Any air wingers out there ?

[gutinstinct]

I for one served with VMFA-312,(83/85). It was a Marine fighter attack squadron. We flew F-4S Phamton II's.

[yellowwing]

Was in MCAS El Toro in 83-89. Our little shop was stuck in the as end of a hanger with a trailer nearby. I saw that hangar at the end of "Heartbreak Ridge", very cool!

A-4s were parked out front, some with old riveted patches where they were hit in Vietnam. Inside the hangar bay nearest us they were completely rebuilding a Phantom. We'd smoke on the catwalk and watch them. Took them a few months to get her to flying shape. Interesting to see.

[bucksgted]

I was with VMF-251 in '57 / '58 and VMF(AW)314 in '58 / '59. We had FJ-3's in 251 and F4D-1's in 314. I worked on the fire control systems.

In my younger days when I was bullet proof and gonna live forever, I used these lighters like there was no tomorrow. What kind of "tokens" do you have these days.

[grampsdw251]

Hi everybody!! Just stumbled into leatherneck.com by accident--today. Been enjoying the heck out of reading some posts to get the feel of this place.
Didn't intend on making a post yet(never fooled with a forum, and pretty novice on the PC), but when I ran across bucksgtsd's post I almost peed my bdu's.
I was in VMFA-251(hence my user name)in '77-'79.
I could say that bucksgted was in MY squadron the year I was born. Sorry Ed.
I started out in H&MS-31 as a mechanic, then to VMFA-312 as ground support equipment tech.,then toVMFA-251 flight line/gse. Both these outfits flew F-4J's.
Tokens? Just so happens my best buddy and I bought big Zippo's and had the names of each base we'd been to
engraved on them. However, mine is somewhere in Olongopo city, Phillipines. That's another story.
Also surprising is the fact that I grew up in UC,Tn., and live outside of town there now.
Believe it or not but all my friends & family call me---Ed.
Howzzat for a first post? Think I'm gonna like it here.
Semper Fi !!!

[yellowwing]

Welcome aboard! Yes, we got a big thing going on. Older Marines, Active Duty Marines, Marine Family Members, and a whole heap of youngsters in the Recruiting Pool.

Semper Fi :usmc:

[grampsdw251]

Hey gutinstinct, I didn't intentionally ignore ya earlier, I just got blindsided when I saw bucksgted's post.
What are the chances--- I found this site by accident, don't
know a thing about forums,run across a Marine brother who served in the same squdron 20 years earlier,collected the same tokens,lives in the same town and has the same first name?? Well, I got excited.
It seems I was also in YOUR squadron 6 or 7 years before
you. That's where I first learned to cram the hangar full of
warbirds.
Was312 still at beaufort when you were in? When I was there Beaufort had 4 VMFA squadrons-312, 333, 251,and 451. For some reason 451 seemed to stay on the boat more than home.
An old buddy from 251 told me a few years ago that 251
went to the F-16 or F-18, do you know?
Another funny thing--while you were playing with 20 million dollar planes, I was truckdriving, hauling fresh meat from my hometown in Union City,Tn to (of all places to take a truck)--New York City!!
The only way I've ever seen the City is from the truck, I was there weekly with 6 to10 stops in all the burroughs.
I'll shut up, but to answer your question,YEAH there is some wingdingers out there! Semper Fi, Bro.

[Marine84]

IYAOYAS!

H&MS11 Ordnance (85-86 & 87-88)

[killerinstinct]

Vmfa(aw)-242/121

[HardJedi]

all right, enough lounging around goofing off. i KNOW thats all wingers ever do!:banana: :flag:

[gutinstinct]

Its nice to hear from a fomer checkerboarder like you. Just to let you no VMFA-333 & VMFA-451 are no longer active. They were disbanded as per a former Marine I served with in VMFA-312 who has been...

[GUNNY MAX]

Powerline Mechanic (Powerplants with the Phantoms)
VMFA-531 Gray Ghosts
VMFA-314 Black Knights (once a Knight is never enough Ed)
VMFAT-101 Sharp Shooters

[grampsdw251]

Gosh, gutinstinct,your'e stirrin' up my old memory.You are right about 122. I think they had just replaced 333 about 8 months before I got out. That was about the same time 251
got our first F-4S. I left in Aug.'79 and we only had the one.
P.S. Did you know that some of 312's and 251's birds
were used in the movie 'Top Gun'? 'nother story in itself.

[grampsdw251]

oh yeah, guess I;m getting old, so help me out. What's
IYAOYAS all about?
And yes Hardjedi,we do goof off a little. You can do that when You perform miracles--like keeping old shot up
Phantoms in the wind.Hydraulics be damned.
T'was said "We the willing, led by the unknowing,
are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.
We have done so much with so little for so long
We can now do anything with nothing."
Semper Fi

[vmfn513]

I guess that includes me. I was in VMF(n)533 on Okinawa and in China in 1945. We went to Korea in 1950 in VMF(N)513. Was at MCATS in Quantico in '52' and taught for awhile . Ordnance and Fire Control. Came down to Edenton, NC . Had a short spot on the pistol range, Instructor, and then to VMF225.We had AD5Ns, good for flight-pay. Went back to Japan for another tour and then to the states and OUT. Went to school and then to AT&T . Retired in 1987 and returned here to Edenton. Have one Zippo Lighter (type)
case a cigarette case ,both made in Japan( VMF(n)513). Still have have it and no use for it now. Too old for the flying anymore, TOO creaky.
Pictures of the F4U-5N and others(F7F-3N) and not so good shots of the AD.
SEMPER FI

[gutinstinct]

Hey devildogs no offense on what am going to say but I remember the drunken AO's (avaition ordanance) would come into the barracks at 0500 hrs screaming "AO AO AO AO". Other than that. I have no idea. Marine84 can you please inform us on what it means ? Thanks. * Dam am getting old *

[killerinstinct]

Powerline Mechanic (Powerplants with the Phantoms)
VMFA-531 Gray Ghosts
VMFA-314 Black Knights (once a Knight is never enough Ed)
VMFAT-101 Sharp Shooters

hey gunny, were you with 101 when SgtMaj Watkins was there? He was my first command SgtMaj at 242. He's a good guy made me laugh all the time talkign with him.

[grampsdw251]

okay, okay, yeah I'm rusty. Tell me if I'm right-
If You Ain't Ordinance You Ain't S***.
Maybe I'm coming around. They still call you guys BB
stackers?

[killerinstinct]

okay, okay, yeah I'm rusty. Tell me if I'm right-
If You Ain't Ordinance You Ain't S***.
Maybe I'm coming around. They still call you guys BB
stackers?

yup thats all still true BB stackers still sticks and we still celebrate ordnance birthday.:beer:

[GUNNY MAX]

SgtMaj Jeff Study was the SgtMaj when I left for Quantico in 1997. SgtMaj Watkins sure rings a bell though.

[greensideout]

A little recip representation---lol

VMO-6
VMO-2
HMM-362
HMH-462

Back when engines had pistons. :D

[vmf232]

was with vmf-232 60-63 f8u 1e

[semperfi170]

VMA(AW)-121 CHERRY POINT A-6A
VMA(AW)-225 DANANG A-6A
VMA(AW)-242 DANANG A-6A
VMFA-115 IWAKUNI F-4B THEN TRANSITION TO F-4J
MARTD JACKSONSONVILLE A4-F


There were at least 3 squadrons of F-18s at MCAS El Toro in 1985. I believe at that time VMFA-115 may still have been at Andrews AFB as a reserve unit.


Swing with the wing!!! But always a basic rifleman!:usmc:

[bucksgted]

Wow, the Wingers really came out of the wood work!! ROTFLMAO

[grampsdw251]

If my memory serves me, I think gutinstinct got this stirred
up.
I can relate to what he said yesterday about the BB stackers
floating in at o?oo hours yelling AO AO AO... I guess it comes with the job. It is annoying, but it won't kill ya.
What really slams yer sphincter shut is when a bunch just like 'em is loading live ordnance at about the same
hour, starts running over each other in 5 different directions yellin' O S***O S***O S***!!!
The old skivvies will never be the same.

[gutinstinct]

You just brought back a memory of mine by stating that am stirring S**t up. My old Shop NCOIC used to say it more like this. " L/CPL your always stirring up some s**t. I want you to square yourself away. Buy this I want you to trim your mustache, get a haircut, and GOD*** it lose some weight. " This was his favorate speach to me every time i screwed up. Thanks.

[maspotente2]

I was stationed at El Toro (73-74) & (76-77) with MWSG-37 H-MS-37. I was located at the end of the hanger with the trailer at the end. This was the Data Processing Center. Oh what memories. I also saw the hanger at the end of the movie. It brought back a lot of memories. Too bad that the base was closed down. It was one of the best.

[crate78]

At various times in between schools and other activities:

VMF (n) 531, 1954-55
VMA 533, 1956-57
VMF 314, 1958-59 (Hi Ed)
VMF 542, 1959
H&MS 24 1960-61
MABS 24 1962-63
H&MS 31 1963

crate

[Tom Hansen]

VMA-231
10/79 to 2/84

[William W Pence]

Macs-9 and Mass-3 1961-1964..Somebody had to direct the flyboys where to go..Semper Fi

[killerinstinct]

SgtMaj Jeff Study was the SgtMaj when I left for Quantico in 1997. SgtMaj Watkins sure rings a bell though.

he went there in 01 adn retired in 03 i believe. He was at 242 before

[killerinstinct]

was with vmf-232 60-63 f8u 1e

red devils huh? damn powerline shop. they replaced us and when their advance party came they spray painted up inside our rear wheel well on all our birds with this:http://www.3maw.usmc.mil/mag11/images/vmfa232.gif

[Buckeye]

MCAS Newriver MAG-29/MALS-29 Wolverines ....

[SoCalSam]

MCRD Parris Island - PLT 3095, 1977
NAS Millington - MATSG-90, MATSS-902, 1977-78
MCAS El Toro - H&MS-13, 1978, 1980-81
MCAS Tustin - Training 1978
MCAS Iwakuni - H&MS-12/VMA-211/VMGR-352, 1979-80
NAS Cubi Point - VMA-211, 1980

MOSs: AN/APX-64 & AN/APX-72 IFF IMA Tech W/C 610, Mini & Micro Certified W/C 690

[bucksgted]

Wingers stirring up sheite!! Aint if fun?

How's this for some old pictures? The first two are from Rosy Roads, circa, Jan / Feb 1958 and the next one is a "for real" hot pad scramble, circa, Sept / Oct 1958 in Ping Tung, Taiwan; chasing the bad guys away!!

[grampsdw251]

Howdy Crate78, Just wondering, where was H&MS-31
in '63? I was assigned to that outfit in '75 across the bay
from P.I.

[grampsdw251]

bucksgted, Thanx for the pix. It appears the ol' homestead
and wardrobe may use a little work, but the transportation
is a real chick magnet !!

[crate78]

H&MS-31 was at MCAS Beaufort.

That's the outfit I was in when I got out.

crate

[gutinstinct]

When I surfed onto this site I didn't see really anything on the airwing. I thought I was the only AIRWINGER. But, dam !!!!!!!! this thread is growing pretty fast. I don't feel that alone anymore. SEMPER FI Marines.

[bucksgted]

bucksgted, Thanx for the pix. It appears the ol' homestead
and wardrobe may use a little work, but the transportation
is a real chick magnet !!
When we were at Rosy Roads, our CO said he didn't care what we wore as long as we had on boots and a cover; hence, the cut off utes. The "homestead" was as good as we could make it. We were on the back side of the island near Fajardo (back gate) and close to the CB's. I was a whopping 20 year old Corporal of Marines then. Merit promo to Sergeant on 6/01/58 just prior to joining the fun sheite in da Far East.

[Marine84]

When I surfed onto this site I didn't see really anything on the airwing. I thought I was the only AIRWINGER. But, dam !!!!!!!! this thread is growing pretty fast. I don't feel that alone anymore. SEMPER FI Marines.

We're EVERYWHERE, we're EVERYWHERE! :banana:

[bucksgted]

H&MS-31 was at MCAS Beaufort.

That's the outfit I was in when I got out.

crate
Gramps and Crate, MAG-31 was at Opa Locka in '56 / '57 / '58. VMF-251 was attached to MAG-31. Our base CO, Col. Green, got his wings as a Private. Had to get promoted to PFC to stay off mess duty so he could fly during the early days of WW II. How's that for some old stuff. Seems I can't remember what I had for breakfast, but this old stuff is coming back.

Speaking of old stuff and seeing as how we have all these darn Ordies in here, did ya know that the early AQ (fire control) folks came from the bomb squads? When I got to Miami, my shop NCOIC was Tech Sgt Blodgett. Cut his teeth hanging ordinance on AD's

[gutinstinct]

Hey Bucksgted. How you doing ? Question. On the pictures you posted. The picture to the far right. That Marine under the wing. Whats he handling there ? Is it a centerline, some type of ORD, maybe a bagage tank ?

[bucksgted]

Hey Bucksgted. How you doing ? Question. On the pictures you posted. The picture to the far right. That Marine under the wing. Whats he handling there ? Is it a centerline, some type of ORD, maybe a bagage tank ?
That is a "starting" pod. It took a jet engine to start the jet engine. The starting pod was started by battery (it really was/is a jet engine and even burned JP4), a large air duct was connected to the A/C, the air from the pod turned the J59 engine and - walla - the darn thing would then start. Any time the F4D was going to land away from "home" it had to carry it's own pod, unless there was one at the receiving base. The rack that you see in that picture, dead center of the plane, is where the pod mounted. That is not a bomb rack. The F4D carried two rocket pods, two Sidewinder missles and ammo for it's usless cannons. (Here I go again, folks asking what time it is and I end up telling them how a clock works. Sorry for the disertation. LMAO)

[Achped]

You go right ahead Sgt. Alot of Marines on here enjoy learning everything they can. I never knew any of that and its quite interesting that they would design such a....complicated system.

[gutinstinct]

It sounds like something we had for our F4s. If my memory is correct it was called a 105 or as we used to call it a " hoofer". How many Marines remember that piece of GSE ? It seemed like the hoofer (when cranking up) was louder than the Phantom twin J79 engines. Maybe thats way I lost some of my hearing.:D

[killerinstinct]

It sounds like something we had for our F4s. If my memory is correct it was called a 105 or as we used to call it a " hoofer". How many Marines remember that piece of GSE ? It seemed like the hoofer (when cranking up) was louder than the Phantom twin J79 engines. Maybe thats way I lost some of my hearing.:D

thats what i think the f-16's use because when we were on an airforce base and needed to do some checks they didnt have any nc-10's they used the huffers which was retarded imo too much.

But you guys would be glad to know that the f-18's are just probably some of the easiest planes to maintain. I have heard stories and i know for example, harriers you have to take the whole wing of to perform maintenace on the gun. and i think mcdonald douglasreally did well on the f-18 as far as easy access..

[GUNNY MAX]

We had to use a huffer or wells unit along with external power to start our F4-N's. It is much easier to fire up a Hornet, exept for having to pump up the APU accumulator. Especially no fun with a hangover.:sick:
Yes, the Hornet is much more maintainer friendly.

I actually had the oportunity to help pull an engine out of a Harrier during a WTI det. Given the choice between a Harrier and Phantom (which wasn't much of a cake walk either) I'd choose the Phantom. Plus, going to high power is a rush. (especially if you have a hard light or compressor stall)

[crate78]

Ed,
You didn't happen to be on the hot pad at PingTung the night we had a hot scramble and the starting pod wouldn't start, did you?

We had to send a jeep back to the flight line for a different pod before we could launch the planes. Next morning in the line shack, Col. Johnson said, "Well, men, we learned something last night, didn't we?" That's all he said, but it spoke volumns.

Speaking of old timers, I once worked for a mustang Captain, Bob Troupe. He'd been an enlisted fighter pilot in WWII. He still had a patch on his flight jacket that said, "Flying Peons".

The good old days.

crate

[killerinstinct]

you know whats wierd from workign on f-18's i can be about a mile away and you are like oh thats the apu, oh they are starting the engine 1 .. There goes the engine 2. There goes the apu shutting off. Oh they are cross bleeding to start the other engine.

Amazing how much you can tell whats goign on just from sounds.


But getting off the subject i did enjoy all the jokes and pranks youd play on the boots fresh in on the fleet. I didnt fall for most of them but and i'll admit this i did fall for the " hey we need a gallon of pneumatic fluid go ask avionics if they have some.. and they didnt have any and sent me to every other shop till i got to airframes adn the top goes. its air.. GOD i felt like an ass.

[crate78]

I also just recalled on the above incident with the no-start starting pod that when we did get the planes launched, in the confusion one was launched with the ground locks in the landing gear and the pilot (I forget who he was) couldn't pull the wheels up. He had to fly around with his wheels down while we scrambled a third plane.

crate

[GUNNY MAX]

Light bulb repair kits and the keys to the airplane were always good ones to send boots running for.

[killerinstinct]

I also just recalled on the above incident with the no-start starting pod that when we did get the planes launched, in the confusion one was launched with the ground locks in the landing gear and the pilot (I forget who he was) couldn't pull the wheels up. He had to fly around with his wheels down while we scrambled a third plane.

crate

one of the funniest things ive seen. is out at the cala another squadron forgot to pull the detent wrench and when it came back from its mission the aim-9 was smoking and needless to say we didnt stay near the bird too long.

[bucksgted]

Ed,
You didn't happen to be on the hot pad at PingTung the night we had a hot scramble and the starting pod wouldn't start, did you?

We had to send a jeep back to the flight line for a different pod before we could launch the planes. Next morning in the line shack, Col. Johnson said, "Well, men, we learned something last night, didn't we?" That's all he said, but it spoke volumns.

Speaking of old timers, I once worked for a mustang Captain, Bob Troupe. He'd been an enlisted fighter pilot in WWII. He still had a patch on his flight jacket that said, "Flying Peons".

The good old days.

crate
Goose, you gotta keep me honest here cause the memory aint so good - - but - - I think I recall after that incident, the starting pods ran (idiling) the whole time on the hot pad. They were hot fueled, but we never had a repeat of the afore mentioned screw up!

Folks, in case you haven't figured it out yet, Chase, aka Goose, was a S/Sgt in our shop in Ping Tung. We had the finest Avionics shop in The Corps. The APG-51A fire control system had a max 200 mile search capability and we got confirmed pickups at 200 miles on a regular basis. Ya also have to keep in mind that in that time frame, ALL of the electronics was electron tubes- - - ya know the glass stuff that breaks iffin it takes too much of a jolt.

Crap, the older I get, the better we were! Go figure!!LMAO

[bucksgted]

I also just recalled on the above incident with the no-start starting pod that when we did get the planes launched, in the confusion one was launched with the ground locks in the landing gear and the pilot (I forget who he was) couldn't pull the wheels up. He had to fly around with his wheels down while we scrambled a third plane.

crate
That reminds me of the time after things settled down and we went back in "training mode", we had a young, boot pilot that over pressurized his cockpit shortly after take off, blew his canopy and Col Johnson refused to let him drop his wing tanks for landing. Poor SOB had to fly around using his after burner to burn enough fuel to land. Some lessons, I suppose stay with ya for a while. LOL

[SgtHopperUSMC]

MWSS 274 "Bay D" 1995

[crate78]

Ed,
You're right both about leaving the starting pods idling and the pilot blowing his canopy. With no canopy and the afterburner on, that had to be one noisy ride.

crate

[sams32463]

oh yeah, guess I;m getting old, so help me out. What's
IYAOYAS all about?
And yes Hardjedi,we do goof off a little. You can do that when You perform miracles--like keeping old shot up
Phantoms in the wind.Hydraulics be damned.
T'was said "We the willing, led by the unknowing,
are doing the impossible for the ungrateful.
We have done so much with so little for so long
We can now do anything with nothing."
Semper Fi
:flag:Not to sure how Phantoms compared with the NIGHTMARES I worked on AV8A Better known as the Harrier. And sure we may screw-off when we can because some days you find yourself working 18-20 hrs just to get your planes in the air. And somedays everything goes right for the first time in months. So you bet we'll going to screw-off a little. LOL

[bucksgted]

Folks, on my post # 53, up the page a little, I said that the F4D-1 fire control system was the APG-51A - - that was on the FJ's - - the F4D-1 had the APQ-51A system. Biiiiigggg difference. The APG-51A was really nothing more than an electrical gun sight that the pilot had to look thru. He had to be realllly close to his target cause all he had was 20mm's and rockets. Sorry for the screw up.

[garryh123]

VMFAT-101, F-4N,J,S. PlaneCaptain 1982-85. MCAS-Yuma

[Marine84]

I always wished I could fly an F18 (I ain't gonna lie - I would probably barf all over the place but, the rush must be a b!tch) - the closest I ever got to one was to walk underneath it.

I saw something on TV earlier today about an Air Force F22 (I think that's what it is) - this thing is so awesome! Said it can be about 20 miles away from the enemy in the air and shoot and kill them BEFORE they even pick you up on radar. 1000 mph or some such noise. Can ya'll IMAGINE?

[bucksgted]

I always wished I could fly an F18 (I ain't gonna lie - I would probably barf all over the place but, the rush must be a b!tch) - the closest I ever got to one was to walk underneath it.

I saw something on TV earlier today about an Air Force F22 (I think that's what it is) - this thing is so awesome! Said it can be about 20 miles away from the enemy in the air and shoot and kill them BEFORE they even pick you up on radar. 1000 mph or some such noise. Can ya'll IMAGINE?
I can relate to how you feel cause I felt it when I was in The Corps and still ever time I see pics of fast moving aircraft, my ole heart really goes pitty-pat!!

[maspotente2]

H&MS-31 back in 75-76...re-upped to go back to El Toro and MWSG-37, H&MS-37.

[Tegan]

Mals-39 06-07
Just Checked Into Hmla-367 Scarface

[grampsdw251]

H&MS-31 back in 75-76...re-upped to go back to El Toro and MWSG-37, H&MS-37.

I hit H&MS-31 in late '76

[LCPLE3]

I always wished I could fly an F18 (I ain't gonna lie - I would probably barf all over the place but, the rush must be a b!tch) - the closest I ever got to one was to walk underneath it.

I saw something on TV earlier today about an Air Force F22 (I think that's what it is) - this thing is so awesome! Said it can be about 20 miles away from the enemy in the air and shoot and kill them BEFORE they even pick you up on radar. 1000 mph or some such noise. Can ya'll IMAGINE?

You should take flying lessons on a Cessna before you get into a jet!:D

I just took one a week ago and it was a blast!

I served with the 1st Marine Air Wing at Iwakuni Japan from 1978-79. My unit was MWSG-17.

[nyheyman]

Proud to say;Yes I am!!!! This site is great!!! Glad to have a buddy of mine tell me about it. I was part of VMFA-312 Metal Shop based at MCAS Beaufort 1982 to 1987.
SWING WITH THE WING!!!

[Marine84]

Welcome Aboard! Throw your gear anywhere and grab a beer.

Was with H&MS15 Ordnance in Iwakuni in 86

[gutinstinct]

Its Urf. About time you checked us out at this site. Theres a bunch of air wingers around. I E-mailed charlie (powerplants) & craig about the site. I will give you a call by next week end. Hows beautiful Beaufort by the sea holding up ? Take care.

[grampsdw251]

Proud to say;Yes I am!!!! This site is great!!! Glad to have a buddy of mine tell me about it. I was part of VMFA-312 Metal Shop based at MCAS Beaufort 1982 to 1987.
SWING WITH THE WING!!!

I was with 312 in sunny Beaufort in late'76 til summer of '77, then went to 251 for a WesPac tour. I played GSE. Greatest Show on Earth!

[Sgt Leprechaun]

VMFA-312, Intel Shop! 1985-1989. Another "Fightin Checkerboard" checking in here!

Urf, I saw you started this, good to see you!

Those who were with '312 the same time I was will well remember my old boss..."The good Gunnery Sergeant Beeler"

Oh, and my wife, whose not on the boards, served with MAG-31, HAMS-31, and VMFA-122 from 86-91

[jetdoc]

I for one served with VMFA-312,(83/85). It was a Marine fighter attack squadron. We flew F-4S Phamton II's.

Hey you Winger,

HMM264, TME, (OJT/Training). CH-46, CH-53, Cobra's.
VMFP-3, RF4-B's
VMFA-321, F4's

USairways, 737, 727, 757, etc.
and finally and hopefully lastly, Southwest Airlines since 1996, 737's.

[jetdoc]

I was with 312 in sunny Beaufort in late'76 til summer of '77, then went to 251 for a WesPac tour. I played GSE. Greatest Show on Earth!

GSE was known as, Greasy Slimy Equipment, lol.

[gutinstinct]

Hey Jason ! Whats it been? 22 Years ? How you doing ? Has Life Been good to you ? Have you Heard from Your old boss the Gunny ? The funny thing is i just finshed E-mailing my old boss Gunny Logan. I haven"t spoken to him in 22 years. I went to sign up on another Marine Corps site ********************* and there he was. The funny thing is that he just retired after 31 years in the Corps as a LTcol. It just shocked the s**t out of me. Am very proud of him.

[gutinstinct]

Come to think about it I hope your the right Jason am thinking about. If not hello anyway. LOL

[davy42055]

VMFA-122 HYD SHOP 1966-1968 DANANG F-4's

VMFA-251 HYD SHOP 1968-1969 BEAUFORT SC. F-4's

[sgtjimh]

Air wing forever:: H&ms 37, El Toro, VMFA 334, Westpac, Vmgr 352 El Toro, MABS 36 Futenma also flew with HMM 164 and HML 367 at the same time. VMAT 203 and VMA 542 at cherry point. He** of a ride for 9 years.

[Gyrene251]

Hey Gramps - Frenchy here from WC 220 was in 251 from 76-79. Just emailed you.

:usmc:

[8th&I Marine]

My brother in law in with the Purple foxes I think its HMM-262 he is a gunny there doing something fun.

Cantrell:flag:

[jgorosco]

MALS 24 ORDNANCE Here!!!

IYAOYAS and IYAOYCSOD....I made that last part up at Boss's night at the E-Club with awhole lot of groundpounders there. We got into a big wrestling (fight) match in front of the E-Club after that. MPs everywhere didn't know who to pop so they just hung back and watched till we got tired and our OICs sent us on our way.

[gutinstinct]

Well devildogs it took me approx 2 weeks to figure out on what killerinstinct meant by IYAOYAS. Now I see another one pertaining to the AO's. Can you please give an old man a break and post what it means. It drives me crazy when I can't remember,LOL.

[jgorosco]

I could tell you but I might have to kill you!!! If You Ain't Ordnance You Ain't Sh*t!!

[gutinstinct]

jgorosco; I figured out the IYAOYAS. It's IYAOYCSOD thats gonna drive me crazy.

[jgorosco]

Ok this may cause another battle royal but f' it....If you Ain't Ordnace You Ain't Sh*t and If You Ain't Ordnance You Can Suck Our D**k

[gutinstinct]

LMAO. After checking your profile. I see a ten year gap between when I got out and when you went in. Am glad to see that you are keeping up that good old AO mentality. Give me a break. I remember everytime you guys couldn't handle your work load the other shops had to come to your rescue. Encluding the Tool Room. This is with all do respect. :banana:

[jgorosco]

The only time we needed help was when we couldn't make it to our bunks after our all night drinking adventures. And to all the other Ordies....How about an Ordnance Kiss? I will start it

[killerinstinct]

The only time we needed help was when we couldn't make it to our bunks after our all night drinking adventures. And to all the other Ordies....How about an Ordnance Kiss? I will start it


HAHA there is a thread about this somewhere. Me and Kim were talkign about it and thankfully I wasnt the lowest on the totem pole in the shop.

[gutinstinct]

A ordnance kiss ? Low man on the totem pole ? Am afraid to ask.

[jgorosco]

You might enjoy it gutinstinct!! You can be low man since you are asking

[lovdog]

The best thing about being in the Wing was the animosity it created between the the wingers & the grunts - and man I loved every minute of it!! Its been a long time but I do recall going thru jungle training at Pendleton for about a month before we were shipped overseas. Out of the company there were only a handful of wingers. I remember this Staff Sgt. (troop handler) that went ballistic when I showed up with unbloused trousers & steel toed low cut boots that we normally wore - they were Marine Corps legal then - and fairly comfortable too! When I pulled up my trousers & he saw the white socks, I thought the guy would have a stroke!! - he lost the argument in the end! The next day I put on boots - I just did it to jerk his chain!
Since I was an "old man" of 19 and in the wing - they made me an instructor on many of the excercises that we had. They mentioned to me that since I was a winger that I probably wouldn't need much of this training anyway and they needed the "help" since they were short of training personnel at the time.
Remember the "digging' out a claymore mine? And the mousetrap underneath? As many times as I showed most of them (grunts) how to do it - about 50% had the cap go off! I used to tell them - "well, you just blew both of us up" - now, do it again til you get it right! I won't have to do this cause I'm a winger - but you might! What a great job I had!!
So then comes the 10 mile forced march - up & down the sand hills. I was in the 3rd squad, 3rd platoon. So this guy named Johnny Logan ( a grunt) - and I became pretty good friends - he was in front of me in the squad. The column was all stretched out for a long way come the third mile. So, I told Logan - "enough of this crap - c'mon Johnny - lets get going"! At each hill that we went up - sure enough - there sat a couple of grunts all tired out!
I told them "whats the matter grunts, can't you hack it"?? Well, that just p_ssed them off royally and they'd start running to keep ahead of us. Every hill we started gaining ground. Make a long story short, by the end of the march the troop handler turned around and guess who was right behind him? Yep, me & Logan!!
The troop handler went nuts when he found out we were from the 3rd platoon! He moved the whole 3rd platoon to the front for the rest of the exercises - that was great - no more running to keep up!!
So, when we get to Danang - even though your a winger - you still have to pull "other duty" every 6 months or so- I chose guard duty - back with my old buddies - yep - the grunts! So, they make me corporal of the guard - thats okay, but the only problem at night - I had more of a fear of getting shot by my own guys than I did the "Dogpatch Bunch"!! What a group!!
I used to tell them "if its a rocket - get inside the bunker, if someone is shooting at you - get behind the bunker!! I guess it worked, didn't lose anyone on my watch. As long as you turned "Chicken Man" on at 2:30 in the morning & opened up the channels - they seemed to apease them the rest of the night!! Man - ya gotta love the grunts!! They sure made life in the Corps interesting - and fun!!
Lovdog, SF

[Gyrene251]

Fellow Tbolters from VMFA-251 Westpac tour in 1977 - remember the Philippines....

http://www.vmfa251.org/images/cubi.jpg

[jetdoc]

Yea we used a "huffer", (sp?) when I was in. I think the "starting pod" was a precursor to the "huffer". You're right when you say it was as loud as the J79.


It sounds like something we had for our F4s. If my memory is correct it was called a 105 or as we used to call it a " hoofer". How many Marines remember that piece of GSE ? It seemed like the hoofer (when cranking up) was louder than the Phantom twin J79 engines. Maybe thats way I lost some of my hearing.:D

[jetdoc]

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n234/jetdoc/midway.jpg

[jetdoc]

Can't tell you how many times I've been up there taking off those panels and using freaken speed handles, lol.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/1988/Air_Force/DF-ST-88-08999.JPG

[Gyrene251]

Yeah, me too. Hated to have to go into the hell hole to remove a stab pack - especially on a hot summer day on the flight line at Beaufort - oh joy!

[jetdoc]

This was taken shortly after I left P-3, I loved the "sneaky Pete" tail. We were constantly changing the tail.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/1983/Navy/DN-ST-83-04055.JPG

[jetdoc]

Landing on the USS DWIGHT D. EISENHOWER (CVN 69), in 1983.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/1987/Navy/DN-SC-87-06299.JPG

[jetdoc]

Anyway, I'm posting too many pics I suppose, on the DODmedia website there are more if anyone is interested.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/DVIC_View/Public_Still_Search.cfm

[airframesguru]

Dang I miss the wing. The smell of the chow hall and the JP in the moring was great.

Gone are the days of SWAP's, #2 Apexes, Easy outs (some people just could not get a screw out), FOD walks, and ATAF's.

:cry:

[jetdoc]

Anyway, I'm posting too many pics I suppose, on the DODmedia website there are more if anyone is interested.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/DVIC_View/Public_Still_Search.cfm

Don't know why the link didn't work, it was just some more RF-4 pics of course, :D

Let me help with more, hehe.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/1992/Navy/DN-SC-92-00913.JPG

[jetdoc]

Did this more than once.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/1983/Navy/DN-ST-83-04054.JPG

[gutinstinct]

Awsome pictures Jetdoc. I no I have some of 312. I also have some of the SR71 or the HUBU/Black bird. I got those pictures on West Pac 84. I will try to dig them up and post them. As far as any body turning a speed handle. I hated opening door #22, which was located under the bird. How many Hyd mec's remember that door. I also dealt with my fair shares of pulling stab pacs. We didn't have a small enough Marine to get into the hell hole. We had to turn it this way and that way, and hopefully the dam thing would come out. Most of the time it was a pain in the ass. Greate memories Jetdoc, thanks.

[jetdoc]

Ehh Tony, I have tons of pics of P3 too but those pics I just did a search and posted them. That Dodmedia link has lots of pics too, just type in your sqd and they are there.

[gutinstinct]

Thanks Jetdoc, I will check it out.

[BikerCrewChief]

A roll of "Flight Line", "Skid Tube pressurizer'

[BikerCrewChief]

Mals-39 06-07
Just Checked Into Hmla-367 Scarface

I was in HML-367 83-86.

[gutinstinct]

I was just looking at one of the pictures that Jetdoc posted. I noticed that the Marines on the birds turtle-back or shell(I forgot the name of the panel) were barefoot. I don't remember ever going barefoot while working ontop of the bird. In fact we weren't even allowed in the hanger or on the flightline without our steel tips. I guess that each squadron sets its own policy.

[Top Caplinger]

HMM-265 (82-84)
HMX-1 (87-91)
1stMAW Headquarters (97-05)

... but I was admin

[BobTate]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/bobtate/misc/flightjacketfront-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v670/bobtate/misc/flightjacketrear-1.jpg

[jetdoc]

Tony, yea we called it the turtle back and I also saw the socks and didn't know what to think about that. I can tell you we never wore socks up there, that would be, you know, kinda slipppery?

[Gyrene251]

No socks for us either - steel tipped shoes for us. Below is one way we got
our spare parts while at MCAS Iwakuni!

http://www.vmfa251.org/images/supply.jpg

[tripledog]

VM0-6
vmo-2
HMM-362
HMM-462

[Gyrene251]

Gut buster of the day...enjoy!

News Anchor Dan Rather, NPR Reporter Cokie Roberts and a U.S. Marine were hiking through the desert one day when they were captured by Iraqis. They were tied up, led to the village and brought before the leader.

The leader said, "I am familiar with your western custom of granting the condemned a last wish. Before we kill and dismember you, do you have any last requests?"

Dan Rather said, "Well, I'm a Texan; so I'd like one last bowl full of hot, spicy chili." The leader nodded to an underling who left and returned with the chili. Rather ate it all and said, "Now I can die content."

Cokie Roberts said, "I'm a reporter to the end. I want to take out my tape recorder and describe the scene here and what's about to happen. Maybe someday someone will hear it and know that I was on the job till the end." The leader directed an aide to hand over the tape recorder and Roberts dictated some comments. She then said, "Now I can die happy."

The leader turned and said, "And now, Mr. U.S. Marine, what is your final wish?"

"Kick me in the ass," said the Marine.

"What?" asked the leader. "Will you mock us in your last hour?"

"No, I'm not kidding. I want you to kick me in the ass," insisted the Marine.

So the leader shoved him into the open, and kicked him in the ass.

The Marine went sprawling, but rolled to his knees, pulled a 9mm pistol from inside his cammies, and shot the leader dead. In the resulting confusion, he leapt to his knapsack, pulled out his M4 carbine, and sprayed the Iraqis with gunfire. In a flash, the Iraqis were dead or fleeing for their lives.

As the Marine was untying Rather and Roberts, they asked him, "Why didn't you just shoot them? Why did you ask them to kick you in the ass?"

"What!?" said the Marine, "And have you *******s call ME the aggressor?"

[gutinstinct]

Dam Gyrene, you guys really canned the s**t out that bird. If you ever came to NYC, you would have a secure future here stripping cars, (LOL).

[cball]

VMR 153 we flew C 119's out of Cherry Pt way back in 55 56-57 58 ,I think 153 was de-commissioned in 1960.
C Ball

[Gyrene251]

Hey Gut -

Like buzzards on roadkill! Worked on my site and realised I busted the link to the picture - here's another angle on it.

http://www.vmfa251.org/dixon052A.jpg

:evilgrin:

[crate78]

cball, I flew all over the east end of the country, including Puerto Rico, in C-119's from '55 to '57. I probably rode your birds many times.

Two things I recall about the C-119's. They were noisy, and they had a fairly high cruise speed for a piston engine cargo plane.

I also recall one time some GySgt who was a crew chief on a C-119 got drunk one Sunday afternoon, stole a C-119, and all by himself flew it to an Air Force Base somewhere down south, Lousiana, I believe. Even landed successfully. Do you know anything about that?

crate

[CRASH CORPORAL]

Mwss 272 Mcas New River 1993-95
Mwss 171 Mcas Iwakuni 1995-96

[cball]

Crate78,I dont recall that sgt, taking the plane,but with all the hours we spent setting in behind the pilots and watching them at the controls,I know I could have flown one.I taxied them to the end of the flight line to make power checks..We flew to Vieques a lot..Its nice to hear from someone that was in back in the old days..What outfit was you with? cball

[kydevildogmark]

Mals-31 Beaufort,SC man there wasn't anything there but did I love that place.The base as I left it back in 06 was all f-18s. Guess what guys I feel all you pain I was GSE and the statement of Greatest Show on Earth was correct and always remember YOU CAN"T GET IT UP WITHOUT US. The old huffers man you could hear those things all over base.loud as ll get out.

[gutinstinct]

I found this picture. I think we were at Luke AFB.

[BenofPac]

Mals26 Gse
6072

[gutinstinct]

This picture was taken at ( I can't spell to save my life ) Kadena AFB sometime on 312's 1984 West Pac. What memories.

[gutinstinct]

This picture was shot by a RIO in another bird. If am correct we just left Wake Island. Our next stops were K-Bay, yuma, and last Beaufort.

[gutinstinct]

To all you wingers out there. Happy Thanksgiving. Its nice to have a decent meal without the smell of JP4 or 5 in the air.

[Wyoming]

To all you wingers out there. Happy Thanksgiving. Its nice to have a decent meal without the smell of JP4 or 5 in the air.

Yeah, but you gotta admit, it's a good smell to wake up to.

[Marine84]

DAYAM! We got 9 pages of Wingers! OOHRAH! Swing with the Wing ya'll - IYAOYAS!

[skyhawker]

I was in Mag 24, VMA-533 Apr. 1960-Jan 1964
A4D-2 SkYHAWK --A4D-2N SKYHAWK, The 2n had radar.
Plane captain
Check crew laeader
Taxi pilot

[vanmac]

...you should know about the First Marine Aircraft Wing Association. The homepage is: http://www.firstmaw.homestead.com/

Under the forum index you will find a "Units Section" with all the different MAG's.

The group's next reunion will be in 2009 in Beaufort, SC.

[Artemis]

I was Ch46E Airframer
HMM-263 (before it crossed over to the darkside) MCAS New River
HMM-262 Okinawa Japan
HMM-365 MCAS New River

[demo115]

I was attached to the folowing units:

VMFA-451 (the Warlords) MCAS Beaufort, Powerline shop, 1994-1997
VMFA(AW)-332 (the Moonlighters) MCAS Beaufort, Powerline shop, 1997-1997
VFA-125(the Rough Raiders) NAS Lemoore, Line shack and Powerplants shop, 1997-2001
VMFA-115 (the Silver Eagles) MCAS Beaufort, Powerline shop and Corrosion Control SNCOIC, 2001-2005

All the above units flew F/A-18's. VFA-125 is a training squadron and therefore has the A/B/C/D models of the Hornet.

There is also a Navy Hornet squardon on MCAS Beaufort as well. It is VFA-86.

The other units on MCAS Beaufort are as follows: VMFA-115, VMFA-122, VMFA-251, VMFA(AW)-224, VMFA(AW)-332, VMFA(AW)-533, and VMFA-312.

Semper Fi

[Savair777]

Ah, those great old recips! I worked on the last of the T-28's at SOES MCAS Quantico back in 76 and then moved onto Ch-46's.

[wrenchednuts]

Any Warlords out there? A few of us that keep in touch are looking to throw a reunion of some kind. Hedge VMFA-451 Radar, 83-87

[dakota44485]

Vmfa(aw)-533 'hawks' 1993-1994
Vmfa(aw)-332 'moonlighters' 1994-1996
Vmfa-122 'crusaders' 1996-1996

[J Paul Kay]

H&MS 11 Echo Vans (ALQ-76 & ALE-32) 1972
VMCJ-1 Det 101 Cubi Pt. 1973
Back to H&MS 11, then
H&MS 12 Iwakuni 1974- finally
H&MS 14 Cherry Pt. 1975 and out.

[volcomkid22]

IYAOYAS
if you ain't ordanance you ain't s**t....Radar Tech here, but when I was in P'cola that's all the AO guys would yell.

[Parker-0321]

Aircraft Recovery
H&HS Futenma
Okinawa Japan

Pensacola was a fun time. Can't find a bar that'll make a Devil Dog like portside did.

[JAGarland]

A month of OJT with HMM-163 and then MALS-36 Okinawa Power Plants for the CH-46E!

[Bill Pemberton]

Been known to ride a pod, but thet's another story, It's got a GTC inside damn near the same as in the left wheel pod on a KC130F Uses bleed air off'n the turbine section thru a hose connection. tick, tick, tick,

[dadandsonmarine]

Hey Gunny......remember me?

Grey Ghost 82-85
RDR shop under SSGT Downard and IWT under Gunny Smith.

[dadandsonmarine]

We had to use a huffer or wells unit along with external power to start our F4-N's. It is much easier to fire up a Hornet, exept for having to pump up the APU accumulator. Especially no fun with a hangover.:sick:
Yes, the Hornet is much more maintainer friendly.

I actually had the oportunity to help pull an engine out of a Harrier during a WTI det. Given the choice between a Harrier and Phantom (which wasn't much of a cake walk either) I'd choose the Phantom. Plus, going to high power is a rush. (especially if you have a hard light or compressor stall)
Hey Lonnie.....GUNNYMAX

531 RDR and IWT 82-85

Lcpl Smith

[rjboehle]

USMC - 1962 -1966
Plt #376 San Diego
Memphis Tn Hyd school
HMS 24 Cherry Point
VMFA 115 Cherry Point - Japan - VietNam F-4s
VMFA 542 VietNam F-4s
El Toro

[Pop-A-TopII]

Recruit Training
1970, Boot Camp - Parris Island, A/12810
1970-1970, Formal Schools/Infantry Training School EAST (SOI East)17
1970-1970, Formal Schools/AMS School, MATSS 901, MATSG 90, Millington TN
1970-1971, 6073, MCAS Cherry Point, NC/H&HS2
1970-1971, Formal Schools/NATTC, Jacksonville FL
1971-1972, 6073, MAG 36/H&MS-362
1971-1972, 6073, ComCabs West/MCAS, Futenma, Japan
http://marines.*********************/usmc/thumbs/73137.jpg]

[silverdollar]

VMFN513, I was stationed at MCAS Edenton in 58. I was not airwing, I was FMF but I was awaiting discharge and they put me in the electric shop there, I got out in Oct 58 and I seem to remember they...

[fr1sbee]

I was with VMFA 115 in Iwakuni Japan in 1973-1975 I was in the hydraulics shop. then went back to the states and went to a composite helicopter squadron HMM 261

[NVRgoSOFTLY6531]

IYAOYAS, It's a term I guess us new ordnancemen use. IF You Aint Ordnance You Aint ****. I personally agree but there are a few that don't huhhuh. Anyway I work at HMH-464, was with HMLA-269, and 542. I have a little AR to do for the next 5 hours in a 53E. Oorah.
Hopefully that answered it for you sir have a good evening

[Alhujo]

I was in VMFA 251 Thunderbolts in 81', they were still F-4's. I was in the Hyd Shop ( hated the "hell hole", trying to get a wrench in the vertical stab to take out the actuator, and couldn't see the bolts. I could fit inside there back then... some what. ) Left there and went to Pax river (Naval Air Test Center) and was the first Marine to leave STRIKE Hangar to venture over to the "Secretive McDonald Douglas Hangar" to work on the new Pre-Production F-18 Hornet. I was attached to M.A.D. Pax. Gunny Leckemby anyone? Great marine. Then volunteered for the Drill Field. The F-4's at Beaufort were replaced with F-18's around 86' 87'. Man, that is a sweet bird. Went to El Toro in 88'.

[lbarroso]

MALS-36 MCAS Futenma Okinawa Japan
MALS-39 MCAS Camp Pendleton

6494 Combat Data Systems Tech

[1021]

Yea i was in vmfa(aw)242, but they got disbanded and went to japan and joined up with mag-12

[PhantomFixer]

Wow! I never thought I'd see this many "Wingers" crawling out of the woodwork. I was a Hyd Mech with VMFA-312 (83-86) VMFA-112 (86-91) VMFA-122 (91-93) and VMFA (AW)-332 from 93-95. Joined the California National Guard in '98 and somehow wound up as the S-4 NCO for a Special Forces unit. (Just got back from Iraq in May.)
I was digging through my war chest the other day and actually came across the photos that were used to put together the Cruise Book from the 84-85 West-Pac. How I wound up with them I will never know, I just wish I could remember the names of the people in the bloody pictures...
Anyway, Semper Fi :usmc:

[Ploft]

VMFA-323 F4's 66-68 Flight Equipment

[Benjo]

HMLA-367 "Scarface"

Hydraulics, 1983-1988

[Benjo]

Mals-39 06-07
Just Checked Into Hmla-367 Scarface


Glad to have seen this post...

Good luck with Scarface Marine!

[Benjo]

I was in HML-367 83-86.


And Ben Hanson here, '83-'88

All we need now is Sitko, Latham and maybe Glenn Legg for the party to start!

[jetdoc]

I was in VMFA 251 Thunderbolts in 81', they were still F-4's. I was in the Hyd Shop ( hated the "hell hole", trying to get a wrench in the vertical stab to take out the actuator, and couldn't see the bolts. I could fit inside there back then... some what. ) Left there and went to Pax river (Naval Air Test Center) and was the first Marine to leave STRIKE Hangar to venture over to the "Secretive McDonald Douglas Hangar" to work on the new Pre-Production F-18 Hornet. I was attached to M.A.D. Pax. Gunny Leckemby anyone? Great marine. Then volunteered for the Drill Field. The F-4's at Beaufort were replaced with F-18's around 86' 87'. Man, that is a sweet bird. Went to El Toro in 88'.

Alec, I was right next door to you in El Toro, VMFP-3.....but a few years earlier. Man I had a blast in El Toro, that base was in primo SoCal. Used to blast on my bike to Laguna Beach daily, great times.

[bucksgted]

I was in VMFA 251 Thunderbolts in 81', they were still F-4's. I was in the Hyd Shop ( hated the "hell hole", trying to get a wrench in the vertical stab to take out the actuator, and couldn't see the bolts. I could fit inside there back then... some what. ) Left there and went to Pax river (Naval Air Test Center) and was the first Marine to leave STRIKE Hangar to venture over to the "Secretive McDonald Douglas Hangar" to work on the new Pre-Production F-18 Hornet. I was attached to M.A.D. Pax. Gunny Leckemby anyone? Great marine. Then volunteered for the Drill Field. The F-4's at Beaufort were replaced with F-18's around 86' 87'. Man, that is a sweet bird. Went to El Toro in 88'.

Hey, Alec, I was with VMF-251 from April '57 to June '58. We had FJ-3s at the time. We were at MCAS, Opa Locka, FL (Miami). 251 was just getting their sh*t together after rotating back from Korea. I joined them right out of AQ school. Opa Locka was closed in late '59 or early '60.

[brodog63]

Vmfa 112, Nas Dallas, Tx

[ZaHickman]

I spent my first four at Combat Logistics Company 21 (CLC-21) in support of the Areal Port Of Emabrk (APEO). CLC was formaly CSSD-21, formaly Det C...

[BikerCrewChief]

And Ben Hanson here, '83-'88

All we need now is Sitko, Latham and maybe Glenn Legg for the party to start!

Hey Ben, how is it going? We had some good times in the old Scarface!! Wish I had stayed in.:evilgrin:

[sscjoe]

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The pilot pretended not to notice and, upon debarking, he gallantly offered his assistance to help with the various baby-related articles. When the young mother expressed her gratitude, the pilot responded, 'Gosh, that's a good looking baby...and he sure was hungry!'
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[blevins]

I'm PCS-ing to Quantico to HMX-1 as a 6173. I'm a straight up nugget and if there are any of you out there that can give me some pointers, tips, help, hot spots, insight, etc... message me. I check in on the 29th but will head down tomorrow and stay out in town so I can visit and get somewhat acquainted with the place.

[Jarhed87]

MALS-39, AVI-610 ('88 - '92)
MALS-36, AVI-610 (Det) ('89-'90)

http://usmcaviationinsignia.tripod.com/aviationlogos/mals39.jpg

[miked23]

I am also an Ex. Air Winger,
VMGR 252, H&MS27 (Cherry Point) 67-68
H&MS 17 Da Nang 68-69
VMGR 352 El Toro 69-70

I was a 'tweet' or 'twigit' (Avionics), although I rarely got to do that.

Mike Dolan (Rocketman)

[Sawyer]

I'm with MAG 31, the parent unit to VMFA 312,251,224,122,115 and 533, Ooh Rah!

[oifvet23]

Hey devildogs no offense on what am going to say but I remember the drunken AO's (avaition ordanance) would come into the barracks at 0500 hrs screaming "AO AO AO AO". Other than that. I have no idea. Marine84 can you please inform us on what it means ? Thanks. * Dam am getting old *

If a marine ordie said that "AO AO AO AO" he would get punched in the face, the Navy says that crap

[Marine1955]

anyone remember going for some flight line as a newby to the airwing? I do

[Jarhed87]

anyone remember going for some flight line as a newby to the airwing? I do


How about pulling "Plane Watch" in Millington? :p

[Range Coach]

anyone remember going for some flight line as a newby to the airwing? I do

We sent several boots to the EAF at the stumps for a yard of flight line and a bucket of prop wash.

[2nd gen sgt]

I was with Mag 39 82-92, and deployments in that time

[GSEMarine94]

Mals 26 GSE 95-98 (6072), the black sheep of the wing.



anyone remember going for some flight line as a newby to the airwing? I do

During my time the thing to do to FNG's was to send them to another shop asking for a "stack of 73's" (referencing 6073's aviation electricians) of course this would be frowned upon today from what I have been told.;)

[MontezumaCpl]

Wow, nice memories!

Fod Waaaaaaaaaaalk!!!

VMA 133

[awbrown1462]

as Supply I would send FNG's to other sections asking for flight line, comm grease, and left handed wrenches

[Skidawg]

MALS-31 GSE here 1988-1996, despite a brief stint with VMFA(AW)-332. Spent my career "stationed at Beaufort" but deployed whenever I could. I was a 6073, but started my career as a 6078. Any information on MALS-31 GSE is appreciated, past and present. Stingers! I was there when the name/patch was created.

[Skidawg]

as Supply I would send FNG's to other sections asking for flight line, comm grease, and left handed wrenches

One of my favorites was sending the newbies out for a ID10T form, do the "math" and it is an idiot form.

[hvmech]

2nd MAW MCAS Beaufort SC MAG-32 MATCU-63...'66-'68
1st MAW Phu Bai, RVN MAG-36 MATCU-68...'68-'69
2851 Aviation Radio
Swing with the Wing!!!!!!!!!!!
Semper Fi

[hvmech]

Skidawg.....what about sending them out for a Sky Hook and 50' of Flight Line????
They always came back looking real nervous and usually a little upset too.....

[azLobo]

I saw yous lighter. I have VMF (AW) 314 cufflinks and a tie tac that my father gave me. He was in the unit around 1959. Here is his profile:
http://marines.*********************/usmc/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApps?cmd=PublicProfile&type=Person&ID=21460

**************** (http://marines.*********************/usmc/servlet/tws.webapp.WebApps?cmd=PublicProfile&type=Person&ID=21460) dot com

Semper Fi,

Bill



I was with VMF-251 in '57 / '58 and VMF(AW)314 in '58 / '59. We had FJ-3's in 251 and F4D-1's in 314. I worked on the fire control systems.

In my younger days when I was bullet proof and gonna live forever, I used these lighters like there was no tomorrow. What kind of "tokens" do you have these days.

[azLobo]

___Year___MOS___________ Unit________________________________
1980-1980, 6331, MATSG-90, NAS Memphis, TN/MATSS-901
1980-1988, 6331, Formal Schools/Aviation Fundamentals School
1980-1980, 6331, Formal Schools/Basic Electricity and Electronics (B Double E)
1980-1981, 6331, Formal Schools/Aviation Electricians Mate A School (AE-A)
1981-1981, 6431, MAG-11/TME-31
1981-1981, 6434, Fixed Wing Units/VMA-211 (Wake Avengers)
1983-1983, 6434, Fixed Wing Units/VMA-214 (Blacksheep)
1981-1987, 6434, MAG-12/H&MS-12
1981-1988, 6434, MAG-13/H&MS-13
1983-1988, 6432, Fixed Wing Units/VMA-311 (Tomcats)
1988-1989, 6432, MAG-11/MALS-11
1989-1992, 6432, MAG-13/MALS-13
1992-1993, 8411, Recruiting Units/RSS <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:City w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:City>
1993-2005, 3EO71 Interior/Exterior Electrical Systems Specialist/US AIR FORCE

S/F,

Bill Cline
W/C 620<!-- / message -->

[azLobo]

Air Wing.

My father spent his whole career as an Air Wing Marine.
He was in WWII, Korea and Vietnam.

Right after WWII
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z123/azboatnic/TSgtDad.jpg
Korea
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z123/azboatnic/MTSgtDad.jpg
Vietnam
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z123/azboatnic/MajClineVietnam.jpg

[Skidawg]

Skidawg.....what about sending them out for a Sky Hook and 50' of Flight Line????
They always came back looking real nervous and usually a little upset too.....

Flight line was always good, or 5 gallons of prop wash. All of these were followed-up with a phone call alerting those involved that a newbe was coming and to be prepared. I heard about plane watch in Millington but never "stood it". Anyone remember "The Anchor"?

[Marine1955]

who remembers the SR-71 I do it was something to see and watch fly
SR-71 Blackbird (http://www.sr-71.org/blackbird/sr-71/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N31eEXjNAUU

[1stRad2671]

For those that have been there, does HMX-1 do flyovers for events?

[bonuspak]

I was a crewchief on the 46s flying search and rescue with soms at Kaneohe Bay from 1975-1978

[blevins]

For those that have been there, does HMX-1 do flyovers for events?

It all depends on the event and if it's local to HMX. For example, we wouldn't fly a frag to California just to do a flyover of a football game or something like that.

[tpbranum]

HMM-164, HMM-166, HMM-165 3rd MAW 1998-2003

[SheDevilDog]

VMFA-122 Crusaders, but I think they changed the name. My husband was an ordie. If you aint ordinance you aint sh_t. I was seat shop. Yeah I know kinda lame MOS. At the time it was that or the big green weenie, I mean Open Contract.

[GSEMarine94]

Welcome aboard SheDevildog :flag:

[giveen]

Mals-13 2003-2007 Aisd
Mag-13 2007 S-6

[Tinez88]

PFC Martinez
3rd MAW MALS 11 MAG 11 500 division!
MAchine shop!!!

[GSEMarine94]

Welcome aboard Tinez88, went to welding school back in 95 or 96 with some machine shop Marines, they weren't gse but they were alright :marine:

[avenger08]

VMA-211 (Wake Island Avengers) feb 08 to present, currently deployed on the 31st MEU.... Semper Fi Gents

[sparkie]

Airdales,,,,,,,,,,,

[FattyTheFerret]

TACC (East)

[jungholee90]

Found out where I'm going to, FINALLY, lol.
AM
VMFAT-101

[Joe CoooooL]

Vmfa-251 86-89

[Joe CoooooL]

I was in VMFA 251 Thunderbolts in 81', they were still F-4's. I was in the Hyd Shop ( hated the "hell hole", trying to get a wrench in the vertical stab to take out the actuator, and couldn't see the bolts. I could fit inside there back then... some what. ) Left there and went to Pax river (Naval Air Test Center) and was the first Marine to leave STRIKE Hangar to venture over to the "Secretive McDonald Douglas Hangar" to work on the new Pre-Production F-18 Hornet. I was attached to M.A.D. Pax. Gunny Leckemby anyone? Great marine. Then volunteered for the Drill Field. The F-4's at Beaufort were replaced with F-18's around 86' 87'. Man, that is a sweet bird. Went to El Toro in 88'.

We went from f-4s to f-18s the spring of 86.

[fr1sbee]

I was in HMA 169 AH1G (single engine)Cobras in 73, went overseas in 73 went to VMFA 115 Silver Eagles working on F-4B Phantoms in Nam Phong Thailand, then to Iwakuni Japan. Then back in the States went to HMM 261 a composite squadron of CH-46's, UH1N, CH-53D, AH1J cobras, and was on a Med Cruise on the LPH INCHON in 75 till 76 when I got out.

After I got out of the service in 76 went to work for Bell Helicopter International in Iran for 3 years.

[GIrene]

6257...

VMFA-314 2006-2008
VMFAT-101 2008-Present

Hopefully getting back with the Black Knights or over to VMFA(AW)-225.

[1stRad2671]

Some smartass at VMGR-234 programmed the transporder of a KC-130 that passed through my area today with a callsign of DOGPENIS. :D

[Zulu 36]

Some smartass at VMGR-234 programmed the transporder of a KC-130 that passed through my area today with a callsign of DOGPENIS. :D



Well, if that handle shows up here, we'll know either who did it, or who it was directed to. :D

[Sergeant M]

C-130 Loadmaster VMGR-152 Okinawa, Japan.

[jetdoc]

Airdales,,,,,,,,,,,

Now, now, now Ken. You know Airdale is a Navy term. We are AirWingers. :D

[giveen]

0651 working in MALS-13, MAG-13 along side AISD

[vanmac]

You’ve ever said, “Yea, it’s supposed to look like that.”
You’ve ever breathed 100% Oxygen to cure a hangover.
You've ever used 145 Octane AVGAS in your car.
You know what JP-4 or JP-5 tastes like.
You’ve ever used a piece of safety wire as a toothpick.
You can’t figure out why maintenance officers exist.
You consider “Moly-B” smudges on food an “acquired taste.”
You have ever jumped inside an intake to get out of the rain.
You looked for pictures of “your” jet in aviation books and magazines.
You can’t figure out why two weeks pay is gone after three days.
You ever used a wheel chock or tow bar for a pillow.
You ever stood on wheel chocks to keep your feet dry.
You ever used a pair of dikes to trim a fingernail.
You ever wiped leaks away right before a crew showed up.
You ever had to defuel your jet an hour after fueling it.
You refer to QA as “the enemy.”
You know the international sign language for “pull your head out of your ass.”
You believe the aircraft has a soul. You talk to the aircraft.
You know more about your mechanic buddies than you do about your own family, everyone you know has some kind of nickname.
You’ve wanted the jet to start just so you can warm up.
You have ever bled hydraulic fluid into a Gatorade bottle or soda can because it was too hard to get a hydraulic bucket.
You used the “Pull Chocks” hand signal to tell your buddies it is time to leave.
You ever pre-flighted in bad weather only to learn that the flight was canceled hours ago.
You know in your heart that your jet is female.
You refer to ANY machine as "she."
You’ve ever been told to go get some prop wash, a yard of flight line or the keys to the jet.
You fix $30 million jets, but can’t figure out what’s wrong with your $150 lawnmower.
Your toolbox at home has wheels and foam cutouts, just like the ones at work.
Some of the tools in your toolbox at home have names etched on them.<O:p></O:p>

[Ray Manker]

H&MS-15 MAG-15 1964-67 H&MS-56 at Tustin till EAS in 1968. Group Supply 3071

[Ed Palmer]

I found one of your lost airwingers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8L-ZZSc8JU&mode=related&search=

The Airline Pilot...
Foster Brooks at his best
I remember seeing this years ago live on TV.

It was funny then and perhaps funnier now..

[jungholee90]

6257...

VMFA-314 2006-2008
VMFAT-101 2008-Present

Hopefully getting back with the Black Knights or over to VMFA(AW)-225.

Dang Corporal, I'm in your shop! lmao. I didn't know you were on here. :D

[chevstuff]

1st MAW, MAG 16, H&MS 16 (1965-1966)
Da Nang and Marble Mountain

3rd MAW, MAG36 (1966-1968)
El Toro

[Zapablast05]

MAG-39 MALS-39 GSE. 6073 on paper, but 6072 at work lol.

[TypeOrange]

3rd MAW MAG-39 HMLA-469.

[sgtim]

8th&I the Purple Foxes are HMM-164 and HMM-262 are the Flying Tigers. Both outstanding squadrons who served in Nam and Iraq. I was with HMM-262 in Nam and we had a crew chief that went to HMM-164 who earned the Navy Cross in Nam. Ernesto "Gooie" Gomez

[Dinobosco]

H&MS-31 1967-1979 Avionics. Got half skins for flying on the C-117. EX-281. I finally found out what happened to the plane. They took it to Iceland and made a house out of it. Whoda thunk.

[sgtim]

Any pixs?

[Dinobosco]

Here's what became of my beloved plane.

[Dinobosco]

http://www.ruudleeuw.com/iceland07.htm

Here's a link with more photos and information about Goony Birds in Iceland. They even did a magazine story about the house they built from the plane.

[DrZ]

VMCJ-3
H&MS-11
VMCJ-1
H&MS-12
H&MS-15
H&HS Yuma Az
And a couple of floats with the squids.

So I guess I qualify as a Winger.... lol.

[jungholee90]

You Know You Were An Aircraft Mechanic If...

You’ve ever said, “Yea, it’s supposed to look like that.”
You know what JP-4 or JP-5 tastes like.
You ever stood on wheel chocks to keep your feet dry.
You ever wiped leaks away right before a crew showed up.
You refer to QA as “the enemy.”
You know more about your mechanic buddies than you do about your own family, everyone you know has some kind of nickname.
You’ve wanted the jet to start just so you can warm up.
You’ve ever been told to go get some prop wash, a yard of flight line or the keys to the jet.

LOL! You've ever been told to get exhaust sample with black trash bag.

[Marine1955]

Homemade B-29 bomber.........Wow! This is cool.



This aircraft runs on four chainsaw motors.

You can just imagine how much time, effort, skill and money these guys have put into this thing.


Click on the site below.


http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv (http://users.skynet.be/fa926657/files/B29.wmv)

[lloyd holland]

When i left Cherry Point N.C. in 1983 i lost all contact with everyone that was in my squadron. We flew the EA6 Intruder, if anyone know of any lost Hawks from 533, let me know :thumbup:

[JohnEaceHunt]

Well, grampsdw251, I have answered this before, and expressed my opinion . Won't read all the pages to find out where, but it means 'if you ain't ordinance, you ain't sh*t'. But I'll say this, unless you have a Plane Capt., the Bird will not get re-fueled, repaired, Pilot strapped in, and, or launched. You can have all the ordinance in the world it will carry, as many cannon rounds it will hold, as many bombes and rockets it will carry, but unless you have someone(Plane Capt., to get it all put together, It will not get off the ground). I was in VMF(AW)333, ole Trip-Tray in Beaufort in '67, as a Plane Capt., and was transfered to VMF(AW)235, The 'Death Angels',(Delta Bravo), as a Plane Capt., the 1st Feb '68 after a rush job in A.I.T., at Pendleton, before going over. The 'Death Angles', 235, was the LAST Combat F-8 Crusader Squadron the Marine Corps ever had, as we had to give our entire Squadron of F-8 U's to the Navy,(the ones that were left), off the coast, and go to Iwakuni Japan, de-moth ball a Squadron of F-8 C's, mid '68, and fly them one shot to Okinawa, and get them all Combat ready with-in one month, and give them to the Navy, as well. Soon after both 451, and 333, I believe got the F-4 D's for awhile, then went to the F-18. Not sure in what year though. We then, that had time left in-Country, went back to various places. I went to Chu-Lai, to H&MS-13 Engine shop, then TAD to the Army CLICO, 23rd Americal Div. M.P. Company for awhile. Loved it. Then I went to Cubi Pt, Philippines for Complete Engine Repair, then back to H&MS-13 and extended for a Crew Chief slot on H-46 Helicopters, with HMM-265. Best 46 Squadron there, in my opinion. Ordinance is important, but unless the Bird gets off the ground, 'the ordinance ain't worth a flip'. Just like the 46 Crew Chief, unless the 46 has a Crew Chief, not one mission can be completed, period. Ah, a Gunner too, as the Crew Chief is a Gunner as well. Semper Fi, and READY-APP.

[lloyd holland]

I remember the first day i got to the airwing, man i thought comming from the grunts to the wing was like night and day, from spit and polish to laid in the shade, all the fellas had a little longer hair, unbloused boots, fluff dry covers that could fit in the side pocket of the cammies, Damn. When the SGTMAJ. of the squadron took me to the side, i was just a lance coolie at the time and told me he was an ex grunt too, hell i felt a little better, i told him that i don't know if i could fit in the wing, he said give it a try and if i didn't like it he would get me some orders cut to were i wanted to go. So i gave it a try and ended up staying in and swinging with the wing for the next four years. If all of the old squadron members of VMA(AW)533 HAWKS of 1979-1983 got back together and said we were getting back the old squadron hell yeah am with it.

[revleo]

A6E TRAM
Jet Mech
Plane Captain


and if i hear that double nuts has gone down for maintenence again i am gonna scream that was our trouble girl on the line

[ChuckH]

MABS-32 MAG-32
70-72
I just went back to good ole Beaufort last April when I was on vacation in Myrtle Beach.. has that base changed in 39 years!!! :p

[duwizrd]

Semper Fi, Marines, Phantom Phyxers and Harrier Techs - we are one

After basic Avionics and AFTA at NATTC Millington, I traveled west with my buddy and class mate Wayne Comfort in his souped up 1960 Pontiac Catalina to MCAS El Toro and together we joined the VMCJ-3 Avionics shop in February, 1971 and transferred with the flight control, reconnaissance avionics, and camera shop IMA vans to H&MS a few months later. Served on two Yuma and one Fallon deployments. Remember Boy's Town, the Mustang Bridge Ranch, Pool Shoot-offs, and general hi-jinks.

Bartended at the El Toro Enlisted Club (what was the name of that place?). Point man in the biggest race riot in Marine Corps history at that same club in '72 and was appointed as the base human relations facilitator as a result. Wanted to hit the dirt in Nam so transferred to Harriers at MCAS Beaufort in October, '72 but we didn't deploy until July, '74. Took the assignment to work on radar but there wasn't any. Ha! Screwed by the retention officer, the lyin fck. Always missed my Reccy Birds and the radar rangers I started with.

VMA-513 navigation and weapons control IMA at H&MS with deployments to Yuma and transfer to 1st MAW and MCAS Iwakuni via USS Tripoli in July '74. Remember Club 118, Iwakuni, soup soba, rice omelettes with Texas toast, jumping off Kentai Bridge, the Commandant's Regata, PI deployment, running the sea wall, and sniping the MPs.

Exited Marines to good jobs in the same business working on the same systems I was trained on. Helped transition four ANG bases to RF4Cs and installed a few ASR (airport surveillance radar) systems at civilian air fields across the country. Spent a year in Europe with NATO bringing up the Tornado which used an upgrade to the radar in the RF4s and then left the field entirely to go to college and enter the business world to make a splash after completing undergrad and grad programs in psychology and communication management, respectively.

Learned about PTSD, wrote The Wall Within which was used by the VA in Chicago and elsewhere in their PTSD programs for many years. Married, raised five step children, lost family in tragedy and got lost for a few years in self-abuse, apathy and anger: my own PTSD. Funny, when you're in it you can't really recognize it so much.

Returned to SoCal after 9/11, dove into acting, did several movies and some TV and had a hit play in LA dinner theater for five seasons as a Major General before spending two years ('06-'08) training battalions of Marines at 29 Palms for Iraq and Afghanistan, some as many as three times. The greatest duty this old Marine ever had was spending my thirtieth anniversary OUT of the Corps running around in a man-dress and head-wrap with an AK47 blowing hell out of Marines and then standing them up, correcting their errors and doing it again. We did this over and over at the Mojave Viper Culture and Urban Operations Predeployment Training Program. I was not even the oldest Marine on deck. One of my partners joined the Marine Corps the year I was born. He is my personal fitness hero, still fit because he works at it with skates and bicycle to go easy on the knees.

I retired from the field after receiving a severe injury to my leg from an overzealous young Marine. Was mostly unable to walk for 18 months and only recently can jog some and do limited leaping about. That ****es me off. Bicycling and skating to get back in shape one day at a time. The time off and pain killers took their toll on me and I lost track of a lot of things, including my finances as the economy went to **** and everything I had vanished. Now, rebuilding from scratch.

I am proud to have served with each and every one of you. Have faith and work with discipline to make things happen. Keep your waist down, your chest up, your chin high and catch up with me at: www.targetingchangeworks.com, scistm.com, daniellatch.com. I am open to business referrals and opportunities and always extend myself for Marines in any way I can. Never a hand out but always a hand up.

Semper Fi,
Daniel Latch
MCRD PI Plt 1049
USMC 1969 - 1976
AFTA #2
AKA: 'Doc', 'Grey Fox', 'DuhWizard'

[ChuckH]

I am cornfused.. Who were you with in Nam?
The way I read it you say VMA-513?

[USMCDavis07]

On my orders it says my unit is 1J1 and my GYSGT said that it is air wing unit... but I looked it up and it said 1st Marines 1st Division is an infantry unit??? I am confused... I am a 0612 wiremen... Thanks

[Backhaus 1103]

On my orders it says my unit is 1J1 and my GYSGT said that it is air wing unit... but I looked it up and it said 1st Marines 1st Division is an infantry unit??? I am confused... I am a 0612 wiremen... Thanks

If it was 1/1 it would say V11 for Victor 1st BN 1st Mar, since all grunt Bn are victor units. I have no idea what 1J1 is or if its in the wing or not. You could probably put a bunch of letters and numbers together and convince me it's a wing unit. Infantry is about as far as my knowledge goes.

[greenmarinepack]

Mcas Yuma,was with 2nd LAAM Bn,from 83-85!

[larry99]

h&ms12 mag12 ground support equip chu lai by the sea-68-69

[USMCDavis07]

Thank you gentlemen. errr..

[SDHotShot]

I served with HMT-303, MAG 39, 3rd MAW from 1992-1996 as a Crewchief on UH-1N and front seat vib-analysis test pilot on AH-1W. Miss that stuff!

[lloyd holland]

MARINES we are in the a--kicking business, and business is good.:devious:

[lloyd holland]

If you can read, thank a teacher if you can read in english, thank a Marine.

[lloyd holland]

We Marines have a saying to those who do not us. We can be your best friend, we can be your worst enemy, YOUR CHOICE. :usmc:

[lloyd holland]

Death Smiles At Everyone, Marines Smiles Back. Ooh-rah

[lloyd holland]

Real friends don't let friends, join the army.

[FattyTheFerret]

this isn't the thread for that, dude :p

[tdrt]

Mcas Yuma,was with 2nd LAAM Bn,from 83-85!

I was with MAWTS-1 at the same time!

Holy crap. Now I'm nervous.....

[Garyius]

I was with MAWTS-1 at the same time!

Holy crap. Now I'm nervous.....

I came out a few times for WTI support in 91/92. I individual ordered maybe early 92(?) Did you ever work with the 7242s?

[CPL/7113]

1959-NAS Lakhurst-Parachute Rigger School
1959-1961-MCCAS Yuma(before it was a full air station) Base Parachute Loft
1961-1962 -NAS Atsugi-H&MS 11 Parachute Loft.TAD to VMF-312(F8U's)to Cubi Point.
1962-1963-MCAS Cherry Point MARS 27

[MarBar76]

1st Marine Air Wing Iwakuni Japan 82-83 :cry:

[rwest158497]

Mag 24, Macs 2 (the Duece) K-bay 84-87. Any One Else?

[Oran]

graduated MOS school now a 0231 and i just got orders to HMM-268,

[jamielang1951]

I was with 1st MAW Forward, DaNang, Vietman '70/'70

http://s131.photobucket.com/albums/p298/jamielang1951/USMC%20Photos/?action=view&current=1stMAWdanangcopy.jpg

http://www.myspace.com/devildogmarine1

[dhuntington]

I was in HMM-263, then HMM-261 with whom I went to Beirut in '82. Came home and was the first enlisted man in a brand new squadron, HMM-266. I actually helped design the new squadron emblem. Of course, all those HMMs are now VMMs due to the USMC having mothballed the CH-46s and replaced them with Ospreys.

[tdrt]

I came out a few times for WTI support in 91/92. I individual ordered maybe early 92(?) Did you ever work with the 7242s?

I was long gone by then, but loved WTIs.

[CommNav]

8th&I the Purple Foxes are HMM-164 and HMM-262 are the Flying Tigers. Both outstanding squadrons who served in Nam and Iraq. I was with HMM-262 in Nam and we had a crew chief that went to HMM-164 who earned the Navy Cross in Nam. Ernesto "Gooie" Gomez

I believe HMM-164 was called the Knightriders. Their callsign was Swift. There is a photo of an HMM-164 helo on top of the embassy in Vietnam in 1975, the last one out. Its callsign was Swift-22. I flew with HMM-164 and HMM-165, the white knights, briefly in 1972 because they used Hueys from HML-367.

The Purple Foxes was the name for HMM-364. With all the 1's and 3's mixed up in Vietnam they are easily confused.

[6531yogo]

VMFA-212 Lancers 05-07
HMLA-267 Stingers 07-09

IYAOYAS

[MIKECHRY]

Vmat-102 A-4 Skyhawks 83-85 Yuma, Az

[tdrt]

Vmat-102 A-4 Skyhawks 83-85 Yuma, Az

I was there with MAWTS-1 at same time -- don't be telling stories about me now! :angel:

[dan bassett]

Howdy brothers, been a long time, but I remember it like it was yesterday. I was stationed at k-bay from 84-88 with HMM-265 as a flight equip. guy,and a .50 cal door gunner on 46 and 53's . It was the best job I ever had and the most fun ever.
I still get excited when and run outside to look up whenever jets fly over my house. I can hear helos from miles away and know what they are. My wife thinks I'm crazy, yeah I am, crazy for leaving the corps.
Semper Fi
This is what I do now, www.desireebassett.com I am the manager of Americas top female guitarist, and the proud daddy