How many anti-war folks are here

[SgtBigK]

I know no one really wants war but, seeing as how it is going to happen do you support the troops? Do you want the USA to win? I am asking this because of my experiance on another forum. It is a Marine forum, most of you know the one, that has some very anti-war tpyes on it. A few are to the point that they won't even answer who they want to win if or, when we do engage battle. I can't hardly take it any more. I hope I can find a better situation here. If not I'll have to stop coming to Marine sites for a while. My heart can't take any more of this unbelievable
lack of respect for the USA.

:(

[Armory]

Anti-war types are normally against any war regardless of cause. Most that I've seen lack any real moral character.

Take Martin Sheen for example. Protests every war coming down the pike, but doesn't have the time to make sure his kids aren't drug addicts and knocks up his housekeeper. Or we could go on about Clinton......

[thedrifter]

Welcome Aboard to the Best Marine Site on the net. Also welcome to your home away from home................
We have a great crew of Marines in here from WW II to the present............
Throw your sea bag in a corner, pull up a footlocker, sit and chat awhile.........Get a chance stop over at the Slope Chute, Gary and I will buy you a few drinks........But watch out for Chesty.......likes his beer, only dog I found could open a beer can........LOL

Most of the Marines here support our Troops and are backing President Bush. All can express their opinions but we do not tolerate the bashing of Members. Anti-war protesters over here get a good wake-up call.................LOL

"AGAIN WELCOME ABOARD."

Sempers,

Roger

[Lock-n-Load]

:marine:After seeing the Anti-War yellow/bellies vent their salacious rethoric about how cruel the USA is to other countries...I hope Bush turns our devil/dogs of war loose any minute [24/7]...on any enemy of the USA/England...as for the TONI SHlT's of this country...ship their A$$s to any foreign country of their choice and let them see first hand what would happen to their lame A$$s about free speech...throw in Sheen, Jackson, Striestand, Sharpton,Kennedy,Kerry,Biden,Dodd, Pelosi,both Clintons, Cohen,Albright and all the other far Leftists in Congress too...how come they all haven't volunteered to be human shields for their friggin' Raghead/buddies in Baghdad on the Tigress...Bombs Away!!!!! :marine: :marine:

[wrbones]

Ayup. Good to see ya Big K!

Do a site search under Iraq, or peace protesters and you'll get an idea of what's been goin' here fer the last month or two.

We got a couple anti-war types runnin' around, but they ain't dominatin' the board.

When they start makin' sense and stop obfuscatin' the issues, when they don't down right avoid them, I might start listenin' to more of them.

Like Drifter says, we try to keep the personal attacks off the board if at all possible, so relax, grab a beer and enjoy.

Yer home, Marine.

[wrbones]

P.S.

Havin' an opinion is one thing, free speech and all that, but sedition and treason are another.

Most of the peace protesters have crossed the line into sedition and treason in my opinion.

[Barndog]

I have one opinion:

I will, having taken the oath to support and defend the Constitution of this Nation ONCE, and, knowing it has no expiration date - therefore I WILL:

Escort all those who cross the line as requested.

Semper Fidelis

Tony 'Barndog' Barnhart
USMC 1978-1983
MI ARNG 1984-1992 (and beyond)

[JAMarine]

Welcome Aboard.

Semper Fi Marine.

[Sparrowhawk]

The greatest injustice ever committed against the American Fighting men, occurred during the Vietnam War.

It was not the enemy's bullets that after all these years has left a profound image in my mind

It wasn't even the demonstrators and protestors that met me at home

It was the silence of America.

Americans the majority of which didn’t say a thing while protestors greeted us home.

Americans that remained silent, that hurt the most, because they were the majority.







"A Warrior must be Honored or His Soul will Find no Rest."
R.M. Cook Barela, August 11, 1999

[Lock-n-Load]

:marine: :marine: I came home from a combat tour in Korea at 20yrs old...I, too, came home to silence...no well done, but no vilification as you "Nam Vets had to take...it wasn't like the WW2 guys coming back...just heavy silence and .."Go get a job"!!..Aug 1952:chinese:LtG "Semper Fi"

[mistyschwartz]

My own husband is deployed right now in case of a possible war with Iraq. Even though I know that I might lose the love of my life if there is a war, I am still pro-war all of the way. Even before I met my husband I had respect for the brave and wonderful troops that represent the USA. I am proud to be an American and proud of my husband and the others that defend our country. Because of my emotional involvement, I am always watching the news and reading the newspapers and I know much about why we should go to war. I think that the anti-war protesters should pick up a newspaper and look at the facts. Saddam needs to be stopped. And more Americans need to support or troops. So yes, SgtBigK, you have come to the right place, because everyone here is awesome and full of patriotism.

[Sgt Sostand]

Yes War is bad but some one have to do it not everyone can be a Marine in most every job you run a Risk from something , if i could i would go and help my brothers over their but i am disable but i still can shoot! and i am not dead yet. i am One Proud Marine and i love my Country

[SHOOTER1]

Id go thru the same reception,I got coming back from Nam again, If they would let me go do it again, welcome to a real Marine Site.

[Lock-n-Load]

:marine: ..Friggin' "A"...SHOOTER1....Friggin' "A":marine: Fleet Marine Force......Semper Fidelis :marine:

[CplSoria]

Been a while since I've visited the site. Received this in an email and thought I'd share with my fellow Devil Dogs. It's a petition showing our support for our Commander In Chief. With all the anti-war crap you see on t.v. and print, I think it'll also show our support to our troops. Just my opinion. http://www.grassfire.net/26/petition.asp?PID=3760715

Semper Fi,
Gil

[SgtBigK]

Thank you all. I recognise many names. I came here several times to use the chat but, didn't post a lot as you can see. I have been somewhat disheartened over the past couple of months as I saw the other site devolve into "I am anti war and I don't support the President" type of stuff and seeing the regular members intimidated into submission. It just was breath taking. It is hard for me to express myself on the net, I do better in real conversation. I know what this war is about. The radical Muslims want to kill all that are not Muslims. The most violent are the Wahhabi sect. They are from Saudi Arabia and have spread all over the middle east preaching their hatred of America and Christians. I expected to see many more Marines come to my defense or, at least support me in my efforts to be pro America. I guess that site is losing their prospective. I was there for 2 years, now I won't be spending much time there anymore but, I also don't want it to look like I was run off. I'm 46 years old and I can still do a Marine Corps PFT. I run 3 miles 3X per week. I wish I could go back in and kick some arse. Again, thank you for your support of our great country and our military. You have given me hope.

[wrbones]

I read thru that stuff on that link. The only thing they say that makes any sense is to question the extent of government powers under the Patriot Act.

The rest of it borders on sedition.

The one thing that stands out is their willingness to extend the protections under the law to those who have no clain to American citizenship and have at the same time through word or deed declared themselves to be enemies of the United States and therefore at war withthe United States.

Totally different laws governance the treatment of prisoners of war than citizens of this nation.

[leroy8541]

Am I "for" war, certainly not . Anytime one of my Marines are put in harms way I get a sick feeling in my stomach! I know that they are capable of taking care of themselves, and any situation at hand. If war is what it is going to take to unseat this madman, and uproot the terror program of the world then so be it. Undoubtedly there are going to be coffins brought back draped with the American flag and I leroy am going to shed a tear for the fallen heroes. Got to go,we got a rally going for the Marine Reservists leaving this week. Semper Fi and remember to add our service men and women to your prayers when you get time.

[Barndog]

Sgt BigK - I'm 45 (46 in Nov) - I have Rheumatoid Arthritus in remission. Currently in a clinical trial study program for it. (tryin to save whats left)
Tentatively accepted for reenlistment into the Marine Reserves - however - looking back into the National Guards again (15 years invested between the Corps and Guards - wanna get the retirement).

Fully aware of my condition. My health can go south at any time. I had 2 calls from HQMC and Quantico Monday. I am Honored by that alone. It's all hoops and trim the fat off my arse from here (6'6 275)..... and I ain't worried.

Bottom line is: I've heard it so many times here, and talked to many of the Brothers here...... they don't teach you how to 'don and clear a gas mask' at college - or, tactical small unit infantry skills training. Or, for that matter....... Search and Rescue from a Huey...

I know what I'm doing when the sh!t hits the fan. And I know where my Brothers are at too.

Semper Fidelis, To the Corps

[ivalis]

I'm disturbed by what seem to be a consensus of opionon that being aniti war & support of our troops are mutually exclusive. I subscribe to the theory that best way to support the troops is to keep em from being shot at.

[lurchenstein]

This is easy for me to say because my *ss isn't directly on the line. If I had to fund this war out of my own pocket (we all do in part) & the U.S. Forces were my own children (that'd be a "Johnny Appleseed" accomplishment), still believe war is necessary to resolve the current situation with Iraq.
I support our Commander-in-Chief & our troops to resolve the Saddam Hussein & Al Queda problems in the only manner the Jihadi's really understand (Death & Destruction & to die for Allah). :marine:

[firstsgtmike]

ivalis'

Not only am I anti-war, I'm a pacifist. I hate violence.

It ****es me off when someone shoots back at me.

It means I missed him the first time, and now I have to get violent again. And I hate violence.

So you see, being anti-war and supporting those who are responsible for protecting you are NOT mutually exclusive concepts.

During the Tet offensive in Vietnam, the communists lost half of their military force. For each American and ARVN killed, the enemy lost 30. It was a military disaster for them. According to General Giap, they would have quit, and sued for peace. EXCEPT for the anti-war protestors in the US. The american anti-war protestors won the publicity war.

I blame each and every one of them for every man who died, after Tet, as a result of their "patriotic" protests.

Once their castration is complete, and they are all singing suprano, I can get back to being a pacifist. I HATE all of these interruptions.

Saddam believes that he too, can win the publicity war. Because of that, he has made war inevitable.

I HATE war. You put your life on the line when you endanger MY peace. I am a pacifist, and proud of it.

[greensideout]

firstsgtmike,

I know that you don't give a red rat's a** what I think but I will tell you this;

OOOOH-RAAAAW! That was dam* good!

Semper Fi

[NamGrunt68]

Originally posted by ivalis
I'm disturbed by what seem to be a consensus of opionon that being aniti war & support of our troops are mutually exclusive. I subscribe to the theory that best way to support the troops is to keep em from being shot at.

BULLSH!T !! Best way to support our Troops is to make sure they know how to gain "Fire Superiority" !!!

[JChristin]

The President is speaking to the nation - and the world - as I write this. I certainly wouldn't give him high marks for presentation, but he has my total support for what he see's his job is to do, that being to honor the Oath he took on the steps of the US Capital building a couple of years ago.

Is Saddam in non-compliance of UN Resoultion 1441? Certainly appears that way. The President has demonstrated great reserve by not having already attached Iraq, in my opinion. Our country, and the world, has given the dictator Saddam 12 years to disarm. He hasn't. He continues to deceive and play games with the U.N. and our country. Saddam may be destroying weapons, but he certainly may very well be producing the very same weapon that he has reportingly destroyed. Saddam is the great deceiver.

Whereas intellectual honesty eludes the dictator Saddam, at least we have one world leader willing to do that which is right, even through it isn't the most popular thing to do, and he stands tall and honest before all the world. Like to see Saddam to that.

As Marines, we each took an oath. As times goes by, I attach greater meaning to that oath I took many years ago. I love the United States of America. I honor the oath. When I listen to another Marine speak down about the President or his actions in relations to Iraq, I want so bad to let go with all forces. But I hold back. Not an easy measure for me in this instance. Because I swore to that oath, I will uphold another person's right to speak their mind - however flip floppy and anti-american spirited filled it may be. But they will understand, that from my stand-point they have defied the oath they took of their own free will.

We have already been confronted with others like Saddam. Not very long ago Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin came along to upset the apple cart of morals and intellectual honesty, and a lot of crackpots will follow the dictator Saddam. Hopefully, they will never again gain the power and influence Saddam has gathered over the years due to the actions of our President today.

semper fi
jchristin

[USMC0311]

Originally posted by ivalis
I'm disturbed by what seem to be a consensus of opinion that being aniti war & support of our troops are mutually exclusive. I subscribe to the theory that best way to support the troops is to keep em from being shot at.

I thought "firstsgtmike" said it most eloquently.

IV You one "instigating" Marine ! You "out there" man. You a clear thinker.

pogues just want to hit the rack after werk.

[mark king]

im with ya sgtbigk, im with our president 100% brother.

[SgtBigK]

Once again, thank you all for your comments. I think I'm in the right house now. Believe me I don't mind dissent, it is what America is about , free speech. I do not like being badgered over my opinion. I am a strong patriot of this country. Even with all her flaws, I cannot think of a better country or place to be. My Grandfather once tolds me, "Son, put you heart in America or, get your @ss out!" He was always that way and he was 100% Lumbee Indian (American Indian). He was in the Army in WWII .
Then he became a Minister, funny he would chew tabacco and cus a bit too.

[wrbones]

Now ya kow why I kinda like it here, BigK. Long as we don't go after personall attacks, we get some pretty good discussions goin' now and then.

IV's a **** stirrer! :D ain't nothin' flip-floppy about him. Ya spend some time visitin' with him, ya better have yer thinkin' cap on! LOL. He'll keep ya on yer toes all night! He's a good Marine...even if he is a 'lefty'! :D

How's those dogs doin' IV?

[greensideout]

You're right bones, IV will keep you explaining your position on anything! lol

I think he would be first in line to help anyone out. You might just ask though, IV is this your idea of help? lol

Bones, how about an entertainment night on the chat with you and IV going head to head on the war issue?

I'd pay-for-view to watch that!

[ivalis]

bones & I should do a 1-900 dial up, we could make a few bucks.

Is this a great country, or what!

[Barndog]

Yeah...- well I wont go into that rant. I'm principled enough to understand the difference.
Man, even tho we got a foot of snow the other day, I swear I seen a skunk today.

Spring?

I aint holdin my breath.

[SheWolf]

Originally posted by lurchenstein
This is easy for me to say because my *ss isn't directly on the line. If I had to fund this war out of my own pocket (we all do in part) & the U.S. Forces were my own children (that'd be a "Johnny Appleseed" accomplishment), still believe war is necessary to resolve the current situation with Iraq.
I support our Commander-in-Chief & our troops to resolve the Saddam Hussein & Al Queda problems in the only manner the Jihadi's really understand (Death & Destruction & to die for Allah). :marine:

I'll say this,,,,, I didn't vote for Bush,, but the one thing I will say is this,,,, I don't necessarily think we needed to push this thing so hard right now,, but we did,, so they had better let the military finish it,,, regardless,,,, my take on 'Nam was this,,, maybe we shouldn't have been there, but once the first troop hit the ground the damn politicians should have stayed out of it and let the military kick ass,,,, then worry about the right or wrong of it afterward,,,, don't let my son and his counterparts get hurt and then pull out,,, finish it, and come home.......
:rambo: :mad: