View Full Version : Switching grips during Pull-Up Quezzies...
CadetMSgtScream
02-08-08, 08:04 PM
Mhmm okay, I looked up the official MCO for the PFT and didn't really see what I was looking for, nor have I ever read about this...I could ask my recruiter but its kind of late so I don't really want to call him right now...anyways,
When it comes to pull-up's I'm aware you can go from chin-up to pull-up form as long as you don't drop off the bar...my question is, if you are doing a chin-up can you also go reg-grip to close-grip to wide-grip to switch to pull-up to close-grip, then to reg-grip, then to wide-grip...
Obviously you wouldn't REALLY do ALL of these in one PFT...but I would see doing regular chin-ups then going to a close-grip as quite plausible...
Anyways, is this well, LEGAL? I have a tendancy to just sit around and think about things in abstract/different ways and was simply wondering about this.
Zulu 36
02-08-08, 08:10 PM
Mhmm okay, I looked up the official MCO for the PFT and didn't really see what I was looking for, nor have I ever read about this...I could ask my recruiter but its kind of late so I don't really want to call him right now...anyways,
When it comes to pull-up's I'm aware you can go from chin-up to pull-up form as long as you don't drop off the bar...my question is, if you are doing a chin-up can you also go reg-grip to close-grip to wide-grip to switch to pull-up to close-grip, then to reg-grip, then to wide-grip...
Obviously you wouldn't REALLY do ALL of these in one PFT...but I would see doing regular chin-ups then going to a close-grip as quite plausible...
Anyways, is this well, LEGAL? I have a tendancy to just sit around and think about things in abstract/different ways and was simply wondering about this.
Time to think about other things, kiddo, like doing more pull-ups and/or chin-ups. A usual pull/chin up is with hands about shoulder-width apart. Exact measurements are not taken.
Big Jim
02-08-08, 08:18 PM
Mhmm okay, I looked up the official MCO for the PFT and didn't really see what I was looking for, nor have I ever read about this...I could ask my recruiter but its kind of late so I don't really want to call him right now...anyways,
When it comes to pull-up's I'm aware you can go from chin-up to pull-up form as long as you don't drop off the bar...my question is, if you are doing a chin-up can you also go reg-grip to close-grip to wide-grip to switch to pull-up to close-grip, then to reg-grip, then to wide-grip...
Obviously you wouldn't REALLY do ALL of these in one PFT...but I would see doing regular chin-ups then going to a close-grip as quite plausible...
Anyways, is this well, LEGAL? I have a tendancy to just sit around and think about things in abstract/different ways and was simply wondering about this.
Its always best to finish with the grip you started with. The more pullups you can do...the easier this becomes. But, like Zulu said...its just better to concentrate on being able to DO more pullups before you worry about that. In fact...WHY would you want to switch grips in the middle of doing a PFT for score?! It makes no sense...you'll have to utilize different muscle groups breaking your concentration and rhythm making it more difficult for yourself. Doing the pullup part of the PFT takes very little time also...you'll only be on the bar maybe a minute or less, (if you do all 20). So, there's really no reason to switch grips in the middle of the task...
brian21johansen
02-08-08, 08:36 PM
You can switch the width of your grip as much as you want along with switching your hands from the "pull-up" position to the "chin-up" position.
I see where your coming from.....because it makes sense that once you can't do any more pullups one way, you might as well switch to a different grip or whatever to utilize your other muscle groups. You can try it if you want but I can tell you firsthand that it doesn't work (it may work for you but it didnt work for me or a bunch of other kids at bootcamp who tried it) I think your best of staying with one grip and getting into a rythmn and pounding out as many as you can. When your working out though I suggest doing pull ups AND chinups and change up the width of your hands between sets to work all the different muscle groups in you back, chest and arms.
aust10n
02-08-08, 11:25 PM
From my understanding you can change grips in the middle of your PFT.
A Marine told me that he maxed out "palms facing out" then switched palms facing inward and put out another 4. He also told me that the guy in front of him hung like a monkey by one arm and shaked out his arm and did the same to his other arm and put out several more that way.
From my understanding you can change grips in the middle of your PFT.
A Marine told me that he maxed out "palms facing out" then switched palms facing inward and put out another 4. He also told me that the guy in front of him hung like a monkey by one arm and shaked out his arm and did the same to his other arm and put out several more that way.
That's what the current pull up record holding Marine did. If I ever get stuck at 19 I'd try it. But your best bet is to make sure you (all male poolees) can do over 20 to begin with, then none of this grip switching will mater.
aust10n
02-09-08, 10:55 PM
That's what the current pull up record holding Marine did. If I ever get stuck at 19 I'd try it. But your best bet is to make sure you (all male poolees) can do over 20 to begin with, then none of this grip switching will mater.
The record is at 76, right? The guy was an enlisted 30 year old with 2 degrees? I think I read about him online somewhere.
thewookie
02-10-08, 12:51 AM
From my understanding you can change grips in the middle of your PFT.
A Marine told me that he maxed out "palms facing out" then switched palms facing inward and put out another 4. He also told me that the guy in front of him hung like a monkey by one arm and shaked out his arm and did the same to his other arm and put out several more that way.
If you have to worry about this then you better be going for a record. You can change grips all you want but if you cannot do 20 dead hangs then it don't matter. When you change grips you have to be at the fully extended position, and then bring your chin up to the bar for it to count as 1. After you've already maxed out the other way it's not going to be easy to get much more, if any. You'll probably be like most guys who try it and squirm like a dead fish and get nothing. Blah, blah, blah about this guy or the other guy. This isn't the circus, train to do 20 one way. Actually train to do 25 one way, that way you'll always get your 20.
Motto Poolee
02-10-08, 08:43 AM
I got a buddy who usually does 10 one way then 10 the other way, but yesterday he just did 21 front grips.
thewookie
02-10-08, 08:53 AM
I know a guy that can leap over the moon. Really he can. Anything is possible since we put a man on the moon.
brian21johansen
02-10-08, 09:01 AM
Yea but the Marine who has that pull up record of 76 or whatever it is made that record when "kipping" was allowed. I'm sure he can still do a ton of pullups but no way can he do 76 without kipping.
Phantom Blooper
02-10-08, 09:39 AM
Switching grips....you need to go out and get laid....then you wouldn't have that problem!:p
:evilgrin:
The record is at 76, right? The guy was an enlisted 30 year old with 2 degrees? I think I read about him online somewhere.
The record is in the 90s. I forget the exact amount. And I believe the recruit (it was at San Diego) was 19. And they actually made him stop because he was showing no signs of stopping. And this was done in 2007, after kipping became illegal.
Mhmm okay, I looked up the official MCO for the PFT and didn't really see what I was looking for, nor have I ever read about this...I could ask my recruiter but its kind of late so I don't really want to call him right now...anyways,
When it comes to pull-up's I'm aware you can go from chin-up to pull-up form as long as you don't drop off the bar...my question is, if you are doing a chin-up can you also go reg-grip to close-grip to wide-grip to switch to pull-up to close-grip, then to reg-grip, then to wide-grip...
Obviously you wouldn't REALLY do ALL of these in one PFT...but I would see doing regular chin-ups then going to a close-grip as quite plausible...
Anyways, is this well, LEGAL? I have a tendancy to just sit around and think about things in abstract/different ways and was simply wondering about this.
I can do like 25 the "hardcore way" they call it overhand or someting idk. But sometimes i will get to like 23 and switch positions and do like one or two more so yeah you can switch buts its just not logical to do it more than once.
Switching grips....you need to go out and get laid....then you wouldn't have that problem!:p
:evilgrin:
Nice one Staff Sergeant!! ;)
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