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08-31-07, 07:39 AM
Marine suicide inspires PTSD help group
By Gregg Aamot - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Aug 31, 2007 7:39:23 EDT
MINNEAPOLIS — Robert Herubin knew his friend Jonathan Schulze was on a downward spiral after a combat tour in Iraq. Depressed, drinking heavily and suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, nobody was able to reach the troubled Marine before he killed himself in January.
Herubin and others close to the Purple Heart recipient wondered what more could have been done. An answer has since emerged in the form of the Jonathan Schulze “I Can’t Hear You” Foundation, which aims to pair veterans returning from combat with other veterans who have experienced war.
Such a relationship might have saved Schulze, said Herubin, a 1991 Gulf War veteran.
“This is about these guys being able to talk to someone who’s been there and done that. Someone who knows what it’s like to fight and kill,” he said.
Herubin came up with the foundation’s name while he was at Schulze’s wake. Herubin had placed a cap next to Schulze’s body with the words “I Can’t Hear You!” emblazoned across the front. It’s a phrase often doled out by drill instructors to their timid new recruits, but as Herubin stared into Schulze’s coffin, it suddenly meant something else.
“You were right there,” Herubin recalled thinking, “and I couldn’t hear you.”
The group is launching its first chapter at a VFW post in suburban Prior Lake, Minn., where Herubin first met Schulze after he returned from Iraq and a grueling tour that included door-to-door combat in Fallujah.
Schulze died at his New Prague home, at the age of 25, on Jan. 16, about two years after he came home. His family has said that in the days prior to his death, Schulze was placed on a waiting list after telling workers at the St. Cloud Veterans Administration Medical Center that he was suicidal, a claim VA denied after an investigation.
The foundation is the latest in a string of veterans support programs that have emerged in Minnesota during the course of the Iraq war. The state National Guard, for instance, has developed a reintegration program that includes mandatory seminars for returning soldiers on everything from marriage counseling to job searches. The state Department of Veteran Affairs, meanwhile, has created a 24-hour hot line for veterans or their families to call for immediate help in times of crisis.
The Schulze foundation supports all of those programs and promises to steer troops to the proper social services for help. At its core, however, the foundation believes mentors would provide veterans with a long-standing personal connection that VA or most social services can’t provide. Moreover, such an approach would encourage communities — through their VFW or American Legion posts — to care for their own veterans, Herubin said.
The initial mentors are being recruited through the Prior Lake VFW, with plans to reach out to veterans at their service organizations in other cities across the state. The mentors will be trained to be confidantes as well as guides who can navigate the complex social services network and make sure the veterans are following through with the care they need. Sometimes, they’ll just be there for dinner or a movie.
The Rev. John Morris, a chaplain who oversees the Guard’s reintegration program, called the idea behind the Schulze foundation “a neat synergy.”
“When they first started, the VFWs and Legions were sort of doing this by bringing veterans together, but before we knew much about the psychology part of it, before we knew much about what returning soldiers are dealing with,” he said.
In Schulze’s case, he was OK for a few months after returning to Minnesota in January 2005 — his 10-month tour in Iraq ended in the fall of 2004. But flashbacks, nightmares and depression began to take their toll, and Schulze began drinking more than he should have, said his mother, Eileen Carlson.
He found a measure of solace at the VFW, where he attended some weekly meetings and served on the post’s honor guard for funerals. He also met several times with VA health workers for help with PTSD, but he remained troubled, she said, with his family unsure how to break through.
“I was his mother, so I wasn’t over there when his buddies were killed beside him and he was killing people, so it’s hard to understand what he was going through and dealing with,” she said. “Just to have someone who has been in something like that to talk to, that’s important.”
The foundation’s Web site, www.jschulzefoundation.org, appeals to families or friends “who may be dealing with their own Jonny.
Ellie
By Gregg Aamot - The Associated Press
Posted : Friday Aug 31, 2007 7:39:23 EDT
MINNEAPOLIS — Robert Herubin knew his friend Jonathan Schulze was on a downward spiral after a combat tour in Iraq. Depressed, drinking heavily and suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder, nobody was able to reach the troubled Marine before he killed himself in January.
Herubin and others close to the Purple Heart recipient wondered what more could have been done. An answer has since emerged in the form of the Jonathan Schulze “I Can’t Hear You” Foundation, which aims to pair veterans returning from combat with other veterans who have experienced war.
Such a relationship might have saved Schulze, said Herubin, a 1991 Gulf War veteran.
“This is about these guys being able to talk to someone who’s been there and done that. Someone who knows what it’s like to fight and kill,” he said.
Herubin came up with the foundation’s name while he was at Schulze’s wake. Herubin had placed a cap next to Schulze’s body with the words “I Can’t Hear You!” emblazoned across the front. It’s a phrase often doled out by drill instructors to their timid new recruits, but as Herubin stared into Schulze’s coffin, it suddenly meant something else.
“You were right there,” Herubin recalled thinking, “and I couldn’t hear you.”
The group is launching its first chapter at a VFW post in suburban Prior Lake, Minn., where Herubin first met Schulze after he returned from Iraq and a grueling tour that included door-to-door combat in Fallujah.
Schulze died at his New Prague home, at the age of 25, on Jan. 16, about two years after he came home. His family has said that in the days prior to his death, Schulze was placed on a waiting list after telling workers at the St. Cloud Veterans Administration Medical Center that he was suicidal, a claim VA denied after an investigation.
The foundation is the latest in a string of veterans support programs that have emerged in Minnesota during the course of the Iraq war. The state National Guard, for instance, has developed a reintegration program that includes mandatory seminars for returning soldiers on everything from marriage counseling to job searches. The state Department of Veteran Affairs, meanwhile, has created a 24-hour hot line for veterans or their families to call for immediate help in times of crisis.
The Schulze foundation supports all of those programs and promises to steer troops to the proper social services for help. At its core, however, the foundation believes mentors would provide veterans with a long-standing personal connection that VA or most social services can’t provide. Moreover, such an approach would encourage communities — through their VFW or American Legion posts — to care for their own veterans, Herubin said.
The initial mentors are being recruited through the Prior Lake VFW, with plans to reach out to veterans at their service organizations in other cities across the state. The mentors will be trained to be confidantes as well as guides who can navigate the complex social services network and make sure the veterans are following through with the care they need. Sometimes, they’ll just be there for dinner or a movie.
The Rev. John Morris, a chaplain who oversees the Guard’s reintegration program, called the idea behind the Schulze foundation “a neat synergy.”
“When they first started, the VFWs and Legions were sort of doing this by bringing veterans together, but before we knew much about the psychology part of it, before we knew much about what returning soldiers are dealing with,” he said.
In Schulze’s case, he was OK for a few months after returning to Minnesota in January 2005 — his 10-month tour in Iraq ended in the fall of 2004. But flashbacks, nightmares and depression began to take their toll, and Schulze began drinking more than he should have, said his mother, Eileen Carlson.
He found a measure of solace at the VFW, where he attended some weekly meetings and served on the post’s honor guard for funerals. He also met several times with VA health workers for help with PTSD, but he remained troubled, she said, with his family unsure how to break through.
“I was his mother, so I wasn’t over there when his buddies were killed beside him and he was killing people, so it’s hard to understand what he was going through and dealing with,” she said. “Just to have someone who has been in something like that to talk to, that’s important.”
The foundation’s Web site, www.jschulzefoundation.org, appeals to families or friends “who may be dealing with their own Jonny.
Ellie