Skirts no longer allowed in promotion photos

[thedrifter]

Skirts no longer allowed in promotion photos
By John Hoellwarth - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Sep 24, 2007 15:18:09 EDT

Female Marines may no longer wear skirts in their promotion photos under a policy change that went into effect immediately upon authorization by the Corps’ top personnel official, Lt. Gen. Ronald Coleman, according to a Sept. 17 Corps-wide message.

Under the previous policy, female Marines could choose between wearing the skirt or the slacks authorized for the service Charlie uniform in which all promotion photos are taken.

Eliminating the option of wearing a skirt also eliminates the option of wearing high-heeled shoes, since those shoes are authorized for wear only with the skirt, according to Marine Corps uniform regulations.

Ellie

[sparkie]

Good,,, I was worried about my beyond middle age spread, anyway.

[sparkie]

The world amazes me still,,,,,,,, Why is this a sticky? Pants too tight?

[Phantom Blooper]

A waist of good leg....sometime those skirts went all the way to the school house.Especially with a re-up bonus. :banana:


Sorta like politicians...someone in the head shack in DC gets paid for thinking up this stuff.


:evilgrin:

[thedrifter]

You Marines amaze me...:D

Chuck, your saying is what Mark said....;)

Ellie

[Marine84]

That's funny....................just as long as we can still wear the blouse untucked and tailored to our curves.

[sparkie]

Curves still at attention,,, or at Parade Rest?

[Phantom Blooper]

You Marines amaze me...:D

Sometimes we amaze ourselves.....:banana:




can still wear the blouse untucked and tailored to our curves.



Knockers up girls.....Follow Me!!!!:banana:

[One4Eddy]

Personally, it doesn't matter to me either way. But just curious, anyone know why they felt the need to make the change in the first place?

[OLE SARG]

Some ******* general didn't have anything to do on his day shift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[jetdoc]

Wish the female Marines could wear mini-skirts, SWEET!!

[PamPrentiss]

Why is it always a man who dictates a woman's "best interest". Military or civilian it always appears to be the same. Maybe it is because they cannot wear heels? ;)

Pam

[thewookie]

Why is it always a man who dictates a woman's "best interest". Military or civilian it always appears to be the same. Maybe it is because they cannot wear heels? ;)

Pam

Because it's a man's world Lieutenant, kindly fill out your profile please. And if a man wants to wear heels then he's called queer in my book. Semper Fi, Ma'am

[bootlace15]

hey wook,am I seeing Lt bars on an E-1 rank. WTF....... Not another one.

bootlace15 out

[Sheila Hays]

I was in the Marine Corps from 1959-1962, I wish we had the option of wearing a skirt or utilities. We didn't have slacks or cammies, I reached the rank of Corporal. We always wore winters or summers with heels. We wore those ugly tie shoes we had to constantly spit shine. Just my opinion. Semper Fi LadyM59

[cpl liz]

A few years ago after a parade a woman asked me if I was in during the 70's (I was). She said she knew it 'cuz my skirt was a "mini". Actually I had put on a few lbs & my big ass had hiked it up a few more inches. LOL

[SGT7477]

That is a good one liz,lol.

[Sheila Hays]

I only weighed 113lbs., finally gained enough to fill out the uniform at 119lbs. I'm 5'3 inches tall, those tacos at the EM club did wonders. I now have a big butt, wish I could lose 10lbs. I'm all boobs and butt, thats what happens as you get older. Besides you Marines have great looking uniforms now, but our covers are still the same. I really liked our winters with the red braid on the covers. Semper fi, LadyM59

[SlingerDun]

what are you dogs doing in over here the ladies dressing roomhttp://www.leatherneck.com/forums/images/icons/icon11.gif

[sparkie]

Finally got the old 8mm charged and ready for action,,,,,smile.

[Phantom Blooper]

I never had the chance to wear a skirt, that make me sad...



Me too! :beer:



Finally got the old 8mm charged and ready for action,,,,,smile.


Technology...gotta love it!:p


:evilgrin:

[sparkie]

of this thread from a mans perspective, but having diffuculties. Pictures would be a great help, please. :cool:

[Sempersweet]

When it comes to Women Marines uniforms, You've come a long way baby!
Up until the late 70's woman Marines' final act in boot camp was to give a tea party to higher ups. They were expected to serve tea, mix and socialize with poise and dignity in their little pin stripe uniforms more affectionately called "candy stripes". I was not in at this time, but still have the "filler" photos in my bootcamp book, along with the hideous blue PT uniforms. In the early 80's, the powers that be began intergrating women into non conventional MOSs. This was not an easy transition for many Marines, male or female. At the time I went through boot camp, women only FAM fired the M-16 for one day. Even the drill instructors were not that familiar with the rifle, having only shot it during DI school. When I had recieved the MOS 2111, small arms repair, (open contract), my drill instructors did not even know what that MOS was, believing perhaps that it might have been something medical. I showed up to school asking what exactly I was supposed to be at the end of school.
So back to the uniforms. I'm glad they give women the choice. In truth, to limit a woman Marine to only the skirt was sexist, and not consistent with the hard working physically active professionals that they really are. It conciously or subconciously created a difference between their peers, and while no one is saying there are not differences (thank God), professionally speaking, except for the combat duty, women Marines are capable of and very often do, meet or exceed equally with their male brothers.
So I say kudos to the Corps for the change! It's about time =)

[shilore]

Thank god I found this thread. I was getting ready to take my skirt to get altered so I can go to Combat Camera and get my pics taken... phew! I dont like wearing skirts... :)

[jetdoc]

A few years ago after a parade a woman asked me if I was in during the 70's (I was). She said she knew it 'cuz my skirt was a "mini". Actually I had put on a few lbs & my big ass had hiked it up a few more inches. LOL

Depends on which was your booty has grown....outwars or sideways, :D

[sparkie]

8 to 80,,,,,,, I can't afford to reject a view. It would not be good for my inner person.

[Old Marine]

I only weighed 113lbs., finally gained enough to fill out the uniform at 119lbs. I'm 5'3 inches tall, those tacos at the EM club did wonders. I now have a big butt, wish I could lose 10lbs. I'm all boobs and butt, thats what happens as you get older. Besides you Marines have great looking uniforms now, but our covers are still the same. I really liked our winters with the red braid on the covers. Semper fi, LadyM59

I knew it. Hence the term BAM. Thank god the Marine Crops still has GySgts to keep it on the straight and narrow path. We all get a little bigger in the butt area as we age, but I guess its better to be built for comfort than speed.

[sparkie]

I knew it. Hence the term BAM. Thank god the Marine Crops still has GySgts to keep it on the straight and narrow path. We all get a little bigger in the butt area as we age, but I guess its better to be built for comfort than speed.


Methinks BAM is no longer tolerated........ [In the progression of time, something cute turned ugly].

Or, perhaps, redirect it, like, Beautiful American Marine,,,,, Bewitching Associate Madam,,,,,,, Blessed Avenging Momma,,,,, You get the point. :beer:

[Old Marine]

Methinks BAM is no longer tolerated........ [In the progression of time, something cute turned ugly].

Or, perhaps, redirect it, like, Beautiful American Marine,,,,, Bewitching Associate Madam,,,,,,, Blessed Avenging Momma,,,,, You get the point. :beer:

When you follow one down the passage way and think you are behind a 6X6, you call them like you see them. Like it or not.

[sparkie]

When you follow one down the passage way and think you are behind a 6X6, you call them like you see them. Like it or not.


OOh Ra, Marine.........:beer:

[Marine84]

Sorry Ms Sheila - Old Marine got ya! ;)

And, believe it or not, WM isn't used (much) with this generation going through now. Some bonehead somewhere must have called one a walking mattress and p!$$ed em all off.

I, for one, could give a fat baby's a$$ less what I'm called - I'm a Woman Marine! NOBODY can take it away from me no matter what they call me.

[Sheila Hays]

I was in the Corps before you were born, I am a Marine and will always be. Old Marine has not got the best of me yet. I respect the rank he has, but not his way of thinking. So Marine84, we Women Marines always stick together. We are all sisters, so if you want to take the Gunny on, be my guest. I'll send over some of my sisters to straighten him out. No-one can take my title away from me either. :)Semper Fi LadyM59 Sheila Hays

[Old Marine]

I was in the Corps before you were born, I am a Marine and will always be. Old Marine has not got the best of me yet. I respect the rank he has, but not his way of thinking. So Marine84, we Women Marines always stick together. We are all sisters, so if you want to take the Gunny on, be my guest. I'll send over some of my sisters to straighten him out. No-one can take my title away from me either. :)Semper Fi LadyM59 Sheila Hays

Make sure that when you send your sisters, don't send them lake a cabbage, all head and no azz (which I am sure you can find some with big booty). Is the title you are talking about "BAM."

[sparkie]

Good thing you live in Nevada,,,,, Plenty of places to hide out here. :beer:

[jetdoc]

Depends on which was your booty has grown....outwars or sideways, :D
Boy did I butcher that one....didn't even notice until just now when re-reading this thread....I meant to say, "depends on which WAY your booty has grown, OUTWARDS or sideways".

[Marine84]

We knew what you meant jetdoc

[sparkie]

Open mouth,,,, Insert foot,,,,,

[ssgtbam]

OH my! I remember the Tea Party! We were to learn how to interact with the Officer's Wives, if I recall! And, the M-16 was something that the WMs had to go to the Armory to clean after the males came back from the Range, but we were not allowed to go to the range ourselves! I was on Active Duty from 79-81 (pregnancy cut short my time) then went back in (only could get into the Reserves at the time with three kiddos) and the first thing they wanted me to do was go to a "weekend range" for qualifying. They did not believe me that I did not know how to fire the dang thing, but I could sure break it down and make it clean and happy! LOL! I did not do that well the first time out, but ended up doing well. Also did great on the pistol range. But my all time favorite is the 50cc Machine Gun out of the side of a Helicopter! (I remember thinking "wonder what the early WMs would think if they knew that we would ever get to do THIS!" LOL!
As far as the uniform changes for pictures, I have no problem with making them "competitive" and "uniform" with the male Marines, but have to say, I always looked much better in my skirt and pumps than the slacks and oxfords (YUCK)! (When I was in Boot Camp, they said "you are a lady first, then a Marine!" Some changes are really big ones, huh?

[Gary Hall]

All of life's pleasant occurences slowly going away or being replaced with some thing less appreciated. Gung Ho, Gary Hall

[Sgt Petzold]

I think that they should push that females in the Marine Corps SHOULD be ladies.... being ladies first is better than not being ladies at all.. I've seen some trains run on WMs and some STDs get passed around as well...

Some of the WMs join just for the guys, and don't know how to be ladies at all. Some dignity should be taught to the WMs not just how to try to keep up with the boys.

[jarheadlady]

And some men need to be taught how to be gentlemen and not as*holes as well.

[Ed Palmer]

And some men need to be taught how to be gentlemen and not as*holes as well.

HEY I resemble that remark

[Sgt Petzold]

gunny... I'm hoping you're not talking about me... 'cause I attempt to be gentlemanlike....

Having a daughter now, I have changed my views of WMs... Some are outstanding Marines and excellent women... however, those few who do those aforementioned acts really sully WMs reputation and make it even harder for females to prove themselves in the military.

Jessica lynch for example (Army I know) gets national attention for being a 'hero' but then you find out she didn't know how to maintain her weapon in the AO, she ran away before getting captured and photos of her and her fellow females in her platoon all topless posing for a keepsake.... yeah that's honorable.

[jarheadlady]

Ssgt.. please do not try to tell me about women Marines and their reputations. If you read my signature, I was born into the Corps, my father being a retired SgtMaj. I know more women Marines and Marines.. have seen more bases and places than most. So my entire 1/2 of a century of existance has been "in the Corps". I now see it through my active duty sons eyes. I know all too well how difficult it is for women to be treated equally. I also know how difficult it is when male Marines look at female Marines and lump them all into the same pot. I was pregnant with my son, had been in 6 or 7 years by then, working on my next reenlistment package and had a Master Guns tell me I was not fit to be an NCO (I was a Sgt) in HIS Marine Corps. My pros/cons were never lower than a 4.7.. EVER and this dic*wipe wants to buck up to me??????

I could go on all day and if anyone is interested in a career Marines take on women in the Corps, lets talk in the Marines only section. I'd hate for anyone but Marines to hear what I have to say.

[ronr418]

Tell us how you really feel Jarheadlady.

[Sempersweet]

"I've seen some trains run on WMs and some STDs get passed around as well..."

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.. please pick a number ..
1) you were in a situation where you saw a woman having sex with multiple partners and were not invited to participate .. for whatever reason..
2) you did participate and got a venereal disease from one of the participating parties..
3) you consider her having sex with multiple partners "unlady like" although you were obviously there as well..
4) consider her act "behavior unbecoming" for a Marine in general.. in which case any Marine who ever made port in Subic Bay or befriended the locals on Court Street, Tiajuana, or "the stage" in Okinawa, should also be held to the same standard..
For the record, I don't condone that type of behavior in men or women. Could those behaviors to not enjoy sex with multiple partners be taught in boot camp? If it could it obviously isn't working any better for the male Marine than the female.
You consider her behavior unladylike, but I think your behavior was equally disgusting by being there participating or not.