Dress Blues

[Gunner0331]

ok so here's the deal. i have the ball tomorrow bc i deploy again next month. i've never actually made it to a ball before and i'm not really prepared. where is the placement on the chest? i have four medals and one ribbon and i know the order i was just wondering if anyone could help me out because i'm kind of running late. im sure there are probably other post in here but i'm kinda in a rush. thanks in advance for any input.

[ecfree]

Hey Gunner0331,you need a better profile,beef it up,
Also you must capitalize,no texting type posts...:evilgrin:

[Pete0331]

im sure there are probably other post in here but i'm kinda in a rush. thanks in advance for any input.

So decided to register on a website, and take the time to post a thread, when your first priority should have been to get into contact with another Marine (preferably an NCO) and ask them the question?

Even google would have netted results in a faster manner.

[2ndLAADBnWRENCH]

ok so here's the deal. i have the ball tomorrow bc i deploy again next month. i've never actually made it to a ball before and i'm not really prepared. where is the placement on the chest? i have four medals and one ribbon and i know the order i was just wondering if anyone could help me out because i'm kind of running late. im sure there are probably other post in here but i'm kinda in a rush. thanks in advance for any input.


1. Yeh what he said!!!!!

2. Use your chain of command for leadership without embarrasement to the unit and yourself.

3. Find your prac book or uniform guide or google search dress blue uniform awards regulations.

4. Take the advice from a former Marine NCO discharged in 1993. Put the 3 medals in prescident order centered over left breast pocket and single ribbon centered over right breast pocket and use your ruler or uniform guide tool purchased at the land of the big PX. Back them both with card board fitted to not show when uniform Blouse is worn.

Just my 2 Cents...: (

[Gunner0331]

well sorry Corporal my senior marines arent really too helpful. and i checked google and this is where i ended up. i guess asking some fellow Marines on a Marine website is just ridiculous. i'll make sure to never come back to this website. Medals are the least of my worries right now. i leave next month to a place where the battallion were replacing is in the defense. my main concerns right now are bringing my Marines back home safely. Supernut, OUT.

[outlaw3179]

Stay Safe Marine . 31's SuperGrunt.

[Haffner]

Wear your medals centered over your left breast pocket and between the top and second button on your blouse (does not necessarilly have to be centered between these two buttons). The order of precedence is most senior inboard and least senior outboard.

Semper Fi and stay safe on your deployment.

[Pete0331]

well sorry Corporal my senior marines arent really too helpful. and i checked google and this is where i ended up. i guess asking some fellow Marines on a Marine website is just ridiculous. i'll make sure to never come back to this website. Medals are the least of my worries right now. i leave next month to a place where the battallion were replacing is in the defense. my main concerns right now are bringing my Marines back home safely. Supernut, OUT.


I'm not going to tip-toe through the rose pedaled garden with you when giving an answer. It takes some effort on your part.

Next thing I know Marines are going to be starting threads asking to be picked up because they are to drunk to drive.

[outlaw3179]

Well Pete would you ? Or would you let them drive?

[Pete0331]

Well Pet would you ?
Or would you let them drive?[/QUOTE]

No, but I know they have a chain of command, duty van, fellow Marines, etc. that can help them with that.

[outlaw3179]

oh ok.

[Gunner0331]

Marines like pete are the reason i hate the Marine Corps. Then theres people like outlaw that make me like it. unfortunately theres more petes than there are outlaws so i'm gone after this deployment

[Brewer0311]

Marines like pete are the reason i hate the Marine Corps. Then theres people like outlaw that make me like it. unfortunately theres more petes than there are outlaws so i'm gone after this deployment

Good leave.

Your NCOs should be checking your uniform prior to you going to the ball. Actually, it should have been checked about 3 times by now.

If you've deployed before then you should be able to set up your own stuff no problem. I could understand this question coming from someone straight out of boot, but not someone who has deployed. Even a Marine straight out of boot shouldn't be asking this becuase the information needed is in that green monster your DI's gave you.

Do yourself a favor and just go in Alpha's. If you don't care about the Corps you shouldn't care if you look like a bag of ass.

[2ndLAADBnWRENCH]

2 year Private in the Grunts ?? ???
Gunner 0331
Read my profile Private, its filled out and mostly complete. I spent a great deal of my time with GRUNTS and SPECIAL TYPES. I don't know you but as a NCO I went out of my way to cut you alot of slack and advised you in your time of need. If you didn't understand what I wrote why didn't you address me in the open on the skylight for all to see or in PM? ((((Your a Marine for Christs Sake))) so (((act like it))) !!! And this whinnie oh poor me Bull**** and my Marines deployed is another excuse for attention.. Again, read above!!!! So ya gotta cause another NCO grief in public and ya know him.. Double Again, read above!!!! So now ya hate the Corps and all the help ya didn't get from googling and logging onto this site and ya wanna LEAVE? Tripple Again,read above!!! Uhh, is anything I am recalling on the threads what you wrote ??? Do you get the point??? This is a site for Marine Corps Pride and Team Building of our FUTURE Marines.... Please write me back and give me vast amounts of knowledge and wisedom from a Privates point of veaw... Oh, BTW.... : ( There are ways of finding who you are and passing what you have written on to your chain of command and allowing them to deal with public turds you have layed like land mines on these pages.... I suggest you think very hard about what you have caused and maybe do some appoligizing to those that really were not involved in this mess you have made for yourself do to pisted poor planning.

Semper Fi

JB STARK USMC-USA RETIRED

[Ed Palmer]

You know I have been out for 37 years and I can figure out how to look up information like you are asking for,so what is your problem?
http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/mcub/

[Gunner0331]

Wear your medals centered over your left breast pocket and between the top and second button on your blouse (does not necessarilly have to be centered between these two buttons). The order of precedence is most senior inboard and least senior outboard.

Semper Fi and stay safe on your deployment.
thanks brother, thats all it took

[Gunner0331]

Good leave.

Your NCOs should be checking your uniform prior to you going to the ball. Actually, it should have been checked about 3 times by now.

If you've deployed before then you should be able to set up your own stuff no problem. I could understand this question coming from someone straight out of boot, but not someone who has deployed. Even a Marine straight out of boot shouldn't be asking this becuase the information needed is in that green monster your DI's gave you.

Do yourself a favor and just go in Alpha's. If you don't care about the Corps you shouldn't care if you look like a bag of ass.

i got out of boot and deployed immediately. then i got back and now i'm a sqd leader. all my senior Marines are out now. My section leader didnt know and didnt bother finding out for me so i googled and here i am. Never been to a ball. Sorry i was never taught how to put medals on. I was busy learning things that kept me alive. But anyways thanks for the help, whoever actually tried helping me and not criticizing me for taking things into my own hands.

[cw2533]

Give the Marine a break When I was in the Marines we helped each other and didn't criticize. I guess thats the way we used to do it in the 50's and 60's. Semper Fi Marine and may god speed.

[MotherGoose]

Well hope you have great time at your first Birthday Ball, you deserve it!!
:usmc:

[yourstruley24]

There is a reg book for where your things should be placed on your blues. It is so many inches from top of pocket I am sure you can look it up online. Maybe under Marine Corps Uniform Blues regs.. or something like that. Hope this helps

[Pete0331]

i got out of boot and deployed immediately. then i got back and now i'm a sqd leader. all my senior Marines are out now. My section leader didnt know and didnt bother finding out for me so i googled and here i am. Never been to a ball. Sorry i was never taught how to put medals on. I was busy learning things that kept me alive. But anyways thanks for the help, whoever actually tried helping me and not criticizing me for taking things into my own hands.

Excuses are like ass holes...

I did not criticize you for taking it into your own hands, but for having poor judgment in where you sought help.

You think Marines haven't been in your situation before?
Stop fishing for sympathy on the issue.

[Pete0331]

Marines like Pete are the reason I hate the Marine Corps.

Why, because I don't cut you any slack and require that you show some individual effort?

[outlaw3179]

I did not criticize you for taking it into your own hands, but for having poor judgment in where you sought help.




So let me get this right ? If you want help on something to do with being a Marine, a Marine issue , or anything to do with being a Marine , whatever you do don't go on a Marine website because Pete said so. Give me a break DevilDog.
Help your Marines. Guide them and instruct them. Don't be that Coporal that thinks because he picked up a little rank that you now walk on water. Answer his question, if you dont know it , tell him where you will find the answer and advise to do the same.
Has the Marine Corps gotten so f*cked up now that a Marine is to damn f*cking cool to answer another Marines question? ON THE INTERNET?

[0231Marine]

So let me get this right ? If you want help on something to do with being a Marine, a Marine issue , or anything to do with being a Marine , whatever you do don't go on a Marine website because Pete said so. Give me a break DevilDog.
Help your Marines. Guide them and instruct them. Don't be that Coporal that thinks because he picked up a little rank that you now walk on water. Answer his question, if you dont know it , tell him where you will find the answer and advise to do the same.
Has the Marine Corps gotten so f*cked up now that a Marine is to damn f*cking cool to answer another Marines question? ON THE INTERNET?

No, I think Pete is just a douche bag!

[outlaw3179]

This type of crap really shouldn't be going on. And if it must, do it in private.

The guy posted in the "uniform" subforum to begin with. I thought this is what it is here for.



Slug , fu*ck off. This has nothing to do with you . Go away before a Marine stomps on your neck . Dont ever get in the conversation between Marines. This is how we deal with things. Now fu*k off.

[Osotogary]

USMC
Medals and Decorations, Manner of Wearing
5312. RIBBONS

1. Manner of Wearing. Ribbons are worn on the service coat or jumper of dress blue and dress white, and on the shirt of Service Khaki, Summer White, Winter Blue, and Tropical White. Ribbons are not authorized on formal dress, dinner dress, or working uniforms. Wear up to three ribbons in a single row. When more than three ribbons are authorized, wear them in horizontal rows of three each. If ribbons are not in multiples of three, the top row contains the lesser number, and the center of this row sits over the center of the one below it. Wear ribbons without spaces between ribbons or rows of ribbons. Wear ribbons with the lower edge of the bottom row centered 1/4 inch above the left breast pocket and parallel to the deck. To prevent coat lapels from covering ribbons, ribbons may be aligned so the border to wearer's left is aligned with left side of pocket. Rows of ribbons where more than 50% of the ribbon is covered by the coat lapel may contain two ribbons each and be aligned with left border. On Full Dress uniforms, see Article 5313.

2. Placement on Ribbon Bar. Ribbons may be sewn to uniforms or arranged on a bar(s) and attached to uniforms. Ribbons shall not be impregnated with preservatives which change their appearance, or have any transparent covering.

3. Arrangement. Arrange ribbons in order of precedence in rows from top down, inboard to outboard, within rows. Wear either the three senior ribbons, or all ribbons if you have earned three or more.

4. No Symmetrical Color Designs. Display ribbons which have a symmetrical color design or have stars as part of the design, as follows:

a. American Campaign Service Medal. The dark blue stripe in the center is to the wearer's right.

b. Armed Forces Expeditionary Unit Medal. The blue stripe in the center is to the wearer's right.

c. Asiatic-Pacific Campaign Medal. The dark blue stripe in the center is to the wearer's right.

d. Combat Action Ribbon. The outermost blue stripe is to the wearer's right.

e. European-African Middle Eastern Campaign Medal. The blue stripe in the center is to the wearer's right.

f. Korean Presidential Unit Citation Ribbon. The red portion of the circular device in the center is upper most, and the ribbon has a gold frame.

g. Kuwait Liberation Medal (Kuwait). The black stripe is the uppermost.

h. Medal of Honor Ribbon. The star should form an M with the single ray of all stars pointing up.

i. Merchant Marine Combat Bar. The light blue stripe is uppermost.

j. Merchant Marine Mariner's Ribbon. The red stripe is to the wearer's right.

k. Navy and Marine Corps Ribbon. The blue stripe is to the wearer's right.

l. Navy Occupation Service Ribbon. The black stripe is to the wearer's right.

m. Philippine Defense Ribbon. The stars form a triangle, base down.

n. Philippine Liberation Ribbon. The blue stripe in the center is to the wearer's right.

o. Philippine Republic Presidential Unit Citation Ribbon. The blue stripe is to the wearer's right, worn with gold frame.

p. Presidential Unit Citation Ribbon. The blue stripe is uppermost.

q. World War II Theater Ribbon. The blue stripe in the center is to the wearer's right.

6. Ribbons on Non-Military Uniforms. Personnel who earned service ribbons while a member of the Navy may wear the ribbons on non-military uniforms if the organization sponsoring the non-military uniform permits the custom.

7. Ribbons with Breast Insignia. When you wear ribbons with breast insignia, comply with Section 2 of this Chapter. See Figures 5-2-1 .



5313. RIBBONS WITH MEDALS

1. Manner of Wearing. Wear both large medals and ribbons that do not have corresponding large medals on Full Dress Uniforms. Center ribbons on the right breast in the same relative position as the holding bar of the lowest row of medals. Arrange ribbons in order of precedence in rows from top down and inboard to outboard. Wear either the senior ribbon or all ribbons. These ribbons include: Presidential Unit Citation, Navy Unit Commendation, Meritorious Unit Commendation, Navy "E", Combat Action Ribbon, Navy Fleet Marine Force Ribbon, Sea Service Deployment Ribbon, Foreign Unit Awards, Marksmanship, Sharpshooter ribbons, etc. Personnel awarded only ribbons that do not have corresponding large medals shall wear the ribbons on the right side as mentioned above.

2. Do not wear ribbons on uniforms requiring miniature medals.

5314. LARGE MEDALS

1. Manner of Wearing. Large medals are worn on the service coat or jumper of Full Dress Blues and Full Dress White. When wearing more than one medal, suspend them from a holding bar that supports the medals' weight. Place the holding bar of the lowest row of medals in the same position as the lowest ribbon bar. The bars measure 4-1/8 inches wide, and each row of medals is 3-1/4 inches long from the top of the suspension ribbons to bottom of medals, so that bottom of medals dress in a horizontal line. Multiple rows of ribbons should be grouped with the same number of medals in each row, with the lesser number in the top row if necessary. You may wear a maximum of three medals side by side in a single row with no overlap. Arrange four or more medals (maximum of five in a single row) following the layout in Table 5-3-1. Overlapping shall be proportional and the inboard medal shall show in full. Mount the medals so they cover the suspension ribbons of the medals below.

2. Arrangement. Arrange medals in order of precedence in rows from top down, inboard to outboard, within rows. Service members possessing more than five medals may either wear the five senior medals or all of them.

3. Medal of Honor with Large Medals. When wearing either large or miniature medals, wear the Medal of Honor pendant on a suspension ribbon placed around the neck. When wearing this medal with the men's white service dress coat, place the ribbon outside the coat collar. Place the ribbon between the shirt and coat collar with all other coats.

4. Polishing Medals. Plating or polishing medals is prohibited except personnel assigned to Washington Ceremonial Guard.

5. Medals with Breast Insignia. When wearing large medals with breast insignia, comply with Section 2 of this Chapter. See Figures 5-3-1, 2, 3 and 4.



5315. MINIATURE MEDALS

1. Manner of Wearing. Wear miniature medals with all formal dress uniforms and dinner dress uniforms. Each row of miniatures is 2-1/4 inches long, from top of the suspension ribbons to bottom of medals, so the bottom of medals dress in a horizontal line. Position medals so they cover the suspension ribbons of the medals in the rows below. Male officers and CPO's, and E6 and below: on formal and dinner dress jackets, place the holding bar of the lowest row of miniature medals 3 inches below the notch, centered on the lapel, parallel to the deck (Figure 5-3-5). On blue and white service coats, center the holding bar 1/4 inch above the left breast pocket parallel to the deck (Figures 5-3-6 and 5-3-7). Female officers and CPO's and E6 and below: on formal dress or dinner dress jackets, place the holding bar in the same relative position as on the men's dinner dress jackets, down 1/3 the distance between the shoulder seam and coat hem (Figure 5-3-8). On blue and white coats, center the holding bar 1/4 inch above the left pocket flap parallel to the deck (Figure 5-3-9). E6 and Below: on jumper uniforms, men and women place the holding bar of the lowest ow of miniature medals 1/4 inch above the pocket parallel to the deck (Figure 5-3-10).

2. Arrangement. Wear up to five miniature medals in a row with no overlap. Arrange six or more miniature medals following the layout in Table 5-3-1.

a. Arrange medals in order of precedence in rows from top down, inboard to outboard, within rows. Those people possessing five or more medals may either wear the five senior medals or all of them. On the dinner dress jacket, center up to three miniature medals on the lapel. Position four or more miniatures starting at the inner edge of the lapel extending beyond the lapel on to the body of the jacket.


3. Medal of Honor with Miniature Medals. When wearing miniature medals, wear the Medal of Honor as described in article 5314.3.

4. Miniature Medals with Breast Insignia. When wearing miniature medals with breast insignia, comply with Chapter 5, Section 2.






Note: Text adapted from US Navy Uniform regulations (NAVPERS 1566.5G)

[2ndLAADBnWRENCH]

I got a Private Message reply from gunner 0331 concerning this thread and his actions spelled out by others and myself on this thread. It contained Hi and a Quote box of my warning order letter. I checked his profile again and now he has a L/Cpl avitar, E-1 rank to present, Entry date 2006.. I thought my fellow NCo's just might want to know the skinny on a sour situation..

[Old Marine]

Hey Gary: If he wasn't confused, I would bet he is now.

[2ndLAADBnWRENCH]

This topic thread is ((DEAD)).. The starter of this thread can waste our time helping him all the while he can't even follow simple directions like fill out your profile. Mean while I hear every excuse in the book as to why he can't take care of a uniform wear issue and again constant dumping on his upper chain of command for his failure to adapt improve and over come a challenge. In the midst of it all theres NCO's fighting over this person we know nothing about or the BS he's dumping on us. If I were in this man's Unit and I found out of his antics on an open forum with this kind of behaivior. He would be on extra details forever. When the DD 214 was in his hot little handle all the while doing the Sea Bag Drag out the front gate of our Beloved Corps.

[SupChf]

Not sure what the big deal is. The Marine had a question and asked it. NCO's of all Marines should be the first one's to offer their knowledge. He posted it in the correct forum (good thing, because he would have been blasted if he didn't).

To those NCO's on here that are dishing out the "hostile" remarks....take a look at your NCO Creed and brush up on your leadership traits and principles.

Constructive critism is just that...CONSTRUCTIVE. Anything else just shows a lack of professionalism and tact (refer back to the leadership principles and traits).

Now, not having a complete profile is a violation of the rules..you have to take the heat on that one Gunner!


gunz out ~

[Osotogary]

"Hey Gary: If he wasn't confused, I would bet he is now."- Old Marine

Frankly, Old Marine, I got rather confused reading the regulations myself. LOL. Maybe that is because I am more of a visual person when it comes to learning things. Anyway, I thought that I would submit what I discovered on the internet and see what happened and by doing so elliminating for want of better word.....doubt.

Nice to see you up and about Old Marine. Hope that all is well in your neck of the woods.

[Bulkyker]

Recomend wearing blue bravos. That is ribbons and shooting badges on right chest centered between 1st and 2nd button. Don't jack around with trying to individually place medals on your uniform. You'll spend all night messing with it and it will still look unsat.

[2ndLAADBnWRENCH]

Recomend wearing blue bravos. That is ribbons and shooting badges on right chest centered between 1st and 2nd button. Don't jack around with trying to individually place medals on your uniform. You'll spend all night messing with it and it will still look unsat.


Placement left breast pocket wearing uniform for correction to avove Statement Sgt B and yes that is much simplier than medals. Medals are for Salty ones though when correctly worn..

[Gunner0331]

ok so ill take the heat for not having a complete profile, im new here, i didnt know any better. and secondly i have had lance corporal since the minute i logged on to this sight. and im done with this stupid sh*t about you did this and your NCO's suck that and blah blah. The ball is over and i had a great time. i appreciate all your help and i'm not gonna lie it was pretty motivating(you wont here me say that too often). Regardless i want to thank everyone for your help(if you actually did) and if your one of the ones that arent any help and cant get over your power trip then just dont answer my posts. which i doubt will be very many more of. Semper Fi Marines. supernut, out

[ecfree]

Hey Gunner,stick with us,we're not so bad once you get to know us.
Hell you'll get around to the profile when you're finished blowin off steam.
Stick with us bro...:beer:

[yellowwing]

Gunner, we got 50,000 registered and probably 300 active members. All Marines are Welcome.

Hell no we don't all get along, but we do make good friends with the Marines we do hang with.

[outlaw3179]

Happy Birthday Marine. Whats are you drinking? . I got the first one.

[avenger08]

hey cut the kid some slack, i mean ****, yea so he doesnt like the marine corps. theres alot of marines in my squadron that dont like the Marine Corps. its not because of their attitude, its because alot of nco's these days dont know how to be a good nco. they just think that with rank means that they can slack off and do whatever they like. im sorry but thats not the Marine Corps i wanted to join. now dont get me wrong, i have two great nco's and two great snco's but not every marine has that luxury.

[Bulkyker]

Thanx for the fix 2nd. Brain fart on my part ;)

[thewookie]

hey cut the kid some slack, i mean ****, yea so he doesnt like the marine corps. theres alot of marines in my squadron that dont like the Marine Corps. its not because of their attitude, its because alot of nco's these days dont know how to be a good nco. they just think that with rank means that they can slack off and do whatever they like. im sorry but thats not the Marine Corps i wanted to join. now dont get me wrong, i have two great nco's and two great snco's but not every marine has that luxury.

Don't sweat it, dog. It's was like that when I was in, and I'm sure to some extent, that it was the same before that.

Don't be a follower, be a leader and screw the rest of them. If you're in charge and they won't listen - strap on the gas mask and take them for a moto run. Then you'll get their attention.

But, you have to be a leader 24/7 - not when it's convenient.

[SupChf]

Happy Birthday Marine. Whats are you drinking? . I got the first one.

And after Outlaw's, I'll buy the next one!!!

Gunz out ~

[Sgt Leprechaun]

If you are a LCpl and don't like the Corps, I think that's more the 'norm' than the 'exception' much of the time. Once you get some rank, and get to do more cool stuff and less "Hey, LCpl, clean the head" stuff (also known as Paying your dues) the Corps will grow on you.

That old chestnut of "This ain't the Corps I enlisted for" has been around likely since about 20 November 1775, when some 3 week Marine spouted it to one of the "Old Corps" (10 November 1775) Marines.

LOL.