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Sonic13
10-06-08, 04:22 PM
Has anyone done this new thing yet? It will break you the **** off
RYDERKUR
10-06-08, 04:24 PM
I concur. I felt like a ***** running the ammo cans back on the last leg of it.
I will be doing that combat fitness test this saturday. What do you all do?
PaidinBlood
10-06-08, 06:26 PM
Haven't had the honor just yet but this thing is a joke. I don't mean it is easy, I just think it is pretty pointless. Someone out there (the infamous "them" or maybe even just "Higher") trying to justify their existence. This used to be called training, where "if there is ***** in your heart it will show" <saw that="" on="" a="" ualc="" shirt="">. (seen on a UALC grad shirt) Seriously, though, do we NEED a graded event added to AT? I mean the field fire and the 350pt qual are symptoms of the same sickness. Is it a lack of faith in NCOs to develop their Marines? whatever. Need a drink now.. ha</saw>
I will be doing that combat fitness test this saturday. What do you all do?
What will you do? Report to the POOLEE hall! This place ain't for you.
Has anyone done this new thing yet?
We've actually been practicing it every other week during CO PT for a few months.
I did the 880 meter sprint last week in 2:45 in 45 degree weather and it broke my lungs off!!!
This used to be called training
It still is called training. Now there's an incentive for Marines to do well. If it was scoreless there would be Marines just f*cking off and b*tching their way through it. I look at the CFT as one more way for the Marine Corps to weed out, or at least hold back the nasty, complaining, fat, worthless, out of shape f*ck off skates that I so love to hate.
PaidinBlood
10-06-08, 07:21 PM
I look at the CFT as one more way for the Marine Corps to weed out, or at least hold back the nasty, complaining, fat, worthless, out of shape f*ck off skates that I so love to hate.
Watch where you aim that anger, brother-someone might take offense.. ;)Seriously, though, what your unit is doing is exactly what I am saying is ideal. You should do stuff like this with your Marines regularly, monitoring their progress and working with them. Every job is different, and I can only speak to the 03 side. While much of our routine involves downtime, the job itself dictates a rigorous PT schedule. Even things that are not "PT" are strenuous. It becomes one more AT event to check off. I am not saying that it is so terrible (like I said, haven't run it) and yes, ideally, all of us should be able to do well at this. But we don't need to "simulate" combat simulation (repetition intentional). We simulate combat for a living. Who cares if a clown can pick up ammo cans out on the softball field? Can he keep up with his squad when rushing? Can he deliver the MG rounds to the top of the hill under "fire"? Can he get that rocket to the end of R400? I guess it tests the same things, but differently.
Having run my lips long enough, I guess the truth is even if we don't understand this, we are still Marines and will suck it up and go with the flow...
s/f
Chris
ps-Congrats on the award.
The CFT is stupid.
I just spent the past 8 months hunting the Taliban in Afghanistan, doesn't that qualify?
avenger08
10-09-08, 04:20 AM
**** i did the cft the other night, and i felt like a ***** doing as well, i mean yea i was in itb and we did things similar to this, but that was also almost 9 months ago, now when i do this i realize how weak i got over the past months, but it is definatly an eye opener. i dont know why i hurt so bad doing this since ive been doing pt that breaks me the **** off everytime i do it just to destroy and make my body better but o well, this cft is a good thing at first but, it will either make your career or destroy it in the same process, if you fail its a beefed up page 11, and an adverse fit rep for sgt's and above. im just saying yea they should make this a seperate graded event that doesnt count towards your pft scores. but thats just my opinion.
avenger08
10-09-08, 04:25 AM
[quote=PaidinBlood;396621]Seriously, though, what your unit is doing is exactly what I am saying is ideal. You should do stuff like this with your Marines regularly, monitoring their progress and working with them. Every job is different, and I can only speak to the 03 side. While much of our routine involves downtime, the job itself dictates a rigorous PT schedule. Even things that are not "PT" are strenuous. It becomes one more AT event to check off. I am not saying that it is so terrible (like I said, haven't run it) [quote=PaidinBlood;396621]
the bad thing about the cft is that i dont know if this is for all units, but if you fail not only does it show on your cutting score, and its a adverse fit rep for sgt's and above, but you are put on bcp for a full 6 months, thats not going to help you out at all, marines shouldnt be put on that **** just because you cant get a damn simulated grenade in a certain area after being broken the **** off running with ammo cans and pulling a buddy 25 yards, then running 75 with them in the firemans carry, i work in the airwing, but i also went through the infantry training when i was there, and seriously these guys/gals, cant run this **** and be able to pass it.
Caskins17
10-09-08, 07:05 AM
My senior DI said the combat fitness test was probably going to become mandatory like the PFT. Are they seriously requiring everyone to do it now?
Sonic13
10-10-08, 08:28 PM
Its funny, even the most in shape Marines really get broken down from it. Its stupid, so many ****ing Marines got hurt doing it that its completely not worth it, the corpman was running around everywhere. Yes, being in physical shape is important, but there are better, and safer ways of doing it, and safety is always more imporant. Not running 50 yards doing a firemans carry, then cutting threw cones with 2 heavy ass ammo cans, someone is bound to get hurt almost everytime.
Blizter Soup
10-11-08, 06:45 PM
so..... is this replacing the old pft? or just an addition to it?
Well, for us old geezers who've been out a year or three, can someone point to a description of the CFT? Events, requirements, scores, all that? I remember it being talked about back in 97-98 when I was last in the drilling Reserve, but I dunno what it's ended up looking like.
A URL would be plenty, I want to read up on it before I sound off about it...
SF!
marinemama
10-11-08, 07:55 PM
Well, for us old geezers who've been out a year or three, can someone point to a description of the CFT? Events, requirements, scores, all that? I remember it being talked about back in 97-98 when I was last in the drilling Reserve, but I dunno what it's ended up looking like.
A URL would be plenty, I want to read up on it before I sound off about it...
SF!
Here you go SSgt Maddox
http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=64746&archive=true
Sonic13
10-12-08, 08:20 PM
Well, from what i remember. You start out with a 1 mile sprint, it has to be completed in a certain time. After that you get a 5 minute break and move on to the ammo can lift, you hold the sides of the ammo can while standing up and have to keep lifting it above your head and locking your arms completely out (doesn't sound to hard but there's only so many times you can do it before you can lift it anymore). Then theres the final event, the one everyone is getting hurt on. You start out with a 20 or so yard sprint, dive in the ground and low crawl another 20 yards (don't take my word the yardage im not exactly sure how long it was). From that you have to run and weave inbetween some cones. From that you go and do a buddy drag, between cones also. Then from there you fire mans carry and run your buddy 75 yards, to which you end at 2 heavy ass ammo cans waiting for you. From there you run back with the ammo cans and get to the gernade part. You have to throw a gernade and make it into this little box thing (the more you miss the more points is taken off your score, which is kinda retarded). From there you grab your ammo cans and run the whole 75 yards back with them and then its over, i may have left a few things out but thats pretty much the gist of it.
Sgt Leprechaun
10-13-08, 08:27 AM
It's an addition to the PFT, doesn't replace it.
avenger08
10-13-08, 10:21 PM
Well, from what i remember. You start out with a 1 mile sprint, it has to be completed in a certain time. After that you get a 5 minute break and move on to the ammo can lift, you hold the sides of the ammo can while standing up and have to keep lifting it above your head and locking your arms completely out (doesn't sound to hard but there's only so many times you can do it before you can lift it anymore). Then theres the final event, the one everyone is getting hurt on. You start out with a 20 or so yard sprint, dive in the ground and low crawl another 20 yards (don't take my word the yardage im not exactly sure how long it was). From that you have to run and weave inbetween some cones. From that you go and do a buddy drag, between cones also. Then from there you fire mans carry and run your buddy 75 yards, to which you end at 2 heavy ass ammo cans waiting for you. From there you run back with the ammo cans and get to the gernade part. You have to throw a gernade and make it into this little box thing (the more you miss the more points is taken off your score, which is kinda retarded). From there you grab your ammo cans and run the whole 75 yards back with them and then its over, i may have left a few things out but thats pretty much the gist of it.
they changed it to a half a mile sprint, 45 ammo can lifts then the movement under fire.
Echo_Four_Bravo
10-14-08, 12:08 AM
I think the whole thing is a great idea- for Marines that don't have the 03 in front of their MOS. Honestly, I can see why grunts would be ticked off- they train for this kind of thing and being forced to play a check the box game with training just means some of their training time will have to be geared towards the event and not towards what the event is trying to prepare Marines to do.
For everyone that isn't a grunt, I love the idea. Our PT schedule was geared towards maxing PFT scores, nothing more. Running in PT gear is only so effective, eventually you need to transition to something a little more "realistic". For a grunt carrying an ammo can and throwing a dummy grenade is silly. For a pouge (or POG as it seems to be spelled now) it is at least geared towards something more productive than trying to run 3 miles in 18:00.
Motard101
10-14-08, 04:28 AM
It will brake you off if you out of shape, but hey its only one day a year not really summin i would sit and ***** about.
0231Marine
10-14-08, 07:29 AM
**** i did the cft the other night, and i felt like a ***** doing as well, i mean yea i was in itb and we did things similar to this, but that was also almost 9 months ago, now when i do this i realize how weak i got over the past months, but it is definatly an eye opener. i dont know why i hurt so bad doing this since ive been doing pt that breaks me the **** off everytime i do it just to destroy and make my body better but o well, this cft is a good thing at first but, it will either make your career or destroy it in the same process, if you fail its a beefed up page 11, and an adverse fit rep for sgt's and above. im just saying yea they should make this a seperate graded event that doesnt count towards your pft scores. but thats just my opinion.
Does your keyboard have a (.) I tried reading your post, I mean actually reading it and comprehending but I couldn't get past the fact that that was the longest sentence in the history of sentences.
marineyf
10-14-08, 07:43 AM
I have been training Marines at the fitness center in preparedness for combat, and the CFT is helpful in getting them to focus on the type of training needed to be prepared. I know some people don't like it, but keep in mind that it is going to help everyone in the long run. Since I work in a fitness center, I see how out of shape some Marines (not all) but some are in and that they probably would have a problem if they had to maybe duck under barbed wire, run if fired upon, help a fellow Marine get out of harm's way. The CFT will help people focus on training for speed, agilit, and quickness. :thumbup:
Scottie0417
10-15-08, 12:01 AM
I just ran the CFT with my reserve unit a few weeks ago and it was a lot tougher than what I thought. It was mainly tought because we ran it early in the morning in Michigan so it was pretty chilly out which is always hard on the lungs. Personally I thought it was fun though, it's something different than the standard PFT and requires a lot of stamina