MECP Vs. NROTC

[TylerMikael]

O.K. Marines, I got a problem and I know that the best people to come to when one has a problem are Marines. So this is what I was thinking about doing. After HS I'm thinking about first enlisting in the Navy (please save the criticism) for two years, then after my time is up I was going to enlist in the Marine Corps as a prior service applicant. After I enlist I was going to then try to earn my commission trough the Marine enlisted commissioning program. Would it be better just to go to college with NROTC, after HS, then earn my commission that way, or do the above? What kind of officer would you feel better going into battle with?

Thanks, Devil Dogs!:thumbup:

[SGT7477]

Why would you want to be a squid first?

[TylerMikael]

Why would you want to be a squid first?

I want to serve on a ship for a little while. Heck, if the Corps still had Sea Duty (Mar/Dets) I woulden't even think about being a squid, but it is a thing of the past, so I figured that I could join the Navy, then get into security forces. That way I could spend some time on a ship (as a MA or something).

[FLRULZURSHPSCKS]

So you honestly think Marines don't spend time on ships. How the hell else do you htink we get around? The Navy is our bus drivers. Of course we spend time on ships. Join the god damn Marine Corps the first time if thats what you really wanna do and if you think we need you. If not join the squids and stay there. What do you have to say to that??

[0231Marine]

Who the heck told you Marines don't serve on ship? What do you think MEU's do? Marines are AMPHIBIOUS!!!

Secondly, there is no way to say an officer that went through MECEP is better than an officer from ROTC. The quality of officer is not made by these programs, it's determined by the person. I personally would suggest you go through ROTC if you want to be an officer. There is no guaruntee that you'll be selected for MECEP after you enlist.

Stay out of the Navy if you want to be a Marine...you'll just be wasting your time and you can't keep your rank when you move to the Men's Side of the Navy anyways.

[SGT7477]

I guess you know how we Marines feel we are part of the navy, THE MEN'S DEPARTMENT. OOHRAH.

[TylerMikael]

You all are right. It would be a waste of time to join the Navy then transfer, and it doesn't matter how I get my commission anyway, all that matters is if I got what it takes to be a good leader.

I was told that Sea Duty (the Marine Detachments (for security)) was taken off the Corps's billet a while back ago (in the 90's). Of course I know the Corps will always have MEUs and the like, but I thought that the Navy developed its own security forces and no longer needed the Marines to provide ship-board security anymore. Was I wrong?

THANK YOU ALL FOR REPLYING TO MY QUESTION!
IT HELPED A BUNCH!

[TJKUSMC]

Security Forces is an 03 MOS. Why would you think they wouldn't go on ship? Remember, the Marine Corps doesn't use planes to get around like the Army....Thats why we have the Navy.

[TylerMikael]

Security Forces is an 03 MOS. Why would you think they wouldn't go on ship? Remember, the Marine Corps doesn't use planes to get around like the Army....Thats why we have the Navy.

So Marine Security forces do serve aboard ships?
What do thier duty's consist of aboard the ship?

[TJKUSMC]

I'm not in security forces, so i couldn't tell you what they do aboard a naval ship if they do anything at all. Special Forces is 03 which is infantry so I'm pretty sure they get deployed with MEUs.

[0231Marine]

I'm not in security forces, so i couldn't tell you what they do aboard a naval ship if they do anything at all. Special Forces is 03 which is infantry so I'm pretty sure they get deployed with MEUs.

WTF? The Marine Corps doesn't have Special Forces, they have Force Recon. And Force Recon is not infantry by any means.

[TJKUSMC]

MCSF is not "Special Forces" 0231 Marine. MCSF is an Infantry type MOS. It's a 5 year contract I believe and you have to serve 1.5 or 2 years as an infantry men? Some jazz like that. It's not my MOS, but I have a few friends from boot camp who have the MOS.

[0231Marine]

Really? What's the MOS designator for that? I think you're confusing "Security" Forces with "Special" Forces.

[TylerMikael]

I think it was just a typo 0231Marine.
I'm knew you ment security forces, not special forces, Prvt. Kath.

But the question about sea duty was never cleared up, do Marine Detachments still embark on war-ships for security purposes (like to guard the Captain, run the brig, and the such) or has the Navy security forces taken that over?

Y'all have been a great help.
THANKS, once again!

[TJKUSMC]

Ohh..now that i look back on my older post i did make a typo. I meant Security Forces...I didn't mean to type "Special Forces". My mistake.

[TylerMikael]

It's fine, Sir.
I knew what you meant.

[SlingerDun]

The Marine detachment you seek to join and i'm pretty sure i explained it months agohttp://www.leatherneck.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif WAS "ships company" we were trained for this duty at Sea School MCRD Diego. It's now history....

thedrifter
10-02-05, 05:35 AM
Seagoing Marines gather for final depot meeting
MCRD San Diego
Story by Pvt. Charlie Chavez

MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT SAN DIEGO, Calif. (Sept. 30, 2005) -- The United States Seagoing Marine Association, in its largest gathering since World War II, attended a morning colors ceremony and Company M's graduation Friday.

The 211 Marines and spouses first attended the colors ceremony, then they viewed a graduation ceremony similar to what they marched in years ago. Some Seagoing Marines at the graduation completed boot camp when the M1-Garand Rifle was still in use and fired during the graduations.

"I miss the rifles so much. They made everything so nice," said Seagoing Marine Chuck Kane. "I guess they can't have them for graduation because of security."

The Seagoing Marines share a significant bond with the depot because from the 1930s through the 1980s, Sea School was located where the Coast Guard weather station is now, according to William R. Graham, the association's finance officer.

The school was set in place so that Marines with no knowledge of how to serve on a ship could get proper training and understanding before joining their Navy brethren abroad. Sea School's highlight was when then-President John F. Kennedy conducted a formal inspection on the students in the early 1960s.

"The ceremony and the depot are still as beautiful as when I was here before," said Seagoing Marine Joe F. Cody.

Robert Vanderveen, a Seagoing Marine, said this was probably the last association meeting on the depot because the school has not been active in more than 20 years, so no new members join.

Ellie

[TylerMikael]

The Marine detachment you seek to join and i'm pretty sure i explained it months agohttp://www.leatherneck.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif WAS "ships company" we were trained for this duty at Sea School MCRD Diego. It's now history....

thedrifter
10-02-05, 05:35 AM
Seagoing Marines gather for final depot meeting
MCRD San Diego
Story by Pvt. Charlie Chavez

MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT SAN DIEGO, Calif. (Sept. 30, 2005) -- The United States Seagoing Marine Association, in its largest gathering since World War II, attended a morning colors ceremony and Company M's graduation Friday.

The 211 Marines and spouses first attended the colors ceremony, then they viewed a graduation ceremony similar to what they marched in years ago. Some Seagoing Marines at the graduation completed boot camp when the M1-Garand Rifle was still in use and fired during the graduations.

"I miss the rifles so much. They made everything so nice," said Seagoing Marine Chuck Kane. "I guess they can't have them for graduation because of security."

The Seagoing Marines share a significant bond with the depot because from the 1930s through the 1980s, Sea School was located where the Coast Guard weather station is now, according to William R. Graham, the association's finance officer.

The school was set in place so that Marines with no knowledge of how to serve on a ship could get proper training and understanding before joining their Navy brethren abroad. Sea School's highlight was when then-President John F. Kennedy conducted a formal inspection on the students in the early 1960s.

"The ceremony and the depot are still as beautiful as when I was here before," said Seagoing Marine Joe F. Cody.

Robert Vanderveen, a Seagoing Marine, said this was probably the last association meeting on the depot because the school has not been active in more than 20 years, so no new members join.

Ellie

Right, Sir. You explained that to me a long time ago.
A couple of the Marines that posted on the first page said that the Corps still had sea duty, and I was like no, I don't think y'all have sea duty anymore, and they said they did, but it turned out we were talking about two diffrent things (they were talking about MEUs I was talking about ship's company),
so anyways now that I have that all cleared up. WHEW!

THANKS, SlingerDun!

[0231Marine]

Ohh..now that i look back on my older post i did make a typo. I meant Security Forces...I didn't mean to type "Special Forces". My mistake.

Roger that! I was a little confused and I tend to get hung up on details like that...part of me being an analyst I guess!