Serial numbers?

[silverdollar]

I have been out of the Corp for a few years now but I heard something that I never heard of and it is hard to believe. Someone told me that the Marine Corp went from using serial numbers to using SS#s, Is this true, if it is, who is the moron responsible for that.

[davblay]

I have been out of the Corp for a few years now but I heard something that I never heard of and it is hard to believe. Someone told me that the Marine Corp went from using serial numbers to using SS#s, Is this true, if it is, who is the moron responsible for that.

I rekon they've been doing that since the mid 70s Sgt! I think it was DODs idea!

Dave

[bigdog43701]

right...jan '02 went to ssn...everyonw still remember thier service #?

[vmfn513]

Doesn't that lead to ID theft? My ssn is not available to anyone. I hope! Had one brush with stealing my Credit Card No. lucky I caught it early on the
1st use. I try to be very careful with my SSN....too much at stake with that
number. The DOD must have had their collective heads up their own Azzs.

[Zulu 36]

Doesn't that lead to ID theft? My ssn is not available to anyone. I hope! Had one brush with stealing my Credit Card No. lucky I caught it early on the
1st use. I try to be very careful with my SSN....too much at stake with that
number. The DOD must have had their collective heads up their own Azzs.

I heard rumors that DoD is re-thinking issuing serial numbers again just because of the ID theft problem.

And I still remember mine, but not telling. :D

[hrscowboy]

Gentlemen in 1971 while stationed at eltoro after returning from Nam they changed our service numbers to our SS because we all had to get new ID cards. I mean everyone got new ID cards

[usmchauer]

As I recall, if your name was on some type of roster that had the potential to be seen by a large number of fellow Marines they only used the last 4 of your social. Orders always had your full social though, another reason not to lose them!

[Native Warrior]

The latest I've heard on this issue is that DOD will be taking the SSN off ID cards and replacing it with a service number. Their ssn will still be used to record and/or track a Marine's service.

[ggyoung]

If anybody thinks that there SSN# is safe they had better think again. With all of the computers in the world and all the hacking going on everyday your SSN# is always out there in the cyber world.

[hrscowboy]

I have just been informed the reason for what was done because some of you southern boys could not remember the serial numbers so they changed it to our SS the worst i guess was the boys from Tenn...

[davblay]

I have just been informed the reason for what was done because some of you southern boys could not remember the serial numbers so they changed it to our SS the worst i guess was the boys from Tenn...

Actually the DOD finally realized that those GOAT ROPERS in Kansas have trouble walking across the road and chewing buble gum at the same time, so they made it easier for them to remember the SSN.

FNG, thinks he knows it all......

[Old Marine]

My service # started with 14 and I retired in 1973. We used to be almost able to figurfe when a guy enlisted by his service #, but California boys always got a bigger number because more of them enlisted back then.

[silverdollar]

Fifty four years ago my ser# was 1485912.:marine:

[Ed Palmer]

Mine was 1583xxx Feb 1956

[bucksgted]

Mine was 1597xxx, 20 FEB 56, MCRDSD, Plt.138

[Old Marine]

Mine was 1583xxx Feb 1956

Ed,

How does it feel to be a boot.:D

[bucksgted]

Ed,

How does it feel to be a boot.:D

Weelllll, guess that could apply to "this Ed" also. Seems I'm always the boot.
When I was promoted to Sgt on 6/01/58, I was given hell for being a slick sleeve buck Sergeant also. We had PFCs with more hash marks than I had stripes. :D:D

[Old Marine]

Weelllll, guess that could apply to "this Ed" also. Seems I'm always the boot.
When I was promoted to Sgt on 6/01/58, I was given hell for being a slick sleeve buck Sergeant also. We had PFCs with more hash marks than I had stripes. :D:D

Dont feel pregnant Ed. I was a Buck Sgt. for ten years Sgt E-4 and Sgt E-5. I was also Acting Sgt for some time. I had to request D.I. School so I could make rank. Retired an E-7 which was the highest rank available when I joined, so I feel I achieved my goal. Would have maybe made E-8 and E-9, but had a family problem with my daughter who had leukemia. She had a doctor by the name of Lt. Moorer who's favorite uncle was Thomas Moorer, former CNO and I had orders for NAM that were cancelled because of a call from the Admiral. I was left at MCRD, SD and retired at 20 years.

A Major at HQMC sent a speed letter and wanted me to take a hardship, I suppose so that they would not have to pay the retirement. This fiasco took about a year to get settled.

I had been a D.I. for close to six years and I think they had lost my record. When my daughter got sick I went to my SgtMaj and informed him that I had always done what the Marine Corps wanted, but that my daughter was not expected to live and I was expecting orders. The SgtMaj stated that its not what you did yesterday its what you can do today. Which is BS. He sent a message to HQMC and they issued me orders for NAM. The rest is history.

[sparkie]

Right about it changing in 1971,,,, mine was 2546239. Indoced outta Cleveland, and on to PI.
I am a draft dodger, however, never did sign up. Graduated HS, and shipped out at 17. You think they are looking for me? My DD-214 has a place for a draft#, and draft board location,,,,, it shows,N.A.
Guess what I made my son do on his 18th?

[salt]

Looking for mbrs of Platoon 315 Apr54............RonE. 1459798.........CWO-3, USMC(Ret). MCRD-SDiego.

[foxman]

You Ole farts have sure brought back memories. In April 65 I was coming out of The Navy Annex headed back to Henderson Hall and who do I meet , Gen Wallace M. Green. I saluted said Good Morning Sir and he returned my Salute and said " PFC What is your Serial Number?" Why I did it I'll never know. I said ,"Sir I don't have a Serial Number, Weapons and Vehicles have Serial Numbers, My Service Number is 2177527. He said Carry on and I did. When I got back to Henderson Hall The Top called me on the intercom and I reported to his Office. He asked me if I had seen The Commondant and I said yes sir I did. He asked me if I told him I didn't have a Serial Number, that Vehicles and weapons had serial numbers. I told him yes sir that's what I said. The Top reached in to his desk drawer and threw Lance Chevrons at me and said, " Well you little smart ass , you must have impressed him. Get these sown on before dark. Won't ever forget that.

[bucksgted]

Ya know, this thread strikes me as kinda funny! I can just see some of the younger folks in here rolling their eyes when they hear us old farts talk about crap that went on in our day. Having said that, I would hope some of them would pay attention to some of the history being recorded here. For the most part rank was a son of a ***** to attain. I wasn't kidding when I said we had PFCs with more hash marks than I had stripes. I know now that I just got lucky and had the right MOS, in the right location and at the right time. My shop Gunny (Tech Sgt) was an old Ordy and was not ashamed to admit that he didn't know crap about electronics or radar. He was very vocal to our CO about his short comings and was quick to say to the CO that I knew my sh*t and was teaching the rest of the shop. Aaaah, Opa Locka! The best liberty town going. Sooo close to Miami Beach and all those women just couldn't wait to spend their money on young Marines!!

[CplKJSpevak]

Well, I'm young (compared to you guy's anyway):) and I love hearing the old stories. absolutely love it. As far as rank is concerned, my friend (who by the way,I met because he was the SNCOIC of my recruiting station when I was 18) retired a Master Gunny, He also sponsored my MCL membership for the det. (that he founded), We were having the conversation about promotions over some beers at last meeting. He said it was all about timing, He joined in '76 when alot of people were getting out after NAM. He was Sgt. in 26 months....keep the stories coming...respectfully, Kevin

[kentmitchell]

I feel like a boot .. . . 1640XXX, Oct. 56, Parris Island, Platoon 377

[semperfiman]

2702372==== 1970 changed to ssn in 1971 or 72 a little fuzzy now

[Sheila Hays]

The Women Marines had a serial# with a W in front of it. Semper Fi LadyM59 Sheila Hays

[CHOPPER7199]

Yep, Old Days, 4 Hash Marks, 1 Up. Ha Ha, Hmm, Me 1 Up, Remember The Days. Lmfao. That Old Gunny Was A Man. Chesty Would Have Loved Him.

[Robert Browell]

Yup,mine was 2241###,I'd be more likely to forget my mother's name,than I would my service number! According to the numbers, I'm a boot too!:yes::banana::yes:

[Sheila Hays]

My serial # started with a W711***. Thats about it. Those dog tags up against the skin always gave me a rash. Semper Fi Sheila Hays:usmc:

[sparkie]

Let me take care of that rash,,,,a lil lotion and TLC,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOL.

[Sheila Hays]

Thanks, but no thanks, the only time I wore them was when I was in Boot camp. Yes, cortisone creme takes care of rashes. Where were you when I came down with the measles? Now that's a story all in itself. Semper Fi Sheila Hays:usmc::yes:

[pnwhite]

Well, my service # was 1957XXX and I was in MCRD SD in February 1961 in Platoon 313. After AIT(?) I came back to San Diego for Aviation Radar Training. As for rank, I spent 2 Years 11 Months and 28 days active duty and finally made E-4, just 2 months before being released from active duty. I was stationed at MCAS Beaufort and when I finally made E-4, my section WO talked to me and showed me that he had put me in for meritorius E-3 and E-4, but my promotions had gone to Marines up at Lejeune. I was really looking forward to E-4 because there was some type of extra pay which would make me "rich" (about $150/month), but they cut it out just before I got my promotion and I actually took a pay cut. So much for incentive! I can't remember now, but I think I ended up making about $120/month as an E-4. This will probably get some responses - as an E-1 in boot camp, we made $78/month. How much do they make today?

[jerry pattison]

Hello All

2510--- Here Nov 5 1968 P.i.

Semper-fi Always

[ggyoung]

2077728

[Sheila Hays]

In reply to how much money we made, as a Pfc. $83.50, as a LCpl I made $99.37, as a Cpl. I made $122.50. We ate alot of taco's, sometimes we had a date and went to dinner. The reason we never got back to the chow hall, because you had to log into your barracks and log out. I thought I was rich, I have no idea what they make money wise now. I was stationed at MCRD San Diego. Semper Fi Sheila Hays:usmc::yes:

[Sheila Hays]

We had to bring $33.00 with us to Boot Camp, and we were paid $78.00 as Pvt. Sheila Hays:usmc::yes:

[vmfn513]

Our SN's were six digits and we were paid $50.00 a day once a month (Pvt). Complain and get your TS slip punched by the Chaplin, among other good things.

[sparkie]

What is the pay scale now???//

[ggyoung]

$50.00 a day? What Marine Corps was that?

[sparkie]

$50.00 a day? What Marine Corps was that?
1 day a month,,,,,,,,,,,Get with the program, Marine.

[Zulu 36]

In reply to how much money we made, as a Pfc. $83.50, as a LCpl I made $99.37, as a Cpl. I made $122.50. We ate alot of taco's, sometimes we had a date and went to dinner. The reason we never got back to the chow hall, because you had to log into your barracks and log out. I thought I was rich, I have no idea what they make money wise now. I was stationed at MCRD San Diego. Semper Fi Sheila Hays:usmc::yes:

I guess I'd better stop grousing about only making $143/mo as a private. :marine:

[sparkie]

In reply to how much money we made, as a Pfc. $83.50, as a LCpl I made $99.37, as a Cpl. I made $122.50. We ate alot of taco's, sometimes we had a date and went to dinner. The reason we never got back to the chow hall, because you had to log into your barracks and log out. I thought I was rich, I have no idea what they make money wise now. I was stationed at MCRD San Diego. Semper Fi Sheila Hays:usmc::yes:
To remember,,,, Wish I could,,,,,,:beer:

[montana]

2516671 ...boot camp plt no 3030...ITR Lima Co....and cant remember the pay

[Sgt Jim]

mine was 261####

[pnwhite]

Montana - Now that you mention it, it was ITR and (believe it or not) I look back on that time as one of the favorite times in my life. I know it was only 30 days, and memories of it are kinda fuzzy, but it was actually fun. When I went into the Corps, I had just about flunked out of college. I was on a deferment, and if you didn't use it (for the whole 3 years), then when you dropped out of college, you could stand by your mailbox and wait for your induction notice. My brother was a career Army officer and I wanted to do him one better, so I joined the Corps. And when I talked to my recruiter, he told me that if I wanted to be a Special Forces soldier (my brother was a Ranger), I had to have an infantry MOS. While in Boot camp, about 2 or 3 weeks before graduation, we had to sign up for any schooling (or special MOS) that we wanted. The DI in charge that day told me that I couldn't get electronics with only a 3 year obligation,,,,BUT, "we promisd you that you could sign up for anything, so go ahead and put electronics as your first chioce. But choose what you really want for your second choice because you'll never get electronics." So (back to Camp Pendleton and ITR) while we were up at Camp San Onofre (?) there was this big U.S.M.C./U.S.N. war games going on. The Navy put a huge group of Marines ashore just north of San Diego and they played mock war games all the way up to Los Angeles, and they came right through our camp. I'll never forget seeing those "grunts" sitting in the back of those 6 X 6's covered from head to foot with a layer of dust. And by the way, I got that electronics schooling afterall. Whew!!!

[pnwhite]

For another memory- Anybody ever see a "drumming out"? I participated in one while I was in Electronics at MCRD. It's something you'll never forget. General Krulak was the base commander while I was there. During an inspection once, he complimented me on my appearance. This was right after we changed from brown shoes and visors to black, and I think I was the only Marine out there that day that he was taller than! (so he could see my visor)

[Misfire]

Mine was 1369696 March 53 Semper Fi

[Misfire]

Plt 95 5th bn MCRD SC, Semper Fi

[Robert Browell]

That's CRS Bro', I've got it too!!!! I do remember me and a buddy figuring out how much we were makin'an hour! As PFC's it worked out to about 13 cents an hour!:yes:The reason for such a "high" wage,was overseas duty pay and hazardous duty pay! This is based on a 24 hr.work day, 'cause we just couldn't get the gooks to agree to a 40 hr.work week:banana:LMFAOTo remember,,,, Wish I could,,,,,,:beer:

[jinelson]

2424xxx Nov 1967 no problem remembering it, its tatoo'd on my right arm. hrscowboy told me I would never forget it that way.

Jim

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[Old Marine]

$50.00 a day? What Marine Corps was that?

Back then, $50.00 went a hell of a lot farther than it will today.

[skipper72]

Mine was 138XXXX and, later, O73XXX.

[SgtThrasher]

215xxxx September 1965.Never will forget it.I wonder if the Geneva
Convention rules was changed to name,rank and SS number.I liked the service number system better and you could tell who had seniority.

[ggyoung]

pnwhite on the drumming out it seems like they used a certin color of shirt or jacket for each of the bad discharge. Is this rite or not?

[pnwhite]

Well I only saw one, and although it didn't take long, we were at attention the whole time. We were formed up on the parade ground, centered on the main gate. I heard although I don't know if it was true or not, that everyone on base was in that formation. The Marine being drummed out was brought out in front of us and the charges were read. After that, (this guy was in uniform - I don't remember him being in just a T-shirt) every insignia that showed that he was a Marine was either pulled off or cut off his uniform. We were then "about faced" and the guy was escorted off the base with an MP on either side of him and a drummer in back of him drumming the whole way out to the front gate. There wasn't anything said other than the charges (in other words, no sermon or "you'd better not do what HE did" or anthing like that - the whole affair was very business like)and when he was off base, we were about faced again and dismissed. I came away with the feeling that if I were to be punished, I'd rather be taken out behind the barn and horse whipped. I don't know who the guy was, but he had to feel absolutely humiliated.

[Mikewebe]

I heard Steve McQeen was drummed out of Pendleton. Not sure no proof just a rumor I heard, and as far as serial numbers someone posted 02 as going to SSN's, it was mine in 89.

[Zulu 36]

Well I only saw one, and although it didn't take long, we were at attention the whole time. We were formed up on the parade ground, centered on the main gate. I heard although I don't know if it was true or not, that everyone on base was in that formation. The Marine being drummed out was brought out in front of us and the charges were read. After that, (this guy was in uniform - I don't remember him being in just a T-shirt) every insignia that showed that he was a Marine was either pulled off or cut off his uniform. We were then "about faced" and the guy was escorted off the base with an MP on either side of him and a drummer in back of him drumming the whole way out to the front gate. There wasn't anything said other than the charges (in other words, no sermon or "you'd better not do what HE did" or anthing like that - the whole affair was very business like)and when he was off base, we were about faced again and dismissed. I came away with the feeling that if I were to be punished, I'd rather be taken out behind the barn and horse whipped. I don't know who the guy was, but he had to feel absolutely humiliated.

Some old-timers I served with at Lejuene said the last guy drummed out at Lejuene was arrested by the Onslow County Sheriff the moment he stepped foot off base property - for Vagrancy. But, that had taken place many years before (I was at Lejuene 73-74).

Gee, I wonder how Johnny Law knew to be there?

[pnwhite]

About Steve McQueen - that brings up a sore point with me. Back in the 50s and 60s, when I was in uniform, it was a very HUGE disgrace to be discharged from the military (not just the Marine Corps, but any of the branches) with anything less than an honorable discharge. I have heard that being discharged with a medical discharge had it's consequencies also. But if you were discharged with a dishonorable discharge, you might just as well move to another country, because that was going to follow you throughout your life. That's not to say that there weren't some people who couldn't prosper with less than an exemplary military career, but back then I know of people who couldn't get a decent job if they were "kicked" out of the military. And now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I've heard that there are fellows who "can't adjust" and are just let go. I don't know what their DD214 says, but it seems as though they suffer no consequencies. Some of you younger guys are probably thinking "So what?" But it's a little different for someone who was "drafted" into the military than for someone who just signs up, and then later "can't adjust" and decides that this isn't for him, so he just gets out and goes on with his life. As for Steve - I think that "tough guy" image was probably due to his acting ability, and not his character.

[Robert Browell]

When I joined we werent all "Volunteers", but even the few draftee's that I knew,considered a less than Honorable discharge,as the worst possible thing that could happen! But the ones that I knew personally,did their duty just as honorably as any enlistee!:thumbup:

[Sheila Hays]

I never saw anyone drummed out of the Corps. I've been on Parris Island and MCRD San Diego, I've visited Twenty-Nine Palms, El Toro, and Camp Pendleton. My nephew was a GSgt. stationed at Camp Pendleton, since he was in the Corps for twenty years, I'll have to ask him about it. That Marine must have done something really bad that they would drum him out of the Corps. Semper Fi Sheila Hays

[pnwhite]

Bob, in my haste to "unload", I didn't mean to question the dedication of either the draftees or volunteers. (I was a volunteer that was going to get drafted! So rather than be a doggy if I got drafted, I chose to be a Marine and volunteered) What I really should have emphasized, was the deplorable waste of lives that were scarred by being discharged from the service without an honorable discharge. I'm sure that you took the same Oath of Allegiance in the 70s that I took in the 60s and that many took in the 40s. And if those words were as valid then as they are now, then I think it is a sad state of affairs that some of the people I knew back in the 50s were destroyed because they simply couldn't "fit in". And I guess that what I mean is that if they couldn't "fit in" back then, then why do the ones nowadays that can't "fit in" get off Scot-free (more or less). And mind you, I don't know anyone personally that is in this category. I just hear about it on the radio (and not that often - it's not like this happens every day!) and I could be all wet. I haven't applied for a job lately, but I know for a fact that back in the 60s when you went to apply for a job you were asked those kind of questions - "What is your draft status", "Were you honorably discharged from the service?" and etc. If you couldn't answer that you were honorably discharged, then "We have no work for you!" Now that I do know happened.

[Robert Browell]

Brother,I took the oath 1/31/66! There is a process to upgrade a bad discharge if it is unjust! I remember a potential employer who told me "that because I was an honorably discharged Vietnam combat vet,he couldn't hire me!" Told me the war was too contreversial,and he didn't think I would fit in! How do you like them apples?I still stand by that oathe,and will 'til the one I made it too,relieves me!!Semper Fi ! :flag:

[Sheila Hays]

I took the oath on Sept.11, 1959, I received an Honorable Discharge on Nov.9,1962. When I applied for a job, I always had my DD214 with me. I could get two jobs in the same day. The best one was the phone Co., I think it was because of my MOS4011. I believe we only had advisers over in Vietnam. I'm a cold war veteran, I think. Semper Fi Sheila Hays LadyM59

[pnwhite]

First off - Bob, if you were here now I would give you a big hug. And I would say very sincerely "Thank you." The war was very controversial - and guess what - it still is. I grew up believing in the domino theory, and for those who make fun of "our" (my generation) for believing that way, they don't know their history. I was against the war - I won't deny it. I had two brothers who served in it. My older brother pulled two tours over there, but he was an officer in the Army. Flew L-19 spotter planes the first tour and was a helicopter pilot the second tour, but ended up being the Company XO. Never got in a helicopter while he was there. My younger brother was stationed in Japan at the time in the Air Force and flew in and out of Nam almost daily until being assigned to operate a teletype machine in Japan. (what a switch!) I was lucky to have sweated it out during the Cuban Missile Crisis, but being stationed at MCAS Beaufort, we really wanted to go (to Cuba). Looking back, how dumb can a group of guys get??? Anyway, this bullsh_t floating around now that if you don't support the war, your against the guys over there fighting. Once again I say bullsh_t. I am against all war that doesn't have any meaning and if it has meaning, I think we should fight it and not namby-pamby around the question. We should have sent everything we had into Afghanistan and kicked some ass and then got out. The reason I say you can be against the war and not be against the guys fighting it is that you and I had no say (have no say) when it comes to strategies, manpower needs, logistics and etc. We are just told to go and fight and that's that. It is the Bushes and Odiornos and whatever his name is that was just promoted, that call the shots and it appears that they aren't doing a very good job of calling. The same thing went for Viet Nam, Korea, Somalia, Beirut, and on and on. Those generals and Commanders in Chief have lost sight of what it is they took an oath of office for. Sometimes I even wonder if they took an Oath. As for Poor George, I think he's doing a pretty good job,,,,,,for someone with an IQ of 90.

[Robert Browell]

I couldn't agree more, Brother,and I always accept hugs from my "Brothers and Sisters" Semper Fi Marine :flag:First off - Bob, if you were here now I would give you a big hug. And I would say very sincerely "Thank you." The war was very controversial - and guess what - it still is. I grew up believing in the domino theory, and for those who make fun of "our" (my generation) for believing that way, they don't know their history. I was against the war - I won't deny it. I had two brothers who served in it. My older brother pulled two tours over there, but he was an officer in the Army. Flew L-19 spotter planes the first tour and was a helicopter pilot the second tour, but ended up being the Company XO. Never got in a helicopter while he was there. My younger brother was stationed in Japan at the time in the Air Force and flew in and out of Nam almost daily until being assigned to operate a teletype machine in Japan. (what a switch!) I was lucky to have sweated it out during the Cuban Missile Crisis, but being stationed at MCAS Beaufort, we really wanted to go (to Cuba). Looking back, how dumb can a group of guys get??? Anyway, this bullsh_t floating around now that if you don't support the war, your against the guys over there fighting. Once again I say bullsh_t. I am against all war that doesn't have any meaning and if it has meaning, I think we should fight it and not namby-pamby around the question. We should have sent everything we had into Afghanistan and kicked some ass and then got out. The reason I say you can be against the war and not be against the guys fighting it is that you and I had no say (have no say) when it comes to strategies, manpower needs, logistics and etc. We are just told to go and fight and that's that. It is the Bushes and Odiornos and whatever his name is that was just promoted, that call the shots and it appears that they aren't doing a very good job of calling. The same thing went for Viet Nam, Korea, Somalia, Beirut, and on and on. Those generals and Commanders in Chief have lost sight of what it is they took an oath of office for. Sometimes I even wonder if they took an Oath. As for Poor George, I think he's doing a pretty good job,,,,,,for someone with an IQ of 90.

[Sheila Hays]

My family was involved in every war since the Spanish American War, my Grandfather was there. World War 11, my Dad Army, my Uncles were Army and Navy. Vietnam two brothers, the oldest was in the Navy, the youngest in the Air Force. The Iraq scituation, nephews, one in the Army, Air Force, and the best of all one Marine, the Gunny. Now I just cry because my first born grandson will be sent over to Iraq, he joined the Army. He tried to join the Corps, but he was rejected because he had asthma when he was younger. They wouldn't give him a waiver, now he is a tanker. He was twelve and only had one attack. He's at Fort Irwin now, waiting to be deployed. I was the only other Marine in the family. Please pray for all those young men and women, who are over there in Iraq. God Bless. Semper Fi :usmc::flag: Sheila Hays:tank:

[akosmatka]

my number was (is) 2020956

[Sheila Hays]

My number was W711***. Semper Fi Sheila Hays

[rickyracer]

I joined 02-1977

And we used SS numbers.

I think if you have a less than Honorable on your DD214 you can work for a company that has any goverment contracts.

[Sheila Hays]

They (The Marine Corps) issued us service numbers W711***, I'm glad they did. I wouldn't want to have my SS# used. I don't know why they changed to SS#. The W was because we were Women Marines. Semper Fi Sheila Hays:usmc::flag: :angel:

[JimEnglish]

They used SSN's when I was in - 76-80. In fact, they used to encourage everyone to engrave your SSN on personal property, such as stereos. Back then, ID theft was non-existant.

[salt]

Boot...Mine was 14597989Rapid City, South Dakota

[FistFu68]

:usmc: THE "USMC" HAS SERVICE NUMBERS-NOT SERIAL NUMBERS :usmc: :iwo:

[Chamorro]

Jul 1966 - Nov 2008 Ser# 2144322.

[Alpha1Devildog]

Last but not least. . . . #2380178

[BigPhil]

1961---1928---

[ecfree]

:usmc: THE "USMC" HAS SERVICE NUMBERS-NOT SERIAL NUMBERS :usmc: :iwo:

Hey Bro,I was givin a Serial # at PI in '61...

[Chuckiejoh]

2211764, Parris Island, March 1966

[moonspinner]

Mine was 1964288 MCRD 1961

[rayh]

Mine was (and still is forever) 1656371 1957

[03grunt11]

my service # 123456789 I went bootcamp 1987

[LanceCpl]

Mine was 1964288 MCRD 1961
PI or SanDiego? Mine is 1976*** SanDeigo Sept 1961.

[ecfree]

From the land that makes Marines,Nov.'61..1972***...
Plt 288.MCRD Parris Island,S.C.

[USMCmailman]

When I joined the finest military organization in the World, in 1967, I was issued a service number. It was 2371997. When I came back to the World in 1969 from the Big Puddle,it had been changed to my SS#. Some damn civilian thought of that !!!!!!!!!!:mad:

Hey Ed (ecfree), How the hell are you !?

[ecfree]

Hey Charley,hangin in there bro...one day at a time..:beer:

[USMCmailman]

God Bless You !---and pass me a Beer will ya ?:marine::yes:

[mikecain1]

1971 was the year , i had gotten my serial number and then had to go to a ssn shortly after

[silverdollar]

My serial # was 1485912 May of 1954.

[FistFu68]

:usmc: SERIAL OR SERVICE-SERVICE OR SERIAL-DAM IT WAS AN HONOR EARNING THE EAGLE,GLOBE @ ANCHOR!!!YUT YUT DEVIL DOG SEMPER FI OOHRAH :beer: :iwo:

[chollamoon]

In Jan. '55, mine was 1539xxx

[chollamoon]

Jan. '55, mine was 1539xxx. (Great State of Alabama)

[cw2533]

Mine was 181**** in 1958 < great state of louisiana>

[BigPhil]

Mine was 192

[Misfire]

March 53 136++++

[hvmech]

Mine was 2172XXX in '65 and I made PFC out of Boot Camp and made a whopping $101.50 a month................

[cw2533]

When I got out of boot camp I made $79.00 a month. Ser #1817

[ELLIOTT813]

Dec. 21, 1961 *******1946---, PI

[mcrdsddi74]

SILVERDOLLAR, I WAS A UNIT DIARY CLERK IN 1973 AND HAD TO CHANGE ALL MY GUYS SSN'S TO MSN'S. WE DO WHAT WE DO.:evilgrin:

[VettBass]

1809*** 1959

[cball]

147**** may 1954 PI ...

[390 Mach I]

Errrm:
My "Serial Number" was my SSN '86-'90.

385xxxxxx

Now you know where I was born!

[AlwaysWillBe]

22xxxxx Aug. 1966.
Got out Aug. 1970 just as they started to issue SSN's

Anyone remember betting $$ on eagle squirt day according to the serial number on your pay chck?? As in a poker hand??

[silverdollar]

22xxxxx Aug. 1966.
Got out Aug. 1970 just as they started to issue SSN's

Anyone remember betting $$ on eagle squirt day according to the serial number on your pay chck?? As in a poker hand??



We did not get a check, we were paid in cash.:marine:

[Zulu 36]

22xxxxx Aug. 1966.
Got out Aug. 1970 just as they started to issue SSN's

Anyone remember betting $$ on eagle squirt day according to the serial number on your pay chck?? As in a poker hand??

Did it almost every payday (when not paid in cash or MPC).

[AlwaysWillBe]

We did not get a check, we were paid in cash.:marine:

I was State side from 1/69 till I got out 8/70. Always got a check then. Don't think they had "direct deposit" back then :D
Can still remember waiting in line on pay day for MPC in Danang.
:iwo:

[Sheila Hays]

My Serial number was W711***, we were paid in cash. Sempers, Sheila Hays.:usmc::flag:

[Sheila Hays]

I have given my serial # so many times. In 1959 it was W711***. Semper Fi, Sheila Hays

[johnry]

was in the wing at eltoro in 71. all our records and id had both

[Skosh59]

186xxxx 1959

[SSgt Ramsey]

I can't remember where I seen it, but I want to say there is a fairly recent Maradmin directing RAPIDS to stop using SSN's as identification and placing them on ID cards in the future.

I never liked that our information was pretty much available to anybody and that all of our administrative and legal documents were tied to our SSN's.

I think also that I read, maybe I misunderstood, but there's a Federal Law that says that a persons SSN can't be used as a identification means...it's only to be used for pay and taxation purposes etc.

[gys]

142XXXX Alabama, PI 1953

[marinecorpsmike]

215xxxx April 1965

[NoRemorse]

...I think also that I read, maybe I misunderstood, but there's a Federal Law that says that a persons SSN can't be used as a identification means...it's only to be used for pay and taxation purposes etc...

I don't have a supporting link but I believe that's the case also, SSgt. We've got a lot of different entities moving away from using SSN for identification.

Union backed benefit plans for health care are still lagging behind, and a lot of state backed benefits like Medicare/Medicaid HMO's require a social.

The ID number for a Medicare patient is still a Social Security number with an alpha prefix or suffix.

[Skosh59]

I can't remember where I seen it, but I want to say there is a fairly recent Maradmin directing RAPIDS to stop using SSN's as identification and placing them on ID cards in the future.

I never liked that our information was pretty much available to anybody and that all of our administrative and legal documents were tied to our SSN's.

I think also that I read, maybe I misunderstood, but there's a Federal Law that says that a persons SSN can't be used as a identification means...it's only to be used for pay and taxation purposes etc.

Here is a link (http://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs10-ssn.htm#10)that I found relating to the use of SS numbers, it may be of some help.

[SSgt Ramsey]

I'm sure I ****ed off my local courthouse when I submitted my concealed weapons permit form sans SSN and also blacked out my SSN in my DD214 I provided them :D

If it comes back disapproved, I'm going to go see Mr Lawyer about discrimination and wrongful denial because I didnt' use my SSN.

I'm not a felon, I'm a retired member of the US Armed Forces, and I have no outstanding warrants...

[Skosh59]

I live in Fl. & have submitted forms for background checks using my drivers lic. num and blanking out the ss field. They came back approved. I haven't tried a concealed weapons permit but did purchase a shotgun w/o ss#.

[skipper72]

Mine were 138XXXX
and 073XXX

[Zulu 36]

I'm sure I ****ed off my local courthouse when I submitted my concealed weapons permit form sans SSN and also blacked out my SSN in my DD214 I provided them :D

If it comes back disapproved, I'm going to go see Mr Lawyer about discrimination and wrongful denial because I didnt' use my SSN.

I'm not a felon, I'm a retired member of the US Armed Forces, and I have no outstanding warrants...

They don't need an SSN to check for outstanding warrants. All that is needed is your full name, race/gender, DOB. The SSN is helpful to rule you in or out if warrants come back on someone with the same name (a fairly frequent event actually).

But that is where fingerprints are the most determanative (if the guy with warrants has prints on file). With fingerprint files so heavily digitized these days, it is quite easy to rule people in or out as wanted or as convicted felons. Not foolproof, but much easier than it used to be (which was also not foolproof).

[Sheila Hays]

Here's my serial # W711***, not my social security #. I'm glad they didn't have us use it. Semper Fi Sheila Hays:flag::angel:

[Wheels123]

I noticed the question about current pay was not answered yet. But these days a Pvt is making $1399.50 a month.

You can also see the current pay chart at this link:

http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/militarypaytables/2009MilitaryPayTables.pdf

[salt]

:flag::flag:I have been out of the Corp for a few years now but I heard something that I never heard of and it is hard to believe. Someone told me that the Marine Corp went from using serial numbers to using SS#s, Is this true, if it is, who is the moron responsible for that.

[salt]

Skipper: I became a temp in 1966 and you? Subsequently became LDO (01) and retired 1974. Enlisted Ser#145 Off: 066

[sparkie]

:flag::flag:


Happened in 1972, I think.

Mine was 2546438,,,,,,,,, Also my password to this site.
So if any of you brothers wanna fuk with me,,,go for it. But I trust my Brothers. :beer:

[salt]

Skipper: My Enl was 145 and O 066 I was a Temp (1966) and subsequently selected for LDO) and retired 1974. What path did yopu take?

[kfisbusy]

:evilgrin::banana::yes:I joined in 72 and my ss# was my sevice number until I got out in 79 ssgt.Francisco.

[BigAlHolmes165]

Skipper: My Enl was 145 and O 066 I was a Temp (1966) and subsequently selected for LDO) and retired 1974. What path did yopu take?

Skipper72 doesn't play here anymore.

He took his ball and went home.

[Sheila Hays]

My serial number was W711***. Semper Fi Sheila Hays

[Rooger]

I can't remember where I seen it, but I want to say there is a fairly recent Maradmin directing RAPIDS to stop using SSN's as identification and placing them on ID cards in the future.Not sure about this, But it does seem plausible.

I never liked that our information was pretty much available to anybody and that all of our administrative and legal documents were tied to our SSN's.I don't either!!!!!!

I think also that I read, maybe I misunderstood, but there's a Federal Law that says that a persons SSN can't be used as a identification means...it's only to be used for pay and taxation purposes etc. This Is true, It's stated CLEARLY in the SS Act itself, and they keep violating it!

Just another example of how our Govt. Keeps making end runs around the constitution!

[Rooger]

I can't remember where I seen it, but I want to say there is a fairly recent Maradmin directing RAPIDS to stop using SSN's as identification and placing them on ID cards in the future.Not sure about this, But it does seem plausible.

I never liked that our information was pretty much available to anybody and that all of our administrative and legal documents were tied to our SSN's.I don't either!!!!!!

I think also that I read, maybe I misunderstood, but there's a Federal Law that says that a persons SSN can't be used as a identification means...it's only to be used for pay and taxation purposes etc. This Is true, It's stated CLEARLY in the SS Act itself, and they keep violating it!

Just another example of how our Govt. Keeps making end runs around the constitution!
http://ssa-custhelp.ssa.gov/cgi-bin/ssa.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=78&p_created=955482891&p_sid=-7xXf3Kj&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX 3Jvd19jbnQ9NjksNjkmcF9wcm9kcz0mcF9jYXRzPSZwX3B2PSZ wX2N2PTEuMTYmcF9wYWdlPTI*&p_li=&p_topview=1

[Rooger]

The Social Security Number is NOT to be Used for Identification

Had to have mine re-issued and thats what it says on the page you detach the SSN card from

[Zulu 36]

Just another example of how our Govt. Keeps making end runs around the constitution!


Hate to break it to ya, but this is not a Constitutional Law issue in the strictest sense.

There is no Constitutional authority to create the Social Security system in the first place, however, it would seem there isn't much Constitutional prohibition to it either.

So, everything to do with Social Security has been created by Congressional Acts. If one law says SSNs can only be used for such-and-such, but another statute says they can also be used as military service numbers, then where is the Constitutional problem?

These social security number use laws were created before computers became as prevalent as they are now and as heavily used for government, personal, and corporate financial information transfer. It just wasn't a foreseeable problem back in 1972 when the military stopped using serial numbers.

But then, a lot of federal laws end up having "unforeseeable" consequences.

[denlog1]

Mine was 2088xxx MCRD Platoon 392 Dec. 1963 to Mar 1964

[MOUNTAINWILLIAM]

1657xxx

[EGA1957]

Mine was 180XXXX in Aug/57 at PI. There were no 17XXXXXs in my Plt. It was either 169s or 180s only. Were 17XXXXs MCRDSD?

[Sheila Hays]

My serial number was W711***, there I put it down for the fourth time. W is for woman. Semper Fi Sheila Hays

[denlog1]

Semper Fi Sheila. What was the time frame of your hitch in the Corps?

[Sheila Hays]

I joined the Marine Corps on Sept.11 1959, graduated from Bootcamp on Oct.23rd 1959. I was Honorably discharged on Nov. 1962. I was stationed at MCRD San Diego, my MOS was 4011 Data Processing. If you need any other information, I'll get my DD214. Semper Fi Sheila Hays:usmc::flag: