View Full Version : Meritorious Promotion board?
DobbinsBlythe
02-08-08, 08:33 AM
Ok, So yesterday I found out David's going to be put up for one...
How do they work? Is it by nomination? Is there stuff he needs to study? This is a brand new area for me.
(Just when I THOUGHT I had a pretty good idea bout military life.. -- 21 years as a military brat, and 1.2 years as a military wife....)
Please help!
God Bless!
kaboom1371
02-08-08, 08:39 AM
hope this helps you.
http://www.marines.mil/marinelink/mcn2000.nsf/0/1E5F569169CE5310852570AB00735F57?opendocument
DobbinsBlythe
02-08-08, 08:55 AM
That's really good info! Thank you!
kaboom1371
02-08-08, 04:11 PM
anytime, Hope he does well and gets his promotion.
thewookie
02-08-08, 05:10 PM
He better study, and have a little luck in him because it's very competitive. It took me 4 times to finally win a meritorious Corporal board. Although I lost the meritorious promotion the weekend before I was due to get pinned due to a fight with the duty NCO in the barracks (you'll never win fighting the duty NCO.) So instead of getting pinned on the second, they gave it to me on the first, TIG/TIS.
CPL Nelly
02-08-08, 05:16 PM
It also depends on how many people he is competeing with and how many slots are open. Current events is a big on boards from what I remember and that was just 3 years ago that I was on my last one. Tell him good luck and to maintain his bearing no matter what.
Zulu 36
02-08-08, 07:43 PM
Merit promotions boards are interesting, nerve racking, and still a bit fun. I stood two for meritorious corporal as the VMA-211 nominee and made it the second time. My boards were really big on Marine knowledge, history, and current events.
As I was in Vietnam for these boards, Marine knowledge was really hit hard. Although, I was told by my first sergeant that the difference between first and second place on both of my boards hinged on Marine Corps history questions.
There was only one corporal slot available for the whole air group both times (MAG-12) and we had an infantry company attached who was in on the board too.
My board consisted of all of the group's first sergeants and the group sergeant major. Tough room. My first sergeant had been a recon Marine, so he didn't toss me any softballs.
Every board is a little bit different in makeup and each unit runs theirs a little different than others. As mine was an air group, there were aviation types, grunts, motor transport (me), Remington raiders, and other MOSs standing up, so the questions had to be less MOS specific than if, say, the infantry company was allowed to run their own board.
LeonardLawrence
02-08-08, 08:07 PM
Great Information above.
Also appearance, bearing is a high priority. I went to a Meritorious board. I had a Corporal pull me aside after and ream me out. Best advice I ever received and I carried it through my career.
Some of the questions asked can be challenging to say the least. I was asked one and rather than a professional response, I immediately stated that "I have no idea, SSGT". It was a boot answer and it cost me an extra year to make Corporal as a result...all of us had the same questions right, but the military bearing took the prize.
Good luck to him! and you!
DobbinsBlythe
02-08-08, 08:58 PM
Ouch, lots of advice from experience! Thanks for all the info. I'll make sure he's all squared away. I have a good Marine in my household, so I'm sure he'll do fine. He made Corporal before his two year mark. (October 1 promotion, Feb 12 is his two-year)
He's always on the up and ups when it comes to what's going on in the world, but I'll make sure he pays special attention to the things he may have forgotten from Boot Camp.
Thanks again for EVERYTHING!
God Bless
thewookie
02-09-08, 06:56 AM
My problem was at the time I was Motor T, in a Grunt battalion and they didn't ask any Motor T questions so it took me some time. I was thinking about it a little more last night,,
1st time - lost at company level
2nd time - won company, lost at battalion
3rd time - won company, lost at battalion
4th time - won company, won battalion, lost regimental (still got the Bn. quota for Cpl)
And the rest is history, instead of meritorious Cpl., my stupidity resulted in a page 11 entry for being disrespectful to an NCO (the Duty) but, like I said I still got it the same month, only a day sooner.
As the others have mentioned bearing is critical, especially when he doesn't know the answer,,they told us to say "I do not know the answer to that question at this time, but I will find out and report back to you". They will stump him, they have so many possible questions to ask him, so his bearing, his PFT and rifle scores plus pro and cons, and what's already in his book is just as important as the actual ability to recite knowledge.
DobbinsBlythe
02-10-08, 08:11 AM
wow......
I'm excited about this. :D Since MOS school he's got either 4.8/4.8 or 4.7/4.7. Never anything below, he still has a first class PFT and his rifle scores are awesome. He just got his second expert award.
I'm going to study just so I can quiz him hahaha!
DobbinsBlythe
02-12-08, 10:48 PM
I just found out that there may not be a board.. and that he may have just been "nominated" or "recommended" to be promoted to Sgt. Evidentally you have to be "submitted" to have any sort of consideration promotion-wise.
Is that what it sounds like to you guys? He really doesn't know if there will be a board or not. Now I'm thoroughly confused... YAY!
:D
thewookie
02-12-08, 10:57 PM
Really anything is possible, if the Battalion or unit has a number of quotas for Sergeant and they don't want to, or can't run a board then the command has every right to pin him if he's been "nominated". Or he could have been nominated at the company level but he still has to go to a Battalion board? Semper Gumby
DobbinsBlythe
02-12-08, 11:00 PM
I don't think he's really assigned to any BN. Here at CENTCOM everything is joint.. essentially he does all his paperwork through MARCENT, but his shop supervisor is an AF SSgt. His shop senior NCO is an AF MSgt... and essentially is "CO" is an Army O-6?
It's so confusing to not really be around the fleet. It's nice to live here.. kinda, but the lack of structure around this base boggles my mind.
thewookie
02-12-08, 11:11 PM
Well, if whatever unit he's with has Sgt quotas then he might just get pinned without a board. Good luck
DobbinsBlythe
02-13-08, 06:40 AM
WOW! :D I'm getting excited hahaha.
Thanks again for all your help!
Matt Brzycki
02-13-08, 07:17 AM
I was nominated for meritorious promotion to sergeant back in Nov 77 at what was then MCB 29 Palms. First hadda go in front of a board from my unit. Didn't get past that. Rightfully so as I was ill-prepared for the questions. Good experience, though. I was put up again two months later and made it. I seem to recall a lot of general Marine Corps questions and others unrelated to my MOS. I remember one general question was who I respected most in our unit and why.
I did hear a really funny anecdote from a friend of mine who was in the motor pool, Sgt Ronnie Keaton from Arkansas. (You out there, man?) Ronnie said that when he went up for a meritorious promotion, he was asked if he could drive an M112 or something or other. He said, "Yes sir!" which drew a few chuckles from the board. The guy who asked the question then informed him that an M112 (or whatever) was a water buffalo. Then, Ronnie stated, "Sir, a Marine can do anything." Needless to say, that response earned him a promotion.
Matt Brzycki
Sergeant (1975-79)
DobbinsBlythe
02-13-08, 07:59 PM
So tonight, while discussing meritorious promotions with the Marine of the house, he stated that he has the best wife ever.. because of my "unrelenting" (I don't know if that's good or bad) support.. and went on to tell me about a friend of his:
This particular friend used to be running neck and neck for promotions on time and ahead of others.. but recently has gotten himself in a rutt. He has poor performance, tries to get out of everything as much as possible, and has had MCIs laying around for months on end. My husband told me that his lack of motivation is probably directly related to the fact that he spends so much time away from his wife, who doesn't really understand the nature of military life and responsibilities. When she does have the chance to move back to be with him, things might be different, especially when she understands what he has to do to get ahead.. or even caught up.
It makes me think.. and realize to a deeper note that the things I am doing right now are the things that help keep my husband motivated and moving along the right track. Please, if my questions at anytime or place start to get too overwhelming (as in too many), remember that I'm just trying to support my husband the best way I know how. A prepared Marine is a good Marine. That's what I think.. and the prepared wife is the ultimate tool for a prepared Marine. :D
I appreciate all the help everyone's given me in being a more prepared USMC spouse. I hope to learn everything I can.
Phantom Blooper
02-13-08, 08:15 PM
Being the season of love.....this just makes me all warm and fuzzy!
Good luck to your Marine husband!:evilgrin:
DobbinsBlythe
02-13-08, 08:17 PM
OMG.. I forgot tomorrow was V-day. Oh no...
What do you get a Marine for Valentine's day?
Phantom Blooper
02-13-08, 08:18 PM
TMI....:banana:
DobbinsBlythe
02-13-08, 08:26 PM
:: cough ::
Other than that. You always know that cards and flowers and candies and stuff like that work for girls... but what do you get a Marine?
The "TMI" stuff.. that's not a gift. LOL
LeonardLawrence
02-13-08, 11:16 PM
:: cough ::
Other than that. You always know that cards and flowers and candies and stuff like that work for girls... but what do you get a Marine?
The "TMI" stuff.. that's not a gift. LOL
BELT FED WEAPONS!:cool: :D
davblay
02-14-08, 12:06 AM
OMG.. I forgot tomorrow was V-day. Oh no...
What do you get a Marine for Valentine's day?
A 6 pack of beer and a sheep herders sandwich, Always worked for me! LMAO! :marine:
Dave
DobbinsBlythe
02-14-08, 06:15 AM
BELT FED WEAPONS!:cool: :D
wow.. under the $500 range...
Besides, he already has a TON of weapons. I'm so at a loss...
Food works right?
Phantom Blooper
02-14-08, 06:38 AM
ZIPPER fed weapons are much cheaper Leonard and are more fun!:beer:
:evilgrin:
Isrowei
02-14-08, 04:47 PM
I just found out that there may not be a board.. and that he may have just been "nominated" or "recommended" to be promoted to Sgt. Evidentally you have to be "submitted" to have any sort of consideration promotion-wise.
Is that what it sounds like to you guys? He really doesn't know if there will be a board or not. Now I'm thoroughly confused... YAY!
:D
I believe that you're referring to the recommendation for promotion. Every Marine that is eligible by TIG/TIS requirements (regardless of cutting score) has to either be recommended or not recommended for promotion by their senior. For most Marines, they don't even think about it. However, it is a tool that the leadership has to make sure only the most qualified Marines are able to be promoted. Non-rec requires justification and a page 11 entry however, so it's not a light measure by any means.
DobbinsBlythe
02-14-08, 08:27 PM
I believe that you're referring to the recommendation for promotion. Every Marine that is eligible by TIG/TIS requirements (regardless of cutting score) has to either be recommended or not recommended for promotion by their senior. For most Marines, they don't even think about it. However, it is a tool that the leadership has to make sure only the most qualified Marines are able to be promoted. Non-rec requires justification and a page 11 entry however, so it's not a light measure by any means.
What do you mean by Non-rec and light measures?
You're confusing me a little. I know that the suggestion that someone thinks my husband is deserving of a promotion to Sgt is DEFINATELY not a light matter. I'm super excited that he's being acknowledged. Anyway, please enlighten me. This is the most detail I've really gotten.. other than the info about the Marine Corps knowledge and bearing.
Oh yeah, and to update everyone, he's deploying next month :(
Only 90 days though.. and I can't say exactly when hehe.. Yay for OPSEC!
SlingerDun
02-14-08, 08:43 PM
What do you get a Marine for Valentine's day?...Food works right?Yeah it works to plug a hole in an empty belly for a couple of hours. But a gift certificate from Danner boots should last about one year:yes:
--->Dave
DobbinsBlythe
02-14-08, 08:51 PM
Eh, suggestions are too late at this point haha. I got him some cheesecake and a card and some chocolate dipped strawberries... and some champange... that he can have when he's off duty again. :D
LeonardLawrence
02-14-08, 11:29 PM
ZIPPER fed weapons are much cheaper Leonard and are more fun!:beer:
:evilgrin:
Ssgt,
I won't argue, but for some of us it's debatable...and I stand by MA DEUCE (50 cal machine gun) as the ultimate Valentines Day gift.
Besides, What woman could give you a 6 to 9 round burst and last all day?? ;)
Phantom Blooper
02-15-08, 04:10 AM
Very few Leonard.....I would have to agree...however it is sometimes nice to change barrels to keep them from overheating and melting....and the old rifleman cliche....."One well aimed round" is all that counts!:beer:
DobbinsBlythe
02-15-08, 06:26 AM
Ok, so here's an update ...
Last night while we got our.. hour to talk before he went in for the conference (11pm to 9 am today) he mentioned something about MECEP. I know that's the Mustang program...
He asked how I felt about it, and I said I'd support him through anything.. which is true, but I'd really like to know more about it. Anyone know? Or should I post a new thread?
LeonardLawrence
02-15-08, 10:27 PM
http://www.marineocs.com/portal/index.php
You have it right as usual SSGT..... :beer:
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