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Achped
10-31-07, 10:37 PM
I was given so much advice on this forum, by so many different Marines, I would name names, but I'm afraid I'll leave someone out. (Lots of SSgts, Sgts, Cpls, and a feisty female LCpl...)

Anyways, here's my story.

I depped in, 20060713 (I still remember the hispanic Navy Petty Officer telling us how to write the date down) MEPS was weird, I didn't go to a hotel because its only 20 minutes away. I went by myself, although I had 3 other buddies joining with me, they were on a vacation. (2 twins and a friend)

Well, I was in the DEP with them from July till my ship date, 20070611...we pt'd all the time, Me and another guy, on our final IST were at 17 pullups, 100+ crunches, and around a 10:30 run time. The two twins were at about 21 pullups, 100+ crunches, and an 8:30 run time.

At MEPS, Parris Island was the last bus leaving, all the shippers, AF, Army, and Navy left before us, it was about 1400 before they called Parris Island, and I don't know if you know this, but by 1400 MEPS is a ghost town...very erie.

We were escorted to the most rickety tickety bus I've ever seen. It looked straight out of a movie. Something I'd expect Marine Corps recruits to travel in.

Went on the bus drive to Parris Island, listened to horror stories from the bus driver. (Which I found out were ALL lies. Telling us about "STD checks" and how they'd be probing ALL our holes...such a freaking liar lol) he also told us we'd be sent to Levenworth if we had any contraband on us (which he said coins were, that bastard probably made about 20$ in change off of us, not to mention the ciggarettes, lighters, etc (which really are contraband))

We met up with another bus at Jacksonville, Florida, and travelled the rest of the way on that bus (it was alot nicer than ours) it came from the other MEPS in Florida in the panhandle.

Well, our arrival to MCRD PI could not have been more...terrifying. It was pouring, midnight, thundering, lightning. I kept saying to myself "This figures". The bus leaked, it was insane. When we finally got to the depot, we were ordered to put our heads down, and hold our ID's above our heads then MPs came aboard. I never looked up, these guys were mean! (Hahaha...right) They came and checked us out and told us we all smelled, we were nasty, blah blah. You will be terrified when this happens, but trust me, its nothing.

They got off, and we continued, until finally, we stopped. (Tick....tick...tick) I swear we must have been stopped for....an hour. It seemed like an eternity. I kept hearing people get on and off the bus, loud stomps of boots. Im like oh my God. There's gonna be a DI right in my face when I look up. Finally, silence.....then.....on that monday night...staring me right in the face, greener, bigger, and more textured than I'd pictured it, a smokey, on the head of a United States Marine Corps drill instructor. A sergeant with more ribbons than I could count, and a face meaner than a bulldog.

"YOU ARE NOW ABOARD MARINE CORPS RECRUIT DEPOT PARRIS ISLAND SOUTH CAROLINA. YOU WILL ADDRESS EVERYONE ABOARD THIS DEPOT AS SIR OR MA'AM. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?"

We all replied with

YES SIR!

"I DIDNT HEAR YOU!"

"YES SIR!!!"

"GET OFF MY BUS, PROCEED DIRECTLY TO THE TWO SILVER PORTHOLES, GET HEEL TO TOE AND THE TOES OF THE RECRUITS IN FRONT WILL TOUCH THE FIRST STEP, MOVE!!!"

It was raining, so we didn't get on the footprints, but got in four columns lined up at the base of the steps (it was covered from the rain)

We then were taught about certain articles of the UCMJ, going UA, disrespect, etc.

Then we filed it off inside. We were told to sit in the metal desks with our heads down, we filled out tags and tied them to our shoes, they had our platoon number on them. The way the platoons work, is they go down the rows counting off till they get to a certain number, and they fill the platoon from the last group (either you all will be in the same platoon, or they will fill the old platoon, and half way through you will become the next platoon in the company...with us, a few of us were assigned to plt 2073, the rest started 2074)

That building by the way, has the weirdest smell. It is...weird. Its like the most powerful, but unique air freshener you will ever smell. Its like a rubbery...chemical smell, but there's no rubber. You'll seee.....haha Also, expect alot of "Write your name down, say aye sir" "AYE SIR!" Write down P-L-T 2074, say aye sir". Expect to be told to say Aye sir for the first....month lol. Always scream it. You will never be punished, ONLY REWARDED, for screaming. I know a guy who was made guide in receiving simply because he always yelled.

We then went immediately to hair cuts (OUCH!).

Then we signed in, some PFC did that, weird, calling an 18 year old PFC sir, doing everything he says. (He didn't yell, but when he got ****ed, he called in the DIs) Then we went to a huge room and sat....and sat....and waited until a few more busses came, and our platoon was filled. It must've been a few hours at least, just sitting in this room. Then we got our initial issue (clothing and hygiene gear, trust me, you dont need ANYTHING from home)

After that it was like a blur. I remember hearing platoons marching when we were getting our hygiene gear, so it must have been at least 04 or 0500. I was like wow...its really happening! I'm here! (Its weird, because you have no idea what the outside looks like, you dont know whats going on outside, but you can hear yells and screams...its terrifying)

Again, I'm blanked out until later that day, when we were all exhausted, they made us do the moment of truth. Trust me, that room was like 100 degrees, it was sweltering, we were all passing out, just wanting to go home, yes, all of us were like "Seriously, this isn't for us, lets just make stuff up so we can go home". I hate to admit it, but alot of us were ready to quit, and we'd been there a scant 12 hours. No one did though. The Marine promised us everything, like if we'd killed someone he could get a waiver for it, but he NEEDED TO KNOW. I felt weird, because I knew he was lieing, but at the same time I wanted out of there soooo bad. Every one of those recruits in my platoon that stood up and went with him were never seen again. (For the record, I found out later, the AC works perfectly in that room, they do it on purpose.)

I was made the scribe almost immediately (just for my asvab score, a 95) The rest of that week was spent getting our issued gear (canteens, packs, rifles, etc), I held some of the paperwork our receiving DI had (the coolest DI I'd ever met on the island, he came and saw us throughout training to check on us, he was our firm foundation that led to us winning final drill. He spent all day every day teaching us) that paperwork had our schedule, it said "Bucket issue 0630...chow 1100" it was all cool, I knew what we were doing for the day and I'd tell my buddies, but there were no clocks, so we had no idea what time it was lol.

Bucket Issue, and I'm not going to lie, was probably the most hated day I've ever experienced my entire time on the island. They treated us like crap, not like DIs, DIs yell and scream, but if you do what you're supposed to do, they pretty much go "Hey, ok, lets find some other idiot". These guys were just brutal (it could have been because we'd never really been yelled at till that point, sure, DIs scream and stuff in receiving, but wait till you get your training DIs)

It was just a Sgt, a Cpl, and a Lance, but they were going nuts. It was also, that morning, I experienced for the first time, sand fleas....like the nasty things we were, we slapped, scratched, itched, etc. Which made them play games with us. Like empty our packs out and re-check all of our stuff. (Ironically, on family day I had to go to bucket issue to turn in my big pack, because I hadn't been able to do it with the platoon, and the female LCpl that was working that day was such a sweetheart. Shes like "Hey honey, what are you doing? Why do you have that pack with you in your charlies?" She didn't make me sort everything out, she had two of the recruits on team week empty it out, and she told them to sort it all out, shes like "I trust you, go spend time with your family" and as I was leaving the recruits walked passed me "BY YOUR LEAVE, GOOD AFTERNOON SIR!" It was so awesome haha.)

Anyways, I don't really remember much until Saturday. We did our IST, and came back to the squad bay. We showered, and sat in a school circle in front of the front quarterdeck as our CO came on deck. He read a speech that every CO reads to his new company, as our senior drill instructor was introduced to us. He then introduced his green belts. They recited the DI creed and the CO left, and our senior read his little "My name is SDI Gy Sgt Gresham, as your SDI I will train you after most of you have given up, etc etc"

Our senior then stepped inside the DI house, and I swear to God, once that hatch was shut, the next 12 weeks of my life were the most stressful I'd ever experienced. The DIs took off, going NUTS! Making recruits hold footlockers, I'm not bragging, but I do well under stress, and my stuff is always squared away, so I wasn't messed with AT ALL. My thumbs were on my trouser seams, so our kill hat didn't "remind me" to put it where it belongs. I'm telling you, just do EXACTLY what you're told, you will do fine.

Things were being thrown, racks flipped, recruits were holding footlockers at the portholes going AYE SIR AYE SIR AYE SIR, repeatedly, it was a madhouse. Then our senior came out, said drill instructors get in the house, "Aye senior drill instructor" (You will learn to love this phrase)

Our senior then explained the purpose of the green belts, and his job, and how he could make everything go away if we did what we were told. He also explained if we messed up, he'd go home for the day and let them have a field day with us.

Our senior then saw a recruit scratch, ON FREAKING LINE, and said "...so that's how you want to do it, huh? I try to help you out, but you don't want it.....very well...."

He went in the house, and it started all over again. After about an hour, the heavy asked for the scribe, I said it was this recuit sir, and he's like "Good, you're the guide now."

"AYE SIR!"

I'm sure you don't want to read about every single day, but I'll explain it in phases.

1st Phase: Expect to be tortured at MCMAP haha, its all about muscle memory, you won't remember how to do the uppercut unless you're in the kneeling position (WITH your knee 2" off the deck) for 20 minutes or so. Pugil sticks, confidence and obstacle courses, lots of table PT, and lots and lots and lots of classes. You will love the classes, just don't fall asleep...trust me lol. If your commanding officer has to wake you up...your day will not be good. Every other free second of time you have will be spent drilling. Remember, POP those rifles, don't be lazy. You will be pitted.

Oh, and remember. EVERYONE embarasses the senior drill instructor. Don't think you're the first when some other DI catches you being retarded, and says you're embarassing him. Trust me. It will happen.

2nd Phase: Yeah, so you're in deserts now! Sweet! Get ready to kneel for hours on end while you're aiming at a white barrel dry firing your M16. Your PMI will be cool, won't hardly ever yell at you, but if he/she does...be aware. You will be killed by your DIs...who are right around the corner. The rifle range, firing weak, EASY stuff. Just don't be retarded with the rifle. Squeeze the trigger, focus on the front sight tip. I'm telling you, just DO WHAT THE PMI SAYS! Don't be on your OFP. The s*** works man, I'm serious. And your coach will usually tell you if you need a wind call. Even on qual day. Only do what your coach says. He has more experience than you, why risk it? You get free help!

Oh, in 2nd phase, expect to step it out ALOT. You'll have a daypack, and a rifle and your sleeves will never be rolled. You'll be stepping it out ALOT. I mean, ALOT. We would double time to the chow hall, then double time to the range from the chow hall (and of course we'd get the "Oh, you don't wanna scream? U-turn left! Faster guide!")

3rd phase: Team week is great, A-line, same thing as the range...step it out! The range for A-line is way in the boonies, I mean its WAY THE **** OUT THERE, so you will have a LONG way to go, and, our time at A-line it was green flag and rainy the whole time, so we'd be running and "INCOMING" drills would be...every 10 seconds. Our heavy said "Incoming isn't realistic enough" so he started making whistling noises, and we'd have to hit the deck before he went BOOOOOOM. If we were still standing we'd be "assasinated" (You'll find out...)

BWT SUCKED. What happens in the platoon stays in the platoon, so I won't go into any secrets about those c-huts...but...DAMN lol. Thats where Marines are made! (Oh, and get as close as you can to a hatch as possible, I was a squad leader so they made me sleep at the first rack by the hatch do NOT get a rack in the middle, TRUST me) One day during free time (we only got 1 hour of free time the entire 4 days we were there) we saw the platoon next to us run into the tree line in skivvies and shower shoes only lol. Then their DI would yell "INCOMING"....and...well their showers were pretty useless after that lol.

After BWT we had admin week, basically alot of PT, classes, pretty easy week. I don't remember anything particular difficult that week, OH, actually, the Monday of that week we shot the M249 and the AT-4. Other than that, it was pretty easy. We had a 3 mile form run (our first time our DIs sang cadence other than LEFT FOOT...LEFT FOOT)

After that was our final test, prac app (easy! Don't stress it, you will though, but dont) and our final PFT. Our Final PFT was a wednesday. Thursday at 0200 we humped out to the crucible.

The crucible is NOT that bad, trust me. I did it on a broken foot. If my foot was ok, I would honestly have loved it. It wasn't bad at all, it was kinda fun, but I was a squad leader, and my DI liked me. (This is the first time you will speak to DIs like humans. Our DI let us say "I" and "me" and "his" and "You". Didn't rate to call him SSgt yet though)

You are so motivated on the hump back, you can get through it. My foot was really beat up though. That was Sep 1st, and my foots still not better. Puts it in perspective huh? lol

Then you are finally given your EGA, and you are a Marine. You shake your DIs hand, which is WEIRD AS HELL lol. You feel like he's gonna crush it or something. You then will go back to the squad bay, shower, put on clean cammies (probably deserts) and go to your warriors breakfast. I was at a table in the chow hall with 2 other squad leaders, and OUR FREAKING SDI SAT WITH US. We didn't know what to say. We were just like...uhhh.... good morning SIR!" and hes like shutup with that **** Marines, you're my squad leaders, set the example PFCs!

"Aye Gunnery Sgt!"

He asked us how we liked the food and if they had anything particular he should try. So we told him to get the omelets, he came back with some, and was like "Good choice, I'm loving it."

Gave us some advice, then the rest of the week was spent with some BS classes on money management and stuff, graduation practice (Which SUCKS) and cleaning! Our Bn Commanders inspection was Tuesday, so we had Sunday and monday to spend cleaning our weapons, ironing, and everything.

The weirdest night of all of boot camp though, the night before family day. There were no DIs on our deck from about 2000 till 2300 when a DI from another deck said what are you Marines doing? Go to sleep, he shut the lights off and we passed out everywhere, some Marines slept on the deck in the head on their ironing boards haha. IT was NUTS! When we woke up in the morning, I was in bed rest for my foot, and my DI came up to me before the lights came on and said "why aren't you up yet?"

I said "I'm on bed rest man!" (I didnt know it was a DI) and he said "Very well, stay off the foot! Don't wanna see you get sent to BMP"

I like, jumped up verticly in my rack and said AYE STAFF SGT! I just called a DRILL INSTRUCTOR, ON PARRIS ISLAND "Man!" lol, it was CRAZY! He didnt even care!

Well, that day was family day, its a weird feeling, then the next day was graduation, and then, you're home!

Any questions? I have lots of tips, like "Simple things" you should know, but its late. I'm tired.

Oh what the heck.

When using the head, ALWAYS shave in the shower. Trust me, Its so much easier. In the beginning, you will be scared and your DI will probably be in the shower with you, but by 2nd phase, shave in the shower! Just run in there, find a corner, lather up your face, shave, rinse the razor off on a shower head (but let someone use the shower! You're not showering!) and when you're done with that, soap up as best you can, rinse, and you'll be done shaving and showering before most are done with either. Its the best method, in 3rd phase, my rackmate and I would actually be done washing, so we'd sit in the rain room and just take turns relaxing under the warm water. We were the only ones in the platoon who figured out how to do this, I'm all about helping my brothers, but there's not even time or room for everyone to do it! Sure, we got the "Port sides in the rain room! Get out starboard side!" but we'd explain we're just sitting in the corner, not even under a shower, just shower, forget about us, and they did.

Chow hall, DO NOT LAUGH EVER. DIs stare through the glass bricks, and they can spot your teeth from a mile away. AND NEVER EVER EVER go in the DI chow area. Even if a DI tells you do! This happened to a recruit in our platoon, a DI from another platoon told him to go ask his DI a question or something, as soon as he crossed that threshhold some DI took his tray and threw it all over him, and smacked his cup out of his hand which soaked a recruit about 5 feet away with powerade. The recruit eventually started crying haha. OH, learn to eat FAST. I mean, FAST. I was a squad leader, literally, some days, we got like 2 minutes. EAT, FAST. I don't care if you have to mix lasagna with salad and jello. Do it. EAT FAST. You will be so hungry you won't care what it tastes like. Also, NEVER DRINK MILK. Not even with cereal! Unless its a Sunday, don't drink milk ever. In 3rd phase I started drinking it at night if they had it, and Sunday mornings, but don't EVER drink it before PT.

At the rifle range, you will see females, especially in the chow hall. DO NOT LOOK AT THEM. Those female DIs are the most savage beasts on the planet. I knew a Recruit Achped who happens to enjoy the opposite sex quite a bit, alot of 4th bn can look pretty....not good (think about how gross you are, they're just as bad! They don't get any more time than you do, that hair...lol)

But, alot of them can look pretty good too, especially if you haven't seen females since you got there (I hadn't.)

Well, idiot me gets caught smiling at one, she looked at me, I smiled, she kinda...smiled, but hesitantly faced foreward and started eating again, and her DIs let me have it worse than I'd ever got in my life. I had a ringing in my ears, It was EXACTLY like this video,

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Yja_MJazDuc

They took my fork and put it in my drink, and poured my drink on my tray, and told me to eat it and then spit it out, and eat it again. And spit it out. As they yelled how I don't rate to look at their females, and they wouldn't want anything to do with some nasty, oversized, disgusting, small d***ed recruit like myself. I had a female green belt leaning over 2 recruits from my platoon over the entire table, and about half an inch away from my face, not to mention the other green belt and senior I had in each ear. It was BAD. Trust me. Do not ever even THINK about LOOKING at a female. Just pretend they're not even there. In fact, face the bulkhead when they walk by, or your boots, look at the overhead even, NEVER look at them.

Never said "you, me, I, we, they, us, them" anything like that, never say "thank you", its always "RECEIVED SIR GOOD ___________ SIR!" Never let a DI walked past you without saying something. ALWAYS give the proper greeting and scream it. Always remember to salute an officer, even if he's in PT gear, (if it says Ser Cmdr, Co Cmdr, Bn XO, anything except DI or SDI on his PT shirt, salute him after you pass him. Also, if he has alot of hair on his head, you might as well salute. I never saw a DI with any hair at all.)

Don't salute the officer of the day if he's not an officer, only DIs salute him when giving a report lol. (I made this mistake at the rifle range) The officer of the day will be wearing a Senior drill instructor black belt but with a SOFT cover, not a smokey bear.

And something simple, shouldn't even have to say it, SCREAM. Why are so many recruits afraid to yell? Its NOT HARD. You will get your platoon ****ED royally if you don't scream. Really, just SCREAM FOR YOUR LIFE, if they hear your vocal cords vibrating, unless you've really screwed up, they'll leave you alone. But don't be the one "Scream Sanders" "....aye sir...." "I said SCREAM!" "Aye sir!" "Sanders, you're not screaming loud enough...you're about to make the platoon lose their spot in line for chow..." "....aye...sir."

"Very well, u turn left 74! Step it out! Sanders doesn't want to yell. We'll eat chow last."

Anymore questions, just ask.

Just so you can see what DIs look like...

Our Senior, SDI GySgt Gresham, purple heart, grunt, best SDI on the island. He really did us good.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8673/2135123av8.jpg111

Our Kill hat, DI SSgt Zieba, another grunt, combat veteran of Somalia, Iraq, Grenada, everywhere, pretty much the best Marine I've ever had the pleasure of meeting. (Has a black belt because he's carrying a sword)
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1567/ziebaft5.jpg

Sadly, I don't have any pics of me with my other kill hat SSgt Weems or Sgt Robinson (HE is the man who made me a Marine. He was with us EVERY DAY. I can't think of a single day, out of the entire training schedule he wasn't there. He was our heavy, and I would love to shake that mans hand and just say thanks.)

AMW
10-31-07, 11:05 PM
Wow, all i can say is wow. Really informative. I printed it off to read. Although I suppose I could switch it a bit and tell myself not to smile at any of the guys in the chowhall. I know I'm not gonna a pretty sight to look at by then...whooo.

But honestly, thank you for this insight, more informative than any book I have ever read.

HurricaneRJ
10-31-07, 11:31 PM
Nice read Pfc. Damn good reading.

Ahh 37 days left. I'm counting.

Achped
11-01-07, 09:01 AM
Wow, all i can say is wow. Really informative. I printed it off to read. Although I suppose I could switch it a bit and tell myself not to smile at any of the guys in the chowhall. I know I'm not gonna a pretty sight to look at by then...whooo.

But honestly, thank you for this insight, more informative than any book I have ever read.

To be honest, females aren't the ones that seem to have the problem, they're way more disciplined than the males when it comes to that. They can go all day without giving us a glance, but we can freaking smell you guys marching down the road (NO JOKE. Your shampoo or whatever you guys wear, we can smell that stuff haha)

marinepooly1361
11-01-07, 09:05 AM
Damn Achped....

you make it sound easy


damn...... thats all I can think to say

Achped
11-01-07, 09:11 AM
Oh, and one more thing. My rifle range coach, was probably the coolest Marine I had the pleasure of "meeting" on PI. He was a Cpl, and was very laxed and cool with us. He actually sat down next to me on pre-qual day and started asking me about where I was from and stuff. It was really awkward. He told me I could say "me" and "i" and stuff, although I didn't. (If a DI walked by and heard me say that...wow lol)

The rifle range is one of the most relaxed places on the entire island. Don't stress out, if you need to ask your coach a question, still say sir, don't get me wrong, but don't freaked out and get nervous like "This...recruit uhh...wants to....requests to know...if this recruit can adjust my...his....windage for... awind call sir? Good morning sir!"

Relax, your coaches are regular Marines, not DIs, you haven't met regular Marines yet, but regular Marines are...regular Marines. Just like me, and the other guys on leatherneck.

I saw so many recruits who didn't ask their PMI or coaches questions, because they were still in that "I'm afraid to talk to a DI phase".

I guess I got lucky because I was a squad leader and was talking to the DIs pretty much every night (AYYEEE SIIIRRRR!!! PUSH HARDER AYE SIR!!! lol)

If you go unk on the range, its because you weren't relaxed, or didn't ask the right questions. There's no reason at all you shouldn't qual.

Echo_Four_Bravo
11-01-07, 02:15 PM
Good stuff Achped. I'll just add that of course the rifle range is the most relaxed part of boot camp. They aren't going to treat you that badly when you have a loaded rifle every day. I don't even remember seeing my heavy the entire week- until I had 2-3 shots left at the 500 anyway.

killerinstinct
11-01-07, 02:35 PM
good reading there..

So tell me there PFC? I read you were a scribe. So how many firewatches did you stand?


I know we used to go thru the rotation until one of the scribes from another platoon in our series said they stopped assigning it to them and only did it every once in awhile.

Achped
11-01-07, 02:40 PM
lol, I had firewatch like 10 nights all through boot camp. I had to put up with all the crap from everyone else I gave firewatch to.
It didn't help that I was a squad leader. I could put people on firewatch, and I made the list. Everyone loved me :)

I always made sure when I stood firewatch, I had it first shift, last shift, or at like 1200-0100 and it was always with one of my buddies.

Actually, I did get screwed one night, I got into a fight with another squad leader at BWT, and our cammies were all muddy and disgusting. Well the guide made me and him stand first firewatch, which SUCKED, because we had JUST showered and had to put our nasty disgusting cammies back on. We were so ****ed. It was hot...mosquitoes...and our shift was 2 hours out of the 6 hours of sleep we had that night. Worst night of recruit training...haha.

HurricaneRJ
11-01-07, 03:19 PM
Well did you at least win the fight?

BR34
11-01-07, 05:19 PM
Nice, Achped, you actually got to eat in the chow hall at the ranges. I was there when they were building it, or remodeling it, or something...straight MREs the entire time we spent at the ranges.

And I can vouch for the feminine smell on P.I. This fat female bus driver smelled like heaven one day when we went to the range...and the women recruits can be smelled from a mile down wind!

RockSteady85
11-01-07, 05:40 PM
Awesome read, thank you for taking the time to write all of that! Definitely very well written, and gives you a bit more insight into the "little things" that I wanted to know :)

mass
11-01-07, 05:58 PM
Very descriptive Achped!
I loved it.

PatriotGirl422
11-01-07, 07:03 PM
That was probably the best and most accurate thing I have ever read about recruit training. You hit it right on the head. You are a very descriptive and good writer. I liked how you described all the smells and everything, it gave me chills just reading it!
That's sad that you didn't get to stand on the yellow footprints though!
Receiving was literally the worst few days of my life. I still believe that. I hated that feeling of confusion and not being in control. When we had to go back to the receiving building the week of graduation to fill out all that paperwork about our orders and all, I remember getting a really unsettling feeling about being there.

And all the advice that you give about just doing what you're told and sounding off is completely true, but sadly most people forget all about that when they're being yelled at. Survival mode tends tends to kick in and people forget about being smart and logical about things.

I don't think that the females are more disciplined when it comes to looking at the males. I was always looking at them to see if I recognized anyone. And everytime I saw one that I did know, I'd just kind of glane and acknowledge him. They were all stupid and for some reason though it was ok to wave at me and say "Hey Vickie!" I don't know what their DIs told them was acceptable, but they'd get mad at me for not smiling and waving at them. I knew I'd get killed if I did, but for some reason they seemed to think it was ok.
I do remember a lot of male recruits getting yelled at at the chow hall at the range though.

RuffNight2007
11-01-07, 07:08 PM
Garrison please, you spent 50% of your time at medical. I seen your ass everytime I went for med refills! =D

yellowwing
11-01-07, 07:12 PM
I only saw 4th BN out training once. They ran by our platoon singing cadence. After months of not seeing any females, it suddenly felt like the Twilight Zone with 70 women singing at the top of their lungs. :yes:

Fubar5812
11-01-07, 07:32 PM
MOTO!!!

thank you,an amazing read...very motivating.

RockSteady85
11-01-07, 07:38 PM
I only saw 4th BN out training once. They ran by our platoon singing cadence. After months of not seeing any females, it suddenly felt like the Twilight Zone with 70 women singing at the top of their lungs. :yes:

Except Rod Serling wasn't there at the end, infamously smoking his cigarette ;)

Achped
11-01-07, 09:51 PM
That was probably the best and most accurate thing I have ever read about recruit training. You hit it right on the head. You are a very descriptive and good writer. I liked how you described all the smells and everything, it gave me chills just reading it!
That's sad that you didn't get to stand on the yellow footprints though!
Receiving was literally the worst few days of my life. I still believe that. I hated that feeling of confusion and not being in control. When we had to go back to the receiving building the week of graduation to fill out all that paperwork about our orders and all, I remember getting a really unsettling feeling about being there.

And all the advice that you give about just doing what you're told and sounding off is completely true, but sadly most people forget all about that when they're being yelled at. Survival mode tends tends to kick in and people forget about being smart and logical about things.

I don't think that the females are more disciplined when it comes to looking at the males. I was always looking at them to see if I recognized anyone. And everytime I saw one that I did know, I'd just kind of glane and acknowledge him. They were all stupid and for some reason though it was ok to wave at me and say "Hey Vickie!" I don't know what their DIs told them was acceptable, but they'd get mad at me for not smiling and waving at them. I knew I'd get killed if I did, but for some reason they seemed to think it was ok.
I do remember a lot of male recruits getting yelled at at the chow hall at the range though.

That's what I mean! Male recruits are either stupid or undisciplined, you guys NEVER even payed us a glance from what I could see. But we were always oogling and drooling when you guys would walk by. Yumm....:yes:

As for the smells, do you know what I'm talking about? In the receiving building? Tell me that place wasn't a smell in its own. Just an erie feeling like, I've never smelled this before...wtf is it?


Garrison please, you spent 50% of your time at medical. I seen your ass everytime I went for med refills! =D

Hahaha, whats up man? Whats your MOS? What are you doing? Haven't talked to you since boot!

Yeah, you know me. I bought out all my DIs so I'd graduate squad leader. :bunny:

yellowwing
11-01-07, 10:03 PM
As for the smells, do you know what I'm talking about? In the receiving building? Tell me that place wasn't a smell in its own. Just an erie feeling like, I've never smelled this before...wtf is it?
A giant room full of new leather and new wool. They must treat them with some chemical reservative.

Even today when I smell new wool, I get a twinge of anxiety.

BR34
11-01-07, 10:09 PM
No, no, no...it smells like a library with freshly scuzzed floors!

AMW
11-01-07, 10:17 PM
To be honest, females aren't the ones that seem to have the problem, they're way more disciplined than the males when it comes to that. They can go all day without giving us a glance, but we can freaking smell you guys marching down the road (NO JOKE. Your shampoo or whatever you guys wear, we can smell that stuff haha)

Haha well after you're around a bunch of guys for that long of time I think ANYTHING would smell better than that. :sick: That's funny you say the female recruits are more disciplined, a Marine from my RSS just got back after 14 weeks on the island (unked on the rifle range) and she said the only time she was ever afraid for her life was on the rifle range, there were so many males to look at she was terrified she was gonna inadvertently smile at one of them, and those ever present DI's would catch her. She swore up and down they had magic mirrors they could see behind themselves with, because she could NOT figure out how they would see EVERYTHING.

LeonardLawrence
11-01-07, 10:38 PM
We bumped into the 4th Battalion at the range. Our Freaking Motivated DI one day after showers had the entire platoon moon the recruits as they walked by our squad bay. All recruits reported to Port side.

Have not been able to find the commands "Drop, Towels" in the drill manual since, so I think it was a special DI thing. Funny as hell, but to this day I am suprised there was no complaint made...maybe more disciplined and they didn't see us? :angel:

Covey_Rider
11-02-07, 02:48 AM
Male Marines noses have an acute sense towards certain things...women, food, and libo (yes, somehow libo has a smell..) I know all you Marines out there perk up every time a women walks buy with freshly sprayed perfume. I still do it, I track it...the hunt is on when it is smelled...like a shark getting the sent of blood. Anyways...yeah.

KRenee87
11-02-07, 05:28 AM
Thanks Achped! This was a very helpful. You did make me laugh when mentioning the female in the lunch room. Heck, I'm still laughing.

Achped
11-02-07, 08:15 AM
Oh, and that's another thing. Never call anything by their civilian names.

Some idiot recruit in like, our eleventh week on the island asked for permission to use the bathroom.

The DI just looked at him blankly and was like "What the hell is a bathroom? You leave my island in two weeks, you'll be a Marine on Saturday, and you're still calling it a mother f******* bathroom? Jesus Christ now I KNOW I'm wasting my life. You pieces of **** are hopeless!"

It was hysterical haha.

Depending on your DIs, 3rd phase will be really, "relaxed"? For example, once we finished our 1st week of 3rd phase our senior and heavy didn't pit or quarterdeck us....at all I don't think. The first week of third phase, BWT, we got killed lol, but the quarterdecking was pretty much over. Our heavy explained to us at this point, we're already Marines without the title. Our habits weren't going to change, getting in a recruits phase at this point didn't have an effect at all, we were all used to it. The only thing I can remember them doing to us was making us do up downs in our charlies and alphas before the inspection and family day. (THAT sucked lol)

Your kill hat though, well, he'll be a crazy insane machine until you leave the island. Once, he actually got in the pit with us, did every exercise faster and harder than all of us did, and ran around Hotel and Golf company's squad bay TWICE and sprinting speed....and THAT MOTHER FREAKER STILL WASNT EVEN OUT OF BREATH! We were in awe.

Then he ran inside, and by the time we got in the squad bay he'd showered and changed over to fresh new cammies and was STILL going nuts.

MsMaeAlabama
11-02-07, 02:17 PM
That is actually the most informative thing I have read so far. Also, a lot more helpul than my dad's "we know you'll do fine, and run" speech or my step dad's "just don't you dare quit" speech. I feel a little bit more prepared, well that's not really the word, I'm pretty sure you can't be completely prepared, but I feel a little bit less anxious about going. Thanks!

killerinstinct
11-02-07, 02:39 PM
well there werent any females on SD you just got to see planes leaving while you are stillt ehre and houses on the hills saying hey look theres outside life but you arent a part of it.

The only female i saw was our company corpsman i ended up seeing her in the fleet but even the corpsman are mean. But in the fleet she was cool

zackmerc
11-02-07, 06:46 PM
You are lucky Achped. On Graduation day, the drill instructor I admired was no where to be found. I was hoping to shake his hand one last time and take a picture with him. Looks like you had no trouble finding yours.

bgsuwoody
11-03-07, 07:38 AM
I'll ditto what ZackMerc had to say. I couldn't find my DI's, but then again after a short look around, I just wanted to get the hell out of there lol. I will get pictures up soon, and I may do something just like this with more helpful advice...actually knowing me I surely will. Nice read though Achped

Yami Chasi
11-03-07, 04:49 PM
This is great Achped, this is something that all the poolees and hopefuls on here should read. The parts with you and the females are both shocking and hilarious, I'm glad I'm going to SD so I won't have that problem, 'cause quite honestly, my backside would be grass.

Gunner614
12-06-08, 02:11 PM
Extremely informative Achped, thanks for taking the time to type all this out.
And just a side note, it's eerie how much you look like my cousin who is also a Corporal, but out of MCRDSD.

Marine84
12-06-08, 07:21 PM
Damn Gunner! You went digging didn't you? Achped is in a place with very little women, a very hard ............., and Eve on his mind right about now.

Gunner614
12-06-08, 08:30 PM
Roflmao

lagrand
12-07-08, 02:43 AM
Good read!

Quick question. In all of the 13 weeks at Parris Island, did you ever seen your Drill Instructors laugh/smile? And with that, besides during the Crucible and after you got your EGA, did you ever see the "human side" of your Drill Instructors?

introspect
12-07-08, 09:00 AM
Thanks for bumping this whoever... It was an awesome read :}

Marine84
12-07-08, 09:59 AM
Quick question. In all of the 13 weeks at Parris Island, did you ever seen your Drill Instructors laugh/smile?
Every once in a while, you might see it but, they will usually turn away from you, get their bearing back and turn around and give you hell. I'm sure they laugh their a$$e$ off in that DI Hut though. Sometimes they'll crack a joke themselves and raise hell at you because you laughed.


And with that, besides during the Crucible and after you got your EGA, did you ever see the "human side" of your Drill Instructors?

No, because they are not human! ;) You'll see it every day in them but, you won't know it until afterwards. If you're wondering whether you'll become best drinking buddies with them and find out about family history - NO! There's no time for that. They only have 13 weeks to teach you how to be a Marine.

ForeverChanged
12-07-08, 11:22 AM
We had Drill Instructor Ssgt. Perry....he was our kill hat for about 9 weeks (2nd decks kill hat broke his leg so they got Perry, and we got a brand new DI fresh out of school), but let me tell you....he would laugh and smile, only because he knew it was "MY TIME TO KILL SOME NASTIES" if you get the drift. Funniest Drill Instructor in the world. We would be getting murdered by the 3rd hat field daying and Ssgt. Perry would start a beach party, and I got to send out the invitations. I had to invite recruits standing over them and screaming "A BOMBS GOIN' OFF IN THIS ***** GET OUTSIDE"....They are gonna play those little games with you but by the end of first phase the, you don't care about the quarterdeck or the pit.

I was one of those recruits that was LOVED by the heavy and hated by our SDI, 3rd hat, and kill hat. The heavy loved me because I WASN'T a drill waiver. Also remember this, the Heavy hats usually don't hold grudges, you screw up they murder you and move on, the other DI's...well they never forget, trust me.

From day 1 until Graduation morning, my day started like this:

"LIGHTS LIGHTS LIGHTS EVERYONE ONLINE PARKER GET YOUR ASS ON THE QUARTERDECK! I usually did a pushup everytime a recruit counted off online, like this "1 Down up SPIRIT DISCIPLINE, 2 Down up SPIRIT DISCIPLINE, until SIR GOOD MORNING SIR THE COUNT ON DECK IS 64 UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS RECRUITS!!" Then as they got dressed and hygeined I got murdered, and that was the easy part of my day..everytime a recruit was getting slayed and murded I was there by his side. I even wore a sign around my neck for awhile that read "Quarterdeck me". Even on grad morning I was standing proud, in my Alphas, in the sand pit getting teased.

In all seriousness, SCREAM. Every Drill Instructor from every platoon from every company demands 3 things and only 3 things, SPEED VOLUME AND INTENSITY, give it to them 24 hours a day and you will do fine, the rest is just a mind game. I was beligerent (spelling?) and paid for it...dearly, don't be like me and you'll be fine.

Also start duck walking, scuzzing the deck didn't bother me so I spent most of all field days on the quarterdeck, which to me is 100% better than "SCUZZ AYE SIR"

Enigmatic
12-07-08, 11:36 AM
We had Drill Instructor Ssgt. Perry....he was our kill hat for about 9 weeks (2nd decks kill hat broke his leg so they got Perry, and we got a brand new DI fresh out of school), but let me tell you....he would laugh and smile, only because he knew it was "MY TIME TO KILL SOME NASTIES" if you get the drift. Funniest Drill Instructor in the world. We would be getting murdered by the 3rd hat field daying and Ssgt. Perry would start a beach party, and I got to send out the invitations. I had to invite recruits standing over them and screaming "A BOMBS GOIN' OFF IN THIS ***** GET OUTSIDE"....They are gonna play those little games with you but by the end of first phase the, you don't care about the quarterdeck or the pit.

I was one of those recruits that was LOVED by the heavy and hated by our SDI, 3rd hat, and kill hat. The heavy loved me because I WASN'T a drill waiver. Also remember this, the Heavy hats usually don't hold grudges, you screw up they murder you and move on, the other DI's...well they never forget, trust me.

From day 1 until Graduation morning, my day started like this:

"LIGHTS LIGHTS LIGHTS EVERYONE ONLINE PARKER GET YOUR ASS ON THE QUARTERDECK! I usually did a pushup everytime a recruit counted off online, like this "1 Down up SPIRIT DISCIPLINE, 2 Down up SPIRIT DISCIPLINE, until SIR GOOD MORNING SIR THE COUNT ON DECK IS 64 UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS RECRUITS!!" Then as they got dressed and hygeined I got murdered, and that was the easy part of my day..everytime a recruit was getting slayed and murded I was there by his side. I even wore a sign around my neck for awhile that read "Quarterdeck me". Even on grad morning I was standing proud, in my Alphas, in the sand pit getting teased.

In all seriousness, SCREAM. Every Drill Instructor from every platoon from every company demands 3 things and only 3 things, SPEED VOLUME AND INTENSITY, give it to them 24 hours a day and you will do fine, the rest is just a mind game. I was beligerent (spelling?) and paid for it...dearly, don't be like me and you'll be fine.

Also start duck walking, scuzzing the deck didn't bother me so I spent most of all field days on the quarterdeck, which to me is 100% better than "SCUZZ AYE SIR"


Dude this is also awesome info but...you gotta do something about that handle.....oh, and congratulations, Marine.

ForeverChanged
12-07-08, 01:08 PM
Its being taken care of, and thanks. There is no better feeling in the world than shaking your Drill Instructors hand at the Eagle Globe and Anchor ceremony

Fender104
12-07-08, 02:26 PM
How were you belligerent futurepoolie?

Books
12-07-08, 03:31 PM
Thank you so much for this, Corporal. Didn't catch it the first time around, but thanks to whoever bumped this one up.

ForeverChanged
12-07-08, 03:54 PM
It has to do alot with recruits being intimidated by the Drill Instructors, and for some reason, I think that I just wasn't "scared". I also liked to look around, laugh, talk basically be nasty, and a majority of the time they murdered me for what someone else did. There's always that "one" in every platoon that they make an example out of, I was worse than that "one". I got on the quarterdeck....just to be put on the quarterdeck. For instance when your kicking knowledge while doing weapons maintenance, if you dont scream you hold your rifle in the air and scrub it. Well someone would drop there rifle to rest there arm and I would go to the quarterdeck for it etc. Also I think they just got bored sometimes, because out of no where id be hearing my name screamed and in a dead sprint to the sand pit.

edit: And the fact that I was the "biggest" (ie fatbody) in the platoon played a MAJOR role id assume.

Olivieri
12-07-08, 09:51 PM
Just as I was getting apprehensive about going, I read this. I'm feeling about 95% better and 100% more motivated! Thank you so much!

Achped
12-08-08, 10:40 AM
Wow talk about kickin it old school.

jcope
12-29-08, 07:02 PM
That was a great read, i felt like i was there. One question, how was the pugil sticks??? i dont want to get my *** kicked any tips?

NoRemorse
12-29-08, 07:05 PM
That was a great read, i felt like i was there. One question, how was the pugil sticks??? i dont want to get my *** kicked any tips?

Simple; fill out your profile.

If you can't follow simple instructions then you will get your grape caved in under the Thunderdome; if you are lucky enough to get to those yellow footprints.

jcope
12-29-08, 08:36 PM
Sorry I thought I already did that, I now have filled it out. Wont happen again. I guess my size would help. I am 6'2 and 230lbs

NoRemorse
12-30-08, 07:48 AM
Sorry I thought I already did that, I now have filled it out. Wont happen again. I guess my size would help. I am 6'2 and 230lbs

You won't keep that 230 pounds regardless of whether it's muscle or fat. You want to excel at pugil sticks? Listen to your instructors and violently execute what they tell you when they tell you.

Most recruits I've seen curl up or cower defensively. Attack, Attack, Attack! It's the key to a lot of things; like getting into the DEP, getting shipped and getting your EGA.

jcope
12-30-08, 03:24 PM
Awsome thank you, I cant wait.

bstinnett09
12-30-08, 04:13 PM
That was a great read. Thank you Marine!

BR34
12-30-08, 05:33 PM
Sorry I thought I already did that, I now have filled it out. Wont happen again. I guess my size would help. I am 6'2 and 230lbs

Why would your size help?

NoRemorse
12-30-08, 06:08 PM
Why would your size help?

Cause he's never been broken off by someone smaller than him.

jcope
12-30-08, 08:58 PM
Cause he's never been broken off by someone smaller than him.
That sounds about right

Enigmatic
12-30-08, 09:57 PM
That'll change in boot. I'm 5' 3" and I beat the shiznit out of kids like you in boot. The DIs loved my aggresiveness but I lacked discipline because I could never stop when they blew the whistle. A few hundred hours of IT fixed that right up.

NoRemorse
12-30-08, 10:15 PM
That'll change in boot. I'm 5' 3" and I beat the shiznit out of kids like you in boot. The DIs loved my aggresiveness but I lacked discipline because I could never stop when they blew the whistle. A few hundred hours of IT fixed that right up.

If he's lucky he'll get a DI who's shorter than him. They absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE it when you look down and eyeball them.

jcope
12-31-08, 03:37 PM
Thats funny do you think that I dont have any agression??? I have my fair share of very angry agression trust me. Im sure there are plenty of guys shorter than me that could kick my A** but you wont break me ill just keep coming for more, im no wuss. Also if you call a 24yr old with a 3year old kidand a wife, I own a home and all that a kid I guess I am.

NoRemorse
12-31-08, 09:02 PM
Thats funny do you think that I dont have any agression??? I have my fair share of very angry agression trust me. Im sure there are plenty of guys shorter than me that could kick my A** but you wont break me ill just keep coming for more, im no wuss. Also if you call a 24yr old with a 3year old kidand a wife, I own a home and all that a kid I guess I am.

You could be 29 years old in boot and you're still a kid. You and your home will be subordinate to guys younger than you. Marines will look at your angry aggression and laugh because their aggression is tight and focused.

You might be a big bull but any Marine out there's a bull with horns and it's always mating season.

Get humble, earn the title and then talk sh!t. When you've got an EGA and you back it up then someone might actually care.

oifvet23
12-31-08, 09:51 PM
i love it when you see the big guys break down, the ones all pi$$ and vinegar balled up and sheeiting their pants.

Enigmatic
01-01-09, 12:12 AM
Thats funny do you think that I dont have any agression??? I have my fair share of very angry agression trust me. Im sure there are plenty of guys shorter than me that could kick my A** but you wont break me ill just keep coming for more, im no wuss. Also if you call a 24yr old with a 3year old kidand a wife, I own a home and all that a kid I guess I am.

Shiiet, I'm also 24, got a kid and a wife, own a house and all that trash. So what? I'm still a kid to someone. Direct that anger and aggression towards your goal of becoming one of us. Anything less, and we're not impressed.

jcope
01-01-09, 01:36 AM
Im sorry if I disrespected anyone I just want to be a Marine so bad that I dont want to be a KID I want to be a Marine. Im not about hey look at me because im big, i know that size dosent matter, im just saying i think i can hold my own to some respect. I didnt say that in an angry way either sorry if it came across that way. I will just show everyone when i get my EGA.

Enigmatic
01-01-09, 05:23 AM
Dude it's all good. We've all been there before. Just keep doing what you're doing, to the best of your ability, and if/when you become one of us, I will congratulate you and welcome you to our brotherhood. Marines come in all shape and sizes, all colors and from all backgrounds. Anyone can be a Marine, if they have the heart. I sincerely hope you do, and if you do, I'll be there with a drink in my hand just for you. Cause you know, it's rare to have a boot Marine who can actually drink :)

jcope
01-01-09, 09:10 AM
Thanks man I cant to be a Marine. I just need to take my asvab and go to MEPs. My recruiter hasnt called me back in like two weeks for some reason. He said I should be leaving in may to go to Parris Island.

NoRemorse
01-01-09, 11:49 AM
Shiiet, I'm also 24, got a kid and a wife, own a house and all that trash. So what? I'm still a kid to someone. Direct that anger and aggression towards your goal of becoming one of us. Anything less, and we're not impressed.

Sheeeit, I'm older than you on paper and I'm still learning about maturity. Most of that maturity came after enlisting. Being a man is one thing; being a Marine is something higher. I've got a kid on the way, a dog that's retarded and nobody in my personal life who supports my reenlistment besides my wife.

Giving your ass to the Corps, your life to your brothers, and your time to task at hand: the humps, the gear, the inspections, the training, the comraderie, the time in the field, the time in the dark; the time in the wet, hot swamp that sucks your boots in; that's what I'd be leaving my wife and child behind for.

There are so many different things that go into being a Marine that we can't describe to these kids; they'll just have to go there and make the cut... and if they don't, oh well, more boat space for you and I. :beer:

NoRemorse
01-01-09, 11:51 AM
Thanks man I cant to be a Marine. I just need to take my asvab and go to MEPs. My recruiter hasnt called me back in like two weeks for some reason. He said I should be leaving in may to go to Parris Island.

First test of how bad you want to be a Marine. Be that one high-speed kid who stays on his recruiter's tail (no homo) and keeps pushing until his ship-date.

Get all your trash and square it away. Birth Cert, ID, high school transcripts, medical records, references; every last bit of it.

jcope
01-01-09, 12:16 PM
I've got all that, it has given me more time to study for the asvab so I can get a good score.

NoRemorse
01-01-09, 12:18 PM
I've got all that, it has given me more time to study for the asvab so I can get a good score.

There's a bunch of practice versions of the ASVAB; long and short form, available for free on other sites. Bang those out if you haven't already.

commdog7
01-01-09, 03:42 PM
That was a solid description of what to expect, very accurate. I remember my path to becoming a Marine, it was the hardest thing I had ever done, but it was definately worth it.

I will never forget the midnight ride to the Island, the dead bugs splatting on the windshield.... i saw it as a sign of death to come. Processing is all a blurr, lack of sleep... no way to tell what day/time is was.... endless yelling and running.... that building was so cold! (and I'm not referring to the temp; I hate the feeling of it).

I clearly recall the time sitting in medical, waiting, thinking of what day it was. I was confused, thinking it had to be Thursday, but I was not sure. I was shocked to discover that it was only Tuesday, and I had only been on the Island for about 12 hours. Time has a way of slowing down on that Island. Most recruits didn't make it a day without wanting to quit.... I think that nearly every recruit has the thought of quitting at some point on the Island. I remember a recruit about 3 hours in request to go home, decided to play the homo- card, the female Drill Instructor on duty just tore her apart, let her know she was never going to make it off the Island.... that scared us all, since all of us wished to go home. Each hour took a day, and we had 13 long long weeks to go.

The day I arrived and the day my Drill Instructors picked us up were the worst two days on the Island. When that Drill Instructor tore into that recruit on the first day, the light at the end of my tunnel was diminished. It wasn't until 3rd phase when that light returned, and when it did, time went by so fast. The day before family day, everything just stopped... it was sad. Our time was up, it was time to reap our reward and move on. Graduation was the happiest day of my life.

The road was hard, but there is no better feeling than accomplishing the challenge and earning the title. Semper Fi Marines, and I wish all the poolees luck. I would gladly do it all again if the opportunity presented itself.

BR34
01-01-09, 06:11 PM
Thanks man I cant to be a Marine. I just need to take my asvab and go to MEPs. My recruiter hasnt called me back in like two weeks for some reason. He said I should be leaving in may to go to Parris Island.

He's probably afraid of you because you're so huge! Maybe you should show up to his office in a muscle shirt, with your mid drift hanging out, some biker shorts, and a sweat band on. Then tell him about what all your 6'2" will do to his puny little ass if he doesn't call you more!

Should work.

THAT AINT IT
01-01-09, 06:52 PM
if anybody wants to get a little taste of what an verbal thrashing from a female drill instructor sounds like go here

http://uncutvideo.aol.com/videos/a6e056f9f8e4eef7a3384361761101f6

jcope
01-02-09, 05:57 PM
He's probably afraid of you because you're so huge! Maybe you should show up to his office in a muscle shirt, with your mid drift hanging out, some biker shorts, and a sweat band on. Then tell him about what all your 6'2" will do to his puny little ass if he doesn't call you more!

Should work.Thats some funny s**t there. How long should I give him before I go get another recruiter? I dont want to disrespect him, but it feels like he dosen't give a damn about me. He also said that I should go open contract, when a Marine I know told me to go closed. What are your thoughts on that?? Thank you to everyone that is helping.

BR34
01-02-09, 06:44 PM
Thats some funny s**t there. How long should I give him before I go get another recruiter? I dont want to disrespect him, but it feels like he dosen't give a damn about me. He also said that I should go open contract, when a Marine I know told me to go closed. What are your thoughts on that?? Thank you to everyone that is helping.


I can't tell you how long you should wait. But I don't think it'll be as easy as just getting another recruiter anyway. In my opinion there is no reason anyone should ever go open contract! Pick something you like, or at least something that will pay well in the civilian world.

jcope
01-02-09, 06:53 PM
Yeah I dont want to get another recruiter I just want this one to do his job. I'm trying to get in as a avation mech. Im just gonna go to his office on monday. Thanks for the response

commdog7
01-03-09, 08:36 PM
Some of the best Marines are in open contracts. Although there are some good Marines in closed contracts, open contract Marines are those who hold service above self.... those who care about being a Marine regardless of the duty. It is an honorable thing to go open contract.

BR34
01-03-09, 08:38 PM
Some of the best Marines are in open contracts. Although there are some good Marines in closed contracts, open contract Marines are those who hold service above self.... those who care about being a Marine regardless of the duty. It is an honorable thing to go open contract.

Sorry, Sgt, but are you frikkin serious?!? There is NO reason for someone to go open contract. It doesn't mean you're more patriotic, it means...well never mind, wouldn't want to offend.

commdog7
01-03-09, 09:05 PM
Closed contract Marines can be good Marines too, but I have found that some of the best Marines are in open contracts. It is true that some open contract Marines just don't care about where they go or what they do, but the best Marines are those who are willing to serve wherever they are needed. Some closed contract Marines will not serve unless they get a certain job, but open contract Marines will serve anywhere the Marine Corps needs them. This is my opinion, you are entitled to your own.

BR34
01-03-09, 10:07 PM
You got me wrong, Sgt. I'm not saying open contract Marines are less than others. I'm not saying they can't be good Marines. I don't think the contract has anything to do with how the Marine will perform.

BUT...

I can't think of any reason at all to advise any of these poolees to go open contract...not a single one. However, I can think of a million reasons for them to get a lock onto a MOS.

commdog7
01-04-09, 06:48 PM
No one should feel forced to go into an open contract for the sake of being a "good" Marine. There are a lot of good Marines on both sides. Going open contract appeals to a certain mindset, and everyone differs in that regard. Everyone has a different reason for joining the Corps as every Marine has their reasons for going open or closed contract. There are some Marines who demand a certain job in the Corps, and if they don't get it, then they refuse to join. In my opinion, those are the greedy ones. Those are the ones who care more about themselves than the team. The most honorable Marines in my mind are the ones who just want to serve and don't mind the position the Marine Corps assigns them. From my experience, those are the best Marines, but there are very few of them out there.

And I do think that in some cases, the open/closed contracts affect performance. Not in all cases, but open contracts Marines accept that their job might not be that prestigious, and are less likely to complain when the work changes or becomes harder. Marines who go closed contract expect to be doing one job (and probably have an idea of what that job entails), and are more likely to get frustrated and complain when the work changes. Not in all cases, but in some cases- that's my two cents.

Bohon6073USMC
03-08-09, 05:28 PM
wow, reading that brought back so many memories of boot camp, sounds like my experience that i had, god i miss that though i loved boot camp, i'd have to say thoug that BWT was fun as hell... the endurance course was awesome we'd run then incoming and you'd have the adrenaline pumping just be running and take a running dive onto the ground we had a guy lose a tooth.

I remember taking a flying leap into a huge ass puddle, on of teh ones you have to crawl through it was awesome, soaked everyone even got my Heavy hat and he cracked a smile. i think it motivated him haha.

At our warriors breakfast though i got busted by my kill hat, SSgt Lincoln, Now GySgt; this marine, holy **** funny as **** and he knew it and he used it to his advantage to make us laugh then **** us up but i had a book going through bootcamp of stuff he said that was funny as ****. well it wasn't a book probably 4 pages back and front and i sat down and he sat with me and my buddies and looked at me and said "so there bohon, where's my quote book at?" of course i **** a brick and was like "This recruit has no idea sir" he said "you're a marine and it's cool, you've been dimed by your buddies i wanna see it" i said "oh, good to go SSgt" well i had mailed it home a week before because it was getting around the squad bay and i'll be damned if i was going to get caught with that during training.. (if you wanna feel pain, get caught quoting a DI) so i got all my buds together and we wrote it and handed it to him, he laughed for a good 20 minutes reading it... asking constantly "i really said that??? damn no wonder you ****s laughed so much"

Boot camp is what you make it... i made it a great time and a learning experience... oh and don't be like the 2 dumb ****s in my platoon, one had a superman tattoo on his chest and another had a EGA tat already.... they regreted it

benw2200
03-08-09, 06:54 PM
This thread is awesome. Very well-written. Brings back so many memories.. the good and the bad haha.

"Aye senior drill instructor" (You will learn to love this phrase)

Amen.. imagine 2 bulldogs that were tearing your ass up getting called into the house by their owner.. yep, pretty much. Also, the worst thing EVER was seeing our Senior leaving for the day.. he'd be walking down the highway to the rear hatch.. we'd all be screaming "good evening sir!! good evening sir!!" etc.. a recruit would always get the hatch for him while he was still a good 20 feet from it.. then when he finally left, our heavy/kill hat would come out and the fun would begin :)

1st Phase: Expect to be tortured at MCMAP haha, its all about muscle memory, you won't remember how to do the uppercut unless you're in the kneeling position (WITH your knee 2" off the deck) for 20 minutes or so.

Low block.. no you're not low enough.. you want to put your knee on the deck? Good, low block again.. I must have said take a recruit break right?? Low block. WHY ARE YOU WHISPERING TO ME, YOU DISGUSTING THING!!! SCREAM AYE SIR!!

Then you are finally given your EGA, and you are a Marine. You shake your DIs hand, which is WEIRD AS HELL lol. You feel like he's gonna crush it or something. You then will go back to the squad bay, shower, put on clean cammies (probably deserts) and go to your warriors breakfast. I was at a table in the chow hall with 2 other squad leaders, and OUR FREAKING SDI SAT WITH US. We didn't know what to say. We were just like...uhhh.... good morning SIR!" and hes like shutup with that **** Marines, you're my squad leaders, set the example PFCs!

"Aye Gunnery Sgt!"

He asked us how we liked the food and if they had anything particular he should try. So we told him to get the omelets, he came back with some, and was like "Good choice, I'm loving it."

That was probably, hands down, the coolest part of recruit training, ever. Seeing the DI's, who destroyed our minds and bodies for 12 weeks, sitting down and joking around with us like normal human beings. It was surreal. Also, definitely agree on the speed-eating part.. I was a squad leader from when we first picked up till graduation day.. and trust me, you will get creative when you eat. Like.. pudding sandwiches. You will also stay away from stuff like the fried chicken.. unless you're a lucky mofo on the big end who can take his sweet ass time. Vegtables..pasta..it all gets mixed together and scarfed down. I also ate a peanut butter and jelly and banana sandwich at almost every meal except morning chow. don't cut the banana up, just break it into 2 pieces, slap it on the bread, and jam it in our mouth. But also remember, the DI's will f**k with your chow as well. Try opening up a slippery peanut butter package with only one hand. And box chow is even worse. Ever eaten an egg and cookie sandwich with ketchup and mustard? Enjoy.