Patriot Act

[Shaffer]

ARCATA, California (AP) -- More than 100 cities and one state have passed resolutions condemning the USA Patriot Act, saying it gives the federal government too much snooping power. But in this liberal fold of Northern California's Redwood Curtain, a simple denouncement just doesn't go far enough.

To cooperate with the act, the City Council says, is criminal.

Starting this month, a new city ordinance would impose a fine of $57 on any city department head who voluntarily complies with investigations or arrests under the aegis of the Patriot Act, the anti-terrorism bill passed after September 11.

Arcata's law is mostly symbolic, since federal law trumps any local ordinance. Still, the notion of civic disobedience is drawing plenty of attention.

"We knew we were doing something a little bit bold," says Dave Meserve, the councilman who sponsored the ordinance. "It certainly did not occur to me that it would catch the imagination of the American public."

In Arcata, the ordinance is the latest in a long line of actions that set the former mill town apart from the flannel-clad conservatism of California's North Coast.

Home to about 16,000 and nearly 300 miles up the coast from San Francisco, Arcata made waves in the early 1990s as the first city with a Green Party majority. Greens now hold two of five seats on the council, which recently issued a proclamation against war in Iraq.

At Northtown Books, one of several businesses lining Arcata's charming town square, employees have followed reaction to the ordinance with interest.

"Some of the reports of what's going on here have made it seem like, 'Oh, it's those crazy hippies in Arcata,"' Jay Herzog said.

The USA Patriot Act gives the government new powers to use wiretaps, electronic surveillance and other information gathering. Opponents say it violates civil liberties; supporters say it has helped fight terrorism.

"The Patriot Act has been an invaluable tool in the government's efforts to prevent terrorist attacks," said Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez, who said the act is constitutional and is being used only against people suspected of acting as agents of a foreign power or foreign terrorist organizations.

But Martinez calls the groundswell of resolutions "merely symbolic. We haven't had an instance where localities are not complying."

[wrbones]

http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Surveillance/Terrorism_militias/20011025_hr3162_usa_patriot_bill.html


The Patriot Act II with commentary:

http://www.dailyrotten.com/source-docs/patriot2draft.html

[mrbsox]

I still maintain that we (the law makers/enforcers) should concentrate on ENFORCING THE LAWS WE ALREADY HAVE, instead of spending Million$, making NEW laws, that probably won't get enforced.

We HAVE laws about under age drinking. ENFORCE them instead of creating support groups.

We HAVE laws against Drinking and Driving. ENFORCE them and these people will be off the streets.

We HAVE (too many) Gun laws. Concentrate on the criminal element, instead of the law abiding population.

The 'PATRIOT ACT' ???
It's called 'Neighborhood Watch'. It's called 'Good ol' American values'. It's called NOT being afraid of getting involved, because some low life will SUE you for your lifes savings. Marines call it 'Watching your Brothers back'. And you trusting him to do the 'RIGHT' thing.

2 cents, and change

Terry

[CplDawson]

How about the original patriot act!

THE SEDITION ACT OF JULY 14, 1798

An Act in addition to the act, entitled "An act for the punishment of certain crimes against the United States."
SEC. I Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, That if any persons shall unlawfully combine or conspire together, with intent to oppose any measure or measures of the government of the United States, which are or shall be directed by proper authority, or to impede the operation of any law of the United States, or to intimidate or prevent any person holding a place or office in or under the government of the United States, from undertaking, performing or executing his trust or duty; and if any person or persons, with intent as aforesaid, shall counsel, advise or attempt to procure any insurrection, riot. unlawful assembly, or combination, whether such conspiracy, threatening, counsel, advice, or attempt shall have the proposed effect or not, he or they shall be deemed guilty of a high misdemeanor, and on conviction, before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding five thousand dollars, and by imprisonment during a term not less than six months nor exceeding five years; and further, at the discretion of the court may be holden to find sureties for his good behaviour in such sum, and for such time, as the said court may direct.

SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That if any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or publishing, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them, or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against the United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.

SEC. 3. And be it further enacted, and declared, That if any person shall be prosecuted under this act, for the writing or publishing any libel aforesaid, it shall be lawful for the defendant, upon the trial of the cause, to give in evidence in his defence, the truth of the matter contained in the publication charged as a libel. And the jury who shall try the cause, shall have a right to determine the law and the fact, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.

SEC. 4. And be it further enacted, That this act shall continue and be in force until the third day of March, one thousand eight hundred and one, and no longer: Provided. That the expiration of the act shall not prevent or defeat a prosecution and punishment of any offence against the law, during the time it shall be in force.

JONATHAN DAYTON, Speaker of the House of Representatives.

THEODORE SEDGWICK, President of the Senate, pro tempore.

APPROVED, July 14, 1798:

JOHN ADAMS, President of the United States.:marine:

[Sixguns]

I agree with mrbsox. Let's start enforcing laws on the books before we go creating more. Perhaps if the laws were already being enforced, there would be no need for new ones.

SF,


SIXGUNS

[mark king]

Originally posted by Shaffer
ARCATA, California (AP) -- More than 100 cities and one state have passed resolutions condemning the USA Patriot Act, saying it gives the federal government too much snooping power. But in this liberal fold of Northern California's Redwood Curtain, a simple denouncement just doesn't go far enough.

To cooperate with the act, the City Council says, is criminal.

Starting this month, a new city ordinance would impose a fine of $57 on any city department head who voluntarily complies with investigations or arrests under the aegis of the Patriot Act, the anti-terrorism bill passed after September 11.

Arcata's law is mostly symbolic, since federal law trumps any local ordinance. Still, the notion of civic disobedience is drawing plenty of attention.

"We knew we were doing something a little bit bold," says Dave Meserve, the councilman who sponsored the ordinance. "It certainly did not occur to me that it would catch the imagination of the American public."

In Arcata, the ordinance is the latest in a long line of actions that set the former mill town apart from the flannel-clad conservatism of California's North Coast.

Home to about 16,000 and nearly 300 miles up the coast from San Francisco, Arcata made waves in the early 1990s as the first city with a Green Party majority. Greens now hold two of five seats on the council, which recently issued a proclamation against war in Iraq.

At Northtown Books, one of several businesses lining Arcata's charming town square, employees have followed reaction to the ordinance with interest.

"Some of the reports of what's going on here have made it seem like, 'Oh, it's those crazy hippies in Arcata,"' Jay Herzog said.

The USA Patriot Act gives the government new powers to use wiretaps, electronic surveillance and other information gathering. Opponents say it violates civil liberties; supporters say it has helped fight terrorism.

"The Patriot Act has been an invaluable tool in the government's efforts to prevent terrorist attacks," said Justice Department spokesman Jorge Martinez, who said the act is constitutional and is being used only against people suspected of acting as agents of a foreign power or foreign terrorist organizations.

But Martinez calls the groundswell of resolutions "merely symbolic. We haven't had an instance where localities are not complying."

its funny what these cities are doing knowing that fed laws trump city laws.

[Cheezballz]

The Patriot Act is a stupid law. It takes away some of our rights as citizens of the United States. It's startin to become Germany 1939 before the 'holocausts' all these hard core conservatives doin what they want to do. We are a country that's attractin terrorist by our unfavored foreign policy towards other nations. Like the Palestine v Israel situation. We suped up the Israeli's to fight mostly against stone throwin palestinians whose homes have been bulldozed in order to build wealthy houses for the expansion of the Israeli expansion. The United States is also suping up the colombian government by givin them black hawks and night vision stuff to fight the militants, but they also fight and burn the farmers who are livin in poverty and the only way they make a livin is to grow 'illegal' narcatics. That's why we have scores of immigrants comin to the U.S. Sure their are the fundamentalist terrorist who decide to blow themselves up and wreck havoc. But let me tell u this. Go back to slavery in the United States. If the African-American population back then knew how to make bombs, but not necissarily blow themselves up, don't yous think they would'v used them. I'm against this act because it's taking away some of our rights. I agree with mrbsox about not makin any laws just enforcin the ones we have right now. Yous probably think i'm stupid but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I hope i made yous think about this situation.

[Shaffer]

U.S. citizens (and aliens for that matter) have too many rights. Just take a look at California and the morons that make up the laws there. Idiots demanded several rights and idiots always complain when one is taken back. Most rights they shouldn't have had in the first place. Take a look at this asinine case going on in Florida were some dumb ass doesn’t want her picture on her license without her veil because she is Muslim. Worst part about it is there are some judges out there that WOULD rule that it is a breech of her rights. Common sense tells you that is idiotic. First of all driving licenses are a privileged not a right. But the U.S. is not based on common sense. Don’t even get me started on the idiots that rule that prisoners rights are violated because they don’t have T.V., cable and internet. Simply said they are idiots!

Cheezball, sounds like you have chosen a username pretty wisely, you don't have a clue. If and when you become a Marine you can state your opinion.

[firstsgtmike]

My personal opinion is that the whole issue is Much Ado About Nothing.

(And PLEASE, don't flame me back talking about civil rights, government intrusion, etc. etc. I'm familiar with ALL of the arguments.)

IF, I was concerned about the issue, and I'm NOT, here's what I would do about it.

I would organize a nationwide protest, and probably get a couple of million people involved, because they would never have to leave their homes, march, or attend rallies.

We would flood the FBI and other Patriotic Act Enforcers with letters, e-mails, and telephone calls.

Once a week I would submit my report, with a separate report for each catagory.

"Hi, this is Mike Farrell's report for the week of 15-22 May 2003.

This is the list of books I read.

"Hi, this is Mike Farrell's report for the week of 15-22 May 2003.

This is the list of people I telephoned with a summary of what we talked about.

"Hi, this is Mike Farrell's report for the week of 15-22 May 2003.

This is a list of people who called me on the telephone and a summary of what was discussed.

"Hi, this is Mike Farrell's report for the week of 15-22 May 2003.

This is a list of the dates, times, and positions used when my wife and I made love this week.

"Hi, this is Mike Farrell's report for the week of 15-22 May 2003.

etc. etc. et. etc.
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I think a few million people each filing ten reports a week would save the enforcers a lot of time, effort, and energy because they would not be required to research the information for themselves.

I REALLY don't understand what the commotion is all about.

[mrbsox]

Whoa nelly.......


The Patriot Act is a stupid law. It takes away some of our rights as citizens of the United States. It's startin to become Germany 1939 before the 'holocausts' all these hard core conservatives doin what they want to do.

Semi agree... semi disagree. Yes, it seems that the 'leftist' are getting away with pretty much what they want. But, WE THE PEOPLE also need to be careful about CONFUSING our RIGHTS, with CONVENIENCE.

Yes, it used to be CONVENIENT to be able to go thru the airport quickly, meet your party at the gate, etc.
But, that was NOT our right. Whenever I get 'checked' going thru airport security, I tell them to "KEEP IT UP" when I'm done.

But let's indeed be careful, when we start to approach the comparison to 1939 Germany. We can still cross State lines without 'PAPERS'. We can go to the store and buy most anything we WANT, or need. Non-Americans (a proper use of the 'hyphanated' phrase) are NOT Oppressed, gathered, detained, harrassed.

We are, in my opinion walking a tight line between 'National Security' and 'Freedom' for our citizens. Loosing a few CONVENIENCES is a small price to pay. But National Security MUST come first, or there is NO Nation to Secure.

We are the banner of HUMAN RIGHTS to the world. We are what most people strive for. This is WHY most immigrants arrived, TO BE AMERICANS. But, we have lost sight of that. Immigrants up to @ 50 years ago wanted to be Americans, and were willing to pay the price. Hard work, hardship, renounce their citizenship to their 'homeland'. Today, they just want the rights and freedoms, WITHOUT the price.

The Patriot act, in my opinion, is dangerously close to 1939 Germany. We should NOT need laws like that. If we just ENFORCE the laws already on the books:

No illeagle immigrants would be here.
No illeagle immigrants would be taking up American jobs.
No illeagle immigrants would be on American Welfare.
No illeagle immigrants would be drawing Social Security.
No illeagle immigrants would be bogging our Court system with BS law suits.
yada, yada, yada,

Terry

[Cheezballz]

I wasn't talkin bout prisoners, and how much is to much for rights, i was just sayin we should keep the same laws we have and enforce them. In a drivers license u'r picture should appear, and that ladies' doesn't so she shouldn't have one, i agree. But towards the patriot act it's just the over board Patriotism that this government feeds you. Patriotism i see was back in WW1, WW2, Revolutionary War, Civil War and all the early wars. Now they just use it as an excuse to fight and take away your rights. And if u defy the laws they label you as being unpatriotic c'mon that's a bunch of crap, isn't being Patriotic your ability to express your rights that this country has to offer and the same country u thank God for lettin u live in such a great country.

[Cheezballz]

How are illegal immigrants takin up welfare if they can't file cause they don't have Social security card, or file for social security. My uncle's boss is a white southerner who always hired Illegals because he said they are cheap and work harder and more effective than whites. If the American business man would stop hirin illegals the economy would go farther down. Everything will be more expensive because we will be payin unions for baggers at a Grocery Store. Illegals are a part of this country and a helpin hand in developin it. Several presidents aknowledge the work of the Illegals. Thanks for workin Illegals and not collectin social when u'r 67.

[wrbones]

Well, CheezBallz. Let me be the first to encourage you to stop posting anywhere but in the POOL-ee Hall or Marine Mentor forums. You have been warned.

We're not here to give you an education in politics, nor to dispute yer ignorance, inexperience or understanding. Personally, I do not have the time for that type of interaction.

We only deal with POOL-ees for one reason and one reason only. To help them to prepare to become Marines. If you do not wish to listen, learn and then become a Marine, I encourage you to take your political discourse elsewhere.

Now. It may be possible for you to PM me or anyone else for knowledge about things political, social, historical, economical, or psychological and if you ask, we may or may not respond to those types of questions.

Do you want to become a Marine?

Please, do not answer on this thread. PM me, or or offer an apology in the POOL-ee Hall forum to the members of the website and then list your reasons for wishing to become a Marine.

This is your second test.

[Barrio_rat]

Originally posted by Cheezballz
The Patriot Act is a stupid law. It takes away some of our rights as citizens of the United States. It's startin to become Germany 1939 before the 'holocausts' all these hard core conservatives doin what they want to do. We are a country that's attractin terrorist by our unfavored foreign policy towards other nations. Like the Palestine v Israel situation. We suped up the Israeli's to fight mostly against stone throwin palestinians whose homes have been bulldozed in order to build wealthy houses for the expansion of the Israeli expansion. The United States is also suping up the colombian government by givin them black hawks and night vision stuff to fight the militants, but they also fight and burn the farmers who are livin in poverty and the only way they make a livin is to grow 'illegal' narcatics. That's why we have scores of immigrants comin to the U.S. Sure their are the fundamentalist terrorist who decide to blow themselves up and wreck havoc. But let me tell u this. Go back to slavery in the United States. If the African-American population back then knew how to make bombs, but not necissarily blow themselves up, don't yous think they would'v used them. I'm against this act because it's taking away some of our rights. I agree with mrbsox about not makin any laws just enforcin the ones we have right now. Yous probably think i'm stupid but hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I hope i made yous think about this situation.

I do not think you are stupid but from what you stated above I’d say a bit misinformed. You’ve used some facts but not all of them - good spinning. As to the Patriot Act being stupid - well, it was enacted by a government that was chosen by the people. I don’t mean the president, as he is only one part of it and he is chosen by the electorate. You are correct that some rights are being infringed upon. This has been happening for many years. I’d say take a look at the early 1800's leading up to the Civil War for any clarification you may want on that. As to Germany in 1939 - there may be some comparisons but those comparisons have been around for a good while. Look to any city, county or state with heavy gun control laws.

If doing the right thing attracts hostile actions - does that mean one should stop doing the right thing? If you helped your neighbor by mowing their lawn or getting their groceries for them and this made another neighbor mad and so they threw eggs at your house, would you stop helping the first neighbor? I know that’s simplistic but serves a point. Israel is an ally - for good or bad and like it or not. As a nation, our government has been fairly neutral with a slant towards Israel. (Some would say too much of a slant while others would say not enough of one) You need to take a look at history. In 1948, when Israel was made a sovereign nation, within hours it was attacked by three other countries. It has been (for the most part) at war ever since. It has had to stay in a mode of readiness for the past 55 years against any hostile action against it and its citizens. If Canada were to attack us with suicide attacks, would we not have the legal and moral obligation as a sovereign nation to defend our homeland? Would we not be well within our rights to attack Canada, taking land, to create a “buffer zone”? Granted, our policies toward Israel and Palestine have been lacking in the past. Should Palestine have been granted sovereignty as well? Probably - but that’s a mute point. Perhaps we should have set up a military base within Israel to curb any hostile actions from outside Israel as well as keeping Israel from attacking its neighbors - again mute as it is hind sight. Israel has been attacked since day one of its existence in the modern era. It has rights as a sovereign nation - under UN and international laws. Did we have the right to attack Germany and Japan in WWII? Of course we did. Did we have the right to keep lands we gained in battle. YES. Doesn’t Israel have the same rights? Take a look at the map below and point out where Israel has been “taking over” and then I may agree with you. As to the “stone throwing Palestinians” I say this - Arafat is a terrorist, he supports and gains funds to support terrorists. He promotes violence - not with stones but with bombs and with firearms - both large and small. Palestinians are raised to HATE the Israelis - this is no exaggeration. They do not wish for peaceful cohabitation with Israel, they want the total annihilation of Israel.

To our actions in Columbia and other parts of South and Central America. It’s been chaotic as long as we’ve tried to have relations with many countries in South and Central America. We do our best. I agree, we should not support any country that commits heinous acts against its citizens - but we have in the past and we continue to do so. China, Korea, Japan, Philippines, several African countries, anywhere in South and Central America, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Russia, England - I’m sure there’s more. All of these countries have had our support at some time in the past and others continue to have our support. All of these countries have committed acts against its citizens that were less than favorable, if not criminal. So, we either become total isolationists or we do the best we can with what we have. What our current administration has, and I’m not defending it, is what has been left by all the administrations of the past - both the good and the bad.

Slavery is a dark part of this county’s history. It is a shame that we, as a nation, ever participated in such a barbaric practice. I wish that the truth on the subject was taught more than the propaganda. While there had been several attempts to end it, it took far too long to bring it to an end and it was one of only two good things to come from the Civil War - the abolition of slavery and the preservation of the Union. This is a subject that can be argued for hours on many different points. To the area where you used it, the slaves were out numbered and surrounded in a country where they would be easily spotted. An extremely difficult environment to be able to stage an uprising or revolt. I would not be surprised if there were times where this might have been attempted but with the manner in which slaves were held, it would have been very difficult, if not impossible, for a coordinated effort.

So here’s something (or things) for you to think about as well. You’re willing to speak your mind and that’s good. You got me to thinking and that’s why I responded with this. My suggestion would be this - don’t believe everything your teachers or even parents tell you, nor what you read in an assigned class/course book. Find out more - research. There are a great many things out there to find out that our classrooms leave out - either due to time or due to politics - but you have to be willing to find them yourself.

[JChristin]

Originally posted by firstsgtmike
My personal opinion is that the whole issue is Much Ado About Nothing.

I would organize a nationwide protest, and probably get a couple of million people involved, because they would never have to leave their homes, march, or attend rallies.

We would flood the FBI and other Patriotic Act Enforcers with letters, e-mails, and telephone calls.

Once a week I would submit my report, with a separate report for each catagory.

I REALLY don't understand what the commotion is all about. \


Once again firstsgtmike, you express it all so well. Let's organize that nationwide protest. The government would be so bored reading about my life...they'd most likely ship me off to Cuba.

semper fi,
jchristin
000,000,001:marine:

[firstsgtmike]

JC:

You see, the only people who feel that they have something to hide are worried about where they can hide it.

I've lived among people who owned nothing more then the loincloth they were wearing.

I guarantee they were not concerned with banking privacy laws, Security Exchange restrictions, Women's Lib, Political Correctness, gun control, green house effect, set asides, Affirmative Action, excessive government restrictions, etc. etc. etc.

And if you asked them what they were hiding behind the loin cloth, it depended upon their endowment as to how fast they would whip it out.

I'm ready to submit a summary of my daily activities, and I'd bore them to tears.

And if envy was a life threatening disease, I'd watch them wreathing on the floor in agony.

If the government ever decided to make contentment and peace of mind a taxable event, I guess I'd have to come up with a ***** every now and then to keep them happy.

Damn! They sold out of sixteen cent beer and I had to pay twenty cents per bottle for the other brand..

Damn! They ran out ouf my eighteen cents per pack cigarettes, and I have to wait until next week until they restock. In the meantime, cigarettes are costing me thirty cents per pack.

Damn! I took my wife, five kids and three maids out to dinner last night. It cost me $20.00. What is this world coming to?

I'd be willing to file a weekly report. I have nothing to hide.

[Phil]

Who said Marines were dumb? Oohrah Devil Dogs! Plain and simple, I have nothing to hide so if The Patriot Act will help ensure our safety, I'm all for it.

[yellowwing]

Being held indefinately without benefit of legal counsel is the point I have a problem with.

Your on vacation at Lake Mead. You pop over with the family to the Hoover dam. You take lots of pictures. Monday morning you are held for 6 months without contact for 'scoping' national infrastructure assets.

I think law enforcement could determine if someone really is a threat within 72 hours. I have that much faith in them.

[firstsgtmike]

"I think law enforcement could determine if someone really is a threat within 72 hours."

I agree. No questions, no reservations.

I'll give them the 72 hours, but they better have a pretty decent track record.

If they are just trying to fill the local hotels with families waiting for the husband's release, they've got a major problem if they mess with me or mine.

[Motor-T]

Its not a big deal to me. I don't think they are going to go door to door. Hell they know all about us anyhow,computers are a wonderful thing.
If it walks like a duck and it quacks likes a duck and it looks like a duck,I would say they are going to find out if it really is a duck.

[Art Petersn]

I thought this might be the place to posts this

This says it all!



After hearing that the state of Florida changed its opinion and let a Muslim woman have her picture on her driver's license with her face covered this is an editorial written by an American citizen, published in a Tampa newspaper. He did quite a job; didn't he? Read on, please!

IMMIGRANTS, NOT AMERICANS, MUST ADAPT. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Americans. However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the "politically correct" crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others.

I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to America. Our population is almost entirely made up of descendants of immigrants. However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand. This idea of America being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Americans, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle. This culture has been developed over centuries of struggles, trials, and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom.

We speak ENGLISH, not Spanish, Portuguese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, learn the language!

"In God We Trust" is our national motto. This is not some Christian, right wing, political slogan. We adopted this motto because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.

If Stars and Stripes offend you, or you don't like Uncle Sam, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. This is OUR COUNTRY, our land, and our lifestyle. Our First Amendment gives every! citizen the right to express his opinion and we will allow you every opportunity to do so. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about our flag, our pledge, our national motto, or our way of life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great American freedom, THE RIGHT TO LEAVE