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[Seyborg]

After some searching...

THIS is a good question.

I've said it before. I have gotten my pull ups to 15. I'm pretty happy about that. I also said I was gonna start hitting the weights.

As of now, I do 10-12 reps, FULL extension of EVERY muscle. I'm a wiry and flexible kid, and I plan to keep it that way. I stretch before and during the work out.

Now, as you can see, my workout is more of a high rep routine. I don't know alot about working out, at least the weight training stuff ( I ran track :D )

The way I'm gatherin' it, you lift heavy for low reps to get big and high reps lower weight to get cut and hit the endurance part of your muscle.

Is there an in between so to speak?

I have a HUGE frame. I'm 6'3" but only 176 pounds (about 8-10 percent fat I'd guess). I have very broad chest and even wider shoulders. Long arms, Long arms all around especially the part above my fore arms. I've been told by coaches and trainers I could be huge, but I don't want that. I want ot be a ble to move, have definition AND be bigger. Not hulk, just bigger.

Someone that knows more than me, shed insight. So much out there I am SO confused.

Thanks again.

[ttracker65]

It is ALL about endurance. When I went through Boot in the 70's one the recruit's was a bod builder and he hated it because the Corps is building a lean mean green fighting machine not the bulk of the hulk. It sounds like you have a solid routine keep up the good work!

[NeedSomePT]

No offence I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself there Seyborg.

There is NO way you're going to wake up some day, look in the mirror, and realize you're like the Hulk.

Find any person on the street with a frame that you would call "looking like the Hulk" and ask them how long they have been working out. I guarantee you it will be 5+ years.
Professional bodybuilders are just that. Professional bodybuilders. It is their job to get huge so taht is all they do all day. They have been doing that all their life and have all kidns of drugs and supplements to help them. Trust me on this, you are NEVER unless you seriously actually focus on it and do it for YEARS going to look anywhere near Arnie or any other pro bodybuilder.

ALso, don't worry about not being able to "move" if you get big. That is just a myth made up by scrawny people as an excuse for why they don't work out. Many bodybuilders are very fit, Arnold went on a run every morning. 8x Mr. Olympia Ronnie Coleman can do a freaking split.
Trust me if you get big to the point where you "can't move" it won't be for a VERY long time and even then, you'll still be able to move.

The only thing you could possibly worry about is if you start putting on mroe muscle (which equals more weight) and you start slacking on your running or other exercises, the added weight could come back and hurt you a bit once you start doing more "Boot camp" type exercises. If you keep it balanced and continue running and doing pull ups and everything while you lift weights, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

[Brandon1]

An in between? hmmm...What I did was high weight and did about 8-10 reps for 3-5 sets, with 30 seconds rest in between. That was my routine of getting muscle and still doing the endurance thing. You seem to be doing fine right now, so I would stick with what your doing. Although I have an almost perfect workout for you. If you want it PM and i'll be glad to give it to you.

NeedsomePT: I dont think he meant look like the hulk, i'm pretty sure he meant he doesnt want to get to big, he just wants to gain muscle and keep his endurance.

[SlingerDun]

Low reps heavy weight and your pull-ups should improve and you me feel like Hulk but you wont gain much mass if you don't feed accordingly.

Somewhere in between: If heavy weight leads to muscle failure on say the 8th rep, decrease the weight and at some point during or before the last rep practice the isometric technique of holding, isolating or squeezing the primary muscles used for the exercise. If done with heart you should tremble and sweat and need to force yourself to breath.

Experiment with pull-ups when you still think you can grind out about two more reps, stop mid way or at the top without resting on your chin, or dead hang until your hands quit.

Many Marines recall holding buckets of concrete or sand and most every Marine has struck a pose with foot the locker until you wanna scream blasphemies. These static techniques following fluid or dynamic reps make you tougher and hard. But because its tough many people won't do it unless forced.

--->Dave

[Seyborg]

thanks for the help all!

Yeah I said I dont want to be the hulk.

I do the same Brandon. I do 10 reps 3 sets. I only do pull ups on back day. I run every day.

Today, I went on a nice 4 or so mile run...

I can move, no doubt, I just want to be looked at..

Damn he big.

I realize that prob wont happen until I bulk after boot. I've got time.

[Ub3rmike]

Trust me. Large people can move. We've got this motivated 16 year old (Sophomore) who went to Devil Pups who the recruiters refer to as Baby Recon. He's made like a body builder, but his run is actually his biggest strength in the IST. He does 10-11 pull ups, but only 50-60 sit ups. However, during the run, I have to dig deep to beat him because he moves fast, 9:40ish times for 1.5 mi.

Heck, even people who look like fat bodies can be capable of faring well physically.

[Brandon1]

No doubt bigger people can move. One of my old football buddies Caleb Schlauderaff is 6'5 300lbs and that guy can run like there is no tomorrow.
http://utahutes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/schlauderaff_caleb00.html
Thats his bio, he plays at Utah now. He's the backup Left Gaurd now I guess. But anyways, him and I worked out together and followed the same workout routine. If you look at his weight room record in his bio, then you will want to follow that workout lol.

[Books]

It seems to me that nothing else matters until after bootcamp. The most important thing is just running, and running some more, and then some. All other sorts of specialization can really be held off until you know what the Corps expects of you later on.

[benw2200]

I have a HUGE frame. I'm 6'3" but only 176 pounds (about 8-10 percent fat I'd guess). I have very broad chest and even wider shoulders. Long arms, Long arms all around especially the part above my fore arms.

I definitely know where you're coming from on that one. We seem to have similar builds: I'm 6'2" and weigh about 180. Long arms, long legs, big range of motion. I've been weightlifting for about 2 years.. I'm definitely nowhere near "huge" but I've been able to put some muscle on what used to be my toothpick arms lol. I'd suggest doing lat pulls (for your back) and curls (for your biceps), both of those will help your pullups. Vary the weight up from day to day. You're correct in saying that high weight/low reps gives you more strength, while lower weight/high reps is better for endurance. Do both.

Good luck man. With 15 pullups now, you should be able to smoke 20 by the end of boot if you work at it. Keep it up!!

[Seyborg]

Do both? How so? Explain a way you could do both, use a Day1-5 Format if you could. I work all muscles. I appreciate the HELP!

[Brandon1]

I think what he means is do high weight low rep one day, then low weight high rep then next, then so on and so fourth. Change it up so your muscles dont get used to the same old thing. Muscle confusion is what it's called.

[Big Jim]

After some searching...

THIS is a good question.

I've said it before. I have gotten my pull ups to 15. I'm pretty happy about that. I also said I was gonna start hitting the weights.

As of now, I do 10-12 reps, FULL extension of EVERY muscle. I'm a wiry and flexible kid, and I plan to keep it that way. I stretch before and during the work out.

Now, as you can see, my workout is more of a high rep routine. I don't know alot about working out, at least the weight training stuff ( I ran track :D )

The way I'm gatherin' it, you lift heavy for low reps to get big and high reps lower weight to get cut and hit the endurance part of your muscle.

Is there an in between so to speak?

I have a HUGE frame. I'm 6'3" but only 176 pounds (about 8-10 percent fat I'd guess). I have very broad chest and even wider shoulders. Long arms, Long arms all around especially the part above my fore arms. I've been told by coaches and trainers I could be huge, but I don't want that. I want ot be a ble to move, have definition AND be bigger. Not hulk, just bigger.

Someone that knows more than me, shed insight. So much out there I am SO confused.

Thanks again.


It does sound like you're confused....you really don't have anything to worry about when considering bulking up at your weight! I'm 6'3 and right now at 42 years I still weigh 265-270 with enough muscle to bench 405 lbs. easily for 3 reps. I weighed 246 on my second enlistment with a weight waiver below 11% bodyfat and kept that weight with weight lifting and endurance training...you CAN have both! The only problem is youtend to lose muscle when you don't keep up the lifting. Don't worry about gaining too much weight when lifting...you need to gain strength in your upper body, and it sounds like you have the frame for it), go and work for that muscle weight. Trust me, it will help you in every way possible.

[SGT7477]

Big Jim I guess I'm still in pretty good shape at 52 I bench 400 at 190 lbs. 5'7". Semper FI.

[Brandon1]

I was so close to my one rep max of 400...Damn it I wish I hadnt stopped lifting. I stopped at my max of 365.