thedrifter
07-18-02, 05:37 AM
This was sent to me by GyBill........
It is long but a Good One.....
Everyone asks, "How the heck do the marines get that way? What is it that makes them such good troops?"
I tried to find the answer in military textbooks. No luck there. So I went into the field and started asking around.
When the 1st Provisional Marine Brigade was getting ready to embark for Korea, I put the question bluntly to a group of them in front of a recruiting station. "Hey, how come you guys've got such a good reputation?"
The veterans in the crowd didn't answer. But a beardless kid without any ribbons spoke up. Mister," he said crisply, "we're respected because we're professionals."
"What do you mean?"
"I'll show you," he said, leading me inside.
On the Army bulletin board hung a clipping from a recent magazine, "Join the New U.S. Army and Be Treated Like a Gentleman."
"So," I asked. "What's that got to do with the Marines?"
The kid winked and dragged me to the Navy section. Here a poster showed a destroyer cutting the waves. It said: ""Join the Navy and See the World."
Next he took me to an Air Force recruiting ad. A handsome aviator with gleaming medals smiled from the wall. The caption said something about joining the Air Force for a career and promotion.
"Now, " said the young Marine, "look at our poster."
At the Marine office there hung no printed matter at all. But there was a crudely painted picture of a red, hairy, doubled-up fist. Under it were splattered these words: "You're not good enough to be a Marine!"
"See?" said the fuzzy-faced private. "We don't fool around with mama's boys or kids who need their noses wiped or guys looking for a home or a cheap vacation. The Marines are professional fighters. If the recruit can't ‘take it and dish it out,' he isn't going to make the grade."
I've heard this talk of "being pros" on posts all over the world. And the longer a Marine stays in service, more firmly he seems to believe that either you're a professional fighter or a dead one. There's no place for
amateurs.
After World War II, the Marines came into the debate about how Germany should be occupied. Duty in a conquered country offers many temptations to troops; the unsettled conditions often taint men and make them soft.
John McCloy suggested to Congressman Vinson that it might be a good idea to expand the Marines and have them act as occupation troops. Vinson, in turn, sent for General Vandegrift, then commandant of the Marine Corps.
"Well, General," said Congressman Vinson, explaining the proposition, “how would the Corps like to be expanded to 750,000 men?"
"Sir," replied the General, "that's impossible."
"Oh, I believe Congress would enact the legislation."
"But, sir," said General Vandegrift, "that has nothing to do with it. There aren't 750,000 men in the United States who are good enough to be Marines!"
The Marines don't advertise how unique is their breed, or how tough and well-trained they are. Still, they have an uncanny way of demonstrating it to anyone who may have doubts.
In Korea, some British Commandos, who aren't exactly sissies, joined up with the Marines. There had been a lot of talk about which group was the most rugged.
One night, two Commandos and two Marines were isolated in a foxhole forward of the main lines. At dawn one Commando said: "We're surrounded by a couple of hundred enemy in the hills. Are you blokes ready to attack."
The other Commando replies, "I'm ready, matey, but what about these Yankee Marines. Think they can keep up the pace?"
One of the Marines stuck his head out of the foxhole to look around. An enemy bullet at the end of its trajectory landed in his mouth, knocking out two teeth.
>"Blimey!" said a Commando, "you caught it with your teeth!"
The Marine casually removed the bullet from his mouth. "I don't make a practice of it," he said, "but it's a quick way of estimating range. The gooks are about 500 yards off. Let's wait till they get closer before attacking. Then we can use bayonets."
The other Marine looked disgusted. "You clumsy dope," he growled, "if you'd rolled with it like they taught us as Parris Island, you wouldn't have lost those teeth."
When I was in Pusan, I asked a Marine major, "Why are the Marines so good."
"We get along okay," he replied, "because we've got discipline."
"What do you mean, discipline?"
"Well," he said, "there's the apocryphal story of the Marine lieutenant who operates a rest camp. A company of battle-weary Marines came down from up north for a couple of days of relaxing.
"That night, about 2 A.M., it was cold, and the lieutenant sat in his jeep smoking and just keeping his eyes on things. Suddenly he was startled by a woman's scream. A girl with no clothes on ran from one of the houses with
a Marine in pursuit. He wasn't in full uniform "The girl raced past the jeep. The Marine was gaining on her, but when he reached the lieutenant's jeep, he stopped and saluted "That!' said the major, "is discipline."
When I stopped laughing, I said, "What did the lieutenant do?"
"Do?" said the major, surprised. "I don't know. But my guess is he did what any self-respecting officer would do. He returned the salute and said, 'Hey, Marine, that babe's got a head start on you. You better take the jeep!"
In spite of their hilarious antics, the marines sometimes try to give the impression of being a mousy little outfit, devoid of color and famous "characters."
One of their greats was Gunnery Sergeant Dan Daly. As an enlisted man he won two Medals of Honor, the Navy Cross, the Distinguished Service Cross, and three French decorations. And all these while he was still alive!
Daly was the firebrand who led his platoon into a hazardous position in Belleau Wood, shouting, "C'mon, you SOBs! Do you want to live forever!"
This battle cry became known all over the world, a when Daly arrived in Paris the press besieged him with interviews. "How," asked a reported, "did you think up your wonderful command."
"What command?" said Daly.
"C'mon, you SOBs! Do you want to live forever!"
Daly's face lighted with what is known as baby-faced disdain. Then very earnestly he said: "Do you think that a Marine noncommissioned officer would use such bad language to the men under him? What I really said was, 'For goodness same, you chaps, let us advance against the foe!"
Being an organization of individualists, the Marines have an internal loyalty unknown to other normal units. But loyalty is something they never discuss. In fact, Marines speak of other Marines in terms of cynical contempt.
I heard two sergeants discussing a colonel who was on the staff of the secretary of the Navy.
"Him?" said one of the sergeants upon hearing the colonel's name. "I know that slopehead."
"Yeh?"
"We were to Peleliu together."
"What'd he do?"
"Oh, the joker got the idea that a wounded guy laying in front of a Nip cave should be rescued. And the dumb buzzard felt that he was the only guy in the outfit to do the job. They just don't come any stupider that the colonel."
"What happened?"
"The knucklehead runs out to rescue the wounded guy. About every Jap in the island was shooting at him. But he made it by luck. After dark he dragged me back."
"It was you he rescued?"
"Yeh, the dumb cluck!"
The one thing all Marines accept is that their only function is to fight for the United States and the Marine Corps. Even the lady Marines catch the spirit. (Don't mention "lady Marine" to their face. "Don't call me
that," one told me. "I'm just a plain ornery Marine!")
After the normal indoctrination, a group of Marines (female) were sent out to watch combat troops in maneuvers. After this, one of the Leathernecks (female) was handed a flame thrower. She strapped it on and let loose an arc of flame. Then she said, "Isn't there any place on this gadget to fix a bayonet?"
Marine officers generally are regarded as guys who have had more experience and know more soldering than enlisted men. As of this day, 87.5 per cent of the officers on active duty in the Corps have served as enlisted men.
The Marine brass doesn't go in for quickie inspections of the front lines--with a photographer along for home consumption. They're up there all the time, with the combat troops. For instance, way back in 1836, when
The Marines were ordered to active duty along the Florida-Georgia border, the commandant, Colonel Henderson, went out to take personal charge of his troops. Before he left he tacked a sign on the door of his Washington office: "Gone to Florida to fight the Indians. Will be back when the war
Is over."
When Congressmen Hugh Scott and Henry Latham went to the Marines at the Maktong Bulge front, they found the commanding officer, Brig. Gen. Edward A. Craig, sleeping on the ground and eating exactly the same food as his men.
"Have you a headquarters with a bunk and mess table and orderlies?" asked the congressmen.
General Craig said: "When the rest of the Marine troops get bunks and tables, then we'll think about giving them to the officers too."
When I visited the Marines at Quantico, I saw a magnificent red-brick building and wondered what it was. It was lush, with beautiful hardwood floors, lovely murals, a fine band and bar. Marines sat about drinking beer with some of the best-looking and best-dresses girls I had seen for some
time.
I thought, "What are enlisted men doing in the Officers' Club?"
Continued................
It is long but a Good One.....
Everyone asks, "How the heck do the marines get that way? What is it that makes them such good troops?"
I tried to find the answer in military textbooks. No luck there. So I went into the field and started asking around.
When the 1st Provisional Marine Brigade was getting ready to embark for Korea, I put the question bluntly to a group of them in front of a recruiting station. "Hey, how come you guys've got such a good reputation?"
The veterans in the crowd didn't answer. But a beardless kid without any ribbons spoke up. Mister," he said crisply, "we're respected because we're professionals."
"What do you mean?"
"I'll show you," he said, leading me inside.
On the Army bulletin board hung a clipping from a recent magazine, "Join the New U.S. Army and Be Treated Like a Gentleman."
"So," I asked. "What's that got to do with the Marines?"
The kid winked and dragged me to the Navy section. Here a poster showed a destroyer cutting the waves. It said: ""Join the Navy and See the World."
Next he took me to an Air Force recruiting ad. A handsome aviator with gleaming medals smiled from the wall. The caption said something about joining the Air Force for a career and promotion.
"Now, " said the young Marine, "look at our poster."
At the Marine office there hung no printed matter at all. But there was a crudely painted picture of a red, hairy, doubled-up fist. Under it were splattered these words: "You're not good enough to be a Marine!"
"See?" said the fuzzy-faced private. "We don't fool around with mama's boys or kids who need their noses wiped or guys looking for a home or a cheap vacation. The Marines are professional fighters. If the recruit can't ‘take it and dish it out,' he isn't going to make the grade."
I've heard this talk of "being pros" on posts all over the world. And the longer a Marine stays in service, more firmly he seems to believe that either you're a professional fighter or a dead one. There's no place for
amateurs.
After World War II, the Marines came into the debate about how Germany should be occupied. Duty in a conquered country offers many temptations to troops; the unsettled conditions often taint men and make them soft.
John McCloy suggested to Congressman Vinson that it might be a good idea to expand the Marines and have them act as occupation troops. Vinson, in turn, sent for General Vandegrift, then commandant of the Marine Corps.
"Well, General," said Congressman Vinson, explaining the proposition, “how would the Corps like to be expanded to 750,000 men?"
"Sir," replied the General, "that's impossible."
"Oh, I believe Congress would enact the legislation."
"But, sir," said General Vandegrift, "that has nothing to do with it. There aren't 750,000 men in the United States who are good enough to be Marines!"
The Marines don't advertise how unique is their breed, or how tough and well-trained they are. Still, they have an uncanny way of demonstrating it to anyone who may have doubts.
In Korea, some British Commandos, who aren't exactly sissies, joined up with the Marines. There had been a lot of talk about which group was the most rugged.
One night, two Commandos and two Marines were isolated in a foxhole forward of the main lines. At dawn one Commando said: "We're surrounded by a couple of hundred enemy in the hills. Are you blokes ready to attack."
The other Commando replies, "I'm ready, matey, but what about these Yankee Marines. Think they can keep up the pace?"
One of the Marines stuck his head out of the foxhole to look around. An enemy bullet at the end of its trajectory landed in his mouth, knocking out two teeth.
>"Blimey!" said a Commando, "you caught it with your teeth!"
The Marine casually removed the bullet from his mouth. "I don't make a practice of it," he said, "but it's a quick way of estimating range. The gooks are about 500 yards off. Let's wait till they get closer before attacking. Then we can use bayonets."
The other Marine looked disgusted. "You clumsy dope," he growled, "if you'd rolled with it like they taught us as Parris Island, you wouldn't have lost those teeth."
When I was in Pusan, I asked a Marine major, "Why are the Marines so good."
"We get along okay," he replied, "because we've got discipline."
"What do you mean, discipline?"
"Well," he said, "there's the apocryphal story of the Marine lieutenant who operates a rest camp. A company of battle-weary Marines came down from up north for a couple of days of relaxing.
"That night, about 2 A.M., it was cold, and the lieutenant sat in his jeep smoking and just keeping his eyes on things. Suddenly he was startled by a woman's scream. A girl with no clothes on ran from one of the houses with
a Marine in pursuit. He wasn't in full uniform "The girl raced past the jeep. The Marine was gaining on her, but when he reached the lieutenant's jeep, he stopped and saluted "That!' said the major, "is discipline."
When I stopped laughing, I said, "What did the lieutenant do?"
"Do?" said the major, surprised. "I don't know. But my guess is he did what any self-respecting officer would do. He returned the salute and said, 'Hey, Marine, that babe's got a head start on you. You better take the jeep!"
In spite of their hilarious antics, the marines sometimes try to give the impression of being a mousy little outfit, devoid of color and famous "characters."
One of their greats was Gunnery Sergeant Dan Daly. As an enlisted man he won two Medals of Honor, the Navy Cross, the Distinguished Service Cross, and three French decorations. And all these while he was still alive!
Daly was the firebrand who led his platoon into a hazardous position in Belleau Wood, shouting, "C'mon, you SOBs! Do you want to live forever!"
This battle cry became known all over the world, a when Daly arrived in Paris the press besieged him with interviews. "How," asked a reported, "did you think up your wonderful command."
"What command?" said Daly.
"C'mon, you SOBs! Do you want to live forever!"
Daly's face lighted with what is known as baby-faced disdain. Then very earnestly he said: "Do you think that a Marine noncommissioned officer would use such bad language to the men under him? What I really said was, 'For goodness same, you chaps, let us advance against the foe!"
Being an organization of individualists, the Marines have an internal loyalty unknown to other normal units. But loyalty is something they never discuss. In fact, Marines speak of other Marines in terms of cynical contempt.
I heard two sergeants discussing a colonel who was on the staff of the secretary of the Navy.
"Him?" said one of the sergeants upon hearing the colonel's name. "I know that slopehead."
"Yeh?"
"We were to Peleliu together."
"What'd he do?"
"Oh, the joker got the idea that a wounded guy laying in front of a Nip cave should be rescued. And the dumb buzzard felt that he was the only guy in the outfit to do the job. They just don't come any stupider that the colonel."
"What happened?"
"The knucklehead runs out to rescue the wounded guy. About every Jap in the island was shooting at him. But he made it by luck. After dark he dragged me back."
"It was you he rescued?"
"Yeh, the dumb cluck!"
The one thing all Marines accept is that their only function is to fight for the United States and the Marine Corps. Even the lady Marines catch the spirit. (Don't mention "lady Marine" to their face. "Don't call me
that," one told me. "I'm just a plain ornery Marine!")
After the normal indoctrination, a group of Marines (female) were sent out to watch combat troops in maneuvers. After this, one of the Leathernecks (female) was handed a flame thrower. She strapped it on and let loose an arc of flame. Then she said, "Isn't there any place on this gadget to fix a bayonet?"
Marine officers generally are regarded as guys who have had more experience and know more soldering than enlisted men. As of this day, 87.5 per cent of the officers on active duty in the Corps have served as enlisted men.
The Marine brass doesn't go in for quickie inspections of the front lines--with a photographer along for home consumption. They're up there all the time, with the combat troops. For instance, way back in 1836, when
The Marines were ordered to active duty along the Florida-Georgia border, the commandant, Colonel Henderson, went out to take personal charge of his troops. Before he left he tacked a sign on the door of his Washington office: "Gone to Florida to fight the Indians. Will be back when the war
Is over."
When Congressmen Hugh Scott and Henry Latham went to the Marines at the Maktong Bulge front, they found the commanding officer, Brig. Gen. Edward A. Craig, sleeping on the ground and eating exactly the same food as his men.
"Have you a headquarters with a bunk and mess table and orderlies?" asked the congressmen.
General Craig said: "When the rest of the Marine troops get bunks and tables, then we'll think about giving them to the officers too."
When I visited the Marines at Quantico, I saw a magnificent red-brick building and wondered what it was. It was lush, with beautiful hardwood floors, lovely murals, a fine band and bar. Marines sat about drinking beer with some of the best-looking and best-dresses girls I had seen for some
time.
I thought, "What are enlisted men doing in the Officers' Club?"
Continued................