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jetdawgg
06-15-07, 11:54 AM
http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

Sgt Leprechaun
06-15-07, 01:41 PM
Any website that starts with 'warresisters' is gonna be immediately suspect in my book.

Of course, it also looks to me like we are peeing away faaar too much on "human resources". What the heck is that, anyway?

erased
06-15-07, 02:16 PM
Yeah, I gotta agree with Sgt Leprechaun on both points here.

yellowwing
06-15-07, 02:25 PM
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LOL, yeah right. I'm sure the human resources of the Treasury Department has legions of officers to nail you for tax evasion! :D

Sgt Leprechaun
06-15-07, 02:30 PM
Hahahahahaha!

No kiddin. Just try that one sometime.

jetdawgg
06-15-07, 02:55 PM
The Web. Gotta luv it:D

Sgt Leprechaun
06-15-07, 03:03 PM
LOL yeah....

erased
06-15-07, 03:14 PM
Well, time for a political plug:

Ron Paul aims to do away with the IRS (as well as many other government entities), vastly decreasing the size of the government, as well as privatizing social programs (welfare, etc), reducing the national debt and strengthening the economy.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-15-07, 03:22 PM
ANOTHER guy for Ron Paul. Man.

I'm still bettin on Fred Thompson.

Get rid of the IRS? Nice thought. Never happen, mind you, but a nice thought.

HOLM
06-15-07, 05:52 PM
YEAH .. Another Paulaholic...


And out of a 3 TRILLION dollar budget... how in the hell did they come up with military spending at 51%


51% seems like a strange number..

jetdawgg
06-16-07, 08:53 AM
YEAH .. Another Paulaholic...


And out of a 3 TRILLION dollar budget... how in the hell did they come up with military spending at 51%


51% seems like a strange number..

It's called the "New Math"

OLE SARG
06-16-07, 09:54 AM
Whoever came up with the figure of 51% for military spending FAILED the "New Math"!!!!!!!!!!
I would have thought any DUMMIE would have wanted to double-check that figure!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

yellowwing
06-16-07, 10:22 AM
Gee Ole Sarge, the 25mm Bushmasters spits out 200 rounds a minute. Even the training rounds are $8.00 a pop. Our LAVs and those fancy Army Apaches deploy those weapons. Still worth every dime.

The least expense is the individual Marine. Basic pay plus a $100 bucks combat duty. God Bless Them.

Zulu 36
06-16-07, 11:48 AM
Any website that starts with 'warresisters' is gonna be immediately suspect in my book.

Of course, it also looks to me like we are peeing away faaar too much on "human resources". What the heck is that, anyway?

Probably a code phrase for "welfare."

This chart does not make sense out of a $3 trillion budget. There are too many non-military things missing.

MOUNTAINWILLIAM
06-18-07, 09:08 PM
http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm


WHAT.....A.....LOAD.....OF.....CRAP.
Pie charts (or any other for that matter) are used as smoke and mirrors, especially when it come to Gov't. spending. They don't include the Feather Your Nest spending and payouts to family and cronies.

Ben and Jerry (of ice cream fame were passing out free Frisbee's with another version of the Government spending pie chart (incidentally, I'm still waiting for mine, I need a dog toy). The offer was just a front for an outfit called the True Majority (a bunch of Liberals with Communists leanings).[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Green"]SUCH FOOLS THESE MORTALS BE (Puck)

:flag:

JCam0331
06-18-07, 09:13 PM
http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

I don't like the source of this piechart

post a relatively unbiased source please.

JCam0331
06-18-07, 09:17 PM
YEAH .. Another Paulaholic...


And out of a 3 TRILLION dollar budget... how in the hell did they come up with military spending at 51%


51% seems like a strange number..

Our budget for 2007 is 2.3 trillion

half of that is over 1 trillion.

That is a gross exaggeration.

Defense spending for 2007 was around 450 billion. Lets throw in some rough estimates - Iraq War 100 billion

thats 550 billion.

Where is the other 600 billion dollars that make up the 51%?

The pie chart is typical bs that comes from a bogus, unreliable website with a clear political agenda.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-18-07, 09:25 PM
As opposed to websites without agendas, like 'demounderground', 'moveon.org', 'dailykos', and the like?

JCam0331
06-18-07, 09:27 PM
I've never been to any of those sites, are you inviting me to become a member just like you are? lol

(in all seriousness demounderground.com looks like like an all new high level of gayness lol I'm gonna see it jsut for curiousity)

edit: wow I just went and they have a video of fat Mike Moore and a list on the right that says:top 10 conservative idiots

trust me, I would never associate myself with a retarded website like that.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-18-07, 09:43 PM
I check out ALL opposition websites. It's the smart way to go I think.

JCam0331
06-18-07, 09:51 PM
Check out SMART opposition websites.

Smart liberals who know what they're talking about and often are highly educated and have influence on society would read the New York Times


Dumb liberals who don't know their head from their butt would subscribe to a site like democraticunderground.com and take what they say as gospel.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-18-07, 09:58 PM
The NYT is the most blatantly left wing site there is. I already know their position, so why would I want to read that rag?

Simple; anything Bush is "for", they are against.

The other sites are MUCH more entertaining and fun.

jetdawgg
06-19-07, 09:02 AM
The NYT is the most blatantly left wing site there is. I already know their position, so why would I want to read that rag?

Simple; anything Bush is "for", they are against.

The other sites are MUCH more entertaining and fun.

You know things are sad when you say the NY Times is 'liberal' They hid the truth about the war just like the other rags in the MSM.

The web (technology) uncovered the truth and the sales and viewings of the MSM have been falling since. The NYT is part of the problem (lying)

JCam0331
06-19-07, 11:46 AM
The NYT is the most blatantly left wing site there is. I already know their position, so why would I want to read that rag?

Simple; anything Bush is "for", they are against.

The other sites are MUCH more entertaining and fun.

Please, the New York Times is no more liberal than FOX News and The Wall Street Journal are conservative.

The New York Times has a reputation of being the newpaper of choice of the country's educated elite for a reason.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 06:37 AM
Oh please. The only people who believe the NYT isn't liberal are the people that work for the NYT, liberals denying it, and those who think they are part of some vast conspiracy.

"The newspaper of choice of the countries educated elite...."

Without a doubt, that statement is one of the more elitist I've been exposed to here.

Shucky darn, I'll jest shamble on off ta may shack down in th' hollar thar after that 'un!

What twaddle.

JCam0331
06-20-07, 08:36 AM
Oh please. The only people who believe the NYT isn't liberal are the people that work for the NYT, liberals denying it, and those who think they are part of some vast conspiracy.

"The newspaper of choice of the countries educated elite...."

Without a doubt, that statement is one of the more elitist I've been exposed to here.

Shucky darn, I'll jest shamble on off ta may shack down in th' hollar thar after that 'un!

What twaddle.

No, the NYT is definitely liberal. Just not far left like you think it is. Like I said it is no more liberal than FOX or the WSJ is Conservative

as for the newspaper of choice for the educated elite...it is a well known fact that most local newspaper articles are written for the 5th grade level. The NYT articles are much more articulate and use more advanced vocabulary...because it has a different target audience.

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 08:52 AM
What, perchance, is the difference between 'far left' and 'liberal'????

What are the circulation numbers of the NYT outside the New York corridor, I wonder?

I guess that's not really accurate, either, since alot of people read it online.

jetdawgg
06-20-07, 09:05 AM
What, perchance, is the difference between 'far left' and 'liberal'????

What are the circulation numbers of the NYT outside the New York corridor, I wonder?

I guess that's not really accurate, either, since alot of people read it online.

To you, anything to the left of Reagan is liberal

JCam0331
06-20-07, 09:17 AM
What, perchance, is the difference between 'far left' and 'liberal'????

What are the circulation numbers of the NYT outside the New York corridor, I wonder?

I guess that's not really accurate, either, since alot of people read it online.


1. The degree of liberalism. Just like there is a difference between "far right" and a regular old conservative.

2. The NYT is in circulation all over the world, not just in the New York area.

3. I second Jetdawg's comment.

yellowwing
06-20-07, 12:04 PM
The NY Times actually took the time and expense to send a real live journalist to investigate if Obama really was educated in a Madarass. That's an important character question of an up and coming politician.

The rest of the Main Stream Media was running with a freaking RNC Blog opinion and rumour.

Is it Liberal these days to actually look for facts no matter where the truth takes us?

jetdawgg
06-20-07, 12:12 PM
The NY Times actually took the time and expense to send a real live journalist to investigate if Obama really was educated in a Madarass. That's an important character question of an up and coming politician.

The rest of the Main Stream Media was running with a freaking RNC Blog opinion and rumour.

Is it Liberal these days to actually look for facts no matter where the truth takes us?

It just means that you may no longer believe the FOX Talking points if you dug for facts:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/jetdawgg/Sheeple20Watch20Fox20News.jpg

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 12:15 PM
To you, anything to the left of Reagan is liberal

Ummmm.....WELL YEAH. The point being???

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 12:17 PM
It just means that you may no longer believe the FOX Talking points if you dug for facts:

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/jetdawgg/Sheeple20Watch20Fox20News.jpg

Oh, come on. This is about the paper that did the entire 'blair' scandal and all that?

I will admit to reading occassional stories from the NYT, but I do so realizing the bias contained therein.

Same goes with the WaPo, which is another left wing outfit. But, it always has been. You figure that going in and adjust from there.

jetdawgg
06-20-07, 12:18 PM
Ummmm.....WELL YEAH. The point being???

You would think that Mr. Reagan was still a democrat or liberal. The right wing is too extreme and that is why they lost the last election so badly

Sgt Leprechaun
06-20-07, 12:23 PM
And, now the Amurkan public also remember why the Dems haven't been in power in the congress in 12 years or longer. It may take them another election, but American's don't like socialism anymore than they like fascism.

yellowwing
06-20-07, 12:49 PM
Aw Geez, you put me in a tough spot quoting Reagan, A Truly Great Man. His Steel and character is needed today for sure!

But look at the the current AO. The public is running to the Dems. They may may not have a plan, but they don't like what is happening now.

That's scary as hell. How did we get here? That an an unknown is perceived as a better than we are now?

jetdawgg
06-20-07, 12:51 PM
Aw Geez, you put me in a tough spot quoting Reagan, A Truly Great Man. His Steel and character is needed today for sure!

But look at the the current AO. The public is running to the Dems. They may may not have a plan, but they don't like what is happening now.

That's scary as hell. How did we get here? That an an unknown is perceived as a better than we are now?

Extremists