Vietnam Memorial Wall Defaced

[badbob]

I can't seem to find any main stream media reporting on the defacing of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in DC over this past weekend.

It would appear that the damage is permanent, probably an acid.

The vandals are left wing freaks and certainly not Americans.

I personally fought and lost blood in that war. 25 of the names on that Wall were friends,.

it's not only a crime, it's a disgrace to deface a memorial dedicated to those who gave their lives for our country.

I can't frame into words the negative effect this incident is having on me and my fellow Veterans who are aware of the incident.

I've been depressed since I read the articles on the internet yesterday morning, and am more depressed today, my PTSD has really kicked in.

Americans need to get it together, the radical LEFT is propagating our destruction.

If it's a fight they wany, it's a fight they will be getting.

There are many Veterans heading to DC this weekend, The Mission “To Protect the Wall”.

Cindy Sheehan’s group has gone way too far this time, and it needs to stop, right here and right now.

This one is going to get ugly.

Semper Fi,

Bob Neener
SGT USMC, Vietnam 1965-1966

[thedrifter]

:mad:

No Respect anymore!

Ellie

[sparkie]

I have known since It was put up that I could never go and see it. My reverance is too great. Now you tell me there is true evil that would do such as that. In tears I must Protest. My war is not over, NEVER. God help me.

[bootlace15]

if the person or persons are found that did this to our Memorial,they should die for their cause,as did the brave men and women displayed on Our Wall died for everyones cause. The freedom we faught for has now ended,the Scumbag mother ****ers. My brother John Miller's name is on Our Wall. Not a day goes by that I don't think about him or his family. Those rotten bastards that destroyed Our wall Shall Never Be Forgiven,The Son Of A *****es!!!!!!!!!! **** THEM and the horse they rode in on.............
bootlace15 out

[sparkie]

The "Wall" has been defaced! Is this the legacy of the Anti-war crowd? Where is the respect?Some one has defaced the “Wall” just days before a “Big Anti-war rally”.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news... (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1893742/posts)

A group of veterans and their families (Gathering of eagles, move america forward, Rolling thunder, etc...) had gone to protect the Wall from groups they knew wanted to deface the wall during the protests, but the scum beat them there.

Is this really the “anti-war” mindset?

Destroy! Attack! Violate!

Huh… I thought only the “Pro-war” people were the evil, destructive and hateful ones who are disrespecting our troops and their sacrifices.

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: HANOI-JANE NEED'S A PINT OF ACID THROWN IN HER FUCING FACE :sick:

[sparkie]

Call us up Fist. I stand ready.

[Marine84]

All I can come up with is WOW! That's pitiful when somebody stoops THAT low and has NO respect at all!

[bucksgted]

I was not in Nam, but I too have brothers on The Wall. For those that have never been there and for those that have, I offer this pic I took in '04. I met Doc that morning during the staging for Rolling Thunder. He is playing Amazing Grace and I will openly admit that I totally lost it, that day, at that place.

Semper Fidelis, Brothers! Rest in Peace!

Ed

[sparkie]

You Aint that old brother.... never forget.

[badbob]

The Wall has always been a very difficult trip for me to make. I’ve been there on 3 occasions over the past 20 years, and every time I have had to force my outer self to stand tall, when I’m crumbling inside.

This was an act of desecration against all Veterans, of all wars.

These despicable low life’s who did this do not deserve the life we so dearly protected with ours.

Semper Fi,
Bob Out - By the way, alcohol doesn’t help

[semperfi170]

I spent my time in Nam serving Country and Corps. Afterwards I sent my donation to help have the Wall build to honor the men and women who died serving our great country. But where do these lower than whale sh*t slimeballs get the idea they have the right to dishonor us and those who died in the service of our country? I can think of multitude of punsihments (torture) I would like to see done to these turds if they are caught. Maybe we can hire former NVA & Cong torturers to inflict the big hurt on them. :evilgrin:

It is a lack of respect and morals that were never nproperly instilled and enforced in those that did the defacing. I didn't serve to protect their right to destroy and/or deface private and public property. Jail in this country is too good for them.:mad:

[SkilletsUSMC]

To My Brother Marines who served in Vietnam.

In my eyes this type of attitude is the begining of a civil war, and I for one will take pleasure in "paying back" these punk pieces of ****.

[Scottyva]

I had two uncles go to Nam. One was in the Corps and the other was career Air Force. His plane went down in Cam Ranh Bay when i was a toddler and his name is on the Wall.

I joined this elite Fraternity back in 1984 and to hear that this happened has angered me.

[grizzly]

I was too young for 'nam but I remember as a kid seeing Walter Cronkite night after night reporting and bringing footage of the days events to the nation.I am 46 now,but I was brought up that regardless of the fact of whether or not you disagree a particular thought or policy there still needs to be respect for others.At this point I find the actions to be cowardly,in that someone(s) would go and deface a memorial of this stature,I have a cousin who served in 'nam and all the vets ever wanted when they came home was respect as a citizen that answered the call when Uncle Sam drafted them.You did'nt have to agree with the cause.I think that if the so called dissenters wanted to make a point then they ought not hide like cowards.Many times in my life I choose to march to the beat of a different drummer,because I did'nt believe in the cause at hand,even when the masses were,and I was chastised time and again,by others who thought it simpler to just give the lip service,than suffer the consequences of dissent,but I would'nt do it because I had to respect myself and not be a traitor to my ideals.I was labeled bullheaded,stubborn,anti-social etc... as a result.Thats what this wall gave me was that right and as a vet I take personal offense at the knotheads who chose to disgrace their own ideas by vandalizing this revered place. BOIL THEM IN OIL :mad: SEMPER FI SkilletsUSMC I want to help ya. I am greatly saddened by these events as well as P.O.'d

[Ron60]

I have a lot of friends on that wall...I hope they catch whoever is responsible and put them away for awhile !!! Its hard to believe that anyone could be that pathetic !!!!

[badbob]

If you live in or near the DC area, you may want to check out Gathering of Eagles (GOE)
http://www.gatheringofeagles.org

The GOE mission was to get a group of Veterans together in DC to protect the Wall from the protest planned by Cindy Sheehan and Jane Fonda back in March. Can you believe that they actually planned to protest at the wall ?????????? –

This is the same group that defaced the steps of the Capitol building in February, so it was conceivable that they would try the same at the Wall.

Gathering of Eagles were able mass 33,000 Veterans that weekend in March and the Wall was untouched, Jane Fonda and Cindy Sheehan never even showed up.

There is another Gathering of Eagles this weekend, tell your friends, we need all the help we can get.

GOE was started earlier this year by a retired Gunny by the name of Larry Hoffa, I served in Nam with his brother Tom in 1965-1966, Larry served in Nam in 1968


Semper Fi,
Bob Neener
Vietnam 1965-1966

[thedrifter]

http://inlinethumb13.webshots.com/15948/2205524710034025881S600x600Q85.jpg

he names along the lower part of The Wall appear to have taken the brunt of the damage.


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oily substance

video
http://eaglesup.us/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=126

more pix's

http://eaglesup.us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=69&Itemid=104

Ellie

[yellowwing]

Who is this that tries to dishonor our faceless heros? Everyday ordinary Americans we called Friend and Brother. Their faith in us made them extraordinary.

All good men to the last. We are in their debt.

[bigdog43701]

ok guys...this has done ****ed me off to no end...the LEFT has declared war on us and all who served across the pond. sheeham, fonda and kerry are all *******s who need their ass kicked and i'm going to the front of the line to start kicking.

[badbob]

So anti-war crowd, how about showing us how much you really do care about our soldiers at war, and turn over the jerks who defaced the wall?

No, that’s asking for too much from these Cowards,

This how they show their love for our Troops, they P*SS on our Wall of Hero’s.

This is Vietnam all over again.

Still no Main Stream Media Coverage as of 0845 today ?????

Semper Fi,
Bob Neener
Vietnam 1965-1966

[CplCrotty]

They just crossed the line.

[jinelson]

By SkilletsUSMC - To My Brother Marines who served in Vietnam.
In my eyes this type of attitude is the begining of a civil war, and I for one will take pleasure in "paying back" these punk pieces of ****.

I agree bro and thank you. I thought that I was the only one that thought that way.

Jim

[jetdawgg]

This type of behavior is utter garbage and the perps need to be caught and maimed. I have been to the wall several times including May of this year.

Always a haunting, chilling, sober, experience. I don''t agree with the politics of the war in Iraq, but I certainly don't agree with the extremists who have defaced The Wall:usmc:

[erased]

I've got to agree with Jet on this. Defacing a memorial of any kind is disrespectful, but this is outright disgusting and vile. I've only seen the wall once. It was at night and people had their kids running all around it, climbing on it (like seems the norm at any memorial I've been to). I had to tell myself 100 times to just let it go. Even my wife could see my irritation.

That being said, to lump the entire "anti-war crowd" and further the entire "left" with these scumbags is irresponsible at best. I am strongly against this war, but I'd catch a plane from San Diego to DC today if it meant I could strangle whoever did this.

[kbs95125]

I know under the rules of this site, Poolees are not supposed to post in this forum, but I would like to send my regards out to every Marine and Armed Forces service member that has put in more then just a name into this memorial. I could never understand what it is like. I am truly sorry that anybody could find the ability to do such a disrespectful thing to those who sacrificed everything and those who God let continue on in life. I'm sorry you must bear that burden, but greatly appreciate that you do.

I also would like to request that if anybody has any information about how to donate towards repairs, if they could PM me or maybe post a thread in the Poolee forum so others who feel inclined to do so can donate as well. I have sent out an email to a website that contained a large amount of information on the Wall about this and hope they can point me in the right direction if nobody here has any information.

Thank You :flag:

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: CRACKING A MUTHA-FUCER,IN THE HEAD HAS CHANGED A LEFTEST ATTITUDE MORE THAN ONCE!BELIEVE ME I GREW UP ON THE MEAN STREET'S OF D.C.!!!WE USED TO GET OFF OF THROWING PROTESTING BASTARD'S OFF OF KEY BRIDGE,BUT I'M NOT ADMITTING TO ANY MURDERS THOUGH???:evilgrin:

[Accord]

God damn cowards. Anytime a memorial is defaced or anything of this sort, it's always under the cover of darkness at night when no one is around. I would have liked to see them do it during daylight hours when people were around, guaranteed there would have been at least a Marine or two there and the scum would be in intensive care right now.

These radical leftist jackasses are scum in every sense of the word.

[gwladgarwr]

Why are folks such common trash to do something like that? I don't know if I'm more mad or have more pity for sad individuals who only want to tear things down instead of building things up.

Why is this now an act committed by 'left-wing kooks'? If ANYONE does something like this, is he automatically "leftish trash"? It could have been some spoiled and selfish high school punks raised by parents who give up their responsibility to bring up their children right. When someone holds a late-night cross-burning on someone's front lawn, is that a 'right-wing' fascist act (well, IMO - yes, but it could be a frathouse prank gone too far, too.)

Where were the park police during all this? Why aren't there surveillance cameras mounted around the monument? ($$$$, I guess.)

I can't wait for the rat who squeals on the piece of trash who did it. The fool will have to enter the WPP once he gets out of jail - that is, IF he makes it out of jail alive.

A person who has to sneak under the cover of darkness and deface a living monument and besmear the memory and honor of those who made the ultimate sacrifice is nothing more than a coward. He could not face you or me - or an enemy in battle - in broad daylight and man up to what he believes in. He will passively-agressively attack you, your loved ones, and everything you believe in but won't step to - like a true man and a true warrior.

Don't worry about the damage to the Wall - the panels can be replaced and the memory and the honor of those names that took the damage will remain intact. I can't say much for the ****ant little nobody who will eventually have his ears and liver trade places.

In fact, I think they should leave the damaged panel up for a while - and maybe place them in the Smithsonian - to show the world just how slimy the enemies of patriotism are.

The hijackers and the horror they produced on 9/11/01 is hard enough, but they worry me just as much as the enemy within (the Wall vandalizer.)

However, those patriots whose names are engraved upon the Wall have already been spit upon once by an ungrateful nation and the rest of the world; a second time is just too much.

We are at war: with the evil forces of fundamentalist Islam who seek to destroy freedom and democracy and with those from within who agree with them. We've already declared huntin' season on the one; maybe it's time to announce 'hunting season' on the other. 'Enemies foreign and domestic', y'know.

Sgt gw:iwo:

[marinegreen]

If these sorry no-good pieces of whale sh*T can deface "THE WALL" then Arlington needs to tighten there security. Hopefully GOD will see fit to punish these responsible for such senseless actions !! If caught they should be paraded up and down the DC streets wearing signs that says; "WE are weak people,we arent strong enough for confrontation so we'll be sneaky just like the terrorist we are"

[badbob]

The update on the damage assessment isn’t good.

Looks like it was some sort of an acid was used, and two panels will have to be replaced, several names are now unreadable.

The reason we believe that it was Left Wing Pinko Commie Bastards that did this, is because approximately 10 days ago Eaglesup.us was contacted by the Cindy Sheehan group and were told that if any Vietnam Veterans show up this coming weekend while they are protesting as the Capitol, “The Vietnam Wall will be sprayed”

You can read all about this at http://www.eaglesup.us/

By the way, I am told by an insider sat eaglesup,us that there expecting upwards of 100,000 Veterans to show up in DC this weekend.

The Wall is going to be well protected this weekend.

Semper Fi,
Bob Neener
Vietnam 1965-1966

[yellowwing]

Vietnam Veteran's Memorial Wall (http://thewall-usa.com/index.asp) web site.

"If you are able, save for them a place inside of you and save one backward glance when you are leaving for the places they can no longer go.

Be not ashamed to say you loved them, though you may or may not have always. Take what they have taught you with their dying and keep it with your own.

And in that time when men decide and feel safe to call the war insane, take one moment to embrace those gentle heroes you left behind.

Major Michael Davis O'Donnell
1 January 1970
Dak To, Vietnam
Listed as KIA February 7, 1978

[erased]

The reason we believe that it was Left Wing Pinko Commie Bastards that did this, is because approximately 10 days ago Eaglesup.us was contacted by the Cindy Sheehan group and were told that if any Vietnam Veterans show up this coming weekend while they are protesting as the Capitol, “The Vietnam Wall will be sprayed”

You can read all about this at http://www.eaglesup.us/

Semper Fi,
Bob Neener
Vietnam 1965-1966

I looked briefly on that site for such a threat, but didn't find one. Could you post a direct link?

[badbob]

On March 18, 2007, Tevah Platt reported in New York's Staten Island Advance:

"Though organizers of the peace demonstrations said they respected the Vietnam Memorial, the Eagles' national organizer, Kristinn Taylor, claimed he knew of threats indicating the site might be vandalized by radicals. That fear spread quickly among veterans' groups on the Internet and roused many to travel the Washington seeking to protect it."

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Gathering_of_Eagles:_Threat_to_dam age_the_Vietnam_Veterans_Wall

GOE is a coalition of veterans' groups and pro-military organizations that organizes counter-demonstrations during anti-war marches. Taylor said "there are incidents around the country of war memorials being ... vandalized" and pointed to apparent threats on a leftist/anarchist Web site to the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.

An Aug. 27 comment posted on the DC Indymedia Web site said that "if they [GOE] come to our march we will spray the wall." The comment was referring to an anti-war protest scheduled for Sept. 15. GOE has advertised that it will counter-protest.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200709/NAT20070911d.html

Click on these links for the full story.

I have personally spoken to a Retired Marine who today has had a first hand look at the damage.

His report is that (2) panels were damaged beyond repair, it was definitely an acid because it has permanently etched the granite and several names can no longer be read.

As of Yesterday the DC Police have had the case, they also have a Surveillance video tape provided by the Park Police, so this should all come out in the open soon.


Semper Fi,
Bob Neener
Vietnam 1965-1966

[Scottyva]

Brothers and Sisters in the Corps:

The Washington Times covered the story yesterday the link is at:
www.washingtontimes.com/article/20070911/METRO/109110043/1004

[SlingerDun]

It appears as though it could be repaired. If not an expensive section replacement.

Condolences to Vietnam Vets and those who were more than just a name on the wall. You took yet another hit.

--->Dave

[badbob]

On 5 Sept in Arkansas another Vietnam memorial was defaced

Re: Vitenam Memorial Desecrated


Vietnam Veterans Memorial defaced
Andover Townsman | Crystal Bozek and Michelle Morrissey September 05, 2007

Many veterans in town were disappointed to learn last week that someone had vandalized the town's Vietnam Veterans Memorial, requiring the 15-month-old memorial to be sandblasted Wednesday.

"We know that in no way does this reflect how the community feels about our veterans," said Michael Burke, director of veteran services.

The lyrics of a 1970s protest song and a reference to Iraq were scrawled on the monument in the Park. "War, what is it good for, absolutely nothin'," was written in red marker along with a peace sign.

The lyrics are from "War," a song that Motown soul singer Edwin Starr popularized in 1970.

Near the base of the memorial where the phrase "our cause is just" is etched, a vandal wrote "just like in Iraq."

The markings were made with some kind of felt marker, which soaked into the stone, Burke said yesterday. Methuen Monument is helping the town repair the memorial, which was dedicated May 29, 2006.

While there was no structural damage, "the stone does need to be sandblasted," Burke said. He was not sure how much the work would cost, if anything, but said the town was grateful to the Methuen business for stepping in to help.

Police Lt. Harry Collins said the vandalism was under investigation.

Burke said this week he has talked to several veterans and longtime residents, and that no one could remember something like this happening in Andover.

"This is a disappointing event," he said. "This is an anomaly. If someone does have opposition, there are other ways to vocalize that."

In Haverhill earlier this summer, vandals ruined parts of a Korean War Memorial and spray-painted a World War II monument.

There is an ugle connection here, this doesn't say much for our Scociaty.

I’m not sure why I fought for these bastards in the first place ?????.

Bob Neener

[BillJ]

I can not believe anyone could and would vandalize the VVMW. What cowards thoughtless and spineless. It is disrespectfull to all, whose names are on this memorial, including my older brother 40th anniversary on 8/27. Scumbags. It really infuriates me Semper FI Bill Johnson

[sgt tony]

OK Now are they no camera in that area? Also I will drive my as@ any where to do the same to them we do not need to let the police or courts handle this we need to 1st then if there is anthing left then the courts can have them. That War has now opened back up on they pieces of SHI!s.

[ericamarine]

This is indeed a sad sad thing to happen there is no respect any more for people who have fought for this nations rights and that is indeed sad.

freedom isn't free

[erased]

OK Now are they no camera in that area?

When I was there, there was a security guard posted. If I remember correctly, it was some time between 2330 and midnight. I don't know if they're supposed to be posted around the clock though.

[davblay]

To My Brother Marines who served in Vietnam.

In my eyes this type of attitude is the begining of a civil war, and I for one will take pleasure in "paying back" these punk pieces of ****.

Thank you my younger brother! I agree 100%! We Viet Nam vets appreciate kind words from you Gulf War Vets and Active duty personnel. But the praise should go to you guys, my brothers and sisters! :thumbup:

Semper Fi

[SkilletsUSMC]

This type of behavior is utter garbage and the perps need to be caught and maimed. I have been to the wall several times including May of this year.

Always a haunting, chilling, sober, experience. I don''t agree with the politics of the war in Iraq, but I certainly don't agree with the extremists who have defaced The Wall:usmc:

Jet.

It is very good to hear you say that.

[SkilletsUSMC]

Thank you my younger brother! I agree 100%! We Viet Nam vets appreciate kind words from you Gulf War Vets and Active duty personnel. But the praise should go to you guys, my brothers and sisters! :thumbup:

Semper Fi

in a wierd way I feel like we are all vets of the same war. The war for the soul of america.

Semper Fi.

[Cope]

Dont read this if you have high blood pressure or are prone to strokes

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2986492

[badbob]

The Navy memorial Defaced, however not damaged

A Pink Teara was placed on the head of the statute of a Sailor.

Looks like something the Squids do in their Shellback ceromonies when crossing the Equator

Compliments of CODE PINK - or is that CODE PINKO

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1894292/posts

Semper Fi,
Bob Neener

[jetdawgg]

Jet.

It is very good to hear you say that.

Marine, I am a Marine. I just happen to be against the war in Iraq. If I could catch those idiots I'd drag a them few miles down the road to Quantico for some old time Marine Corps Drilling.

I am sure that the Marines there would welcome them heartily:usmc:

[Bruce59]

I just knew it was a matter of time to something like this would happen. I would like to say that this is just an isolated incident, but I think not. Remember the protests at military funerals? The Wall is a special place, I have been there 4 times and each time it toughes a spot in my heart I can not explain in words. The Vietnam Vets have gone through enough of these kind of protests when they were in, they don't need anymore. The people that did this have gone after the wrong group of Vets. As Vets from all eras
will now stand together, the line has now been placed in the sand, enough is enough.

Bruce
http://wallofhonor.bravehost.com

[badbob]

Vietnam Veterans had a much different homecoming than did our previous war Veterans and we, the Vietnam Veterans are not going to all that to happen to our present day war veterans.

This is precisely why we are, and will be a voice at every peace demonstration, until the last Veteran returns home.

What happened at the wall this week still isn’t clear.

it’s still in the cleanup process and this leads me to believe that it was more than light oil, however the Park Department will no longer discuss the issue because of their “Ongoing Investigation” which also leads me to believe that this despicable act was much more than an accident.

I suspect that everyone is sitting on this story until after the anti war protest march, scheduled for this Saturday, which makes sense only if the act was actually vandalism.

Semper Fi
Bob Neener
Vietnam 1965-1966

[FistFu68]

:evilgrin: WHAT OTHER ERA' OF VETERAN'S BUILT THEIR OWN MEMORIAL? UNCLE SAMMY DIDN'T DO JACK-CHIT FOR US,SO WE AS BROTHERS BANDED TOGETHER AND SAID FUC YOU WE WILL BUILD OUR OWN.NOW OUR SON'S AND BROTHERS ARE OFF IN A FAR OFF LAND DOING WHAT IS RIGHT,AND WE THE VIETNAM VETERAN WILL NEVER LET ANY MUTHA FUCER;TRY AND PULL THE SAME CHICKEN CHIT,CRAP HAPPEN TOO ANY VETERAN OF ANY WAR AS LONG AS WE ARE STILL ALIVE!!!THEY REALLY ARE FUCING WITH THE WRONG MEN.:mad: SEMPER~FIDELIS :iwo:

[badbob]

:evilgrin: WE THE VIETNAM VETERAN WILL NEVER LET ANY MUTHA FUCER;TRY AND PULL THE SAME CHICKEN CHIT,CRAP HAPPEN TOO ANY VETERAN OF ANY WAR AS LONG AS WE ARE STILL ALIVE!!!THEY REALLY ARE FUCING WITH THE WRONG MEN.:mad: SEMPER~FIDELIS :iwo:

You got that right man,

Semper Fi Bro

Bob Out
and Alcohol still doesn't work - 3 days now and I can't sleep, it's like being on watch in the boonies, 1 hour on and 2 hours off, it's getting real old

[thedrifter]

Eagles Landing
by Col. George "Bud" Day (more by this author)
Posted 09/14/2007 ET

On September 15, in a scene that America’s enemies are hoping mimics similar events in the 60s and 70s, a coalition of anti-American amateur anarchists will descend on the nation’s capital attempting to convince the US Congress to surrender in the War on Terror.

They won’t know even know to whom they’d like us to surrender, nor what the terms of such a travesty might be. But their ilk didn’t care in the 70s and the new crowd doesn’t care now.

But this time, also flocking to the Capitol with a far greater sense of purpose, direction and duty, will be the Eagles: America’s veterans and pro-troop patriots. Just as they did on March 17, the Eagles again will deflect the hatred hurled at our military, the attempts to deface our memorials, and the political efforts to bully a shaky Congress into giving away the successes that have been earned through more than two centuries of democracy.
When the so-called Vietnam anti-war “movement” gained momentum, (and, as it turned out, was only an anti-American war), it succeeded in convincing Congress to abandon South Vietnam, just as South Vietnam was showing that it was well on its way to military and political stability. The resultant chaos cost the lives of millions of civilians who fell to the savagery of the communist onslaught.

Even though the phony peace movement was directly responsible for setting the stage for this holocaust, the blame was conveniently shifted by useful idiots in the media and Congress to the American military, which had performed magnificently despite a media blackout of our successes that was broken only by braying criticism of the military.
Those who claimed they stood for peace, John Kerry, Jane Fonda, Henry Kissinger, Ted Kennedy, John Murtha, stood by silently, feigning ignorance or non-involvement as the communist death squads tortured and murdered babies, the elderly, teachers, civil servants, police, college professors, and day workers by the millions in southeast Asia.
This could not have happened without help. The anti-American forces were aided and abetted by a media that was, and still is, a disgrace to the concept of First Amendment rights to freedom of the press.

The media, starting with Walter Cronkite who blatantly lied to America after our forces won an overwhelmingly victory against the communists in the Tet Offensive of 1968, was more than complicit in falsely portraying America’s military as incompetent on one hand or murderous thugs on theother. Cronkite was only the most visible media co-conspirator. But the rest of the American media trotted alongside like lemmings, just as the modern media is doing today.

Meanwhile mindless strumpets like Jane Fonda who had spent the 1960s touring college campuses touting the false promise of worldwide communism were allowed to cavort in enemy country with impunity, striving to negatively impact troop morale, wreaking havoc with American prisoners of war, and delivering political victory to an enemy that had been devastated on the battlefield.

In the end, Southeast Asia was lost, millions died, hundreds of American POWs known to be alive and held by the communists in Laos, were abandoned, and America’s standing in the world took a hit that was so disastrous we still are feeling its effects to this day.
The outcome does not have to be the same as it was three decades ago. As America fights against Islamic terrorists and the nations that support them, we dare not allow the anti-American creeps who pass themselves off as “anti-war” to win. In Vietnam we lost a war and millions died, but the war didn’t come back to America. This one will, so we have to win it here, in Congress and in the media, so our forces can win it abroad.
Tomorrow, September 15 , the “ANSWER” group -- funded by the usual left-wingers, arrives in Washington to stage demonstrations including a “die-in” in which -- without the permission of the families of our war dead -- they will pretend to die while holding signs and placards labeling themselves with names of our combat dead. And it will go on from there. But unlike 1971, this time they will not be coming to town alone.

When they arrive in DC, these phonies will again face massed pro-troop Americans who will gather as Eagles did so successfully on March 17, and again we will show that those who would tear down and destroy America are but a flock of haters, a mere whisper in a wind tunnel, compared to the tornado of the Eagles.

Groups bringing pro-troop patriots to DC on Sept. 15 including Eagles Landing; Move America Forward which is hosting a nationwide caravan of families and supporters starting in California on Labor Day, Sept. 3, and arriving in DC on the 15th; Military Order of the Purple Heart; Gathering of Eagles; Free Republic; and Vets For Freedom; among many others.

But for all the efforts of these fine organizations, the true test of America’s willpower, its dedication to our shared values and principles, and its willingness to take the War on Terror to the terrorists, lies with mainstream Americans. America’s veterans, our true warriors, not phonies who doctor their service records and award themselves medals for non-existent acts of valor, will stand tall, as they always do.

If Congress is to bend to the will of the people, which our Constitution says it must, then the will of the people must be shown, loudly and clearly, and most importantly, in person. This must be accomplished by the participation of mainstream America, because we all have a stake in this -- our lives, and continuing freedom for future generations. Come to Washington. Join us.

Ellie

[thedrifter]

DC Gathering Has Higher Purpose
by Col. Harry G. Riley (more by this author)
Posted 09/14/2007 ET


The arrangements are nearly complete: the word is out and the streets of Washington, D.C. will be lined with patriots Saturday, protecting our monuments from further defacement, supporting our troops, and demanding victory, not surrender, in the War on Terror.

There will be anti-troop forces there to be sure, but they will NOT own the streets. The anarchist supporting group ANSWER is working to further embarrass our country by filling the streets with brainless protesters who want to overthrow our government and destroy our way of life.

But, as we did last March, there will be a visible, vocal and effective counter-presence on the streets too. We will be there to remind our unspeakably uninformed members of Congress who probably don’t even realize how badly they embarrassed themselves during questioning of Gen. David Petraeus earlier this week, that the majority of Americans support the troops and understand that there is no alternative to victory in this war.

Groups bringing pro-troop patriots to DC on Sept. 15 including Eagles Landing – www.Eaglesup.us; Move America Forward which is hosting an wildly successful nationwide caravan of families and supporters that will be in DC for the events on the 15th – www.moveamericaforward.org; Military Order of the Purple Heart – www.purpleheart.org; Gathering of Eagles – www.gatheringofeagles.org; Free Republic – www.freerepublic.com; and Vets For Freedom – www.vetsforfreedom.org; among many others.

These organizations and the millions of Americans who support their positions are showing that the majority of us are dedicated to the values and principles espoused by our founding fathers, not the destruction of our country. We want to take the War on Terror right to the terrorists’ doorsteps and eliminate their threat to us, and to the world in general.

We understand that the impetus for opposing the lies and misinformation used by ANSWER and its amen chorus in Congress rests on America’s veterans: after all, we are the ones who have always been there when our country is in peril. We will stand tall, we always do, but as in March we will be joined by legions of supporters from all facets of the American experience.

We have a message to send to Congress. We want these jokers to know that they may have to bootlick the left-wing extremists who rule their party if they want to continue to be nominated to retain their jobs, but the final word rests with the American voters and we are not happy with them.

Obviously, many Senators and Congressmen have forgotten or choose to ignore the basic truth of our Constitution, that this country represents government BY and FOR THE PEOPLE, not some self-anointed new aristocracy. Our Constitution is quite clear in outlining how our country works, but many in Congress, as evidenced by their reprehensible behavior earlier this week have shown that they believe they are above the Constitution, and obviously above mainstream Americans.

This, coupled with the reprehensible defacement of the Vietnam War Memorial last week, represents irrefutable proof that the left-wing crazies are out of control and engaged in a frenzy of destruction. Their behavior shows without doubt that the rest of us must stand up and we must stand up now.

We have to make it clear that we will never again allow our military to win all the battles only to have politicians sabotage their sacrifices and victories. We can never again stand idly by as mainstream America did in the 70s and sentence allies who trusted and believed in us to torture, death and enslavement as occurred in Southeast Asia.

We must make it clear that there is no possibility for surrender in this war, because to do so means we will be the ones tortured, killed or enslaved. There will be no haven for members of Congress if they continue on this path to self-destruction.

There will be no cavalry to ride in at the last minute and save them even as millions of mainstream Americans are sacrificed. Members of Congress must understand that if they continue on the course they advocate, this time they will be among the first to face arrest and execution, just as they sentenced millions to arrest and execution in the 70s.

The conduct of many in Congress this week shows that they are horribly out of touch with mainstream America and totally in denial about the nature of the enemy our troops are fighting. Thus, on Saturday, we must stand tall, all of us, because all of us will exult in victory, or suffer horribly in defeat.

Ellie

[jahhead88]

Darn right. You don't rile up a bunch of Marines and not expect a fight.

[jahhead88]

Oohrah. I hope they prosecute who did this to the fullest extent of the law. There's no excuse for what was done. And if Cindy Sheehan was behind this, cripes that just shows how pathetic she is. I'm amazed at the stupidity of these liberal idiots.

Jane Fonda, was dumbfounded when she couldn't see any of her products on Marine bases.

If I understand liberal logic; or the lack thereof. I can call you names, deface what you hold sacred, and I'm exercise free speech. However, if you disagree with me, your a closed minded bigot, and if you dare deface what I hold sacred, I'm calling the police.

Let me know what I can do to help this effort, whether it's a fund raiser to repair the wall, making a donation. I'm not going to sit on the sidelines for this one.

[CHOPPER7199]

Sounds like a thump call is in order.

[jahhead88]

You're right, it could have been a punk kid whose parents are avoiding responsibility. However, thanks to the liberal establishment. This kid may have been suffering from a low self esteem, and was doing what he was doing to get his mothers attention for a lack of love.

I don't know if it was someone from a liberal extremist group or some kid thinking he was a hard a**. What I do know is that whoever did this, has stirred up a hornet's nest, and I'm one of the hornets. The wall has to be protected.

[yellowwing]

It looks like those anti-war protesters will be met by Veterans with short fuses. Will our Crew be covering the Iwo Jima Memorial also?

[jahhead88]

A Korean and a World War Two Memorial vandalized? That's a double ouch for me, my dad fought in World War Two with the 1090th Engineering Battalion. My grandfather was in the Army in the Pacific Theatre, and my late uncle survived a kamikaze attack during the battle of Okinawa.

People need to start writing their congressman or senators and put enough pressure on people to get something done. Maybe, I'm delusional but there's no excuse for this. The thing of it is though, if you vandalize anything belonging to the criminal trash that commits these acts, they're all ready to fight.

Jahhead88

[thedrifter]

Damaged Vietnam Memorial Has Park Service Walking on Eggshells
by Ronald Winter (more by this author)
Posted 09/14/2007 ET
Updated 09/14/2007 ET

Last Friday evening an oily substance that has proved extremely difficult to remove was splattered along an approximately 60 foot section of the wall, defacing panels bearing the names of the deceased as well as ornamental stones along the base. Mainstream media coverage has been sparse.

Veterans immediately attributed the defacement to anti-war groups that have threatened the memorial in past months, have defaced monuments and memorials nationwide, and are gathering in Washington this weekend to protest the War on Terror.

The outrage in the veteran community is palpable. In apparent fear of vets’ reaction, some who sympathize with the anti-war group ANSWER (which is coordinating this weekend’s protests) have issued bogus news releases stating that there was no damage to The Wall. This led some veterans to speculate that ANSWER is hoping to convince veterans to avoid Washington this weekend.

Nonetheless, the Park Service has stopped short of labeling the incident as vandalism.

“The United States Park Police is investigating the matter. Until this investigation is completed, it is premature to speculate whether any intentional act was committed,” is the official statement.

Bill Line, NPS Communications & Tourism Officer for the National Capital Region adds that although crews have been working since Saturday to remove the substance, they don’t even know what it is, much less who splattered it on the memorial.

But one thing is certain. Despite the claims that were later retracted when discrepancies were noted, the incident most certainly does NOT appear to have been caused by an accidental spill of cleaning fluid by a park ranger. Park rangers are not involved in cleaning or maintenance of the memorial, Line confirmed.

The Park Service is hopeful, but not certain, that when the material is finally removed it will not have left any permanent damage.

Line says The Wall is constantly monitored by video cameras, and the tapes are being reviewed for evidence. He adds that the Park Service legally can’t claim vandalism or terrorism without all the facts at hand, thus it is proceeding cautiously.

When we veterans went to DC in March to confront ANSWER and its radical affiliates head on, neither the mainstream media nor the top conservative talk shows made note of our vigil.

Even after a huge showing of veterans and supporters that far outnumbered the ANSWER forces, the conservative talk circuit was nearly mum. The primary exceptions were Melanie Morgan, chairman of Move America Forward (and co-host of the morning drive time show on KSFO in San Francisco) and national columnist Michelle Malkin who participated in and filmed the March Gathering of Eagles vigil.

Many vets speculated that the media near-blackout was caused by a lack of trust and confidence in us by the very people who are supposed to be our staunchest supporters. Fearing an outbreak of violence for which we, and thus they, would be blamed, they were silent.

But no violence occurred in March, and we showed we were more than equal to the ANSWER forces, which were arrested in droves as a result of physical confrontations with police.

Malkin and Morgan again are at the forefront and providing steady coverage of Gathering of Eagles III. Morgan’s Move America Forward again is hosting a nationwide caravan that will arrive in DC to join the Gathering of Eagles Saturday, and which is experiencing an outpouring of support from mainstream Americans as it crosses the country.

“The crowds and especially the passion of those along the route have been exceptional,” Morgan said. “People have opened their hearts to the message that our troops are winning."

Vets are justifiably outraged over the defacement of the Vietnam Memorial and concerned that other memorials will be in for similar treatment by ANSWER this weekend. But to consider that we will automatically resort to the violence we eschewed in March is to be grossly uninformed about our capabilities and our beliefs.

The surest way to prevent further vandalism to our memorials is to expose the deeds of those who defaced the Vietnam Memorial. Ignoring such incidents will only insure that further acts of desecration will follow.

Line declined to say whether the National Park Service is taking any extra precautions to protect the war memorials this weekend, noting the ANSWER protests are scheduled to take place between the White House and the Capitol several blocks away.

That may be a consideration. On the other hand, we should also consider that there were no protests planned in D.C., on the night of Sept. 7 when someone slipped up to the Vietnam Memorial unnoticed and spread a caustic fluid along 60 feet of its panels, disparaging the service and memories of those who died in that war.

And even if the Park Service is ultimately successful in cleaning the surface of the memorial, it is unlikely that the substance which has seeped into the unpolished surfaces of the wall will ever be totally removed, much as yet another scar on the hearts of more than two million Vietnam veterans will ever fully heal.
Ronald Winter is the author of "Masters of the Art, A Fighting Marine's Memoir of Vietnam." (Random House) As a Marine helicopter machine gunner in Vietnam he flew 300 missions and was awarded 15 Air Medals among other decorations. He is a professor of communications at the University of Hartford, and a political strategy and media relations specialist at the Michael J. London & Associates public relations firm in Trumbull, Connecticut.

Ellie

[003XXMarineDAD]

I wish we could be there in D.C. on saturady to help the Gathering of Eagles defend the streets in D.C. against the group A.N.W.S.E.R. and code pink.
These are groups that are defunked Commies.
We however will be in D.C. the 16 thru the 19 with the Families United group that is a group of Gold Star Families and Blue Star Families defending our sons and daughters in D.C. on the hill talking to the ones that are so willing to cut & run.
We hope even if in vain to make our voices heard and make them listen to the families of the ones that are paying the price for the FREEDOMS we have.

[jahhead88]

My prayers are with you.

[bobdon]

Has anyone, other than me, had trouble checking out
the sites, listed by Ellie??? No such page, etc..
Just wondering, sounds kinda fishy to me..Semper
Fi.....

Bob:devious:

[Dave Coup]

There is no way for me to express the rage I feel at this desecration of something sacred to me.
Skillets, Fist, Jim I'm with you brothers.

Dave

[MOUNTAINWILLIAM]

Tis a sad situation. I watched the construction of that particular monument and was present at the opening ceremony's and I can tell you there were not too many dry eyes present. The damaged panels will be replaced and if the culprits are caught I am sure they will be taught respect (by someone other than the so-called justice system). We have to keep in mind that there is a very small minority of these idiots amongst the populaton and it is way past time to start thinning the herd.

Semper Fi

[jahhead88]

I would say that just about sums it up.

[jahhead88]

I also remember Walter Cronkite. I also remember a friend of mine who went to Vietnam having to stay inside his parents house because of death threats when he got back from Vietnam.

I've heard veteran after veteran tell me about how they were treated when they got home. I've heard veterans tell me how their drinking stops the nightmares of what they saw. I hear veterans tell me that they couldn't get jobs when they returned because they were Vietnam Veterans. I work for the VA, and sometimes all I can do is provide a listening ear. I see the frustration in their faces. I hear the numerous stories of losing friends in combat, only to come home and be spit on, and called names by the so called people that wanted them home.

Well, it seems like someone just spit on them again. I don't buy it, that this was a cleaning accident. I'm also one that feels saddened and P.O'd. Right now, I'm trying to pursue a doctoral degree in Clinical Psychology to help these veterans with PTSD. Some people say I may be looking for someone to blame for what happened. No, I'm not looking for someone to blame. I'm looking for a way to serve those that served.

Whether or not anyone agrees with the war in Iraq, that's their choice. However, how many of these protesters look veterans eye to eye and see the disappointment in their eyes. Do they see the men and women who were called killer for doing their job, whether it was infantry or supply and logistics?

If this was a cleaning accident; why were surveilance tapes turned over to the D.C. police? If this was a cleaning accident why wasn't a news statement issued? Why was the National Park Service silent, saying the matter was under investigation?

As a veteran and someone who works directly with veterans, I can say this goes to show one thing; history repeats itself. However, this time, I'm hoping that this problem gets taken care of. Each one of the names on that wall is not just a name. It's someone's friend, father, husband, sister, wife, etc. It's a piece of someone's heart.

Whether the person was liberal, conservative, a teenager or a person with a mental illness, this is something in my opinion that could have been prevented.

These are a few of my thoughts:

I'm more than a name;
on the Vietnam Wall.
I was someone's brother or sister;
their husband, their wife; their love, their all.

I once had hopes and dreams;
I wanted to have a family,
a house with a picket fence.
I died in a far away land;
So you could have those things in my place.

I once had fears;
I worried about the one's I left behind.
They called me a mindless killer;
with thoughts of my future running through my mind.

I was the kid you went to school with;
I was your college roommate.
I received my draft notice;
I went because that was how I was raised.

I went to Vietnam;
I did what I was asked to do.
My friends came home and were spat on;
by those that said they cared.

I died in the rice paddies and jungles;
I guess you could say I was spared.
I didn't have to deal with nightmares;
and being called a killer.
I did not know PTSD; or the frustration of getting adequate treatment
at the VA.


Many years later;
my name was put upon the Wall.
My friends began to heal;
and felt they could stand tall.

Some cruel heart decides to act out;
and deface the Vietnam Wall.
Names are erased.

Yet despite this action;
the undisputed gall.
You can't erase what I stood for;
for what I gave my all.

My brothers and sisters will fight for me;
they will once again stand tall.
And restore the sacredness;
of the Vietnam Wall.

Semper Fi,

Jahhead88.

[Ron60]

ellie's links all have a comma behind them...If you take the link (minus the comma) and paste it to your address bar the links will work..


Semper Fi....

[jahhead88]

Update: Fox news did a story on this.

Jahhead88