Observer fears Islamic takeover of France imminent

[jetdawgg]

A U.S. national defense expert and Pentagon advisor says that, even with the election of Nicolas Sarkozy as France's new president, it may already be too late to stop the eventual Islamic takeover of that country and much of Western Europe.

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Lt. Col. Bob McGinnis (U.S. Army-Ret.) has spent a great deal of time in Europe and has been concerned with the growing Islamic influence on the continent. Although with the election of Sarkozy the French people have turned to someone who plans tougher measures on immigration, Maginnis fears it already may be too late.

"It probably is too late for Great Britain and France and maybe even the Netherlands and Germany," the military advisor contends. "They have very sizeable minorities that refuse to integrate, that impose Sharia law on the ghettos, and as a result have created what I think is a series of smaller countries within a country," he says.

With a high Islamic fertility rate and "notoriously low" fertility rates among indigenous members of the population, these "little islands of ghettos of Islamic Sharia law" are going to continue to expand and eventually engulf the culture of the region, Maginnis asserts.

"And that's what Sarkozy in France is concerned about," the retired Army officer says, "but I'm just not sure that they're going to be able to get everyone in the right direction to reverse this trend."

Sarkozy has promised to deal with France's Islamic situation, but Maginnis is not optimistic the new president can turn things around.

http://www.onenewsnow.com/2007/05/observer_fears_islamic_takeove.php

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[drumcorpssnare]

For many, many years now...the French national "posture" has been to simply
"Bend Over and Spread Them Cheeks" followed by "Go Ahead and Stick It In" (All the Way)
That's just the way it is, when you're a country full of spineless pus bags!
Those liberal cowards deserve whatever happens to them. And if they EVER call on the U.S. again, to oust an enemy invader...all of America should stand up together and do this:banana: :banana: :banana:

drumcorpssnare

[gwladgarwr]

For many, many years now...the French national "posture" has been to simply
"Bend Over and Spread Them Cheeks" followed by "Go Ahead and Stick It In" (All the Way)
That's just the way it is, when you're a country full of spineless pus bags!
Those liberal cowards deserve whatever happens to them. And if they EVER call on the U.S. again, to oust an enemy invader...all of America should stand up together and do this:banana: :banana:

drumcorpssnare

Sounds like the title to NWA's new rap ditty. Sounds kinda catchy...and I actually hate rap.

That retired colonel is kinda right, though: let the great unwashed masses in en masse and with full entitlement, and look what they do - they hole up in their ghettos and defiantly refuse to integrate into the society that welcomed them with open anuses. The next thing you know, you got your Fifth Column ready to go on the march against you (armed with food stamps and a funny way of showing gratitude.)

France is actually headed in the right direction for once - and starting to wake up. Maybe sometimes it takes the son of an immigrant to curb the immigration problem.

The colonel's assessment only reinforces my view that Islam is incompatible with Western democratic values, and sorry to say, those who are in the throes of Islam, including the ones born and bred (or immigrated) to the West, will espouse Western-style democracy and freedoms while simultaneously preaching against their evils in the mosques of Lyon, Paris, Amsterdam, Berlin, and London.

I think he's a little bit of a worry-wart, though. There is something fatally and inherently weak about those in Western societies who succumb to Islam - they may become a formidable Fifth Column, in time - show me a Arab or Muslim-dominated country that has successfully gone democratic (Turkey don't count, that basketcase), and I will begin to worry. And it hasn't happened - yet. It most likely is impossible, but it doesn't hurt to keep a real close eye on Western Islam.

Sgt gw:flag:

[10thzodiac]

My grandson's French gymnastic teacher (Illinois) told me while traveling through one section of Paris on a bus surrounded by immigrants, he was the only Frenchman within miles http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/11.gif

BTW, his American wife said Corsica is better than Hawaii and she's been to both.

[jetdawgg]

I get a sense of Belleau Wood all over again.....

[Sgt Leprechaun]

No. There will be no "Belleau Wood" all over again, because I seriously doubt that the Amurkan people would want their sons/daughters blood and national treasure spilled to 'save' france, yet again, from itself.

I would be against THAT war. The french have proven time and time again they are not worth one more dime from the national treasury.

[jetdawgg]

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[10thzodiac]

No. There will be no "Belleau Wood" all over again, because I seriously doubt that the Amurkan people would want their sons/daughters blood and national treasure spilled to 'save' france, yet again, from itself.

I would be against THAT war. The french have proven time and time again they are not worth one more dime from the national treasury.

Don't forget there would be no America (well, one that didn't speak cockney) if the French didn't save our ass at the battle of Yorktown, albeit for whatever reason !

[Sgt Leprechaun]

And, we repaid that favor in WWI, WWII......

I think the debt is done.

[jetdawgg]

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[Sgt Leprechaun]

That's two of your pics I can't see for some reason.

(No kiddin)

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[10thzodiac]

And, we repaid that favor in WWI, WWII......

I think the debt is done.

Some one that saves my ass I'll always be in debt too, no matter how many times I have to save his ass.

There are some things you just don't forget...

That's a fact jack http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif

[drumcorpssnare]

10thz- Yaeh, Adm. DeGrasse really made a heavy duty sacrifice for the sake of the American colonies. Sailed the French fleet to the Yorktown peninsula, and dropped anchor.

Period. (Not one French sailor or marine shed a drop of blood at Yorktown)

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[mark king]

i like french fries.

[Dave Coup]

I just saw on CNN that the French have raised thier Security Alert Level from 'Run' to 'Hide'. They have 2 other levels they can escalate to, 'Collaborate' and 'Surrender'.

SF

Dave

[10thzodiac]

10thz- Yaeh, Adm. DeGrasse really made a heavy duty sacrifice for the sake of the American colonies. Sailed the French fleet to the Yorktown peninsula, and dropped anchor.

Period. (Not one French sailor or marine shed a drop of blood at Yorktown)

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

The French out maneuvered the British, or would you of preferred French & American blood to sanctify the American-French Victory at <?XML:NAMESPACE PREFIX = ST1 /><ST1:place>Yorktown</ST1:place> ?

"To win 100 victories in 100 battles is not the highest skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the highest skill." --Sun Tzu ...

Apparently besides the French, Usama bin Laden has been reading Sun Tzu's Treatise "The Art of War".

Bush against his General's advice has dubiously (pun-intended) taken Usama's bin Ladens bait and has become Al-Qaeda's best recruiter.

Drums, symbolic of a Great Power 'cutting and running' at the surrender of <ST1:place>Yorktown</ST1:place> the British drummers played 'The World Turned Upside Down" as they marched out surrendering their arms rather their blood to 'King George' !

If it is blood you want, too bad you not a grunt in this King George's Marines.

[jetdawgg]

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[Dave Coup]

Roflmao

[Sgt Leprechaun]

Bush is AQ's best recruiter? Oh, come on.

I think the Demo party has him beat HANDS DOWN in that regard!

[10thzodiac]

Bush is AQ's best recruiter? Oh, come on.

I think the Demo party has him beat HANDS DOWN in that regard!

Sarge, stop believing is thinking:

Indeed, there is a connection between Bush and al-Qaeda recruitment, it may not be the kind the Bush campaign is likely to dwell on. The prestigious International Institute for Strategic Studies released its annual survey that found, among other things, that far from dealing a blow to al-Qaeda and making the U.S. and its allies safer, the Iraq invasion has in fact substantially strengthened bin Laden's network and increased the danger of attacks in the West. And the London-based IISS is not some Bush-bashing antiwar think tank; it hosted the president's keynote address during his embattled visit to the British late last year.

Former NSA for President Regan General Odom said: Al Qaeda recruiting declined in 2002, but spiked after the U.S. invaded -- rose in Asia as well as in the Middle East. And Iraq is a great training ground for terrorists now. In addition, Odom said, a wedge is being driven between the United States and its European allies. "Osama understands that; we seem not to." The invasion of Iraq, Odom said, probably saved al Qaeda from ceasing to exist." http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/11.gif

[Sgt Leprechaun]

OK, I'll re-phrase:

I KNOW the left, the dems, the dem prez candidates, the anti war idiots, the NYT, WashPost, LA Times, et al, are Al Q's BEST recruiters.

See if THIS little tidbit applies to any of the above:

From the Army SAEDA Brief:
"Subversion is advocating, causing, or attempting to cause insubordination, disloyalty, or refusal of duty by any member of the armed forces or civilian personnel with some intent to interfere with, impair or influence loyalty, discipline, or morale."

[10thzodiac]

OK, I'll re-phrase:

I KNOW the left, the dems, the dem prez candidates, the anti war idiots, the NYT, WashPost, LA Times, et al, are Al Q's BEST recruiters.

See if THIS little tidbit applies to any of the above:

From the Army SAEDA Brief:
"Subversion is advocating, causing, or attempting to cause insubordination, disloyalty, or refusal of duty by any member of the armed forces or civilian personnel with some intent to interfere with, impair or influence loyalty, discipline, or morale."

I see where you are coming from and your intentions are admirable, but in my opinion somewhat misguided. A true patriot serves his country and always questions its leadership and does not follow blindly; they did the latter in Nazi Germany.

Do you think it would be a good idea to silence "the left, the dems, the dem prez candidates, the anti war idiots, the NYT, WashPost, LA Times, et al" (above) with a <S style="text-line-through: double">Reichstag Fire Decree (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_Fire_Decree)</S> Twin Towers Decree ?<S style="text-line-through: double"><O:p</S>

[drumcorpssnare]

10thz- Yes, the French fleet outmaneuvered the British Navy at Yorktown, without casualties. My point was that the French sacrificed nothing for America. Since then, the French cannot say the same of America's efforts to help France.
Not many people know that "The World Turned Upside Down" was played when Cornwalis surrendered. What an appropriate tune for that moment!
Richard, sometimes it's hard for me to wrap my little mind around some of the opinions you share with us here. So, I just have to be content in saying, "I respect your opinion, even though it is wrong.":D
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[OLE SARG]

Amen Drum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

[10thzodiac]

10thz- Yes, the French fleet outmaneuvered the British Navy at Yorktown, without casualties. My point was that the French sacrificed nothing for America. Since then, the French cannot say the same of America's efforts to help France.

If it wasn't for their Generalship, how many dead Frenchmen would you need ?

Not many people know that "The World Turned Upside Down" was played when Cornwalis surrendered. What an appropriate tune for that moment!
Richard, sometimes it's hard for me to wrap my little mind around some of the opinions you share with us here. So, I just have to be content in saying, "I respect your opinion, even though it is wrong."

"With us" (LMAO) listening to you, its me against all of you, are you pregnant or do you have a mouse in your pocket (us).:D

How about "us" that has been in harms way or worse, instead of beating war tom-tom's like you's !

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

BTW, a second cousin a former Marine just called now, he served on Peleliu and his brother (army) was killed by a Japanese sniper in Cebu. This cousin's son, my third cousin served in my old regiment the 11th Marines, Cold War. We all have the same surname.

Guess what he told me ? He's against the Iraqi War.

Drums, either it runs in my family or you're in or quickly becoming a minority.

Again, no one here has yet given me a sensible reason why they would risk their child's life in the Iraq War.

[drumcorpssnare]

10thz- The most "sensible reason" to fight in Iraq, for me anyway, is that it's always better to lay waste to your enemy's homeland, than for your enemy to lay waste to yours. If I were of age to re-enlist and deploy, I'd be there right now. If I had children in the military, I would encourage them to request deployment.
I believe that America should do "whatever it takes" to fight terrorism, anywhere it exists in the world, to the point where the terrorists finally realize they cannot win, and their will to fight is broken.

And BTW, the "us" you were asking about...I have a pregnant mouse in my pocket.:bunny:
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[10thzodiac]

10thz- The most "sensible reason" to fight in Iraq, for me anyway, is that it's always better to lay waste to your enemy's homeland, than for your enemy to lay waste to yours. If I were of age to re-enlist and deploy, I'd be there right now. If I had children in the military, I would encourage them to request deployment.
I believe that America should do "whatever it takes" to fight terrorism, anywhere it exists in the world, to the point where the terrorists finally realize they cannot win, and their will to fight is broken.

And BTW, the "us" you were asking about...I have a pregnant mouse in my pocket.:bunny:
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

I'm glad you're not my father :D

[drumcorpssnare]

10thz- Why? I didn't say I fuked that mouse! I just said I had a pregnant mouse in my pocket. I thought YOU were the dad!!!:banana:

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

[10thzodiac]

10thz- Why? I didn't say I fuked that mouse! I just said I had a pregnant mouse in my pocket. I thought YOU were the dad!!!
drumcorpssnare:usmc:

He says he knows you :D

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[jetdawgg]

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[OLE SARG]

Damn, you been around ole "cut and paste" 10th too damn long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,