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BadLuckChuck
07-17-08, 05:04 PM
When did the The Corps adopt the M14s into the chevrons?

sparkie
07-17-08, 06:05 PM
Look closer,,,,, Could it be an M1? Or a Springfield?

Old Marine
07-17-08, 06:59 PM
I have an Expert shooting badge with the 03's.

BadLuckChuck
07-17-08, 10:15 PM
Look closer,,,,, Could it be an M1? Or a Springfield?

Are you sure bro? I always thought and I think I was told at one point that the crossed rifles were M14 Carbines.

semperfi170
07-18-08, 12:00 AM
One way is to backtrack to when the crossed rifles were added to the chevrons. The rifles on the chevrons are probably (my guess) based on the rifle in use at that time.

sparkie
07-18-08, 05:54 AM
Are you sure bro? I always thought and I think I was told at one point that the crossed rifles were M14 Carbines.

I have no idea:beer:

silverdollar
07-18-08, 08:04 AM
I got out in 58. no rifles, we used M1 Garand.

semperfi170
07-18-08, 08:57 AM
Do any of our Marines that were active duty, remember when the switch to chevrons with crossed rifles took place?

sparkie
07-18-08, 04:17 PM
Tried hard to google that one,,,, no go. Meebe the are Red Riders,,,,, Right time frame.

Sure as he11 they ain't air soft.

jerryk
07-18-08, 06:02 PM
think it was when they added the rank l/cpl

sparkie
07-18-08, 06:11 PM
think it was when they added the rank l/cpl


What rifle???????

ggyoung
07-18-08, 06:12 PM
I think it was late 1949 or early 1960. Have a friend who got out some time in 1960 and he was in for the change. He was a E-4 Sgt. On the day of the change he was promoted to E-5 Sgt.

Phantom Winger
07-18-08, 06:32 PM
Do any of our Marines that were active duty, remember when the switch to chevrons with crossed rifles took place?

From what I could find it was 1959 when the Marine Corps moved to the new rank structure and crossed rifles were added. It coincided with the timeframe that the formal rank of Gunnery Sgt was re-instated which fell by the wayside in 1937. Technical Sergeants were referred to informally as "Gunny" during this time period.

Pretty good sites:

http://www20.brinkster.com/gunnyg/gyhistory.html
http://www.chadduck.com/ymarines/trivia/rankhistory.htm
http://www.angelfire.com/ca4/gunnyg/enlrank.html

Phantom Winger
07-18-08, 06:34 PM
....and the crossed rifles are M1 Garands.

bucksgted
07-18-08, 09:24 PM
The new rank structure was announced in Oct, 1958 with implementation starting in January 1959. When I was in Taiwan in '58 & '59 we had our first "crossed rifles" promotion to M/Sgt. M/Sgt William Wyatt is his name and the parade was held in Ping Tung in Feb/Mar 1959. My promotion to Sgt was 6/01/58 and I continued to wear the Sgt stripes until I departed active duty in Feb. 1960. Those of us that had the "old" rank structure were lovingly refered to as "Acting Sergeant" Mason. To which most of us replied, "stick the acting up your a$$".

The Corps was supposed to allow the old rank until sometime in late '60 or early '61. However, depending on the Command you might be attached to, you might not have had that long. I know of some S/Sgts (really hard core old school kinda Staffs) that were not allowed to go to the Staff NCO Club until they got their "crossed rifles" starting in 1960.

That concludes todays History Lesson. Class dismissed.