, because the school is so long and challenging. Anywhere from a year to a year and a half of your initial enlistment will be taken up by schooling. You have to ask yourself if that's truly what you want.
Now, that is what I want. I am definitely willing to put in the hardwork to learn a foreign language. I strive to do a lat-move over to 0211 and get assigned to the DLI so that I can learn something such as Arabic, Pushtu, or even Korean. In time, in good time.
I as well want to lat-move to 0211, if given the chance!
to update everyone... I received a 121 on my DLAB, so I passed. But when the Gunny tried putting me into a Crypto Linguist slot... none were showing :(
(The Corps was giving a $25,000 bonus [serious] to individuals who signed in this field bc they were needed badly. No wonder it got filled up so fast!)
I find out this week though what's available for sure.
JWDevilDog
03-03-09, 01:20 AM
(The Corps was giving a $25,000 bonus [serious] to individuals who signed in this field bc they were needed badly. No wonder it got filled up so fast!)
I find out this week though what's available for sure.
You stand a better chance of getting the MOS you want if you select it in October, the start of the fiscal year. That is when all the openings are posted. So, really, nothing filled up "fast." The openings are posted in October, so 5 months later I would expect things to be closed out.
My guess is this field didn't fill up fast at all, because linguists are rare and always in demand (hence the hefty bonus). My guess is that it filled up gradually, but did so over the last 5 months.
Tolerance
03-04-09, 05:18 PM
You stand a better chance of getting the MOS you want if you select it in October, the start of the fiscal year. That is when all the openings are posted. So, really, nothing filled up "fast." The openings are posted in October, so 5 months later I would expect things to be closed out.
My guess is this field didn't fill up fast at all, because linguists are rare and always in demand (hence the hefty bonus). My guess is that it filled up gradually, but did so over the last 5 months.
yes, true. and in February is when it FINALLY filled up.
There's no way for me leaving all the way in October.... im leaving this month (i wish i had all of my priorities in order, other stuff taken care of, and knew about the "fiscal" year / MOS relation information before October... cant change time though. gotta live in the NOW!)
The Gunny at my office said there MIGHT be an intel spot open though, so I'm crossing my fingers and still hoping. If not, gotta look into another MOS!
JWDevilDog
03-07-09, 05:38 AM
Good luck with everything. I hope there is a spot open in Intel, so you get the MOS you want. If not, just concentrate on the goal of becoming a Marine for now, and maybe later down the road you can do a lat-move.
Tolerance
03-08-09, 12:11 AM
Good luck with everything. I hope there is a spot open in Intel, so you get the MOS you want. If not, just concentrate on the goal of becoming a Marine for now, and maybe later down the road you can do a lat-move.
thank you! :)
03SDP11
05-27-09, 08:07 PM
i have already been in three years, 0311, i am reenlisting sometime in october timeframe but i am lat moving and just looking for some info. i have already taken SLAC (survival level arabic course) via the marine corps and my teacher said i have a knack for arabic and i should go linguist if i dont stay infantry so here goes: 1) am i allowed to be married while at DLI? 2) is it a purple school? (all branches of the service are there) i understand i can get most of this from my CRS but i rarely have time to talk to him. any info anyone has would be great. thanks
*~Silent Thunder~*
USMC Silent Drill Platoon 06-08
jackson07
06-05-09, 10:28 PM
Yes you are allowed to be married and you PCS there so you can bring your family. And yes, all branches are there.
Wyoming
06-05-09, 10:58 PM
*~Silent Thunder~*
USMC Silent Drill Platoon 06-08
1st I have seen on here.
Check your PM's.
Marine180
10-20-09, 10:09 PM
i have already been in three years, 0311, i am reenlisting sometime in october timeframe but i am lat moving and just looking for some info. i have already taken SLAC (survival level arabic course) via the marine corps and my teacher said i have a knack for arabic and i should go linguist if i dont stay infantry so here goes: 1) am i allowed to be married while at DLI? 2) is it a purple school? (all branches of the service are there) i understand i can get most of this from my CRS but i rarely have time to talk to him. any info anyone has would be great. thanks
*~Silent Thunder~*
USMC Silent Drill Platoon 06-08
A "knack" for a language?
I was thinking about doing LM to this MOS(2671), If You guys have any helpful comment or suggestion I will be happy to hear from you all.....
Thank you.
kendub03
05-25-11, 03:30 PM
I know this is an old quote, but I had a question about linguist school. Im a reservist 0241 (imagery intel) and I really want to go to linguist school. I know your supposed to have 0231 or a CI background but I was wondering if there was any way I could get into that field with out having that. My unit doesnt have the funds and I dont know how I would go about trying to get into linguist school. Let me know if have any advice? Thanks
SGT Williams
haebyungdae
05-26-11, 02:33 AM
Being a reservist IMINT Marine, you would be hard pressed to come up with a justification for needing a slot at DLI. If you were active duty you could simply submit for a lat move, but as a reservist, I doubt such a thing is possible. Especially to the linguist field.
kendub03
05-26-11, 10:54 AM
I figured as much, I was more seeing if anyone new a way I could make it happen. But thanks for the response.
dewilliamson
07-25-11, 09:58 PM
Where do Pashto Marines usually get stationed?
Whatever unit is deploying to Afghanistan next. Right now, they're getting sent a lot to Pendleton.