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thedrifter
10-19-07, 02:41 PM
Marine dress code changes communities
By CHELSEA J. CARTER
Associated Press Writer
Oct. 19, 2007

OCEANSIDE, Calif. (AP) -- The Marine Corps is taking on the role of fashion police.

Earlier this year, the Marine Corps commandant updated the regulations on what Marines can and cannot wear, on duty and off, in the United States. Among the fashion don'ts: No shiny metal or gems on your teeth, no designs carved in your hair, no flashy jewelry and no bare midriffs or excessive cleavage.

But it is Gen. James T. Conway's ban on the wearing of camouflage uniforms, or "cammies," off base that is getting the most attention, changing not only the appearance of the Marines but also the look of their communities.

Under the new regulation, Marines in camouflage cannot get out of their vehicles to run an errand or grab a meal on their way to or from the base. No pumping gas, running into the post office or picking up a cup of joe, either.

Although Marines were always largely prohibited from wearing uniforms off base, they were allowed to make brief stops during their commutes. Now they can stop only for a medical emergency, a traffic accident or a breakdown.

Around Oceanside, a community about 35 miles north of San Diego where Marines from neighboring Camp Pendleton are a common sight, the most noticeable effect is at fast food drive-thrus. Long lines are forming because Marines in uniform are not allowed to get out of their cars and go inside.

John Alexander, who works at GI Joe's, a military surplus store, said customers don't drop in during the middle of the day anymore, though business picks up in the late afternoon.

"There's no such thing as a quick trip anymore," he said.

Navy Senior Chief David Matthews, 39, said the scene is the same in Jacksonville, N.C., outside Camp Lejeune. Matthews said some Marines and Navy personnel have come up with creative ways to run errands during duty hours.

"They get a buddy who has civilian clothes on to go with them. They drive and wait while their buddy gets out of the car and runs the errand," he said.

Marines caught in uniform off base can get a warning; for repeat offenses, they can be restricted to their barracks and their pay can be docked.

While the military has always had strict guidelines for what service members can wear, even out of uniform, Conway said the updated regulations are about maintaining Marine "uniformity and pride in appearance."

"It wasn't that Marines were blatantly breaking the rules. It was more of a tradition, and we just needed to get it back in the box, put it in writing and say here's the policy, here's the rules," said Staff Sgt. Jesse Lora, a spokesman at Camp Pendleton.

Earlier this year, the Marines banned extra-large tattoos below the elbow or the knee, saying such body art is harmful to the Corps' spit-and-polish image.

Some businesses are getting creative to cope with the no-cammies-off-base rule, which was issued in July.

In Oceanside, the Colimas Mexican Restaurant, popular for its takeout lunch, now runs a sort of carhop service for Marines, who call in their orders and then wait in their cars for delivery out front.

Andrea Cerda, who works at Dorothy's Military Shop, a tailor shop, said it is not uncommon to see Marines changing clothes in their car, wriggling out of their pants and boots and into civilian wear.

"You see them bending around their steering wheel or moving back and forth in the driver's seat and you know what they are doing," she said.

During a quick trip recently to drop off dry cleaning in Oceanside, Lance Cpl. Nicholas Doucakis, 20, had to change clothes on base. He said the regulation didn't bother him.

"If you are a Marine, they want you to look a certain way," he said. "I guess in a way they don't want you to look like a disgrace to society."

As for other branches of the military, Army soldiers can wear combat uniforms off base, and Navy personnel can wear some uniforms off base and off ship.

Under the updated Marine regulations, women are prohibited from baring their midriffs, wearing any lingerie-type clothing on the outside or wearing low-slung pants or blouses that show excessive cleavage.

"On the topic of wearing lingerie as outerwear, is the commandant kidding?" said TV style guru Tim Gunn of Bravo's "Project Runway." "Has this really been an issue? Surely, the Marines aren't accepting Britney into their ranks."

Ellie

thedrifter
10-21-07, 06:46 AM
October 21, 2007
For Marines in Camouflage, No Errands
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

OCEANSIDE, Calif., Oct. 20 (AP) — The Marine Corps is taking on the role of fashion police.

This year, Gen. James T. Conway, the Marine Corps commandant, updated the regulations on what marines can and cannot wear, on duty and off, in the United States. Among the fashion don’ts: shiny metal or gems on teeth, designs carved into hair, flashy jewelry, bare midriffs or excessive cleavage.

But it is General Conway’s ban on the wearing of camouflage uniforms off base that is getting the most attention, changing not only the appearance of the marines but also the look of their communities.

Under the new regulation, marines in camouflage cannot leave their vehicles to run an errand or grab a meal on their way to or from base. No pumping gas, running into the post office or picking up a cup of coffee.

Although marines were always largely prohibited from wearing uniforms off base, they were allowed to make brief stops during their commutes. Now they can stop only for a medical emergency, a traffic accident or a breakdown.

Around Oceanside, a city about 30 miles north of San Diego where marines from neighboring Camp Pendleton are a common sight, the most noticeable effect is at fast-food restaurants. Long lines are forming at drive-through windows.

John Alexander, who works at GI Joe’s, a military surplus store, said business had slowed during the day. “There’s no such thing as a quick trip anymore,” Mr. Alexander said.

Senior Chief Petty Officer David Matthews of the Navy said the scene was the same in Jacksonville, N.C., outside Camp Lejeune. Chief Matthews said some service members had come up with creative ways to run errands during duty hours.

“They get a buddy who has civilian clothes on to go with them,” Chief Matthews said. “They drive and wait while their buddy gets out of the car and runs the errand.”

Marines caught in uniform off base can get a warning; for repeat offenses, they can be restricted to their barracks and their pay can be docked.

While the military has always had rules for what service members can wear, even out of uniform, General Conway said the updated regulations were about maintaining “uniformity and pride in appearance.”

Staff Sgt. Jesse Lora, a spokesman at Camp Pendleton, said: “It wasn’t that marines were blatantly breaking the rules. It was more of a tradition, and we just needed to get it back in the box, put it in writing and say, Here’s the policy, here’s the rules.”

Some businesses are getting creative to cope with the new regulation, which was issued in July.

In Oceanside, the Colimas Mexican Restaurant, popular for its takeout lunch, now runs a sort of carhop service for marines.

Andrea Cerda, who works at Dorothy’s Military Shop, said it was not uncommon to see marines changing clothes in their car. “You see them bending around their steering wheel or moving back and forth in the driver’s seat, and you know what they are doing,” Ms. Cerda said.

During a quick trip recently to drop off dry cleaning in Oceanside, Lance Cpl. Nicholas Doucakis had to change his clothes on base.

He said the regulation did not bother him. “If you are a marine, they want you to look a certain way,” Lance Corporal Doucakis said. “I guess in a way they don’t want you to look like a disgrace to society.”

Ellie