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sgt8089
06-15-07, 01:16 PM
Are You a Democrat, Republican or Redneck Test <br />
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Here is a little test that will help you decide. The answer can be found by posing the following situation and question: <br />
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You're walking down a...

erased
06-15-07, 02:45 PM
(sigh)

drumcorpssnare
06-15-07, 02:56 PM
erased- In response to your sigh.....(Vvvvrrrrpp prrp):D

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

erased
06-15-07, 03:24 PM
@Drum: I was going to just post a "?" in response to your response to my sigh, but I decided to give it a long introduction so as not to waste an entire post on a "?" That being said: ?

drumcorpssnare
06-15-07, 03:28 PM
erased- I suffer from "terminal flatulence." That VVvvrrrrpp, was the sound of a "One-cheek Sneak":D
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

erased
06-15-07, 03:34 PM
Is it terminal for you or those around you?

drumcorpssnare
06-15-07, 03:47 PM
erased- Both. My WMD is known as the SBD...(Silent But Deadly):bunny:
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

JCam0331
06-17-07, 03:46 PM
I dont think being a dem or a republican would make any difference in the reaction of self defense to save your own family.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-17-07, 03:57 PM
I dunno....it probably will. Dems typically would wait for a gummint entity to respond to 'save' them or assist them. Backwoods Republicans (and those Dems who have been or are Marines) would likely take matters into their own hands.

JCam0331
06-17-07, 06:48 PM
I dunno....it probably will. Dems typically would wait for a gummint entity to respond to 'save' them or assist them. Backwoods Republicans (and those Dems who have been or are Marines) would likely take matters into their own hands.

I think thats being overly biased against a political party.

It depends on the man. It depends on whether he has a firearm with him. It depends on several factors, the least of which has anything to do with their party affiliation or political beliefs.

I'm probably to the left side of things (liberal) but I know if some madman was coming after my family I'd either shoot him (if I had a 9mm) or fight him with all I got while my wife/girlfriend/children dial 911.

I don't see any self respecting man acting otherwise regardless of party affiliation.

HOLM
06-17-07, 07:43 PM
911.

I don't see any self respecting man acting otherwise regardless of party affiliation.
Keep voting ACLU and "anti gun" see where that gets ya...

erased
06-17-07, 10:54 PM
Keep voting ACLU and "anti gun" see where that gets ya...

How do you feel when the ACLU defends the rights of conservatives?

HOLM
06-17-07, 11:12 PM
How do you feel when the ACLU defends the rights of conservatives?

Gee I dunno how do I feel about the organization that proudly defends (AKA supports) KNOWN terrorists and KNOWN Child Molesters..


How do you feel about all the wonderful schools and roads Bin Laden built?

erased
06-17-07, 11:46 PM
Hold on, let me type more slowly. Maybe it'll keep you on track

How do you feel when the ACLU defends the rights of conservatives?

I'm not saying they're perfect, but I do like the concept of an organization that defends people's rights without bias.

HOLM
06-18-07, 08:20 AM
Hold on, let me type more slowly. Maybe it'll keep you on track

How do you feel when the ACLU defends the rights of conservatives?

I'm not saying they're perfect, but I do like the concept of an organization that defends people's rights without bias.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....


If you like the concept of the ACLU you had better be working to overthrow it.. Because my friend.. the ACLU is not what you think it is...


Like many have said about many different things around here.. follow the money...

OLE SARG
06-18-07, 08:46 AM
I would wonder about an organization (and I use that word loosely) that defends perverts and child molestors. But what makes this scum piece of **** outfit the WORST is also defending the scum and ****heads out there being able to give instructions on how to lure children to molestors!!!!!!!!!!!!! That makes this piece of **** outfit lower then squid ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND so are the ****head lawyers that work with this ****ty outfit!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

CWSaffels
06-18-07, 10:06 AM
I must be a rep. because I would shoot the S.O.B., and not even give it second thought. In my book ,family first. God ,Corps , & Country!
Sempri Fi
Once a Marine , Always a Marine!

JCam0331
06-18-07, 11:20 AM
Gee I dunno how do I feel about the organization that proudly defends (AKA supports) KNOWN terrorists and KNOWN Child Molesters..


How do you feel about all the wonderful schools and roads Bin Laden built?

Terrorists and Child Molestors have inalienable rights under the due process of law as well.

mrbsox
06-18-07, 12:24 PM
Terrorists and Child Molestors have inalienable rights under the due process of law as well.
:mad:

So true, so very true.

But at what point does the RULE OF LAW decide that their (Terrorists and Child Molestors) RIGHTS are over ruled by the COMMON GOOD to protect the PEOPLE ??

WE THE PEOPLE

... the first three words, big and bold, is what (who) the RULE OF LAW is supposed to serve. When does it become time that the welfare of the many out way the rights of the one, or the few ??

And I'd be interested in 'jetdawg's and '10thZs' input on that question :thumbup:

Sgt Leprechaun
06-18-07, 07:47 PM
The ACLU does not have the rights of average Amurkans in mind. They are a hard core left wing, socialist outfit, working for the 'greater good', which in their minds is the great progressive paradise.

Many, many decades ago, they were perhaps a non political and neutral organization dedicated to actual violations of folks rights. NOT anymore.

Lets be realistic here.

And, to answer the question, about them defending 'conservatives', those cases are taken more to show 'fairness' than anything else. I take those with a grain of salt. It's not what they are really about.

Anyone thinking otherwise should perhaps stop dipping into the progressive Kool aid for a bit.

Lastly, those who use the term "terrorists rights" are deluding themselves. That is an oxymoron if ever I've heard one, and not supported by either the Hague Conventions or the Geneva Conventions. Those who engage in 'terrorist acts' as defined by those conventions, forfeit their 'rights' per se and can be treated as 'guerillas', who deserve no protections. Rightfully so.

JCam0331
06-18-07, 08:44 PM
:mad:

So true, so very true.

But at what point does the RULE OF LAW decide that their (Terrorists and Child Molestors) RIGHTS are over ruled by the COMMON GOOD to protect the PEOPLE ??

WE THE PEOPLE

... the first three words, big and bold, is what (who) the RULE OF LAW is supposed to serve. When does it become time that the welfare of the many out way the rights of the one, or the few ??

And I'd be interested in 'jetdawg's and '10thZs' input on that question :thumbup:

No, it's never overruled.

I'm not 100% familiar with how the ACLU works, and I understand the organization has made some blunders in the past, but I disagree with some people labeling it as a communist-esque organization.

I simply believe even the most heinous criminal deserves a fair trial and all the rights under the due process of law.


If you think about it, when someone is accused of child molestation or terrorism, this is something that can lock them up for a VERY VERY long time or even send them to the chair.

This is a very serious matter and the defendant needs to be given EVERY oppotunity to vindicate himself.

HOLM
06-18-07, 08:46 PM
And I assume you have also never read about similar Communist organizations that claimed the very same prinicples as the ACLU


Do I need to go there? I have spent to much time tonight at commie sites already

Sgt Leprechaun
06-18-07, 09:15 PM
Look up who funds the ACLU. Look up their positions on the 'issues' of the day.

Before you go defending an outfit, you should at least research it instead of listening to the various sites linked to by the Kos-ites and 'moveon.org'.

JCam0331
06-18-07, 09:19 PM
PositionsWhile the bulk of the ACLU's cases involve the First Amendment, Equal Protection, Due Process, and the right to privacy,&lt;SUP class=reference id=_ref-26&gt;&lt;/SUP&gt; the organization has taken...

JCam0331
06-18-07, 09:20 PM
Look up who funds the ACLU. Look up their positions on the 'issues' of the day.

Before you go defending an outfit, you should at least research it instead of listening to the various sites linked to by the Kos-ites and 'moveon.org'.

wtf is kosties and moveon.org?


sorry I never visit blatantly biased sites with a clear political agenda.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-18-07, 09:38 PM
You just did....the ACLU's site.

DAily Kos...left wing site

Moveon.org another hard core left site.

Heck, just read the stuff you just posted. Super hard core left wing.
But..the ACLU tops those big time.

JCam0331
06-18-07, 09:52 PM
You just did....the ACLU's site.

DAily Kos...left wing site

Moveon.org another hard core left site.

Heck, just read the stuff you just posted. Super hard core left wing.
But..the ACLU tops those big time.

That was from Wikipedia.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-18-07, 10:00 PM
It's still their site, nonetheless. (Cut from them, that is).

jetdawgg
06-19-07, 08:54 AM
No, it's never overruled.

I'm not 100% familiar with how the ACLU works, and I understand the organization has made some blunders in the past, but I disagree with some people labeling it as a communist-esque organization.

I simply believe even the most heinous criminal deserves a fair trial and all the rights under the due process of law.


If you think about it, when someone is accused of child molestation or terrorism, this is something that can lock them up for a VERY VERY long time or even send them to the chair.

This is a very serious matter and the defendant needs to be given EVERY oppotunity to vindicate himself.

Jcam, hey they have thrown the 'commie' label at me at times:D

jetdawgg
06-19-07, 08:55 AM
You just did....the ACLU's site.

DAily Kos...left wing site

Moveon.org another hard core left site.

Heck, just read the stuff you just posted. Super hard core left wing.
But..the ACLU tops those big time.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/jetdawgg/images-1.jpg

JCam0331
06-19-07, 11:48 AM
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/jetdawgg/images-1.jpg

nah FOX News is no more right wing than CNN is left wing.

Its good to have mainstream news stations that present both sides of the political spectrum.

jetdawgg
06-19-07, 12:02 PM
nah FOX News is no more right wing than CNN is left wing.

Its good to have mainstream news stations that present both sides of the political spectrum.

JC have you really been watching and checking the threads even around here about the FOX Noise Channel?

Your opinion may waver from the one stated after reading some facts and studies:usmc:

JCam0331
06-19-07, 08:53 PM
JC have you really been watching and checking the threads even around here about the FOX Noise Channel?

Your opinion may waver from the one stated after reading some facts and studies:usmc:

I watch FOX News from time to time...as well as CNN.

A girl I know just landed an internship with FOX in NYC and she said it was a dream job.

I don't have negative feelings toward FOX even being a moderate-liberal

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 06:34 AM
And, if the 'commie' label fits, wear it. It's not illegal these days to be a commie. Anymoreso than it is to be a socialist.

However, neither idea really works very well for the most part.

I see plenty of lefties wearing "Mao" and "Che" t-shirts....so that would lead me to believe they espouse those particular ideas/ideals....which are "communist".

erased
06-20-07, 07:35 AM
Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. ...Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.

I'm sure you've all seen this, but I figured what's the harm? I just can't help but laugh at the "us vs them" mentality many Americans have among their political parties. It doesn't matter if someone has a good idea or point because he's a hippie moonbat, or she's a war-mongering fascist.

Final note: Who the hell made every jackass with a computer and a "blog" the leading expert on every-damn-thing? I swear, when I try to read some of that poorly written drivel, I always end up drinking... a lot more than usual.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 08:28 AM
Erased, I'll agree with you on both points. Esp. about the inane drivel typically 'blogged' at times. I don't consider myself that great a writer, since I don't have the discipline to write every day, or to dream up my own stuff most of the time. I'm a far better editorialist. Still, I think I could do just as well as some of the bloggers I've seen. Yeek.

JCam0331
06-20-07, 08:28 AM
And, if the 'commie' label fits, wear it. It's not illegal these days to be a commie. Anymoreso than it is to be a socialist.

However, neither idea really works very well for the most part.

I see plenty of lefties wearing "Mao" and "Che" t-shirts....so that would lead me to believe they espouse those particular ideas/ideals....which are "communist".

thats the extreme left

theyre no different than the extreme religious right

erased
06-20-07, 10:02 AM
Crap, I forgot to credit that quote:

Hermann Goering at Nuremberg

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 10:19 AM
Ahhh....so it's the 'extreme' left, as opposed to 'the moonbat left'.

Got it. I shall remember that.

So, for example, this guy isn't wearing a "Che" shirt, so he must be a "Moderate":

http://www.zombietime.com/us_out_of_iraq_now_sf_3-18-2007/IMG_2515.JPG


And yet, she must be a 'communist'

http://www.zombietime.com/us_out_of_iraq_now_sf_3-18-2007/IMG_2679.JPG
I'm sure she'd be proud to be a communist.


Then again, I'll call your Mumia and raise you two Che's!!!
http://www.zombietime.com/sf_rally_september_24_2005/communists/IMG_2200.JPG

jetdawgg
06-20-07, 10:30 AM
These folks look like Americans expressing their freedoms. Freedoms that you once swore to protect.

If you think that they are wrong now, maybe HOLM can get you a seat on tha El Al flight with him:D

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 10:36 AM
These folks are dedicated to the downfall of America.

Do YOU believe what they are espousing? The 'imperialist' bit? "Free Mumia" and all that nonsense?

Come on..

jetdawgg
06-20-07, 10:42 AM
These folks are dedicated to the downfall of America.

Do YOU believe what they are espousing? The 'imperialist' bit? "Free Mumia" and all that nonsense?

Come on..

SGT Lep, America is imperialistic. Good to be on this side of it though I may add.

they are not dedicated to the downfall as you may want to think. they are expressing the freedoms that Marines have presented for them. I applaud them.

They are not burning flags, spitting on vets, etc.

As for Mumia, another topic for another time

erased
06-20-07, 10:43 AM
Yeah, the liberal nutjobs are way worse than the conservative ones.

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ghfmir/images/2006/20061021_missouri3.jpg

Those in your pics don't represent all liberals or moderates or whatever anymore than the Phelps Klan represents all conservative Christians.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 10:50 AM
Actually, they are .

The Phelps clan numbers exactly how many??? 100 or so?

I can come up with a hundred different pictures of various lefties espousing the 'hate america' junk just as vile as Phelps and his crew.

Also, interestingly, the Phelps nuts have been banned from protesting at funerals of military members (and others) by state legistlatures, and thousands of Patriot Guard riders (99 percent of whom are conservative) come out whenever those idiots protest, to shield the families from their vile nonsense.

No one in the Republican party claims them, nor would want to.

Unlike the moonbat left, who CLAIM most of those in the pictures I posted.

When I think of "The left", it's those in the pictures that most represent what I think of.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 10:54 AM
Oh, and I can show pics of libs/lefties burning flags as well if you like. I just chose not to since it wasn't 'germain' to that particular point I was trying to make.

erased
06-20-07, 10:57 AM
"Unlike the moonbat left, who CLAIM most of those in the pictures I posted."

How so? I don't hear people saying "That bearded guy with the sign speaks for me".

"When I think of "The left", it's those in the pictures that most represent what I think of."

How does that make it right? If "the right" conjures images of neo-nazis and other fascists and statists, does that automatically mean it is an accurate portrayal of the whole of political leaning?

CWSaffels
06-20-07, 11:00 AM
Boy , this stuff is to deep for my little pea brain to grasp today. I pray that this world will servive for my children, grand children, and for generations to come. I would hate to think that my , and a lot of brave marines , didn't pay the price for nothing. Sempri Fi

CWSaffels
06-20-07, 11:05 AM
Boy , this stuff is to deep for my little pea brain to grasp today. I pray that this world will servive for my children, grand children, and for generations to come. I would hate to think that my , and a lot of brave marines , didn't pay the price for nothing. Sempri Fi

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 11:37 AM
Erased, I've seen plenty of the left who DO claim what those people represent, saying they 'do' 'speak for them'.

I've heard the left, on more times than I care to count, refer to the right as fascists. You, yourself, in a thread on this site, said that anyone who didn't espouse the left wing party line was a 'sociopath'.

003XXMarineDAD
06-20-07, 12:07 PM
Yeah, the liberal nutjobs are way worse than the conservative ones.

http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ghfmir/images/2006/20061021_missouri3.jpg





Just a fact to know, Phelps ran for congress in Kansas as a Democrats and was the top point man for Al Gores run for president in kansas.
I belive he also spent a night in the lincoln bedroom while President Clinton was in office.
Next Question I have is why the libs from San Fran do not shout out about Phelps and his Anti homo agenda as loud?
Is it because he is a Defeatocrat in disguse?

erased
06-20-07, 02:32 PM
Erased, I've seen plenty of the left who DO claim what those people represent, saying they 'do' 'speak for them'.

I've heard the left, on more times than I care to count, refer to the right as fascists. You, yourself, in a thread on this site, said that anyone who didn't espouse the left wing party line was a 'sociopath'.

No, I said lacking empathy is a sign of a sociopath. Nothing more. It's ok, I know context doesn't matter when you're trying to make someone eat their words.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 02:43 PM
So, how do they taste?

erased
06-20-07, 02:50 PM
I wouldn't know. You've done no such thing. I think you need to get some sleep. You're certainly not the same intelligent person who has been engaging me since I got here.

drumcorpssnare
06-20-07, 03:11 PM
There's one person on this thread who, IMO, posts with the intelligence of...
say, the Commandant. And another who posts as if they were Gomer Pyle.

Your job...? Decide who's who!:D
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

HOLM
06-20-07, 03:31 PM
How does that make it right? If "the right" conjures images of neo-nazis and other fascists and statists, does that automatically mean it is an accurate portrayal of the whole of political leaning?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..... :banana::banana::yes:

Yes Sir.. The NEW NATIONAL SOCALIST GERMAN WORKERS PARTY (neo Nazi) was as far right as they come


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAAA

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 03:36 PM
That was waaaay too easy.

BTW, I do work 2 jobs, so sometimes I'm not 100 percent coherent when I post. However, that was not one of those times.

Sieg Heil, Heavens to Mergatriod, and Only the Shadow Knows.....

:)

JCam0331
06-20-07, 10:17 PM
Just a fact to know, Phelps ran for congress in Kansas as a Democrats and was the top point man for Al Gores run for president in kansas.
I belive he also spent a night in the lincoln bedroom while President Clinton was in office.
Next Question I have is why the libs from San Fran do not shout out about Phelps and his Anti homo agenda as loud?
Is it because he is a Defeatocrat in disguse?



Then under the same token, Hitler would be considered a "conversative nutjob"

How many people have the Phelps killed? Yeah I'd like to punch each member of the Westboro baptist church in the face, but they sure haven't sent anyone to their deaths.

Oh yeah, the Phelps are NOT liberal.

Wait, is ANYONE who opposes the war a liberal?

The Phelps are wrongly using their distortion of Christian beliefs to further their political agenda. They're much more aligned with the RELIGIOUS RIGHT than any liberal organization.

Figure it out.

003XXMarineDAD
06-20-07, 10:42 PM
The Phelps are wrongly using their distortion of Christian beliefs to further their political agenda. They're much more aligned with the RELIGIOUS RIGHT than any liberal organization
This quote is B.S. , tell me the last time you saw anyone but Phelps crew out at a funneral protesting.
I have been at one of the funnerals here for a local young man that had phelps crew out trying to disrupt the day for the family.
I 'am damn glad to counter this with the patriot guard in protecting them from this nut job.
The idea that all republicans are hate mongers and war mongers is another load of B.S.
Mistakes have been made and most people can agree on that.
I will not agree to have some ****ant liberal tell it to my face he wish's that my son comes home in a box.
I had this done last year at one of the peace loving anti troop rallies in the area.
Do I have a agenda , DAMN RIGHT I do.
I will counter protest any rally in the area and I will put my two cents worth on here when I feel it is warrented.
The next 8 months will be hard enough with out the constant false crying of the left about how they support the troops but not the mission.
I will stand behind my son that is getting ready for his second trip to the sand box before I would stand behind your line of thought.
I agree you have the right to say what you do but I do not have to bend down and kiss your feet.
You are a Marine and did earn the title that I do respect. Your veiw point I will never have to agree on.
:D

003XXMarineDAD
06-20-07, 10:47 PM
I love to see them steam.
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u295/dparris/DSC00092.jpg
:banana:

Sgt Leprechaun
06-21-07, 05:26 AM
Then under the same token, Hitler would be considered a "conversative nutjob"

How many people have the Phelps killed? Yeah I'd like to punch each member of the Westboro baptist church in the face, but they sure haven't sent anyone to their deaths.

Oh yeah, the Phelps are NOT liberal.

Wait, is ANYONE who opposes the war a liberal?

The Phelps are wrongly using their distortion of Christian beliefs to further their political agenda. They're much more aligned with the RELIGIOUS RIGHT than any liberal organization.

Figure it out.

"Sent anyone to their deaths"? Do what? Commanders do that all the time, does that make them somehow liable or culpable? Does that make FDR or Lincoln culpable in some way?

It's a fallacious argument.

Westboro Baptist has as much to do with the so called religious right as you do. Which is basically about nuthin. Ask yourself this if you really believe that....if they were somehow linked to the RR, don't you think the media would be making big headlines about it? Be a great way to discredit the RR, don't you think?

JCam0331
06-21-07, 10:24 AM
This quote is B.S. , tell me the last time you saw anyone but Phelps crew out at a funneral protesting.
I have been at one of the funnerals here for a local young man that had phelps crew out trying to disrupt the day for the family.
I 'am damn glad to counter this with the patriot guard in protecting them from this nut job.
The idea that all republicans are hate mongers and war mongers is another load of B.S.
Mistakes have been made and most people can agree on that.
I will not agree to have some ****ant liberal tell it to my face he wish's that my son comes home in a box.
I had this done last year at one of the peace loving anti troop rallies in the area.
Do I have a agenda , DAMN RIGHT I do.
I will counter protest any rally in the area and I will put my two cents worth on here when I feel it is warrented.
The next 8 months will be hard enough with out the constant false crying of the left about how they support the troops but not the mission.
I will stand behind my son that is getting ready for his second trip to the sand box before I would stand behind your line of thought.
I agree you have the right to say what you do but I do not have to bend down and kiss your feet.
You are a Marine and did earn the title that I do respect. Your veiw point I will never have to agree on.
:D

The Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church have nothing to do with Liberalism. They don't hate Republicans, they hate everything that has to do with the United States Military.

The Phelps belong in a mental institution.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-21-07, 11:11 AM
Actually, they hate everything AMERICAN. They blame not only the current administration, but the clinton one as well, for allowing America to be "taken over" by the homosexuals.

Phelps and Co are really not to far down the road from the Taliban.

JCam0331
06-21-07, 11:45 AM
Actually, they hate everything AMERICAN. They blame not only the current administration, but the clinton one as well, for allowing America to be "taken over" by the homosexuals.

Phelps and Co are really not to far down the road from the Taliban.

Exactly.

The really honeslt have nothing to do with liberals or conservatives. Trust me, someone like Sgt Leprechaun is pretty heavily conservative but I respect his opinions fully.

Phelps are just straight up nutjobs with no party lines.