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thedrifter
04-19-08, 07:41 AM
Does Time's Cover On Global Warming Go Too Far?
Friday, April 18th, 2008

Time Magazine (who's partnered with CNN) has just released their April 28th issue, and the cover of the magazine is a Photoshopped version of the United States Marines and U.S. Navy corpsman who raised the United States flag on Mount Suribachi - the iconic photo by Joe Rosenthal that has it's own place in history from the Battle of Iwo Jima during World War II. With one huge difference: in Time's version, the Marines are raising a tree, and the issue is dedicated to global warming.

The story calls green "the new red, white and blue," and has some Veterans upset over the swap from a symbol of a World War to the "war" on Global Warming.

Time's Managing Editor, Richard Stengel, told MSNBC yesterday that "There needs to be an effort along the lines of preparing for World War II to combat global warming and climate change."

Did Time's cover go too far?

http://www.connietalk.com/times_global_warming_041808.html

Ellie

thedrifter
04-19-08, 07:49 AM
Time Magazine's Special Environmental Issue Cover Angers WWII Vets

April 18, 2008 4:32 p.m. EST


Julie Farby - AHN Reporter

New York, NY (AHN)-In a special edition designed to raise awareness of pressing environmental issues, Time Magazine has abandoned its traditional red border for only the second time in 85 years, replacing it instead with a symbolic green one.

On the cover of its April 21 issue, Time Magazine decided to push the message of global warming to its audiences, stirring up some controversy in it quest to raise awareness. Some World War II veterans are taking offense at the flagship magazine's decision to replace the famous Iwo Jima photograph of Marines raising an American flag with the Marines raising a tree instead, saying it is wrong to compare the fight against global warming to the fight of World War II. One Iwo Jima veteran, Donald Mates, whose 3rd Marine Division fought in the historic battle, expressed outrage at the magazine's decision to tweak the iconic military photo for its latest cover. Speaking to the Business & Media Institute, Mates called the cover "an absolute disgrace, and mortal sin." "God forbid he runs into a Marine that was an Iwo Jima survivor." Mates added. Despite the uproar caused by the controversial cover, Time managing editor Richard Stengel said he stands by his magazine's decision to run the special global warming edition. "One of the things we do in the story is we say there needs to be an effort along the lines of preparing for World War II to combat global warming and climate change," Stengel said.

Ellie

thedrifter
04-19-08, 07:51 AM
Iwo Jima Veterans Blast Time's 'Special Environmental Issue' Cover
Time editor tells MSNBC 'there needs to be a real effort along the lines of World War II to combat global warming and climate change.'

By Jeff Poor
Business & Media Institute
4/18/2008 9:40:43 AM


For only the second time in 85 years, Time magazine abandoned the traditional red border it uses on its cover. The occasion – to push more global warming alarmism.



The cover of the April 21 issue of Time took the famous Iwo Jima photograph by Joe Rosenthal of the Marines raising the American flag and replaced the flag with a tree. The cover story by Bryan Walsh calls green “the new red, white and blue.”



Donald Mates, an Iwo Jima veteran, told the Business & Media Institute on April 17 that using that photograph for that cause was a “disgrace.”



“It’s an absolute disgrace,” Mates said. “Whoever did it is going to hell. That’s a mortal sin. God forbid he runs into a Marine that was an Iwo Jima survivor.”



Mates also said making the comparison of World War II to global warming was erroneous and disrespectful.



“The second world war we knew was there,” Mates said. “There’s a big discussion. Some say there is global warming, some say there isn’t. And to stick a tree in place of a flag on the Iwo Jima picture is just sacrilegious.”



According to the American Veterans Center (AVC), Mates served in the 3rd Marine Division and fought in the battle of Iwo Jima, landing on Feb. 24, 1945.



“A few days later, Mates’ eight-man patrol came under heavy assault from Japanese forces,” Tim Holbert, a spokesman for the AVC, said. “During fierce-hand-to-hand combat, Mates watched as his friend and fellow Marine, Jimmy Trimble, was killed in front of his eyes. Mates was severely wounded, and underwent repeated operations for shrapnel removal for over 30 years.”



Lt. John Keith Wells, the leader of the platoon that raised the flags on Mt. Suribachi and co-author of “Give Me Fifty Marines Not Afraid to Die: Iwo Jima” wasn’t impressed with Time’s efforts.



“That global warming is the biggest joke I’ve ever known,” Wells told the Business & Media Institute. “[W]e’ll stick a dadgum tree up somebody’s rear if they want that and think that’s going to cure something.”



Time managing editor Richard Stengel appeared on MSNBC April 17 and said the United States needed to make a major effort to fight climate change, and that the cover’s purpose was to liken global warming to World War II.




“[O]ne of the things we do in the story is we say there needs to be an effort along the lines of preparing for World War II to combat global warming and climate change,” Stengel said. “It seems to me that this is an issue that is very popular with the voters, makes a lot of sense to them and a candidate who can actually bundle it up in some grand way and say, ‘Look, we need a national and international Manhattan Project to solve this problem and my candidacy involves that.’ I don't understand why they don’t do that.”



Holbert, speaking on behalf of the American Veterans Center, said the editorial decision by Time to use the photograph for the cover trivialized the cause the veterans fought for.



“Global warming may or may not be a significant threat to the United States,” Holbert said. “The Japanese Empire in February of 1945, however, certainly was, and this photo trivializes the most recognizable moment of one of the bloodiest battles in U.S. history. War analogies should be used sparingly by political advocates of all bents.”



Stengel also appeared on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” on April 17 and had no difficulty admitting the magazine needed to have a “point of view.”



“I think since I’ve been back at the magazine, I have felt that one of the things that’s needed in journalism is that you have to have a point of view about things,” Stengel said. “You can’t always just say ‘on the one hand, on the other’ and you decide. People trust us to make decisions. We’re experts in what we do. So I thought, you know what, if we really feel strongly about something let's just say so.”



Time has been banging the global warming drum for some time now. In April 2007, Time offered 51 ways to “save the planet,” which included more taxes and regulation.



Ellie

thedrifter
04-19-08, 08:15 AM
Time magazine cover riles Iwo Jima veterans
Stars and Stripes
Mideast edition, Saturday, April 19, 2008



Here come the U.S. Marines. And they’re not happy.

Time magazine, on its April 21 cover in most parts of the world, takes the famous Iwo Jima photograph of Marines raising the American flag, and replaces the flag with a tree to discuss battling climate change.

Some veteran Marines are up in arms.

Donald Mates, an Iwo Jima veteran, told the Business & Media Institute on Thursday that using that photograph to make a point about global warming is wrong.

“It’s an absolute disgrace,” Mates is quoted on the BMI Web site as saying. “Whoever did it is going to hell. That’s a mortal sin. God forbid he runs into a Marine that was an Iwo Jima survivor.”

Mates also said making the comparison of World War II to global warming was baseless and disrespectful.

“The second world war we knew was there,” Mates told the BMI reporter. “Some say there is global warming, some say there isn’t. And to stick a tree in place of a flag on the Iwo Jima picture is just sacrilegious.”

Mates served in the 3rd Marine Division and fought in the battle of Iwo Jima, landing on Feb. 24, 1945, according to the report.

The mission of BMI, according to its site, is to audit the media’s coverage of the free enterprise system.

Time Managing Editor Richard Stengel appeared on MSNBC on Thursdday and said the United States needed to make a major effort to fight climate change, and that the cover’s purpose was to liken global warming to World War II.

Lt. John Keith Wells, the leader of the platoon that raised the flags on Mount Suribachi and co-author of “Give Me Fifty Marines Not Afraid to Die: Iwo Jima” wasn’t impressed.

“That global warming is the biggest joke I’ve ever known,” Wells told the Business & Media Institute. “[W]e’ll stick a dadgum tree up somebody’s rear if they want that and think that’s going to cure something.”

Ellie

Kegler300
04-19-08, 01:28 PM
This is more appropriate, in my opinion...

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/137149.jpg

jrhd97
04-19-08, 03:38 PM
:banana: Great one Kegler. Isn't it great soon after scientists at the meteorologist institute have admited the earth is in a cooling stage.

IamSecretSanta
04-20-08, 12:11 AM
I think they should be more respectful to the vets, and at least ask some if it would offend them before they printed the cover. But even if you don't believe in cataclismic, apocolyptic effects from global warming, the truth still stands that we do have negative effects on our environment. Whether the earth melts to hell or not is not the issue. The issue is that even if you don't support global warming evidence, there is plenty of indesputable proof that high gas emmissions are damaging our health. Look at the resperatory problems of cities with higher smog and polution levels compared to other parts of the world or even country. And not to mention the devastating impact we are leaving on nature. But I'm a little off topic.

greensideout
04-20-08, 12:25 AM
I think they should be more respectful to the vets, and at least ask some if it would offend them before they printed the cover. But even if you don't believe in cataclismic, apocolyptic effects from global warming, the truth still stands that we do have negative effects on our environment. Whether the earth melts to hell or not is not the issue. The issue is that even if you don't support global warming evidence, there is plenty of indesputable proof that high gas emmissions are damaging our health. Look at the resperatory problems of cities with higher smog and polution levels compared to other parts of the world or even country. And not to mention the devastating impact we are leaving on nature. But I'm a little off topic.


Global warming is little more then BS. Study the real deal, it's about a new world order, slam dunk, globalism.

thedrifter
04-21-08, 08:39 AM
Monday, April 21, 2008
THE BABE IN THE BUNKER
Time out! Global Gorecaster's
'green' lies infect popular mag
Exclusive: Barbara Simpson rips 'news' monthly
for tarnishing war photo, peddling climate fiction
Posted: April 21, 2008
1:00 am Eastern



By Barbara Simpson


Time magazine jumps on the bandwagon of environmental doomsayers with the April 28 edition.

Gone is the usual red border on the cover. Now, it's green.

The theme of the edition is "How to Win The War On Global Warming."

It doesn't take much imagination to know what's inside. There's nothing new. The arguments are Al Gore redux. Time fell for it hook, line and sinker.

But the magazine stepped into a steaming pile when it chose the cover art for their climate alarmist issue. That cover is raising the ire of Marines, veterans and Americans across the country.

Time used the Pulitzer Prize-winning photograph by Joe Rosenthal of Marines raising the stars and stripes on Mt. Suribachi on Iwo Jima during World War II and – changed it!

They removed the flag and replaced it with a tree.

Bryan Walsh wrote the cover story; he calls green "the new red, white and blue."

It's Al Gore's fault. His Army service involved manning a typewriter, not a machine gun. But war is minor to Al, who has created a whole new career and gotten astonishingly rich by becoming the world's biggest fear-monger.

We may be doomed, but he, Tipper and the kids will go out in style.

According to Gore, and TV commercials from his environmental outfit, one thing takes precedence over everything, including World War II: the environmental "crisis."

According to Uncle Al, if we don't change our ways, we'll all die; everything on the planet will die; the planet will die. All that'll be left will be a steaming pile of – something. Al blames global warming.

But it may be a pile of ice, and it won't be steaming. The truth is, no one knows, least of all Uncle Al, what will happen to the planet as climate evolves through normal cycles.

But Gore has beaten his "theory" – and that's all it is – into the psyche of millions. Schools teach it, churches preach it, politicians enforce it, businesses cash in on it and the news media indoctrinate. Consider what's been on TV to scare the wits out of us.

The fallout of the current Time cover has veterans seeing red, not green. It's hard to say which angers them more – demeaning the flag and the Marines or commercializing the photograph.

Donald Mates is furious that the photograph was changed.

"It's an absolute disgrace," he told the Business and Media Institute. "Whoever did that is going to hell. That's a mortal sin. God forbid he runs into a Marine that was an Iwo Jima survivor."

Mates is one of those. The Institute reports he landed on Iwo Jima in February 1945 with the 3rd Marine Division. Within days, his eight-man patrol came under heavy fire and hand-to-hand combat. His friend was killed in front of him, and Mates was severely wounded, enduring 30 years of operations for shrapnel removal.

Mates said they knew World War II was real, but not so with climate change. "There's a big discussion. Some say there is global warming; some say there isn't. And to stick a tree in place of a flag on the Iwo Jima picture is just sacrilegious."

Time essentially spit on the graves of those who died taking that island from the Japanese. Roughly 60,000 Marines from the 3rd, 4th and 5th Divisions fought for 26 days before that 8-square-mile island was won.

Six thousand Americans were killed.

The real Marines in Rosenthal's famous photograph honored those men and those who survived fighting for that victory.

Adm. Chester W. Nimitz said, "uncommon valor was a common virtue" in that battle.

Time's choice is disgraceful, but apparently anything goes, especially if it's for "a greater good" or – for money.

The cover uproar gives Time free advertising and is certain to increase sales, pleasing them and advertisers.

It's all about the bottom line, even though Time managing editor Richard Stengel says the editorial purpose was to give the magazine a "point of view" and address the issue as a crisis, just as war is a crisis.

But most revealing is what Stengel said April 17 on MSNBC.

According to the Institute, he said journalism needs that "point of view."

(Read this carefully.)

He continued:

"You can't always just say 'on the one hand, on the other' and you decide. People trust us to make decisions. We're experts in what we do. So I thought, you know what, if we really feel strongly about something, let's just say so."

That's it! Real journalism is dead. No more balancing issues or presenting both (or more) sides. In fact, readers/viewers can't be left to think/decide for themselves.

According to Stengel, he and "they" know better and will tell us what to believe.

Do we really trust them to make decisions? That's a mistake.

He says they're "experts in what they do" but gives himself away saying "if we really feel strongly about something, let's just say so."

Sorry, Richard Stengel. I don't want to know how you feel about something. I want facts. Time is supposed to be a news magazine, not a weekly shrink session.

You're unloading a pile of bull on the public by supporting the similar pile propping up Al Gore and his green empire, and it's all at the expense of the rest of us.

You perpetuate lies that will cost billions, change lives and destroy people and businesses.

On top of that, by desecrating the Iwo Jima photograph, you demean and trivialize the heroism of men who fought a real enemy and who were injured and died to give you the opportunity to shuck and jive the American public, to say nothing of the rest of the world.

You and Time should be ashamed, but you have no shame. That's all too obvious.

Ellie