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JordanB
05-20-08, 03:39 AM
O.K. I understand that the Corps is the bastard child of the navy and we cant afford m9's for every swinging dick, but seriously WTF with some pog-assed corprals getting pistols and my happy ass getting stuck in the desert with just a SAW?

MarineNCO
05-20-08, 06:08 AM
0311/ LAR scout/ Automatic Rifleman should say enough for you.

I am going to tell you to **** off on the pog-assed Corporal comment. How about a little respect and tact Marine!!

I am a POG-assed Sergeant if you want to look at it that way. I am one of the "POG-assed" Marines that make sure you have your beans bullets and band-aids.

I personally would want a rifle rather than an M9. But that Corporal may have duties that preclude him from carrying a rifle.

sparkie
05-20-08, 08:53 AM
Not all of us got to be a badazz superman like you. :p

Finger
05-20-08, 09:12 AM
Forget the Cpl thing Jordan. You have much better arguments to put forward. If part of your mission is building entries (and I sure it is with this conflict) pistols make good sense to have available.

# 1 searching tight areas within a structure

#2 something to transition to, in case of a malfuction or reload situation in the middle of a close-in fight.

#3 you need to train with both a lot

S/F
Finger

Wyoming
05-20-08, 09:44 AM
What is a corprals?

Sparkie, wuz you ever a corprals?

Maybe I is one!!

Wyoming
05-20-08, 09:53 AM
Side note - The Marine Corps decides what you will carry. Not you!!

A suggestion, stay away from the bad apples. You are starting to sound like one.

Hell, who knows, you may pick up E-3 before you've been in a year. Or maybe you won't, if it your *****ing has been noticed.

timreich
05-20-08, 09:57 AM
Just throwing it out there...most firefights, SAW or m9...yeah I'll take the SAW.

davblay
05-20-08, 10:07 AM
O.K. I understand that the Corps is the bastard child of the navy and we cant afford m9's for every swinging dick, but seriously WTF with some pog-assed corprals getting pistols and my happy ass getting stuck in the desert with just a SAW?

I am gonna over look your statement PFC as you are still new to the Corps. But the Corps decides who gets what weapon, based on experience in Combat affectiveness! There are a lot of Marines that just want to carry a hand gun, while ohers think they are just something else to get in the way during the heat of battle. "Everything for a reason", Marine.

The tactics the Corps uses are tried and proved in many hours/months/even years of combat operations and training. Thy know who rates what weapon, "Ours is not to question why, ours is to do or die", Semper Fi Marine, and thanks for your service.


Dave

jrhd97
05-20-08, 10:13 AM
While my Brother - in -law was there evey one had to be armed every where they went, with either a M16, 4 or side arm. His job made carrying a rifle evrywhere, including his work area very difficult so he opted for the side arm.
He is Army and worked with Marines on that base. It was a standing order from higher ups for all service men,woman.

outlaw3179
05-20-08, 11:08 AM
Just throwing it out there...most firefights, SAW or m9...yeah I'll take the SAW.


lol..no ****

thewookie
05-20-08, 12:21 PM
O.K. I understand that the Corps is the bastard child of the navy and we cant afford m9's for every swinging dick, but seriously WTF with some pog-assed corprals getting pistols and my happy ass getting stuck in the desert with just a SAW?

If you're routinely clearing rooms and small spaces then I could see why YOU might want the pistol over the SAW. But if you're really whining or asking for both, then that's a different story and it's all about the money. Get used to it. I think you're just mad cause you ain't looking cool like the rest of them with the high screed low drag holsters on their hip. And you have to hump the SAW, and the ammo.

In choosing weapons for and uncertain fight (and you don't have a choice right now) I personally would stick with the the one that gives me the most flexibility, and firepower. The M-9's have a few good purposes but usually it's your back-up and not your primary, unless you have a job in the rear. Take the SAW over the M-9 any day and twice on Tuesday's. You sure can clear rooms with a SAW, but, you better know what or who else is in the area with you.

Keep your azz low, and shoot straight.

CplKJSpevak
05-20-08, 01:05 PM
A big difference between Marines and other branches is we are professional and respect rank (especially NCO's)

mddruss
05-20-08, 01:07 PM
Yeah, having a M9 might make you look "high speed" but you have to ask your self how practical is it?

When I was deployed we did a lot of building clearing. I had an M9 and my trusty ol' M16 (my unit didn't have the M4's till after I left). It was nice to have the M9 as back up but I hardly ever pulled it, unless I was going into a very small area that was difficult to maneuver with the M16.

FistFu68
05-20-08, 01:07 PM
:evilgrin: FUC THAT M-9-9MM.GET YOURSELF A EMPTY DEMO.BAG GET A'BOUT 25 40MM.FRAG'S,START YOU'R ROOM TIGHT PLACE CLEARING OUT WITH THE GERNADE.YOU CARRY A GASMASK STRAPED ON YOU'R YOUNG AZZ?IF NOT DO SO FROM NOW ON GRUNT.GODSPEED MARINE,THANX FOR FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM;WHEN IN DOUBT FRAGG 'EM :beer: :iwo:

egbutler1
05-20-08, 01:59 PM
Yeah uh forget that m-9 i carried that thing for 4 years with a rifle and or saw. Personally i would enjoy that saw you have cause i have seen in iraq 9mm bullets bounce off windshields.

thewookie
05-20-08, 02:50 PM
:evilgrin: FUC THAT M-9-9MM.GET YOURSELF A EMPTY DEMO.BAG GET A'BOUT 25 40MM.FRAG'S,START YOU'R ROOM TIGHT PLACE CLEARING OUT WITH THE GERNADE.YOU CARRY A GASMASK STRAPED ON YOU'R YOUNG AZZ?IF NOT DO SO FROM NOW ON GRUNT.GODSPEED MARINE,THANX FOR FIGHTING FOR FREEDOM;WHEN IN DOUBT FRAGG 'EM :beer: :iwo:

Always love to hear Jack's two cents on things, fock em, frag em if you get close :~O

Big Jim
05-20-08, 03:35 PM
O.K. I understand that the Corps is the bastard child of the navy and we cant afford m9's for every swinging dick, but seriously WTF with some pog-assed corprals getting pistols and my happy ass getting stuck in the desert with just a SAW?


A sidearm, or M9, is considered to be a SNCO or an Officer's weapon of rank and duty. As an Armorer, in every rank, I carried one while on duty which is duty specific. You just wanting one as PFC. is just mule-fritters!! My Grandma wants one, my oldest daughter wants one...DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET ONE?!?! HELL NO!!

As far as your slanderous statements...boy...I suggest you learn some frikkin respect before your lack of respect gets you into more serious trouble than just cussed out. When, or IF, you become a Corporal, (oh yeah, learn how to frikkin spell too, how can anyone respect anyone else who can't even spell correctly?!), would you want some phony brave, wet behind the ears, baby fuzz balls, little no rank PFC. calling YOU pogue-azzed Corporal?!?! Respect starts with YOU boy!!! You either give it or your nuts will be in the vise!!!

JordanB
05-21-08, 02:49 AM
My point is that between a guy who carrys an open bolt weapon in the desert and someone who really dosent have much need for a pistol the needs of the guy with the open bolt weapon should take priority.

MarineNCO
05-21-08, 06:21 AM
My point is that between a guy who carrys an open bolt weapon in the desert and someone who really dosent have much need for a pistol the needs of the guy with the open bolt weapon should take priority.

Perhaps you should have stated that in your original post.

Big Jim
05-21-08, 11:15 PM
My point is that between a guy who carrys an open bolt weapon in the desert and someone who really dosent have much need for a pistol the needs of the guy with the open bolt weapon should take priority.

Why...because of your years of time in the Corps and it's telling you this needs to be changed? You have the most firepower in the fireteam, numbnuts!! Why else would you want an M9 pistol that will only get in the way when you're using the SAW?!?! Afterall...the pistol would be so ineffective against almost everybody!! Think, man...think!!! You're the guy who gives the priority...not the guy who takes priority!!! Do you even understand that? Stick with your fireteam and quit yer b!tchin...you'll get to qualify with a pistol someday.

RLeon
05-22-08, 02:06 AM
Heck why an M9? Go all out, ask for a Kimber Warrior, more stopping power and you get to put a cool light at the muzzle end.
:p

Preacher
05-22-08, 01:17 PM
a .45 and call it good. :beer:

SF, Preacher

Twitchell
05-22-08, 06:48 PM
Every Marine a RIFLEMAN. Not a PISTOLMAN.