View Full Version : How to graduate 1st in bootcamp?
Ratcliff
10-09-08, 11:32 PM
First of all, I'm very interested in becoming a Scout/ Sniper. I want to excel and be the best in bootcamp to imrpove my chances in getting into Scout/ Sniper school. I read in the Scout/ Sniper sticky that 0341 was best to make it into Scout/ Sniper because of the math and training you do. Is it?
Uh, what can I do to better prepare myself to become the best in bootcamp? Besides PT.
Echo_Four_Bravo
10-09-08, 11:49 PM
Let's see, what do I think of when I think of a Scout/Sniper?
Oh yeah, I think of someone that observes their surroundings and is willing to go the extra mile to accomplish their mission.
Since your mission in this case is to find an answer to questions that have been asked no less than 900 billion times on this forum, I'd assume that an aspiring sniper would be able to observe this forum and find the answer.
Ratcliff
10-10-08, 12:24 AM
Yes sir, found a good thread, http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50240&highlight=0302
Thanks for the... guidance?
There's this top-class military simulation (with Marines, no less!) called Call of Duty 4 that gives excellent insight into becoming a USMC Scout/Sniper. Most of the skills in that game are directly transferable and as real as it gets in the field. Make sure you play in "hardcore" mode so other people you know you're the best of the best.
Pete0331
10-10-08, 12:30 AM
I read in the Scout/ Sniper sticky that 0341 was best to make it into Scout/ Sniper because of the math and training you do. Is it?
That's debatable.
It doesn't really make a difference as long are you are in the 03 field.
WERM
Pete
yellowwing
10-10-08, 12:33 AM
You still have almost 9 months to pick up extracurricular activities. Do something that demonstrates Leadership in your Community. It will build confidence and get you noticed. Pick something that you can get your Heart into.
And read all the Poolee Knowledge you can find here. We've been around for years answering hundreds of Poolee questions.
Wyoming
10-10-08, 12:53 AM
1st, you get a broomstick ....
Ratcliff
10-10-08, 12:58 AM
There's this top-class military simulation (with Marines, no less!) called Call of Duty 4 that gives excellent insight into becoming a USMC Scout/Sniper. Most of the skills in that game are directly transferable and as real as it gets in the field. Make sure you play in "hardcore" mode so other people you know you're the best of the best.
Ha, I'm lvl 55 7th prestige and hardcore is all I ever play, and sniper is only gun i use on any map :p.
That's debatable.
It doesn't really make a difference as long are you are in the 03 field.
WERM
Pete
Alright, thanks.
You still have almost 9 months to pick up extracurricular activities. Do something that demonstrates Leadership in your Community. It will build confidence and get you noticed. Pick something that you can get your Heart into.
And read all the Poolee Knowledge you can find here. We've been around for years answering hundreds of Poolee questions.
I wouldn't know where to start or look for community leadership. Fortunatly, confidence is not an issue with me. But I do need to get noticed.
hardcorps1110
10-10-08, 01:13 AM
There's this top-class military simulation (with Marines, no less!) called Call of Duty 4 that gives excellent insight into becoming a USMC Scout/Sniper. Most of the skills in that game are directly transferable and as real as it gets in the field. Make sure you play in "hardcore" mode so other people you know you're the best of the best.
lol nice. I think he realized you were kidding... I think...
But if anything just know your knowledge. You will learn it there but it'll ease the burden from what I hear. Worry about getting through and helping out your fellow recruits. You'll be an honor graduate if they feel you should.
Iseethelight
10-10-08, 01:19 AM
Lord knows there's a lot of differences between the Marine Corps and the Army.........But, every sniper I met in the Army was quiet. They were the guys that half the 11B's took for admin pukes until someone cared enough to notice the tab. No bragging, no cocky stories about how 'bad-ass' they are. On top of that, I don't think I met a single one that shot 40/40 on qual.
0231Marine
10-10-08, 07:28 AM
Ha, I'm lvl 55 7th prestige and hardcore is all I ever play, and sniper is only gun i use on any map :p.
You're a level 55 NERD, 7th Dweeb!
Marine84
10-10-08, 07:53 AM
But I do need to get noticed.
So, you're an attention wh0re? That's a good reason to join our Corps! What a dumba$$!
sparkie
10-10-08, 07:58 AM
Want noticed? Have someone send you some KY while your there.
Good morning, 84,,,,Are we having fun now?
Marine84
10-10-08, 08:00 AM
We are now!
0231Marine
10-10-08, 08:04 AM
Want noticed? Have someone send you some KY while your there.
Good morning, 84,,,,Are we having fun now?
Or a big box full of crushed styrofoam. That stuff will get everywhere while digging through the box and is clings to everything!
Ratcliff
10-10-08, 09:18 AM
Lord knows there's a lot of differences between the Marine Corps and the Army.........But, every sniper I met in the Army was quiet. They were the guys that half the 11B's took for admin pukes until someone cared enough to notice the tab. No bragging, no cocky stories about how 'bad-ass' they are. On top of that, I don't think I met a single one that shot 40/40 on qual.
Is it easier to be a sniper in the army?
yellowwing
10-10-08, 10:17 AM
Here's two guides we go by as Marines, Marine Corps Leadership Traits (http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership_traits.htm), and Leadership Principles (http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/usmc/leadership.htm).
You can display Initiative in finding a community role for yourself.
Echo_Four_Bravo
10-10-08, 12:07 PM
Yes, it is much easier to be a Sniper in the Army. They don't have any standards at all- if you can kill people on an X-Box you're good to go, even if you have no clue what the job actually entails.
Give their recruiter a call- just forget you ever heard the word Marine.
outlaw3179
10-10-08, 12:16 PM
You're a level 55 NERD, 7th Dweeb!
Lol..Dude I was thinking the exact same thing.
Iseethelight
10-10-08, 12:56 PM
Is it easier to be a sniper in the army?
easier than in the Marine Corps? If I had to guess, I would say it probably is.
Army is capitalized, just Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force should be.
Is it easy to become a US Army Sniper? No. I recall hearing that the final judged stalk has the single highest fail rate of any event in the Army, to include ORS. The standards for entry aren't rough, but there aren't a ton of slots open so the more competitive you are the better. 210 APFT with no less than 70 per event on the 18-21 chart, normal color vision (which you need anyway for the required 11,18 or 19 series MOS) and an expert qualification within 6 months of reporting along with the obligatory psych eval.
MarinesFTW
10-10-08, 01:35 PM
Or a big box full of crushed styrofoam. That stuff will get everywhere while digging through the box and is clings to everything!
HAHA! i can only think of how much this would suck.... After my thread i realizied how stupid i was... and now i cant believe people are still asking about it even with a sticky...... lmfao
Rev3ngE
10-10-08, 05:06 PM
Ha, I'm lvl 55 7th prestige and hardcore is all I ever play, and sniper is only gun i use on any map :p.
Alright, thanks.
I wouldn't know where to start or look for community leadership. Fortunatly, confidence is not an issue with me. But I do need to get noticed.
I'm lvl55 10th prestige, and beat the entire game on Veteran (harder than hardcore). And ill pwn you with my sniper, lol.
Ratcliff
10-10-08, 05:42 PM
Yes, it is much easier to be a Sniper in the Army. They don't have any standards at all- if you can kill people on an X-Box you're good to go, even if you have no clue what the job actually entails.
Give their recruiter a call- just forget you ever heard the word Marine.
Never said anything about going to the army. Was just a question.
I'm lvl55 10th prestige, and beat the entire game on Veteran (harder than hardcore). And ill pwn you with my sniper, lol.
And they say I'm a nerd :p. On veteran, I'm stuck on one of the last missions when you're trying to take over "mission control" or whatever.
MarinesFTW
10-11-08, 09:18 AM
And they say I'm a nerd :p. On veteran, I'm stuck on one of the last missions when you're trying to take over "mission control" or whatever.[/quote]
This is getting out of hand now and wayyy to far off topic... please stop talking about COD 4 and just let this thread die down... were here to learn about boot camp not talking about some damn video game. nuff said
SGT7477
10-11-08, 05:44 PM
First of all, I'm very interested in becoming a Scout/ Sniper. I want to excel and be the best in bootcamp to imrpove my chances in getting into Scout/ Sniper school. I read in the Scout/ Sniper sticky that 0341 was best to make it into Scout/ Sniper because of the math and training you do. Is it?
Uh, what can I do to better prepare myself to become the best in bootcamp? Besides PT.
Are you for real?:evilgrin:
SGT7477
10-11-08, 05:47 PM
easier than in the Marine Corps? If I had to guess, I would say it probably is.
Army is capitalized, just Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force should be.
Is it easy to become a US Army Sniper? No. I recall hearing that the final judged stalk has the single highest fail rate of any event in the Army, to include ORS. The standards for entry aren't rough, but there aren't a ton of slots open so the more competitive you are the better. 210 APFT with no less than 70 per event on the 18-21 chart, normal color vision (which you need anyway for the required 11,18 or 19 series MOS) and an expert qualification within 6 months of reporting along with the obligatory psych eval.
army,huh, we MARINES have been fixing their mistakes since 1775.:evilgrin:
Iseethelight
10-11-08, 09:22 PM
Think of it this way Sarge, without the Army, the Marines would have way too much free time on their hands.............I've seen what bored Marines can accomplish in very little time, there's no need to give them even more time.
thewookie
10-11-08, 10:42 PM
easier than in the Marine Corps? If I had to guess, I would say it probably is.
Army is capitalized, just Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force should be.
Is it easy to become a US Army Sniper? No. I recall hearing that the final judged stalk has the single highest fail rate of any event in the Army, to include ORS. The standards for entry aren't rough, but there aren't a ton of slots open so the more competitive you are the better. 210 APFT with no less than 70 per event on the 18-21 chart, normal color vision (which you need anyway for the required 11,18 or 19 series MOS) and an expert qualification within 6 months of reporting along with the obligatory psych eval.
And your story is what?
thewookie
10-11-08, 10:43 PM
Think of it this way Sarge, without the Army, the Marines would have way too much free time on their hands.............I've seen what bored Marines can accomplish in very little time, there's no need to give them even more time.
WHO ARE YOU?
thewookie
10-11-08, 10:50 PM
WHO ARE YOU?
Don't wait until I go to bed to answer me with some cute answer, I see you're here, I want to know - WHO ARE YOU? WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
Iseethelight
10-11-08, 10:56 PM
And your story is what?
Not nearly as impressive or experienced as yours. It consists of a very rocky 4 years with the Army Guard after which I made a complete ass of myself in college by spending the majority of the time so drunk I could barely stand. I got kind of lost in life and F'd off for a while and now I've seen the light and decided to go back in service. Army or Marines, well if my fatass doesn't lose this last couple % BF the choice will be made for me. One way or another I WILL be back in uniform at the beginning of 2009.
Not trying to ruffle any feathers just bestowing knowledge I gained second-hand from a lot of friends that had their **** together while I was being stupid.
That Sat for ya Sarge?
thewookie
10-11-08, 10:58 PM
Not nearly as impressive or experienced as yours. It consists of a very rocky 4 years with the Army Guard after which I made a complete ass of myself in college by spending the majority of the time so drunk I could barely stand. I got kind of lost in life and F'd off for a while and now I've seen the light and decided to go back in service. Army or Marines, well if my fatass doesn't lose this last couple % BF the choice will be made for me. One way or another I WILL be back in uniform at the beginning of 2009.
Not trying to ruffle any feathers just bestowing knowledge I gained second-hand from a lot of friends that had their **** together while I was being stupid.
That Sat for ya Sarge?
No, It is UNSAT, and I'm not your Sarge. Don't speak about what you do not know first hand.
Iseethelight
10-11-08, 11:07 PM
You have a fantastic evening now Sgt.
Do-Or-Die
10-12-08, 12:28 AM
I liked the broomstick reference.
That was a funny post.
SGT7477
10-12-08, 08:40 AM
Think of it this way Sarge, without the Army, the Marines would have way too much free time on their hands.............I've seen what bored Marines can accomplish in very little time, there's no need to give them even more time.
For your info Marines know what to do with their free time including taking care of the army of one and the army strong bs.:evilgrin:
Ratcliff
10-12-08, 02:19 PM
Do 2nd and 3rd graduates get recognized the same as 1st or not at all?
MarinesFTW
10-12-08, 02:26 PM
Negitive
Ratcliff
10-12-08, 03:02 PM
Negitive
Negative* what? Not at all? Or just not the same?
MarinesFTW
10-12-08, 03:39 PM
Only first gets LCpl others if i remeber right go PFC if they weren't originally Private or else they stay normal.
Patriot34
10-14-08, 09:48 AM
Ha, I'm lvl 55 7th prestige and hardcore is all I ever play, and sniper is only gun i use on any map :p.
Alright, thanks.
I wouldn't know where to start or look for community leadership. Fortunatly, confidence is not an issue with me. But I do need to get noticed.
Call of Duty 4 won't get you to be a sniper buddy. You can tell your DI all that prestige mode crap but being a sniper isn't a single man out in the wilderness taking out one person after another. You do intelligence gathering mostly and you only take one shot. You miss you die.
Scottie0417
10-28-08, 11:59 PM
I love all the poolees that post on here saying they're gonna be Scout Snipers or they're gonna go Recon. They'll find out how much they wanna get noticed while they're in boot camp once they get off the bus.
So true PFC. I don't even bother helping these "scout sniper, recon" types out.
Going from a high schooler or a college dropout to a steely eyed elite Marine Corps Scout Sniper right after a 3 month period of boot camp is like giving the honor grad blood stripes. They're just not ready.
The first step is becoming a Marine, and many scout sniper/video game boys have no idea what they're getting into.
joecoul89
10-29-08, 07:04 AM
Man this thread got kind of off topic haha.
In bootcamp, they were showing us the M-249 and the M203 and the first thing the blackshirt instructor said when he pulled it out was, "so who here has played call of duty?"
Well ratcliff, if you want to finish 1st in boot, shoot expert on the rifle range (and it should be a high expert score), get something around a 300 PFT, and be an overall noticable and hardworking recruit. The DI's will notice if you really put out. As for being a scout sniper, theres a lot of time until you need to think about that, and you might even change your mind about that after boot camp.
AaronJM1984
10-29-08, 10:37 AM
What a lot of these guys fail to realize is that the enemy shoots back.
0231Marine
10-29-08, 11:44 AM
What a lot of these guys fail to realize is that the enemy shoots back.
Funny how that gets overlooked a lot buy these gung-ho poolee's!!!
AaronJM1984
10-29-08, 12:06 PM
Funny how that gets overlooked a lot buy these gung-ho poolee's!!!
I'd love to do some of the things they want to do such as go to Scout Sniper school, but I also realize that I need to make it through Boot Camp, and shoot Expert etc... A lot of things to consider, like am I willing to die for my country or am I wiling to be in a wheelchair. When I was deciding on Infantry, these were some of the things I thought about, and became "okay" with. I doubt most younger DEPers think about these things.
Garrett90
10-29-08, 12:13 PM
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McSweeney
10-29-08, 12:20 PM
First of all, I'm very interested in becoming a Scout/ Sniper. I want to excel and be the best in bootcamp to imrpove my chances in getting into Scout/ Sniper school. I read in the Scout/ Sniper sticky that 0341 was best to make it into Scout/ Sniper because of the math and training you do. Is it?
Uh, what can I do to better prepare myself to become the best in bootcamp? Besides PT.
to be the best.. you better be good at leading other recruits while you have an angry DI screaming at you. it would also be a good idea to have the best PFT in the platoon, because it seemed to me the DI picked the most physically fit guys to be squad leaders / guide. If you arent good at screaming at other recruits and telling them what to do, you probably wont be the best
PS. Dont go overboard. One guy tried to be guide but failed miserably because he was a complete youknowwhat. He got blanket partied a few times. be careful
i just love how a thread will be started to answer a specific question and somewhere in the middle the point is lost and it just starts to be all about some other off topic b.s.
Olivieri
11-17-08, 11:15 AM
This is the way of the Poolee Hall, grasshopper. Most of us are complete idiots and don't know when to just stop, shut up, and listen.
That's just the way things are. Hopefully it will be fixed with a "vacation" to MCRDPI or MCRDSD.
BassMasterBling
12-02-08, 12:05 PM
I'm lvl55 10th prestige, and beat the entire game on Veteran (harder than hardcore). And ill pwn you with my sniper, lol.
hah wow. pwn? are you serious.. haha gamers
There's this top-class military simulation (with Marines, no less!) called Call of Duty 4 that gives excellent insight into becoming a USMC Scout/Sniper. Most of the skills in that game are directly transferable and as real as it gets in the field. Make sure you play in "hardcore" mode so other people you know you're the best of the best.
hahahahahaha made my day
ForeverChanged
12-03-08, 09:50 AM
You want noticed in bootcamp? TRY to earn your time on the quarterdeck, and in the sandpit. Make sure you are good at leading the other recruits, but if there's someone on the quarterdeck or in the pit, your ass better be there with him. Also you had better be sporting a 300pft going into bootcamp, and make sure on free time you are making all the fatbodies and nasties work on pulls and crunches. It ****ed me off so much watching a recruit who could only do 3 pulls sit on his footlocker and right letters home because it was "his time". Pick those people out quick and tell them they have 8 hours of free time in the dark to write letters every friggin night.
JamesMShaw
12-03-08, 01:03 PM
You want noticed in bootcamp? TRY to earn your time on the quarterdeck, and in the sandpit. Make sure you are good at leading the other recruits, but if there's someone on the quarterdeck or in the pit, your ass better be there with him. Also you had better be sporting a 300pft going into bootcamp, and make sure on free time you are making all the fatbodies and nasties work on pulls and crunches. It ****ed me off so much watching a recruit who could only do 3 pulls sit on his footlocker and right letters home because it was "his time". Pick those people out quick and tell them they have 8 hours of free time in the dark to write letters every friggin night.
How is it you know all this when you too are just a poolee?
SGT7477
12-03-08, 03:25 PM
You want noticed in bootcamp? TRY to earn your time on the quarterdeck, and in the sandpit. Make sure you are good at leading the other recruits, but if there's someone on the quarterdeck or in the pit, your ass better be there with him. Also you had better be sporting a 300pft going into bootcamp, and make sure on free time you are making all the fatbodies and nasties work on pulls and crunches. It ****ed me off so much watching a recruit who could only do 3 pulls sit on his footlocker and right letters home because it was "his time". Pick those people out quick and tell them they have 8 hours of free time in the dark to write letters every friggin night.
Tell me something I don't know, have you been there and done that,HUH?:evilgrin:
SGT7477
12-03-08, 03:29 PM
First of all, I'm very interested in becoming a Scout/ Sniper. I want to excel and be the best in bootcamp to imrpove my chances in getting into Scout/ Sniper school. I read in the Scout/ Sniper sticky that 0341 was best to make it into Scout/ Sniper because of the math and training you do. Is it?
Uh, what can I do to better prepare myself to become the best in bootcamp? Besides PT.
You haven't earned OUR TITLE yet and you're talking Sniper.:evilgrin:
ForeverChanged
12-04-08, 11:01 AM
How is it you know all this when you too are just a poolee?
Tell me something I don't know, have you been there and done that,HUH?:evilgrin:
Yes, I graduated PLT 3110 MCRDPI Nov 26, 2008. No one has posted the link to update avatar, nor have I taken the initiative to have someone post it.
SGT7477
12-04-08, 12:16 PM
Yes, I graduated PLT 3110 MCRDPI Nov 26, 2008. No one has posted the link to update avatar, nor have I taken the initiative to have someone post it.
I guess you are one of us, get it straightened out, Carry On.:evilgrin:
yellowwing
12-04-08, 12:40 PM
Yes, I graduated PLT 3110 MCRDPI Nov 26, 2008. No one has posted the link to update avatar, nor have I taken the initiative to have someone post it.
Congratulations Marine! If you picked up any rank you can edit your avatar here (http://www.leatherneck.com/forums/profile.php?do=editavatar). Let me know on that screen name.
ForeverChanged
12-04-08, 01:38 PM
Thanks, and I'll send you a PM on the screen name.
JamesMShaw
12-21-08, 11:36 AM
My apologies ForeverChanged and congratulations.