Why can't females be infantry?

[Bonzack]

I've searched the net and I just want a black and white answer. The only thing I've found is that the muscles are built differently in a female so we can't do the same things as males.
The whole tank thing confuses me too.
So why can't females be infantry or work on tanks and stuff?

[FREED0M]

I've always heard that its because they don't want grunts screwing in the fox holes.

[sparkie]

Sorry for my answer, of which you may resent and find lacking in reason.

Best I can figure, our speces is 25,000 years old, more or less.

Since our creation, man was the protector of women.

Woman were the gatherer-life giver, man was the hunter-protector.

Things do change,,,but slowly, and not always for the better.

Isarel has had women in combat for a long time now,,,,,,,however,,,,
For a woman to be in combat, a man has to care less of the traditional role. Has to turn aside instinct, has to let go.

I am old fashoned,therefore I would not want to see you die before me.

If I don't fight for your well being, what am I good for?

Thats my job!!!!!!!!!

BTW,,,Nice Myspace Pic,,,, However, this ain't Myspace.

[Bonzack]

Hmm. Thats interesting. I just think that since men and women are supposed to be "equal" they would make it so women would be on the front lines too. I would like to be infantry. Just so I could be a bad ***.

[sparkie]

Men and Women are equal in the shadow of the cross, but different in roles.

You wanna be a bad@@@?, good start by being a smart@@@
A badazz is an idiot without potty training,,,, A wariror has a brain, a direction, and a goal. A belief in a cause bigger than him/her self.

[yellowwing]

The closest you can get is Military Police. No women can't be Combat Arms, but they do occasionally see action in Iraq when they go on convoy escort and manning check points to search Iraqi women. Being a women doesn't stop the insugents from trying to kill them. Several women have given that last full measure of devotion.

[Bonzack]

Ha. I was just kidding. I definately have a bigger goal than just being cool.


I never thought about being military police..hmmm...

[dutch1291]

In my opinion, equality has nothing to do with this situation. It involves the roles that we were given not only by God, but by nature. It is (like it was stated earlier) our job as males to protect you whether or not you want to be protected.

[Tom88]

This might not be accurate at all, but I always heard the military didn't want women fighting next to men because if both a male and female soldier are being fired at, the male is more likely to try and engage the female's attackers rather than engaging his own enemy or whatever. Not that I'm making the assertion that soldiers shouldn't do everything to help each other out in every way possible, but that's just what I've been told. Just my two cents. : )

Edit: Looks like I'm regurgitating what's been said. My bad.

[sparkie]

While you are here on our site,,,,And wellcome, by the way,, consider maturity.
We have a wonderful WM here, Sis, Marine 84. In ordy, strapping bombs and missiles. I am convenced every day she did her USMC job,,,, she took to heart, knowing she was a big important part of the cause.....


Maybe you should discuss your question with her?.

[SCrawford]

You really wanna be around a bunch of horny guys out in a combat zone? Doesn't sound to smart to me. You will be around guys who are in a high stress situation... if you get where Im going... Plus if you died in combat how do you think all those men would feel like? If I ever saw a woman that was in my squad who is dead or dieing I think it would be harder than a male.

[Bonzack]

Hmmm..thanks guys! =]

[CH53MetalMan]

I can't fathom how the Army has men and women training side by side in their boot camp? And they've been doing this for many years.

When I was in the Corps 78 - 82, me and my fellow Marines always viewed a WM as a woman first and a Marine second. I knew one wacko that would salute any female officer, from any branch of the services, by saying that he first salutes her for being a beautiful woman and secondly salutes her for being an officer in whatever branch of the service she happened to be in. Luckily he always caught them off guard and they were somewhat flattered.

[Quinbo]

Sparkie is spot on in his reply.
I'm trying to avoid sounding cheuvenistic in my reply. In general terms women do not have the same physical abilities of men. Generally speaking not you in particular. Woman also have day to day and month to month health and hygeine requirements that men do not. You might suggest to higher ups the creation of an all female infantry battlion. Who knows it might fly. Of course you would have to find a thousand or so females willing to join it. There in lies another problem. Maybe one you can solve.

We could also come up with an alternate MCCRE for female infantry battalions ... much as the female PFT is the same but different.

I can tell you from experience that infantry is not all it's cracked up to be. You aren't out there kicking down doors and breaking things on a daily basis. What you are doing is praying to live another day and hoping that next hill doesn't royally kick your ass before you make it to the top. There is nothing glamorous about coming out of the field after a week or a month and spending the next hour in the rain room taking a cold shower and using a bar of lava soap trying and get the camo paint and dirt and sweat off your face. Ohh crap I forgot. No females allowed in that shower .... we got to build a special shower just for you and provide a guard so no grunt tries to oggle your naked butt while you wash up. There is no thrill in setting up a junk on the bunk inspection afterwards to ensure you haven't lost or damaged any of your gear and that it is clean. Dang it again. You can't stay in a male squadbay, so we need to build a special squadbay just for you so that you can stand the JOB and sleep without uncle pervy paying you a midnight visit.

[SlingerDun]

since men and women are supposed to be "equal"Quotations noted: we aren't created 'equal' and aren't supposed to be. Evident in the vast and complex differences at birth. We also cannot eventually obtain equality, no matter how many surgeries and personality makeovers a trans-gender undergoes they will never totally cross over. Most parents are very aware that you cannot raise male and female children equally, it just doesn't workout.

I've labored hard in skillful occupations with women who were just as handy as myself or more so, thats fine i respect competence. But don't be fooled, the battle of the sexes is alive and well especially in younger people jockeying for position in life at a tough occupation in nasty conditions. There will always be underlying awareness or tension from both genders that can get coarse and edgy which is due not only to tradition but the scientific innate differences that an "equality" movement can never change or amend.

Then theres the obvious distractions from dutyhttp://www.leatherneck.com/forums/images/icons/icon6.gif

--->Dave

[SlingerDun]

hoping that next hill doesn't royally kick your ass before you make it to the topHoping? Come on pard you KNOW it's gonna kick your ass hehehe. Heard tell thats one reason a grunt smokes, cause your gonna be suckin wind anyway so WTF:marine:

[jetdoc]

I do know females have been snipers in Russia and other countries, and are/were way bad azz.

The Soviets had about 2000 females snipers during WWII, the best was Lyudmila Mikhailovna Pavlichenko, she had over 300 kills.

http://www.snipersparadise.com/history/pavlichenk.htm

[Marine84]

Bonz - you'll be a bad a$$ just because you're a pretty girl AND you'll be in a Marine Corps uniform.

I haven't even figured out WHY men want to be Grunts, I sure as hell can't figure out why females do. All you need to remember is practice really good birth control, show the guys you end up working with that you will at least try something that's hard for you to do and not b!tch about doing it the whole time. In return, they'll give you BIG shoulders to cry (and you WILL cry at some point) on when you need one. That's what Brothers do for their Sisters.

[jetdoc]

Kim, I'm with you sister, why would anyone want to be a grunt, lol. I'll take my jets, tools and hotels....or if we have to rough it, Air Force barracks.

[sparkie]

Kim, I'm with you sister, why would anyone want to be a grunt, lol. I'll take my jets, tools and hotels....or if we have to rough it, Air Force barracks.

LMFAO......... Room service?????? Yea, I wanna order. :flag:

[Quinbo]

I **** you not ... there is nothing like hanging on to a turd like it is money so that you can eventually lay an egg on a a porcelein stool. Come out of the field and that is the first thing on your mind. Go into the head and there is 12 stools on the right, 12 stools on the left. All facing each other... not walls ... no fans. You and others facing each other red faced and groaning. Hey can you pass me the **** paper? Sure .... next

[Brewer0311]

I **** you not ... there is nothing like hanging on to a turd like it is money so that you can eventually lay an egg on a a porcelein stool. Come out of the field and that is the first thing on your mind.

Two thumbs up! :thumbup::thumbup: That is 110% the truth.

[Zulu 36]

A big part of the reason females can't be in combat arms (note I didn't say "in combat") is physical strength and an inability to shut off hormones in both genders.

There might be a few women out there strong enough to be an infantryman 24/7 in a combat zone. They will be rare. I've known a couple of women who could do a decent job - as long as they didn't have to carry ten-gazillion pounds of stuff all day long.

Physiologically women are constructed differently. They are designed to make and care for babies as a primary duty (lets be honest here). Men are designed to do the heavy lifting (hunting, fighting, etc). Men don't have a womb or breasts. Women don't have the muscular- skeletal structure for really heavy work. Remember, we are not talking about intellect here, just the physical.

I know there have been studies conducted on injury rates in Marine recruits and MCT students, broken down by gender. I can't put my finger on the studies, but generally female recruits suffer lower body injuries (hips and lower) at a significantly higher percentage rate than do male recruits. This phenomenon started right after the Corps began to train female recruits like male recruits. Some of our lady Marines can probably verify this.

The Army has also seen a similar increase in female recruit injuries. The Air Force and Navy hasn't seen such a high increase, as recruit training in those branches requires less heavy equipment carrying combined with strenuous activity.

Why? Because a woman's body is not designed to be an infantryman or anything close to it. All one has to do is look at x-rays or accurate anatomical drawings of men and women and see how different the pelvic and leg bones are (size and angles).

Yes, women can and have done infantry stuff quite proficiently, but only over the short-term. Even then they generally were not as fully loaded as a grunt would possibly be.

I haven't even addressed the hormone issue - just see how it works in non-combat arms units. It would get worse in a combat arms unit.

[bgsuwoody]

I **** you not ... there is nothing like hanging on to a turd like it is money so that you can eventually lay an egg on a a porcelein stool. Come out of the field and that is the first thing on your mind. Go into the head and there is 12 stools on the right, 12 stools on the left. All facing each other... not walls ... no fans. You and others facing each other red faced and groaning. Hey can you pass me the **** paper? Sure .... next


You forgot to add that there is a line of two people in front of each of the stalls waiting for their turn to take a **** talking to you and staring just waiting for their turn to ruin the porcelain god.

[Bonzack]

Bonz - you'll be a bad a$$ just because you're a pretty girl AND you'll be in a Marine Corps uniform.

I haven't even figured out WHY men want to be Grunts, I sure as hell can't figure out why females do. All you need to remember is practice really good birth control, show the guys you end up working with that you will at least try something that's hard for you to do and not b!tch about doing it the whole time. In return, they'll give you BIG shoulders to cry (and you WILL cry at some point) on when you need one. That's what Brothers do for their Sisters.


I see. Thanks. =] This all answers my question..and now I dont want to be infantry anymore. lol!:D

[Marine84]

OH! And if you're going to hang with them Bonz, you have to have really thick skin and don't go running to the higher ups when one calls you something you don't like. Kick it back to em.

[Bonzack]

Yeah I don't think I'll have to worry about that. Ha. I have pretty thick skin when it comes to that. I just shrug it off. I don't have many female friends so I'm used to hanging around guys and stuff..especially at the recruiting office. I'm there 4 times a week.

[sparkie]

Good to go, Bonz.

[Gary Hall]

Bonzack: A timely & worthy post, with considerate & thoughtful replies. I appreciate all the views & comments. Thanks Marines. Sparkie, Bulkyker, Slinger, dutch, your replies are reassuring. Sparkie, the reference to Israel and her Army confirms my experiences there. I would hope we can all agree that females were intended to give life, not take it. Kindest regards, Gary Hall.

[CHOPPER7199]

What A World, A Man Plants The Seed For The Woman To Carry For 9 Months. Then The Man Again Takes That Same Step To Plant The Seed To A Grave. War Is Hell.

[Bonzack]

=] I'm actualy happy I got responses from INTELLIGENT people. I posted this question on a different website and all I got were morons asking if I wanted to cyber. Ew. Pervs.

Anyway. Thank you again Marines. Very helpful.

[Sam331]

Yeah those before me have pretty much answered your question. Would just like to add, that I read in an article (can't remember name or link) that Canada at one point opened its Infantry to woman. They found that few if any females were capable of doing the same things they had the males do. In the end I believe I read that they had to lower the standards for females in the Infantry. I say if you're able to do the same exact thing as the opposite sex, you should be given a chance to do so. At the same time I believe females should be held to the same standards and requirements as the male.

[bgsuwoody]

Well I wasn't going to respond to this, but I will.

First off women are built differently than men, and the physical demands of this job require a certain type of people. You will find the men that are unable to do it (fall out of humps, cannot pt, etc. etc.) however, MOST women will be unable to handle the rigors of the job or will be unable to do something as simple as firemans carry another male and their gear to a CCP. This makes them a liability and a concern. You must also ask if a woman could go hand to hand with a 250 lb insurgent?

Secondly, have you ever seen a group of Marines when any semi-attractive woman walks by. **** even in formation. Every head turns, there's cat calling etc. etc. With women in the infantry it can easily breed to problems. Millions of reasons to distract the men from doing their job and the women as well. Sex is one of the only things that can trump survival in nature.

As well men have a certain biological tweak that makes them the protector of women. This causes them to not only do things to protect them, but may cause them to be overly protective of them in certain wartime circumstances. Especially being overwatchful over one person instead of the squad etc. As well seeing a woman get injured (and screaming) or die on the battlefield can cause serious effects to the men in the unit because of this.

Most women are also biologicaly tweaked to be the nurturer and person who cares. This breeds a problem in that often they do not want to kill and the aftereffects of this killing can lead to serious PTSD or otherwise. This can cause serious problems in the infantry if any doubt to take a life occurs in the heat of battle.

Lets not mention that women in this Marine Corps are held to different standards, and often lower standards. This can cause a problem in promotions and ability standards in the grunt units. Its bad enough when some Security Forces no nothing comes in and takes a battle tested Lance Corporals job because he is higher ranking cause promotions are faster, imagine if this happened with women taking the jobs. Serious issue, if the standards remain different.

Lets not even mention pregnancy. Taking a man (woman in this case) from the direct fight in order to have a child is perposterous. I cant imagine losing an individual to something like that. We are clawing and scratching for every individual to have in these platoons, we can't lose them to something like pregnancy...they do enough dumb **** on their own (DUI, drugs, UA, etc.)

Also the woman's rights effort to establish seperate but equal facilities and the like, would cause serious problems on the grunt unit. How long until someone demands their own shower facilities or otherwise and we are forced to spend more manpower, money, and effort to create another facility everywhere we go. Would she stay in the same barraks as the males, how bout on the field. Someone would complain. How in cramped areas, such as tanks, hooches, and the like, would women be able to take care of their basic sanitation issues. Especially "that time of the month" The confined space in which we work makes this tough as well.

I think I have wasted your time enough with what I think. I can give a lot more reasons, but here are a few. I'm ready for the backlash, but I think I could argue this one all day.

[BR34]

I'm ready for the backlash, but I think I could argue this one all day.

Damn man, I don't think there will be any backlash, you just said the exact same things that about 5 other Marines have said in this thread. lol, you gotta read these things first.

[Marine84]

Woody, you couldn't have said it better if you had tried hard.

[Achped]

Woody, I love you dude...

We all know what happens when a WM walks by a group of guys, ESPECIALLY combat arms Marines, who NEVER work with females....mmmmm I loveeeeeee a girl in Charlies! Those curves and....

Well, now you know why I have a kid on the way.

[Marine84]

We all know what happens when a WM walks by a group of guys, ESPECIALLY combat arms Marines, who NEVER work with females....mmmmm I loveeeeeee a girl in Charlies! Those curves and....


Suck-errrrr ;)

[sparkie]

The Incredible Camoflagued Woman,,,,,,,,,Making a movie in my head,,,,,,,,,,

[FREED0M]

The Incredible Camoflagued Woman,,,,,,,,,Making a movie in my head,,,,,,,,,,


Whipped cream and grease paint... I'd watch that movie... many, many times.

[Quinbo]

I'm trying to picture time on ship with a female in an infantry battalion ... instantly that sound track from debbie does dallas comes to mind ... ba ba brink bran.

A female on ship with an infantry unit would get special berthing and special privalages. Male grunts on field day ... well hell we heaved out and thriced up and got a good sweep job fore and aft. Female grunts .. the AC wasn't working so well but I managed to get a few hours sleep. My room is clean. Hey did you know the captains state room has ice and coffee? That would all amount to discontent among the sexes. Here you go carry this roll of comm wire and a five gallon jug of water. Crap that is too heavy for me .... I gave smuckatelly some ass yesterday and he owes me a favor ... have him carry it. Well hell smuckatelly is already carrying two rolls of comm wire and 2 5 gallon jugs of water ... can you at least hump this box of MRE's ... no sergeant I can't .. I have cramps and am in a *****ey mood. Ok can you ... LOL ;)

[jetdoc]

Woody, I love you dude...

We all know what happens when a WM walks by a group of guys, ESPECIALLY combat arms Marines, who NEVER work with females....mmmmm I loveeeeeee a girl in Charlies! Those curves and....

Well, now you know why I have a kid on the way.

Matt, as you may know by now the reason the female Marine is walking PAST the grunts is she is heading over the the Air Winger side of the Corps....;)

[Marine84]

Matt, as you may know by now the reason the female Marine is walking PAST the grunts is she is heading over the the Air Winger side of the Corps....;)

WOOHOO! :banana: You got THAT right!

[sparkie]

Oh, no,,,,, This crap again. "Fly ME"

[Finger]

Sorry I was late getting in on this one. Just moved into my new home back here in NC.

When I was training Midshipmen in the 80's, the Marine Corps was having female Candidates put on all the battle gear and going through obstacle courses and such just like the men. The reason we stopped was we were ending the career of some good Marines. I never saw so many fractures, damaged muscles, tendon and ligament problems in my life. By the third week we had another platoon that had to be driven everywhere because they were unable to walk or at least not without the aid of crutches. There are a very small percentage of females who can hack the physical demands of real Infantry training. Common sense had us stop this idea.

Heat injuries are another problem. Females naturally have a higher percentage of body fat. That is for a very good biological reason, in fact if it gets too low most women will stop having their cycle. When they get that low on fat they may be great marathon runners or gymnasts, but not in a position where they have to carry all that weight in rugged terrain or heat.

None of this means a female cannot be a good Marine or a great combat asset, just not in the Infantry.

S/F
Finger

[FistFu68]

:usmc: They want Equality,Fuc it;Let them in The Grunts.Men have been being Put in Body bag's way too long.Now it's time for You women,Too start doing You'r share of The dying also.Common Macho Woman,be the 1st. One on you'r block;Too come Home in a Wooden Box. :scared: :iwo:

[egbutler1]

I'm all for equality and stuff, but I don't think women should take part in combat arms. I don't think I would treat WM's any different in combat than i would a Male Marine, but who knows. Women are built differently than men, I know I had trouble dragging a Marine with a full load of combat gear to safety after he was injured, and I'm a big guy plenty strong. I don't think a women could accomplish that task at-least not with out endangering herself and the squad. Now i'm not here saying a women couldn't do this, no I just saying that it would be rough for her. Also in my time in we did 24 mile humps with 80lbs rucks and had to carry crew-serve weapons which included 1 .50 cal complete with tripod 2 spare barrels and the A-bag. 1 240 G complete with tripod and 2 spare barrels and A-bag. 3 M249 Saws complete. 1 Mortar tube with base plate, sometimes we would hump the Mk-19 complete with tripod. And that was per squad so we only had a brief break where one or two Marines at a time where only carrying everyones rifle. I saw many men breakdown and fall out almost in tears (including myself when I had to carry the MK-19), guys having no skin on their feet and blood soaked boots. I just don't think a normal sized WM would be able to do that. Granted there is really not a need to Hump all that equipment anymore we have vehicles to do that but still we trained for it anything can happen. After doing that I became a firm believer of "If you cant truck it, f*ck it". And after i PCSed to my new unit i put that saying into effect. KILL!

[thewookie]

Enough of this PC mumbo jumbo,,,

If God wanted chics to be in the Marine Corps Infantry then he would have given them some brains.

Get in the kitchen honey....

:D

MOST of em just can not handle the pounding,,, physically or mentally.

I'm outa here....

[jetdoc]

Enough of this PC mumbo jumbo,,,

If God wanted chics to be in the Marine Corps Infantry then he would have given them some brains.

Get in the kitchen honey....

:D

MOST of em just can not handle the pounding,,, physically or mentally.

I'm outa here....

Wow what a tough guy, :D

[SGT-JOHN-ADDY]

Mp's And Combat Engineers Are The Only Combat Arms Mos That A Female Can Join. I Know The Combat Engineer Mos For A Fact Because I Had A Female In My Mos Class. But They Just Can't Do Division Side.

[sparkie]

Enough of this PC mumbo jumbo,,,

If God wanted chics to be in the Marine Corps Infantry then he would have given them some brains.

Get in the kitchen honey....

:D

MOST of em just can not handle the pounding,,, physically or mentally.

I'm outa here....

You're draggin your knuckles again,,,,,,,,:beer:

[Marine84]

Wookie - kiss my entire fuzzy a$$ - LOL!

[SGT-JOHN-ADDY]

You Tell Him Marine84.........

[ZSKI]

Eh there is some truth to what he said. I remember in MCT every single female in the company nearly fell out in the hike all the males ended up carrying there packs. I swear i was carrying my god dam body weight on those humps because of there gear too.

[jetdoc]

Eh there is some truth to what he said. I remember in MCT every single female in the company nearly fell out in the hike all the males ended up carrying there packs. I swear i was carrying my god dam body weight on those humps because of there gear too.

And as Sparkie knows, while you cats were humping their gear us Air Wingers were humping the female Marines....NICE!!!!

[thewookie]

Eh there is some truth to what he said. I remember in MCT every single female in the company nearly fell out in the hike all the males ended up carrying there packs. I swear i was carrying my god dam body weight on those humps because of there gear too.


Thank you ZSKI, for seeing through my BS to the truth. I was only kidding of course about the brain thing, growing up Italian with two sisters will do that!

But in all seriousness, once you get past the obvious issues like, where do they live, how are they treated, all that crapola. The fact of the matter is most women can not handle the day to day physical pounding of being a grunt. Any other issue is kinda moot, to me.

There may be a few woman who can, but not many, and it's not like having one girl in an infantry platoon is going to be symbolic or anything. Like the one girl in HS that makes the boys varsity hockey team.

If they ever allowed it, say you got one or two that are real butch or hard core; I guess it would make for a nice Sunday afternoon movie on Lifetime, but it will really fock up the whole platoon.

Too many issues...

There are things that a woman can do that a man can not do, can we just leave it like that? Can there be a few things in life that we do not fock up?

Guys can't make kids....:D alone...

[jetdoc]

Wookie - kiss my entire fuzzy a$$ - LOL!

The fuzzy part is what gets me, babes should only have hair on their head and eyebrows, and eyelashes as well, lol.

But I get your point and as I've stated here, females have made some real kick azz snipers throughout history. Not our history of course.

[thewookie]

The fuzzy part is what gets me, babes should only have hair on their head and eyebrows, and eyelashes as well, lol.

But I get your point and as I've stated here, females have made some real kick azz snipers throughout history. Not our history of course.

I wasn't going there jetdoc, had me wondering too!:scared:

[A V Cioffi]

I've searched the net and I just want a black and white answer. The only thing I've found is that the muscles are built differently in a female so we can't do the same things as males.
The whole tank thing confuses me too.
So why can't females be infantry or work on tanks and stuff?

Aside from all the very valid reasons already posted on this, logistically it would be a nightmare. Marines deploy on crouded ships constantly and there's already no space in the "bathrooms"...

[thewookie]

The fuzzy part is what gets me, babes should only have hair on their head and eyebrows, and eyelashes as well, lol.

But I get your point and as I've stated here, females have made some real kick azz snipers throughout history. Not our history of course.

There is some history of that overseas.. way back when,, and even now probably in Iraq, one of those female insurgent pigs or something...

I'll admit, I saw some good ;) female shooters working on the range over the years... there's also been a few of them that have made it to the USMC Rifle or Pistol Shooting Teams.

BUT, a female would never make it through the same process that a US Marine takes to become a Scout Sniper. That is - boot camp, SOI, unit, selection to STA, earn a seat to SS school, and then graduate from SS school, no way..

Maybe one or two out of a billion...

I have heard the US Army lets them do some DM type stuff, but that is another story and their problem.

[jetdoc]

There is some history of that overseas.. way back when,, and even now probably in Iraq, one of those female insurgent pigs or something...

I'll admit, I saw some good ;) female shooters working on the range over the years... there's also been a few of them that have made it to the USMC Rifle or Pistol Shooting Teams.

BUT, a female would never make it through the same process that a US Marine takes to become a Scout Sniper. That is - boot camp, SOI, unit, selection to STA, earn a seat to SS school, and then graduate from SS school, no way..

Maybe one or two out of a billion...

I have heard the US Army lets them do some DM type stuff, but that is another story and their problem.

I hear you Wook, I did post that link with that Russian female during WWII that had over 300 confirmed kills.

When I was researching for that Russian female sniper I saw lots of posts from males and females that said females are naturally better shooters than males, I was like, WTF? I dunno.

Also Wook, as far as the fuzz stuff goes, you know me, I've got a big mouth and HAD to ask....so far Kim hasn't replied back, humm, :D

[Marine84]

I'm a Georgia Peach......................you ever seen a peach that wasn't fuzzy?

[jetdoc]

I'm a Georgia Peach......................you ever seen a peach that wasn't fuzzy?

Sure, the good ole' non fuzzy Georgia Peach, yummy, yummy.

[SlingerDun]

Thank you ZSKI, for seeing through my BS to the truthhehehehehe cough
i got two sisters also, they aint Italian but i learned to fend off many a bushwacking:yes:

[Magick23]

I've always heard that its because they don't want grunts screwing in the fox holes.

I thought the Marine Corps called them fightning holes and not fox holes:p

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: GRUNTS DO IT DEEPER~ALL THE WAY UP TOO THE 'STACHE :p :banana:

[ZSKI]

I hear you Wook, I did post that link with that Russian female during WWII that had over 300 confirmed kills.

When I was researching for that Russian female sniper I saw lots of posts from males and females that said females are naturally better shooters than males, I was like, WTF? I dunno.

Also Wook, as far as the fuzz stuff goes, you know me, I've got a big mouth and HAD to ask....so far Kim hasn't replied back, humm, :D

Because women are cold hearted *****es when you get down to it. No problems pulling that trigger.

[jetdoc]

GRUNTS DO IT DEEPER~ALL THE WAY UP TOO THE 'STACHE :p :banana:

You mean your chicks have "mustaches"? YIKES!!!!! Ahahahahhaha, those are the ones us Wingers leave for you grunts, :D.

[Marine84]

You mean your chicks have "mustaches"? YIKES!!!!! Ahahahahhaha, those are the ones us Wingers leave for you grunts, :D.

:scared: DOH!