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DougRagan
05-17-07, 05:38 AM
What do these people have in common?
http://thenewpundit.blogspot.com/2007/05/anyone-else-see-similarities.html

Pascal
05-18-07, 05:44 AM
The commonality would depend on what each claims to believe. If Westboro Baptist Church is claiming to be a Christian organization I would argue that their conduct does not fall in line with classical Christianity. I would also argue that Islamic Radicals are thankful for the work these people are currently doing. I am interested to know how they came to the conclusion that God hates America?

Sgt Leprechaun
05-18-07, 11:50 AM
Simple.

Because they are convinced, like all cults, that theirs is the 'one true way', and the rest of us are going to burn in hell unless we immediately surrender to their 'beliefs'. This way, they gain converts to the cause.

They are ALL moonbats. Islam just have more of em, that's all.

Pascal
05-18-07, 12:22 PM
Are you say that if someone makes a truth-claim about religion that makes them a "moonbat"?

Sgt Leprechaun
05-18-07, 12:39 PM
Depends. Define "truth claim". Define "religion".

I could tell you my religion tells me to worship an image of Paris Hilton and pray to her 5 times daily. Just because I believe it, doesn't make it true for the remainder of the populace, thus qualifying me for full "Moonbat" status.

I'm not prevented from doing so, mind you, but nor are people prevented from pointing at me and remarking that I just dis-embarked from the northbound Nutburger express, either.

sgt tony
05-18-07, 01:09 PM
It is hard to belive that the Baptist church allows this to keep going in there name.

Pascal
05-18-07, 01:19 PM
I completely agree, just because you believe something does not necessarily make it so. What is you take on truth? And when you said "like all cults" who are you including under the term "cult"?

Sgt Leprechaun
05-18-07, 01:23 PM
You didn't answer my first two questions. Also, 'truth' is somewhat subjective as well. Gravity exists, that is truth. Beyond that, truth depends on the teller.

Also, complete your profile or you'll find yourself evac'd out of here until you do so.

Just a tad bit of advice.

Pascal
05-18-07, 01:27 PM
Religion? Let's go with: the faith and worship of a personal God or gods.

Pascal
05-18-07, 01:28 PM
When truth is subjective don't they call that an opinion?

Pascal
05-18-07, 01:35 PM
truth - that which corresponds to reality.

Sgt Leprechaun
05-18-07, 01:36 PM
Your "truth" and mine may be totally different, and therefore, subjective. For example, it's 'true' that I don't like anchovies. That's a truth to me. May not be for you.

As a general, broad based concept, I'd go with your definition of religion.

Pascal
05-18-07, 01:40 PM
Yes but you at least believe there are is Truth with a capital "T" meaning it is objectively so.

Sgt Leprechaun
05-18-07, 01:42 PM
Whose reality? Mine or yours? :)

Sgt Leprechaun
05-18-07, 01:44 PM
Correct. I'm not an atheiest. However, I'm not a typical religious person, either. To each his own. None of my (or anyone else's) concern who you worship or why. Quite frankly, I don't much care who anyone worships.

I begin to care, however, when they tell me that if I don't believe what THEY do, (the cult, again) then I'm wrong, or must pay a penance. Thus, the moonbat label.

Pascal
05-18-07, 01:51 PM
I am very glad to hear that. Some people actually go around saying "there is no truth" or "you can't know anything for sure" to which one only needs to reply "is that true?" or "are you sure abot that?"

Pascal
05-18-07, 01:59 PM
test.