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thedrifter
05-01-07, 08:23 AM
Is War on Terror Over?
By Victor Davis Hanson
The Washington Times | May 1, 2007

Do we still need to fight a war on terror?

The answer seems to be "no" for an increasing number in the West who are weary over Afghanistan and Iraq or complacent from the absence of a major attack on the scale of September 11, 2001.

The British Foreign Office has scrapped the phrase "war on terror" as inexact, inflammatory and counterproductive. U.S. Central Command has just dropped the term "long war" to describe the fight against radical Islam.

An influential book making the rounds -- "Overblown: How Politicians and the Terrorism Industry Inflate National Security Threats, and Why We Believe Them" -- argues that the threat from al Qaeda is vastly exaggerated. Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter's national security adviser, goes further, assuring us we are terrorized mostly by the false idea of a war on terror -- not the jihadists themselves.

Even onetime neo-conservative Francis Fukuyama, who in 1998 called for the pre-emptive removal of Saddam Hussein, believes "war" is the "wrong metaphor" for our struggle against the terrorists.

Others point out that motley Islamic terrorists lack the resources of the Nazi Wehrmacht or the Soviet Union.

This thinking may seem understandable given the ineffectiveness of al Qaeda to kill many Americans after 2001. Or it may reflect hopes that, if we only leave Iraq, radical Islam will wither away. But it is dead wrong for a number of reasons:

(1) Islamic terrorists plotting attacks are arrested periodically in both Europe and the United States. Just last week a leaked British report detailed al Qaeda's plans for future "large-scale" operations. We shouldn't be blamed for being alarmist when our alarmism has resulted in our safety at home for the last five years.

(2) Have we forgotten that Nazi Germany was never able to kill 3,000 Americans on our homeland? Did Japan ever destroy 16 acres in Manhattan or hit the nerve center of the U.S. military? Even the Soviet Union couldn't inflict billions of dollars in damage to the U.S. economy in a single day.

(3) In some ways stateless terrorists can be more dangerous than past conventional threats. Autocrats in some Middle East countries allow indirect financial and psychological support for al Qaeda terrorists without leaving footprints of their intent. They must assume a single terrorist strike could kill thousands of Americans without our ability to strike back at their capitals. This inability to tie a state to its support for terrorism is our greatest obstacle in this war -- and our enemies' greatest advantage.

(4) Jihadists have already scored successes in all sorts of ways beyond altering the very nature of air travel. Cartoonists now lampoon everyone and everything -- except Muslims. The pope must weigh his words carefully. Otherwise, priests and nuns are attacked abroad. A single false Newsweek story about one flushed Koran led to riot and death. The net result is that terrified millions in Western societies silently accept that for the first time in centuries they cannot talk or write honestly about what they think of Islam and the Koran.

(5) Everything from our 401(k) plans to municipal water plants depend on sophisticated computers and communications. And you don't need a missile to take them down. Two oceans no longer protect the United States -- not when the Internet knows no boundaries, our borders are relatively wide open, and dozens of ships dock and hundreds of flights arrive daily.

A germ, some spent nuclear fuel or a vial of nerve gas could cause as much mayhem and calamity as an armored division in Adolf Hitler's army. The Soviets were considered rational enemies who accepted the bleak laws of nuclear deterrence. But jihadists claim they welcome death if their martyrdom kills thousands of Americans.

Finally, radical Islamists largely arise from the oil-rich Middle East. Since September 11, 2001, the price of oil has skyrocketed, transferring trillions of dollars from successful Western, Indian and Chinese economies to unsuccessful Arab and Iranian autocracies.

Terrorists know that blowing up a Saudi oil field or getting control of Iraqi petroleum reserves -- and they attempt both all the time -- will alter the world economy. Even their mere threats give us psychological fits and their sponsors more cash.

This is a strange war. Our successes in avoiding attack convince some that the real danger has passed. And when we kill jihadists abroad, we are told it is peripheral to the war or only incites more terrorism.

But despite the current efforts at denial, the war against Islamic terrorism remains real and deadly. We can't wish it away until Middle Eastern dictatorships reform -- or we end their oil stranglehold over the world economy.

Ellie

chrisathey1989
05-01-07, 08:29 AM
The war in Iraq and Afghanistan are OVER. They have been over. A war is one country's government fighting another country's government. We are merely reconstructing these two countries. Also, yes it is very imperitive that we continue to fight a war on terrorism, we have been for a while, and we always will. No, we might not win, but we can at least try and prevent 9/11 from occuring again.

drumcorpssnare
05-01-07, 08:41 AM
Last night on ABC's World News, it was reported that terrorist attacks are on the rise worldwide, except for Indonesia....the country with the largest Islamic population.
Casualties of women and children are up. Attacks are up. Attempted attacks are up. Foiled attempts are up.
These folks are not in a big hurry to "kiss and make up."
And...their type of fighting is exactly suited to be more effective when their enemy becomes complacent. Our own false sense of security will come back to bite us in the ass, the next time they strike in America. AND THEY WILL.......

drumcorpssnare:usmc:

Bouldin
05-01-07, 08:54 AM
i dont believe the war is over if we pull out it could increase the attacks on the home front.

OLE SARG
05-01-07, 09:03 AM
Oh wait, the demos want to sit down and talk to the sheetheads. Keep the Lines of Communication open, YEH RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
When one of these ****head politicians wakes up some morning and ahab and his camel are in his backyard maybe, just maybe, something will get done. I LOVE THE WAY CONGRESS HAS JUMPED ON THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE!!!!!!! DAMN, it's time for another one of their ****ing recesses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SEMPER FI,

jetdawgg
05-01-07, 09:27 AM
The war in Iraq is a major reason why the attacks are up globally. The ISG report stated that the war has made many more terrorists as the sympathizers move to implementers of the program.

That is why diplomacy is required. You can't blow up the whole world. There are 1.25 BB people that are Islamic. That is 25% of the Earth's population. The republican agenda of 'just kill'em' has failed miserably.

JinxJr
05-01-07, 10:43 AM
"That is why diplomacy is required."
And with whom, exactly, do you engage diplomatically? What country claims to house and/or have any control over the activities of terrorists? Who is their Ambassador? We aren't referring to free trade or immigration here we're talking about terrorists; people who would be bent on destroying the possibility of establishing a democracy that protects the rights of it's own people. Whether we (the US) was involved in this ordeal in Iraq or not, the rise in terrorist attacks was just a matter of time anyway. It's been building since before the bugs were worked out of the Gregorian Calendar. Technology has just become a huge enabler.

"...first engage in a preliminary dialogue with those wonderful people in vests. The vests packed with explosives. Those folks love to chat, after all -- and they never forget a word in those lovely videos they make."

You're right jetdawgg...diplomacy is required but there just doesn't seem to be anybody willing to accept responsibility to do that with us.

jetdawgg
05-02-07, 09:49 AM
If you listen to the MSM you may have that point of view regarding 'no one to talk with from their side'

I tend to believe otherwise. I don't know of anyone who wants to live in a nation where bombs and guns are the norm. How can you possibly go to the supermarket?

Just not credible to me.