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[rvillac2]

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Sgt V

[davblay]

Well worded, well written, spelling good....ummm ok, Great post brother! :marine:

Semper Fi

Dave

[Big Jim]

Well Said Brother....well Said....

[WalkingMan]

Well worded, well written, spelling good....ummm ok, Great post brother! :marine:

Semper Fi

Dave

One tiny correction...in #8, I think you meant to say 'which *is* the reason', and not 'which *us* the reason'.

Other than that, excellent!

[Sgt Leprechaun]

OUTstanding!!!!!!

Now, if only it would be read....and followed...and adhered to....

*snicker*

Still, it's a great set of rules!

[davblay]

One tiny correction...in #8, I think you meant to say 'which *is* the reason', and not 'which *us* the reason'.

Other than that, excellent!

I didn't say anything about good grammar!

[Sgt Leprechaun]

I can't believe I missed out on the stinky question!!!!

Dang.

You snooze, you lose.

Pearls of wisdom....lost to time....

Ah, well.

[GySgtRet]

you have provided waht we all should have thought of. Your right this has to be read to be followed. Time will tell. I enjoy the mentoring part if only the wannabees would just gloss over things that we as Marines put on the forum. I have noticed that if a poolee or wannabee answers before we get the opprotunity to answer we are now glossed over and they may have recived the answer but it may not be complete.

Semper Fi

:flag:

[WalkingMan]

Yep... this thread... the first post with the list on it... should probably be set to 'sticky', so it stays at the top of the list.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Bump.

Mods, I agree, this should be at the top of the page on this one.

[thedrifter]

Done Marines!

Read and Heed Wanabee's/Poolees.

Ellie

[Sgt Leprechaun]

THANK YOU! As always, you are the greatest!

[SlingerDun]

“arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics; you may win, but you’re still retarded"Who coined this line for credit? It's been dropped in my bag of one liners to entertain and appease customers when good old skill and hard work just isn't enough for these people.

--->Dave

[jinelson]

Bump Fire for effect!

Jim

[Sgt Leprechaun]

I know that I've used it here, but it's not a "Leprechaun original" by any means.

I checked my 'quotes' folder and it appears to have come from this site sometime in 2006, from a Sergeant. That's all I've got.

[lolcorps]

I enlisted in the corps in NOVEMBER 1993. I graduated as a lcpl from The Island. While at SOI I tore my achilles tendon in my left ankle. My 1st Sgt not a doctor told me that with this injury they were going to change my mos to the armory. I wasnt having that. I decided to go u.a. for 13 days. Came back told them I smoked some weed and got discharged with a o.t.h.. As a little kid I was in a program called the young marines so all I wanted in life was to be a big marine. The o.t.h. hasnt hurt me because I have a excellent job with the goverment. LOL I guess they dont do back ground checks. What I want to know is would it be possible to join the reserves at 32yrs old with my o.t.h.. I know the actions that I chose were my own but being a young kid didnt realize i was giving uo my dreams. Is it possible for a waiver? If anyone can help please let me know. If not thanks anyway. p.s. desparate help needed.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Read the site rules and fill out a profile. Until then, you won't get a response.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

And...you most assuredly did NOT get the response you were looking for on the other post.

I suggest you not darken our doorstep again. You do so at your own peril.

[GySgtRet]

I hope to hell not on all accounts for a waiver and I do hope that you are found out. You think that we are hostile now what until we find out who you are and where you are. The Marine Corps may be small but and I doubt that you remember this at all we overcome,and adapt. Please don't come back. This time we are nice. The next time we will be hostile you misearable POS.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Shoe sniffers. I think we've coined a new phrase.

Too bad the other thread had to go away.

Likely this one will too. That old thread should be saved someplace for posterity!

[SlingerDun]

I know the actions that I chose were my own but being a young kid didnt realize i was giving uo my dreams.Tragic, ain't that a LOL b*tch

[bigalholmes165]

I enlisted in the corps in NOVEMBER 1993. I graduated as a lcpl from The Island. While at SOI I tore my achilles tendon in my left ankle. My 1st Sgt not a doctor told me that with this injury they were going to change my mos to the armory. I wasnt having that. I decided to go u.a. for 13 days. Came back told them I smoked some weed and got discharged with a o.t.h.. As a little kid I was in a program called the young marines so all I wanted in life was to be a big marine. The o.t.h. hasnt hurt me because I have a excellent job with the goverment. LOL I guess they dont do back ground checks. What I want to know is would it be possible to join the reserves at 32yrs old with my o.t.h.. I know the actions that I chose were my own but being a young kid didnt realize i was giving uo my dreams. Is it possible for a waiver? If anyone can help please let me know. If not thanks anyway. p.s. desparate help needed.

Damm, the other thread was poofed, and I missed out on the flaming.

Sheeit - Lep, PM me with your response.

[LeonardLawrence]

Sgt Rvillac2,

Great thoughts.

The other thing that would be helpful would be to put a title on the post that is relevant. Making the title "help?" makes it a bit harder to search...and causes me to sigh before I open it...

Maybe a title such as "Help With RE-4 Enlistment" or "Dear Chilli" would get more reads and responses.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Big Al, tried to respond to you but you can't get PM's for some reason.

Big Al, it was a classic. To sum up, our toolsack was quite snippy (I guess sniffing all those shoes makes one high or something) as well as being a smartazz to REAL Marines (those who didn't get OTH's for being a 'tard) while whining that he wanted to 'go arrhmy' and how he'd screwed up his life but managed to put one over on the gummint as he was now a TSA shoe sniffer even WITH an OTH because they didnt' do a background etc etc etc.

If I didn't know otherwise, I'd swear it was a 'dear Chilli' letter gone bad.

The mods probably figured it was going south fast, and dumped the thread before shoe sniffer was thrashed anymore. Things were getting pretty bloody.

[WalkingMan]

I enlisted in the corps in NOVEMBER 1993. I graduated as a lcpl from The Island. While at SOI I tore my achilles tendon in my left ankle. My 1st Sgt not a doctor told me that with this injury they were going to change my mos to the armory. I wasnt having that. I decided to go u.a. for 13 days. Came back told them I smoked some weed and got discharged with a o.t.h.. As a little kid I was in a program called the young marines so all I wanted in life was to be a big marine. The o.t.h. hasnt hurt me because I have a excellent job with the goverment. LOL I guess they dont do back ground checks. What I want to know is would it be possible to join the reserves at 32yrs old with my o.t.h.. I know the actions that I chose were my own but being a young kid didnt realize i was giving uo my dreams. Is it possible for a waiver? If anyone can help please let me know. If not thanks anyway. p.s. desparate help needed.

Samething happened to me.....same exact thing except for the 2nd u.a.. The scum bag marines at Geiger r just that. All I can tell u is the marines will be your big brother until something goes wrong. Once a marine always a marine is bull crap. Look at the post your getting in return. I can tell u I got a o.t.h. to my friend-re-4b and I have great life working for the govt. Don't be fooled by these guys. Honorable or o.t.h. the govt doesnt have time to check backgrounds nowadays. keep your head up kid, and when you have grand kids you can tell them you had NO PART in this occupation.....because a war it is NOT. vietnam was a war this is a mere gang fight going on.lol



Do you remember the oath you took, when you joined the Marine Corps?

There is a copy of it, and the Code of Conduct at:

http://www.uspharmd.com/usmc/marine_code_of_conduct.html

You should read these, and then ask yourself how it can be, that you have sunk to your current state of affairs.

You violated the Oath you affirmed, and you betrayed the spirit of Semper Fidelis, by not keeping faith with your fellow Marines.

You thought only of yourself, and allowed your self will to supersede the collective will of the Corps, by rebelling like a child, when you were posted to the armory.

You decided to go U.A. You chose to abuse yourself with drugs. You chose to obtain a government job by means of deceit.

Then you decided to paint yourself as the victim.

The Marine Corps is the Tip of the Spear. Our lives literally depend on our teammates. You turned your back on your teammates by rebelling against your Chain of Command, going U.A., abusing yourself with illegal drugs, and abusing your country by lying to get a government job.

Would you trust a person who has behaved as you have behaved, to watch your back in combat?

I don't think you would.

We are presently at war with an enemy (Islam) which does indeed have the potential to destroy the U.S.A. and the entire free world, and which has stated its intention many, many times, to do just exactly that, so I would not characterise the current conflict as a 'gang fight'. Check my public profile, to determine if I am speaking from personal experience, or not.

The Marine Corps is not designed to rehabilitate individuals with personal problems that interfere with their ability to perform in combat, doing their assigned tasks. It is a branch of the Military Service that deploys Warriors... real Operators... on the field of battle, in service to the Commander in Chief.

You knew this when you joined.

You might want to consider getting yourself squared away. Get honest with yourself. If you are any sort of victim, you are a victim of your own making... you did it all to yourself.

If you are illegaly employed, quit your job.

Lying, cheating, stealing, using drugs, blaming others, playing the victim... you know better.

Once... you were a Marine. Remember?

Semper Fidelis is something one does, and gives from within one's self... not something one expects as their right, to be delivered to them like some sort of Welfare Payment... without being earned.

You still have the capacity to live in a manner which is honourable, and to serve your country in a manner which will do justice to its Founders, but you will have to work hard at it, because living such a life is never an easy task, in either Military or Civilian life.

You 'LOL' rings sort of hollow.

I do not think that you are laughing at all.

[ttracker65]

Is this lolcorps bird for real?? he has just admitted to fraud??? wow i do not get this and hope that no up comming recruit is subject to this nut case. The true AntiMarine i am still shocked that he posted that unless he put one to many away at the beer garden.

[Sgt Leprechaun]

I think the screen name pretty much said it all. The guy was a tard of the highest order and has now been whisked away via the black helicopter after a serious fire mission.

[PatriotGirl422]

This started out as such a healthy and productive thread...

[davblay]

Mods, why not delete this mess except the first post (beings how it is a sticky), then close it down! I's gotten out of hand and the new people really don't need to read all this stuff! JMHO!

Dave

[marinefrmtexas]

Do you remember the oath you took, when you joined the Marine Corps?

There is a copy of it, and the Code of Conduct at:

http://www.uspharmd.com/usmc/marine_code_of_conduct.html

You should read these, and then ask yourself how it can be, that you have sunk to your current state of affairs.

You violated the Oath you affirmed, and you betrayed the spirit of Semper Fidelis, by not keeping faith with your fellow Marines.

You thought only of yourself, and allowed your self will to supersede the collective will of the Corps, by rebelling like a child, when you were posted to the armory.

You decided to go U.A. You chose to abuse yourself with drugs. You chose to obtain a government job by means of deceit.

Then you decided to paint yourself as the victim.

The Marine Corps is the Tip of the Spear. Our lives literally depend on our teammates. You turned your back on your teammates by rebelling against your Chain of Command, going U.A., abusing yourself with illegal drugs, and abusing your country by lying to get a government job.

Would you trust a person who has behaved as you have behaved, to watch your back in combat?

I don't think you would.

We are presently at war with an enemy (Islam) which does indeed have the potential to destroy the U.S.A. and the entire free world, and which has stated its intention many, many times, to do just exactly that, so I would not characterise the current conflict as a 'gang fight'. Check my public profile, to determine if I am speaking from personal experience, or not.

The Marine Corps is not designed to rehabilitate individuals with personal problems that interfere with their ability to perform in combat, doing their assigned tasks. It is a branch of the Military Service that deploys Warriors... real Operators... on the field of battle, in service to the Commander in Chief.

You knew this when you joined.

You might want to consider getting yourself squared away. Get honest with yourself. If you are any sort of victim, you are a victim of your own making... you did it all to yourself.

If you are illegaly employed, quit your job.

Lying, cheating, stealing, using drugs, blaming others, playing the victim... you know better.

Once... you were a Marine. Remember?

Semper Fidelis is something one does, and gives from within one's self... not something one expects as their right, to be delivered to them like some sort of Welfare Payment... without being earned.

You still have the capacity to live in a manner which is honourable, and to serve your country in a manner which will do justice to its Founders, but you will have to work hard at it, because living such a life is never an easy task, in either Military or Civilian life.

You 'LOL' rings sort of hollow.

I do not think that you are laughing at all.

very well stated could have said it better myself oorah oorah semper fi

[Bulkyker]

This started out as such a healthy and productive thread...

I think there is some productivity coming out of all this crap. Woodall on another thread said learn how to be a good Marine from good Marines and how not to be a bad Marine from bad Marines.

Here is an example for poolees and wannabes of what not to do and what the response of other Marines will be if you do decide to act like an idiot.

[Marine84]

Maybe the system could be rigged to where newbies HAVE to read the stickies before they can read anything else. There seems to be a lot of them here lately that come in and start spoutin' off before they read anything.